Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #1 on Mar 4, 2012, 9:47pm »
All things considered... I'm thinking this is sounding really nice. Obviously Ian has vocal limitations... but lets just say that after hearing that I remain optomistic about the album as a whole and excited to hear how it all works in context.
All things considered... I'm thinking this is sounding really nice. Obviously Ian has vocal limitations... but lets just say that after hearing that I remain optomistic about the album as a whole and excited to hear how it all works in context.
Agreed.
I'm thinking (or hoping) that these teasers are just that - and there will be plenty of meat and potatoes (or prawn vindaloo) for us to dig into.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #4 on Mar 4, 2012, 10:04pm »
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album. Say what you will about Ian writing all the material and directing Tull through every album; nevertheless, there was a band dynamic still present, particularly in Tull's earlier albums (Thick as a Brick being a prime example) that could be heard distinctly: the warm fuzzy tones of Martin Barre, the dervish drums of Barriemore Barlow and the classical nuance of John Evan's keyboards. I do not hear that here. Do you?
Any of the samples could have been culled from leftover tracks of The Secret Language of Birds or Rupi's Dance sessions. Not wishing to cast aspersions too quickly, but I am wondering if you are noticing a decidedly un-Tullish tone here? Or am I being unduly pessimistic?
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #5 on Mar 4, 2012, 10:14pm »
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album. Say what you will about Ian writing all the material and directing Tull through every album; nevertheless, there was a band dynamic still present, particularly in Tull's earlier albums (Thick as a Brick being a prime example) that could be heard distinctly: the warm fuzzy tones of Martin Barre, the dervish drums of Barriemore Barlow and the classical nuance of John Evan's keyboards. I do not hear that here. Do you?
Any of the samples could have been culled from leftover tracks of The Secret Language of Birds or Rupi's Dance sessions. Not wishing to cast aspersions too quickly, but I am wondering if you are noticing a decidedly un-Tullish tone here? Or am I being unduly pessimistic?
While I feel that's it's unfair to have any expectations that this will somehow stand up in comparison to classic era Tull, I tend to agree with your overall premise. It is very Ian solo album-ish (yeah, I know technically it is) in that it's lacking in - how do I put it delicately - balls. Here's hoping for the meat and potatoes....
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album.
I hate to state the obvious... but, technically, this is an Ian Anderson solo project.
I'd prefer to let this work rise or fall on its own merits and am trying to keep preconceptions as to how I think it should sound to a minimum. I want to hear how Ian thinks TAAB2 should sound...
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album. Say what you will about Ian writing all the material and directing Tull through every album; nevertheless, there was a band dynamic still present, particularly in Tull's earlier albums (Thick as a Brick being a prime example) that could be heard distinctly: the warm fuzzy tones of Martin Barre, the dervish drums of Barriemore Barlow and the classical nuance of John Evan's keyboards. I do not hear that here. Do you?
Any of the samples could have been culled from leftover tracks of The Secret Language of Birds or Rupi's Dance sessions. Not wishing to cast aspersions too quickly, but I am wondering if you are noticing a decidedly un-Tullish tone here? Or am I being unduly pessimistic?
Interesting points.
Some observations:
I think it's fair to say that other than Mark Craney (RIP), no drummer has really offered that dervish style to IA's music.
I also get the feeling that Florian may play a fairly prominent role in this record, although I don't see him "answering" Ian's vocal lines in any way even close to Martin.
Lastly, I don't recall the squeezy thing from bloody hell being a prominent instrument on TAAB...
But with these samples I can understand feelings from both sides. We'll just have to wait and see.
In looking back, has there ever been a Tull album that you simply connected with upon the very first listen?
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album.
I hate to state the obvious... but, technically, this is an Ian Anderson solo project.
I'd prefer to let this work rise or fall on its own merits and am trying to keep preconceptions as to how I think it should sound to a minimum. I want to hear how Ian thinks TAAB2 should sound...
I hate to reply to the obvious...but if an artist decides to afix a '2' to an album (or Two, Too, II, Deux, etc.), they are indicating continuity, both musically and conceptually, to the original - in this case, a Jethro Tull album. With that ponderous weight is added the incumbent expectations that the second album lives up to the content of the first.
It is very dangerous ground Ian is treading, in that one cannot help but have at least a nominal bit of preconceived notions regarding what the album should sound like. If it were just another Ian Anderson solo project, then there is no worry, and no heightened expectations. It is a cross that the album must bear.
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #9 on Mar 4, 2012, 10:36pm »
In looking back, has there ever been a Tull album that you simply connected with upon the very first listen?
I would say both Minstrel in the Gallery and Songs from the Wood. I didn't get that feeling from Warchild, Too Old to Rock and Roll or Heavy Horses (individual songs but not the albums in their entirety).
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album. Say what you will about Ian writing all the material and directing Tull through every album; nevertheless, there was a band dynamic still present, particularly in Tull's earlier albums (Thick as a Brick being a prime example) that could be heard distinctly: the warm fuzzy tones of Martin Barre, the dervish drums of Barriemore Barlow and the classical nuance of John Evan's keyboards. I do not hear that here. Do you?
Any of the samples could have been culled from leftover tracks of The Secret Language of Birds or Rupi's Dance sessions. Not wishing to cast aspersions too quickly, but I am wondering if you are noticing a decidedly un-Tullish tone here? Or am I being unduly pessimistic?
