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« Reply #340 on Apr 12, 2012, 12:25pm »
Calling Elvis... or Ian Anderson



I sense the power. And I sense the spirit move
in stately corridors of oak and stone, vaulted above.
Beyond the nave, beside dark transepts, candles flicker in the quire.
First the glow deep in the belly, tight grip of faith to fan the fire. - Ian Anderson 2012




Interesting that Ian Anderson now refers to the TAAB show script as the bible.

http://www.world-enlightenment.com/
Jethro Tull, Thick As A Brick Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick"
1q. Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
1a. I really don't mind if you sit on your asses complacent as ever, as I have had it with you. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick


http://www.world-enlightenment.com/Jethro-Tull-Thick-As-A-Brick-home.htm

Divinely inspired works are handed to the authors, piece by piece, along with a personal understanding of what it means to them. This can be similar to or completely different from the higher meaning intended by the one who inspired it. What the inspired artist thinks about their work depends on what they can understand and what they would believe.

Thick As A Brick - Album Cover - The album cover.
Thick As A Brick - Printable & Readable St. Cleve Chronicle

Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" record was released in 1972. It consisted of one 43 minute long song split into two tracks. There are links above to an index of the original album cover and 12 page newspaper insert "St. Cleave Chronicle". Click on any of the chronicle pages then click anywhere within the page for a readable popup. The following is printed on the front cover: "THICK AS A BRICK"

Ian Anderson as oracle and prophet? Is it possible? Yes, it is; once you understand who's narrating Thick as a Brick its meaning can be understood. The following is an interpretation of the first section of Thick as a Brick from the perspective of the Universal Mind (Holy Spirit) i.e. God.

The actual lyrics are plain type. The parts in bold are from the Universal Mind. There's also some extra information in blue. They are examples of the literal interpretation process.

This opens a flash music player with the same content.

LATE EXTRA

to man:
1q. Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
1a. I really don't mind if you sit on your asses complacent as ever, as I have had it with you.
>
1q. My words but a whisper--your deafness a SHOUT
1ex. You don't pay attention to my Word (Reality).
1a. You turn away from the Truth, are unrealistic, and do not learn from your mistakes.
>
1q. I may make you feel but I can't make you think
1a. I make you feel good in church but you don't listen to me.
>
1q. Your sperm's in the gutter your--love's in the sink
1a. You have become loveless perverts.
>
1q. So you ride yourselves over the fields and/
1a. You drive around in cars, destroying the environment in every possible way;
>
1q. you make all your animal deals
1ex. animal (man); animal deals (making money)
1a. All for making money.
>
1q. and/ your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick
1ex. Mankind ignores the warnings of scientists, physicists etc; (toxic effects on ecology), ecologists and environmentalists (ozone layer depletion), (greenhouse effects), astronomers, geologists (large body impacts) etc.
1a. Mankind should have listened to their wise men and followed their advice.
>
1q. And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away in/the tidal destruction/the moral melee.
1a. The coastal areas around the world will be wiped out by large body impact in the ocean.
2a. The seats of industry, government, and the media will be wiped out.
2b. There will be a depletion of the ozone layer and greenhouse effects.
3a. There will be anarchy and martial law and the survival of the fittest.
3b. All of this could have been avoided, if you had only known who and what I am.
>
1q. The elastic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers the new fangled way.
1a. When the oceans recede after the tidal wave, everything will be changed.
>
1q. And your new shoes are worn at the heals and/your suntan does rapidly peal and/
1a. Durable goods and necessities will be scarce, and the ultraviolet radiation will burn your skin instead of giving you a suntan.
>
1q. your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
1a. You should have listened to your wise men. The ones whose only agenda is helping people and learning the truth about what is really going on. They are there for you but your power elite, industrialists, and money power have fooled you by using the psychology of persuasion through the media. They skim all the excess resources and pocket it, while the masses suffer and die, the environment is destroyed, and you are left alone and defenseless. They have pocketed the resources in the form of currency that would make the Earth a paradise. They stole paradise from you, and then you died.
>
1q. And the love that I feel is so far away: I'm a bad dream that I just had today - and you shake your head and say it's a shame.



Marcus E. Lee /the moral melee
The Living God

Thick as a Brick (Marcus Christos)
Bold As Love (Hail to Marcus)

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« Reply #341 on Apr 12, 2012, 2:19pm »
My second full listen was today. What a difference! In my mind I just pictured the classic Dickensian image of Ian, complete with teased lion's mane and plaid greatcoat. I'm very visually oriented and this mental trick did it for me. Yes, we are indeed back in that world. So on this listen it even brought a tear to my eye, though now I can't remember what section triggered that.

Stand out moments for me this time:

Ian doing an American accent at the end of "Give Till It Hurts." Hilarious. And just plain weird.

Vague melodic similarity between What Ifs, Maybes, Might-have-beens and Heavy Horses -- in a good way. Of course, it's written by the same guy I think.

I am hearing more and more subtle references to the original, just little motivic things, not exactly quotes. It will take more close listens I think.

