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|  | Double-Tull meanings « Thread Started on Mar 28, 2010, 6:49pm » | |
There are many examples in Tull of lyrics having more than one possible meaning, an obvious one with perhaps a secondary meaning which very often is double entendre.
One example of this is Valley. Initially I didn't read anything into the opening line, I just thought it meant being really tired, and having trouble getting out of bed, kind of like Life's a Long Song, the notion of "falling awake."
It was only later that it dawned on me that "Wake hard in the morning" was a reference to morning wood! Duhhhhh...
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P.S. Let's see if we can come up with other examples of these double-Tull meanings.
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #1 on Mar 28, 2010, 8:09pm » | |
Mar 28, 2010, 6:49pm, Nonfatman wrote:There are many examples in Tull of lyrics having more than one possible meaning, an obvious one with perhaps a secondary meaning which very often is double entendre.
One example of this is Valley. Initially I didn't read anything into the opening line, I just thought it meant being really tired, and having trouble getting out of bed, kind of like Life's a Long Song, the notion of "falling awake."
It was only later that it dawned on me that "Wake hard in the morning" was a reference to morning wood! Duhhhhh...
Jeff
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P.S. Let's see if we can come up with other examples of these double-Tull meanings.
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Sure, the very next line:
"See the young girl milking".
No wonder he woke up hard that morning!
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #2 on May 14, 2010, 9:53am » | |
OK, same album. Did you know in the music industry a "soft night" means low ticket sales?
Hence .... Under red lights, on soft nights, it all comes back to you .....
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #3 on May 14, 2010, 10:32am » | |
May 14, 2010, 9:53am, pamelasews wrote:OK, same album. Did you know in the music industry a "soft night" means low ticket sales?
Hence .... Under red lights, on soft nights, it all comes back to you ..... |
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Thanks, Pam, I didn't know that! Little tidbits like that help to really understand the songs.
Jeff
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #4 on May 15, 2010, 5:30am » | |
>>Thanks, Pam, I didn't know that! Little tidbits like that help to really understand the songs.
Jeff
Actually, I think that little tidbit was in fact somewhere in the Roots Tour Brochure ...
It was a while before it hit me; I have noticed that if you analyze songs on a line by line basis, then sometimes the overall meanings gets lost.
As far as waking hard in the morning ... I think that one is gender specific. 
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #5 on Nov 11, 2010, 1:03am » | |
My girlfriend once pointed out a double meaning for the lyrics to Mother Goose, specifically the opening lines: "As I did walk by hamstead fair, I came upon mother goose, so I turned her loose, she was screaming" I know the meaning of the dirty bit, but I remember she pointed out another really great possible meaning and for the life of me I can't remember.
Does anyone else have any ideas?
I know I've heard and pointed out many other double-tull meanings, and that is one of the things I love about Tull, but isn't it funny that when you need to remember something you never can remember it?
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #6 on Dec 3, 2010, 2:54am » | |
Aha! I've remembered another one! Sorry for the double-post.
In Up the Pool the lyric "Sun-tanned stranded starfish in a daze" I think refers to both the literal meaning, but I also envision fat blobs of tourists lying on the beach tanning with their shades on. I also remember reading somewhere that in a blackpool tongue it's a bit hard to pronounce the A consonants in that line the way that Ian sings it, so it's a bit of a tease as well
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #7 on Sept 9, 2011, 6:31am » | |
"ringing no change in his double sewn seams"... change ringing is a manner of ringing church bells in a pattern. And what is swinging back and forth pendulously in a man's pants, I ask? Additionally, there is the 3rd level of rummaging through one's pockets looking for change.
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #8 on Sept 9, 2011, 10:12am » | |
On "Ringing no change in his double sewn seams" for me was referring to the fact that "old rockers" used to roll up the cuffs of their jeans and drop loose change in them. It would ring as they walked. The newer style was straight cuffs just "double sewn seams" thereby not "Ringing change" Something Ray Lomas, the old rocker, resisted. Also as you say like "his" church bells not ringing any longer. Darin Cody
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #9 on Sept 9, 2011, 10:38am » | |
Well... there's the obvious: Rock's On the Road as in rock is on the road again or Rocks on the Road as in the thousand little troubles encountered while ....rock is on the road....:-) Darin
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #10 on Feb 17, 2012, 5:35pm » | |
I like, 'My zero to your power of ten = nothing at all.
of ten or often
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #11 on Apr 12, 2012, 8:58pm » | |
Sorry for almost necro-posting, but I thought of:
"Down in the swamps iguanas glistening, toast tomorrow if not today." Since this song is about a volcanic island tragedy, the iguanas are either raising a glass to tomorrow, or they will *be* toast tomorrow.
Granted that's on an Anderson solo album.
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #12 on Apr 17, 2012, 12:26am » | |
Sept 9, 2011, 10:38am, Darin Cody wrote:Well... there's the obvious: Rock's On the Road as in rock is on the road again or Rocks on the Road as in the thousand little troubles encountered while ....rock is on the road....:-) Darin |
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Well spoken!
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #13 on Apr 26, 2012, 6:14pm » | |
May 14, 2010, 9:53am, pamelasews wrote:OK, same album. Did you know in the music industry a "soft night" means low ticket sales?
Hence .... Under red lights, on soft nights, it all comes back to you ..... |
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I have always loved that lyric, and, all these years later, I finally know what it means (I'd been assigning my own mental image to it all this time)! Thank you for the information. 
David
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #14 on Jul 19, 2012, 10:59am » | |
"... and in the eyes of those 5 sisters of Kintail there's a wink of seduction from the mainland..." just yesterday drove from western Scotland to the south past the 5 sisters' mountain peaks.
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #15 on Dec 16, 2012, 4:14am » | |
Shunt And Shuffle: While barren Madge prepares hot dinner.Fray Bentos pie: always a winner. Is Ian referring to eating fur pie at the Y?
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #16 on Dec 16, 2012, 11:13am » | |
Dec 16, 2012, 4:14am, Mystery To Me wrote:Shunt And Shuffle: While barren Madge prepares hot dinner.Fray Bentos pie: always a winner. Is Ian referring to eating fur pie at the Y? |
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I think Hermione was at the earlier pie eating contest.  The Fray Bentos pie would be good for most blokes who have less money to spend. Much like our American "Banquet Pot Pies". Uuh umm good.
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #17 on Dec 16, 2012, 4:44pm » | |
Jim: The topic is double meanings whereas "eating Hermione for lunch"is pretty much straightforward,either way chow down. Possibly,with a bib on?
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|  | Re: Double-Tull meanings « Reply #18 on Dec 24, 2012, 11:55am » | |
Not really a double entendre, but it's appropriate for this time of the year - the line 'Seven maids move in seven time' from "Ring Out Solstice Bells" is actually quite clever, because the song is, in fact, in 7/8.
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