While I feel that's it's unfair to have any expectations that this will somehow stand up in comparison to classic era Tull, I tend to agree with your overall premise. It is very Ian solo album-ish (yeah, I know technically it is) in that it's lacking in - how do I put it delicately - balls. Here's hoping for the meat and potatoes....
Although it's hard to judge by such brief samples, I'm not liking any of what I've heard so far very much, whether on the promotional video or these clips. It sounds more like a continuation of Rupi's Dance, than of Brick. It's Rupi 2, not Brick 2. I really don't like the spoken voice clip at all either.
Without Martin as part of the project, it was bound to be this way. It just lacks the Tull-ish "oomph" that a Brick sequel deserves, or as you put it, it lacks balls. If this is the way it's going to be, than the fans who protested that a Brick sequel should not have been attempted without Martin will be vindicated.
In looking back, has there ever been a Tull album that you simply connected with upon the very first listen?
I would say both Minstrel in the Gallery and Songs from the Wood. I didn't get that feeling from Warchild, Too Old to Rock and Roll or Heavy Horses (individual songs but not the albums in their entirety).
SFTW is probably the only one for me, with maybe HH a close second.
But IA is an 'acquired taste' so it will be interesting to see what we think after a couple of listens....
While I feel that's it's unfair to have any expectations that this will somehow stand up in comparison to classic era Tull, I tend to agree with your overall premise. It is very Ian solo album-ish (yeah, I know technically it is) in that it's lacking in - how do I put it delicately - balls. Here's hoping for the meat and potatoes....
Although it's hard to judge by such brief samples, I'm not liking any of what I've heard so far very much, whether on the promotional video or these clips. It sounds more like a continuation of Rupi's Dance, than of Brick. It's Rupi 2, not Brick 2. I really don't like the spoken voice clip at all either.
Without Martin as part of the project, it was bound to be this way. It just lacks the Tull-ish "oomph" that a Brick sequel deserves, or as you put it, it lacks balls. If this is the way it's going to be, than the fans who protested that a Brick sequel should not have been attempted without Martin will be vindicated.
Jeff
I'm not disagreeing with you Jeff, but after all these years, this is what finally inspired Ian to write new music. So I'm going to take a wait and see approach.
But I am wondering whether or not we will see Ian (along with Deepak Choprah) on PBS anytime soon.
Although it's hard to judge by such brief samples, I'm not liking any of what I've heard so far very much, whether on the promotional video or these clips. It sounds more like a continuation of Rupi's Dance, than of Brick. It's Rupi 2, not Brick 2. I really don't like the spoken voice clip at all either.
Without Martin as part of the project, it was bound to be this way. It just lacks the Tull-ish "oomph" that a Brick sequel deserves, or as you put it, it lacks balls. If this is the way it's going to be, than the fans who protested that a Brick sequel should not have been attempted without Martin will be vindicated.
Jeff
I'm not disagreeing with you Jeff, but after all these years, this is what finally inspired Ian to write new music. So I'm going to take a wait and see approach.
But I am wondering whether or not we will see Ian (along with Deepak Choprah) on PBS anytime soon.
Of course, we must wait to hear the entire thing before we can judge it. These clips are so brief, so it's impossible to form any complete opinions.
The concept is brilliant, I love that, so I have a feeling that I'm going to like the lyrical ideas a lot, and find them applicable to my own life, like I do with a lot of Ian's words. I just hope that it rocks a lot more than what I've heard so far.
Hmmm...my main concern is that this sounds like an Ian Anderson solo project, and not a Jethro Tull album. Say what you will about Ian writing all the material and directing Tull through every album; nevertheless, there was a band dynamic still present, particularly in Tull's earlier albums (Thick as a Brick being a prime example) that could be heard distinctly: the warm fuzzy tones of Martin Barre, the dervish drums of Barriemore Barlow and the classical nuance of John Evan's keyboards. I do not hear that here. Do you?
Any of the samples could have been culled from leftover tracks of The Secret Language of Birds or Rupi's Dance sessions. Not wishing to cast aspersions too quickly, but I am wondering if you are noticing a decidedly un-Tullish tone here? Or am I being unduly pessimistic?
I agree 100%, these samples sound a lot like Rupi's Dance material. But I'm sure at least that the lyrics will be a lot better than Rupi.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #15 on Mar 4, 2012, 11:49pm »
Wow, this is great. I actually went to the website today specifically to look for this.
The samples sound better than I expected it to sound. Especially the first two samples. I think so far this sounds better than Rupi's dance, but it certainly sounds a lot like it. When you compare these samples to the original TaaB the change in his songwriting style is pretty dramatic.
Anyway, I like it, and I'm very thankful that there is a new Ian Anderson release. Can't wait to hear the whole album.
In terms of the meat and potatoes thing, I don't think we can really expect much of that from Ian nowadays. His testosterone levels are on the downgrade.
Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #16 on Mar 5, 2012, 1:42am »
Upper 6th Loan Shark sample sounds like "Set Aside" to me at first blush. And I agree with TM that with all the emphasis by Ian that the original instrumentation was maintained for this one....(i.e. Les Paul/Hammond organ)....what's up with the squeezy thing?
Good Day....I agree that the few songs I heard from this album sounds somewhat like Rupi's Dance, but I really like the instrumental piece and if there are more like that, the I will buy this album....but I must agree with SealDriver, Tull as we knew them, is no longer....
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