I think Ophale IS Martin Barre arriving by time machine from 1974 or so.

I have not detected much in the way of the thematic continuity the first TAAB (e.g. the opening acoustic guitar arpeggio being used in otherwise completely differently themed sections), but I didn't pick up on that all at once in the first one either. So maybe that will come on subsequent listens if it is present.

The sad thing is, when I was a teen, there wasn't much else to do but listen to an album with 200% of my attention. It was sublime. Now? Telephone wakes me in the morning. Got to get up answer the call. It's always somebody needing something trivial and mundane and my mind is on work and worry.

So even if Ian resurrected A Passion Play and made it somehow better than the original, I wouldn't react to it the same way.

(Please don't try that though. Okay, Ian? Let's leave APP sacrosanct.)
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« Reply #342 on Apr 12, 2012, 2:52pm »
[quote author=tootull board=general thread=2569 post=23254 time=1334251547]Calling Elvis... or Ian Anderson

You know of course that Ians knickname among his close friends and band members in the 60's was......ELVOE (a reference to Elvis)
and referenced in the APP booklet under Mark Ridley's Bio. Playing "Elvoe in The Demo......"

As far as the re-interpetation of TAAB....I always liked how Ian's lyrics left so much room for anyone to interpret them in their own way.
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« Reply #343 on Apr 12, 2012, 3:31pm »

Apr 12, 2012, 2:52pm, Darin Cody wrote:
[quote author=tootull board=general thread=2569 post=23254 time=1334251547]Calling Elvis... or Ian Anderson

You know of course that Ians knickname among his close friends and band members in the 60's was......ELVOE (a reference to Elvis)
and referenced in the APP booklet under Mark Ridley's Bio. Playing "Elvoe in The Demo......"

As far as the re-interpetation of TAAB....I always liked how Ian's lyrics left so much room for anyone to interpret them in their own way.
Darin

Of course, +I also included a Dire Straits reference... ;D A fave! Elvis the gospel albums is also hinted at...but I don't need to explain every hint that I make, do I...lol God bless!

OF COURSE
So you ride yourselves over the fields
and you make all your animal deals
and your wise men don't know how it feels
to be thick as a brick.
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« Reply #344 on Apr 12, 2012, 4:28pm »
First, some general comments on TAAB2:

As with any album, by anybody, it takes a few listens to really get grabbed (become familiar) with the songs. My learning curve on TAAB2 is in steep ascent. At least five songs are standing out as down right spectacular: Kismet in Suburbia, Banker Bets - Banker Wins, Adrift and Dumfounded, Old School Song, Wootten Bassett Town.

The lyrical theme of the piece is also very thought provoking, not so much for me relating to Gerald's five life choices, but more as a device to argue concepts about the economy/Wall Street mentality (Gerald's banker incantation); the naivete of the soldier before going to war, and then reality hits once there; life in the middle class without greater aspirations, the affect of molestation and its later effects upon one's life (Gerald ends up homeless at one point). Can't wait to see this all staged!

One minor complaint - and this is more of an I-Tunes deal - I have both the Deluxe CD/DVD and also the I -Tunes album download to play in docking devices. I-Tunes chose to lump four groups of songs together, thus creating only 13 songs. Nothing is missing, just 4 medleys, 2 songs each. However, by doing so, you can't play Banker Bets (for example) without listening to Upper Sixth Street Loan Shark first. Kind of a wierd deal, that. I guess they felt that some songs were so short, it wouldn't warrant the $1.29 load down price. Thanks, but no thanks. Also, Ian's narration will probably be good for the stage presentation, I can see that growing quite stale after playing it several times. I am skipping it already, but then again I am on the tenth plus play through.

Overall, Great Piece!
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« Reply #345 on Apr 12, 2012, 5:07pm »

Apr 12, 2012, 10:54am, Sparty wrote:
Just caught this on a surf of the Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDjIhllC5ZU.


Nice, well found!

Seems to have gone un-noticed, but interesting to see how far and wide this has spread since you posted it here. Synchronicity at work? I doubt it.

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« Reply #346 on Apr 13, 2012, 1:09am »
Ian has a script of the stage show which they call "The Bible" and it's growing daily. Remember how we used to wonder what the stage show would look like for the upcoming tours. Interviewers would ask, but Ian never wanted to give details. It's been a long time since we were able to expect an actual stage show.
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Re: TAAB2
« Reply #347 on Apr 13, 2012, 6:43am »

Apr 13, 2012, 1:09am, Tulltapes wrote:
Ian has a script of the stage show which they call "The Bible" and it's growing daily. Remember how we used to wonder what the stage show would look like for the upcoming tours. Interviewers would ask, but Ian never wanted to give details. It's been a long time since we were able to expect an actual stage show.


icylucifer is worried. Self parody and over-egging the pudding spring to his mind. Anyway icyL will find out in TWO days. Still looking forward to it though.

