The album is not going to tickle us as much as the original Thick as a Brick did, so we really can't have too much of the expectation that might come with the title.
This won't be the same as losing your virginity or catching your first buzz in 1972. This will be like finding new ways to party with an old friend. "Owl loved to rest quietly whilst no one was watching." The spoken word.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #41 on Mar 5, 2012, 12:11pm »
Although I would always tend to avoid any judgement before I hear the complete work, I have kinda weird (yet somehow familiar) feeling, this might turn out far less enjoyable than Birds or Rupi. (also heard samples on Planet Rock and trailer). Agree with LJG about vocals, which would (in Ian's case) certainly need some more studio wizardry support. And yes, everything sounds more like a really good "live" recording (and yet quite sterile) rather than proper studio effort. But what could we expect after only ten days of recording?? I don't think nowadays you can make something exceptional in terms of studio work within only ten days. And furthermore, who needs a "live" sounding record after so many years of waiting?! The Beacons Bottom Tapes 2 on the horizon??
But..hey, oldghost...hold your horses...it's not over yet! 54 minutes (at least) of listening still awaiting!
Ok, ok..I will shut up now. I just wish TAAB2 in it's entirety and you dear forum colleagues will prove me wrong.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #46 on Mar 5, 2012, 2:05pm »
Does anybody agree, when Ian uses glockenspiel, he always puts it too much to the fore in the mix? And it seems the story continues on TAAB2, although I know many would point a finger at Steven Wilson now...but anyway?
The ratio of Hammond organ to "squeezy thing" better be HUGE.
I suggest we term it the 'Evans-Giddings Quotient'
You know when John played it, it never bothered me.
Same thing goes for Mark Knopfler solo work with it. It doesn't bother me how it's used on his records either.
Maybe it's simply mixed to high. Whatever the case is, I was very disappointed to hear it on A Change of Horses. The viola was so perfect for that song...
Does anybody agree, when Ian uses glockenspiel, he always puts it to much to the fore in the mix? And it seems the story continues on TAAB2, although I know many would point a finger at Steven Willson now...but anyway?
I am not a huge fan of Ian's mixing skills. His percussion is always mixed too high IMO. I was really looking forward to hearing Steve turn down the flute and the keyboards on this record as well.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #50 on Mar 5, 2012, 2:38pm »
I hear Divinities riffs, and SLOB..('set aside' for sure) I am excited there is new music to hear but..the samples just strengthen my belief that TAAB2 is the last thing this should be called..Even just "whatever happened to Gerald Bostick" would have been more appropriate. I think out of everything I have heard the "squeezy thing" is the biggest disappointment. Along with the "Thick as a Brick" repeated line in what could be a pretty decent instrumental. Replace the squeezy thing with the Hammond! These clips kinda put it all into perspective. I guess there isn't enough time but if I were SW I would run into the control room and edit that stuff outta there so fast. Sorry for those who don't agree. The instrumentation is being touted as similar to the original brick yet there's that damn squeezy thing again. It doesn't go away? That thing should be destroyed in my opinion.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #51 on Mar 5, 2012, 2:42pm »
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I am not a huge fan of Ian's mixing skills. His percussion is always mixed too high IMO. I was really looking forward to hearing Steve turn down the flute and the keyboards on this record as well.
I completely agree. I'm just wondering now if Steve really had such of an input as it is advertised. And btw, I also agree about accordion being too high in the mix and not to mention that viola on Change of Horses would have been so much better option. Really a pity for missed oportunity.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #52 on Mar 5, 2012, 2:46pm »
I really like the accordion in their music. I never really liked the instrument by himself but when bands like Jethro Tull and Steeleye Span use it, I enjoy it.
It seems like there is a lot of negativity--glass half empty type thinking around here. As I was saying earlier we all know that we can't expect a lot. We know what Ian's solo records sound like, and that's what we should expect. Let's not let ourselves down by getting hyped up by the title.
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Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #53 on Mar 5, 2012, 2:57pm »
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The instrumentation is being touted as similar to the original brick yet there's that damn squeezy thing again. It doesn't go away? That thing should be destroyed in my opinion.
I'm not sure if it should be removed completely, because it may work really nicely in some places, but it's just the question "where" and particulary "how" to use it. I think in this case it should be used in much more discrete and underneath manner and in the right place ofcourse.
I really like the accordion in their music. I never really liked the instrument by himself but when bands like Jethro Tull and Steeleye Span use it, I enjoy it.
It seems like there is a lot of negativity--glass half empty type thinking around here. As I was saying earlier we all know that we can't expect a lot. We know what Ian's solo records sound like, and that's what we should expect. Let's not let ourselves down by getting hyped up by the title.
But that is it in a nutshell.
The album title is begging for attention. I seriously hope the content has the goods to warrant the label.
Re: TAAB2 Samples! « Reply #55 on Mar 5, 2012, 7:50pm »
well, can't say I'm impressed. As almost everyone said, it sounds like Ian solo stuf i.e. same way of singing, same production (cosy, warmy sound, ideal to put the kids to sleep knowing there's no chance it will wake them up again), same instruments, same musical style (can Ian still write something different? He used to surprise me from album to album. not anymore), and certainly no feeling that it has anything to do with the original Thick As A Brick. But still, there are small sections in these snipets that make me hope for something I might want to listen to. Just hoping Gerald Bostock didn't get too old...
It seems like there is a lot of negativity--glass half empty type thinking around here. As I was saying earlier we all know that we can't expect a lot. We know what Ian's solo records sound like, and that's what we should expect. Let's not let ourselves down by getting hyped up by the title.
But that is it in a nutshell.
The album title is begging for attention. I seriously hope the content has the goods to warrant the label.
Ian himself is building up the expectation, that was my point earlier. To be honest, if this were merely another "Ian Anderson solo project", I would not get too worked up. "Divinities", "Secret Language of Birds", "Rupi's Dance", etc., all have their high points and low points, but I didn't find myself running out to buy them the minute they were released. I would usually pick up the CD just prior to the tour to acquaint myself to the songs before I waddled off downtown to see the concert.
But Ian is getting far more media attention for TAAB2 than I can recall for any release in the past ten years. Hell, 20 years! Usually, his releases are routinely ignored by the press. Now I am getting the feeling I am being manipulated, and I do not like to feel that way. Not one bit.
Perhaps I am being cynical. Perhaps my curmudgeonliness is cresting. But Joni Mitchell once made a very wise assessment of repetitiveness in the musical process when she said:
"Nobody ever said to Van Gogh, 'Paint a Starry Night again, man!' You know? He painted it and that was it."
Now we have TAAB2. I would be just as leary if David Gilmour or Roger Waters made "Dark Side of the Moon, Part II: It's Still All Dark", or Jimmy Page released "ZoSo, Even More So".
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
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