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« Reply #348 on Apr 13, 2012, 3:09pm »

Apr 12, 2012, 10:54am, Sparty wrote:
Just caught this on a surf of the Tube:
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Thanks Sparty! This is wonderful. :P
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« Reply #349 on Apr 13, 2012, 6:33pm »
On the eve of the TaaB2 tour kicking off, my mate Steve's ticket from TaaB1 when it was simply TaaB!

This, others and my tickets to be added to The Manual soon.

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« Reply #350 on Apr 14, 2012, 12:09am »
My first listen through TAAB2 left me wondering what this compilation represented, perhaps another Nightcap with new players. It seemed to lack musical theme like TAAB1. I thought the Divergence section lived up to its name with many unrelated pieces of differing musical texture that seemed experimental and musically immature for Ian's standards. I'm currently listening to A Change of Horses. This piece, for me, is one of Ian's most compelling compositions, and alone makes TAAB2 a must have album. In time I'll explore the remaining tracks, and expect to begin to enjoy more of the compositions when I do. I'm clearly aware that this is not Martin's guitar work, and find that I focus on his not being there, rather than listen to what is there.
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« Reply #351 on Apr 14, 2012, 6:01am »
Saturday, April 14, 2012
Chart Watch America: Richie Takes Top Veteran Spot, Dr. John Scores Best in 39 Years, Ian Anderson in 25
http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2012/04/....-takes-top.html
Also opening big is Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson whose TAAB2: Thick as a Brick 2 premiers at 55. Neither Tull or Anderson as a solo act has been that high on the album charts in 25 years, since Crest of a Knave hit 32 in 1987.
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« Reply #352 on Apr 14, 2012, 6:36am »
I am really pleased that TAAB 2 appears to be selling as I read that one of Ians criteria for success for TAAB was that he hoped to not lose money by releasing it as he stated recording an album was very costly. The encouraging sales might make his other planned projects become a reality
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« Reply #353 on Apr 14, 2012, 7:19am »
Argh! I'll never bloody get TAAB2 I ordered it off "CDWOW" and 2 days agos
they sent me an email saying, "Sorry there's a delay. It'll be with you in 6-10 days."
And then yesterday another email, "Sorry we couldn't get stock of the item. Your order has been cancelled." So, I decided to do it the 'ol fashioned way and rang up my local record stores (by local I mean like 40 minutes away. Living in the country has its disadvantages) to see if they had it and none of them did. I should have gone with good 'ol reliable Amazon. Silly me...
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« Reply #354 on Apr 14, 2012, 7:29am »

Apr 14, 2012, 7:19am, Jethro Tull FTW wrote:
Argh! I'll never bloody get TAAB2 I ordered it off "CDWOW" and 2 days agos
they sent me an email saying, "Sorry there's a delay. It'll be with you in 6-10 days."
And then yesterday another email, "Sorry we couldn't get stock of the item. Your order has been cancelled." So, I decided to do it the 'ol fashioned way and rang up my local record stores (by local I mean like 40 minutes away. Living in the country has its disadvantages) to see if they had it and none of them did. I should have gone with good 'ol reliable Amazon. Silly me...

Once you get a copy you won't be able to sleep at night without the beautiful melodies swirling in your mind.
I still hear it even when I'm doing other things. ::) ;D ::)
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« Reply #355 on Apr 14, 2012, 10:27am »

Apr 14, 2012, 6:36am, Preston Platform wrote:
I am really pleased that TAAB 2 appears to be selling as I read that one of Ians criteria for success for TAAB was that he hoped to not lose money by releasing it as he stated recording an album was very costly. The encouraging sales might make his other planned projects become a reality



After TAAB2, I think his other projects, may come to life as well. Let's hope so. :'(




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« Reply #356 on Apr 14, 2012, 11:06am »
If Ian really wanted to cash in... he would have timed a vinyl release to coincide with Record Day here in North America...
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« Reply #357 on Apr 14, 2012, 2:04pm »

Apr 14, 2012, 11:06am, LJG wrote:
If Ian really wanted to cash in... he would have timed a vinyl release to coincide with Record Day here in North America...

Is Record Day April 21st ?
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« Reply #358 on Apr 14, 2012, 2:49pm »

Apr 14, 2012, 7:19am, Jethro Tull FTW wrote:
Argh! I'll never bloody get TAAB2 I ordered it off "CDWOW" and 2 days agos
they sent me an email saying, "Sorry there's a delay. It'll be with you in 6-10 days."
And then yesterday another email, "Sorry we couldn't get stock of the item. Your order has been cancelled." So, I decided to do it the 'ol fashioned way and rang up my local record stores (by local I mean like 40 minutes away. Living in the country has its disadvantages) to see if they had it and none of them did. I should have gone with good 'ol reliable Amazon. Silly me...


Amazon was the way to go for me. I pre-ordered and got it the day it was released without any same day shipping or anything. I ordered 2 more of the single discs the other day and they also arrived in 24 hours without the extra shipping cost.
The local Barnes & Noble which I pre-ordered from still hasn't gotten any info and I cancelled their order.

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« Reply #359 on Apr 14, 2012, 3:45pm »
Yes... April 21 = Record Store Day. :)

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