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Re: FRANK ZAPPA « Reply #1 on Aug 8, 2012, 9:48pm »
Frank Zappa a unique and smart musician who exceeded the status quo with disregard to expectation. Albeit with heavy ego and opinion. I could do without him, but I'm glad he is there for people who love and find inspiration from him. Ian Anderson being one of them, I suppose.
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Re: FRANK ZAPPA « Reply #3 on Aug 9, 2012, 1:55pm »
Frank Zappa - Barcelona 1988 (Full Show) Frank Zappa, Ike Willis, Mike Keneally, Scott Thunes, Chad Wackerman, Ed Mann, Bobby Martin, Bruce Fowler, Walt Fowler, Paul Carman, Albert Wing, Kurt McGettrick. Set-list Frank Zappa intro en castellano (subtitulado en inglés) The Black Page #2 Packard Goose (Medley) Sharleena Bamboozled By Love Black Napkins When The Lie’s So Big Planet Of The Baritone Women Any Kind Of Pain Jesus Thinks You’re A Jerk Sofa Find Her Finer Big Swifty I Ain’t Got No Heart Love Of My Life The Torture Never Stops (Medley) Bolero Watermelon In Easter Hay Whipping Post I Am The Walrus The Illinois Enema Bandit
Glad you can relate to Frank and his coolness. It takes a special type of imagination and humor to figure out what he's about. My first exposure was "Overnight Sensation" and saw the '75 tour of "One Size Fits All". Over the years Frank had become the spokesman for "Free Speech" against conservative thinking. The record industry eventually caved in so his efforts were not successful. His unique style and musicianship is forever missed.
Glad you can relate to Frank and his coolness. It takes a special type of imagination and humor to figure out what he's about. My first exposure was "Overnight Sensation" and saw the '75 tour of "One Size Fits All". Over the years Frank had become the spokesman for "Free Speech" against conservative thinking. The record industry eventually caved in so his efforts were not successful. His unique style and musicianship is forever missed.
Well Said Erin. I was priviliged to meet one of Zappa's excellent drummers during the early 90's. Chester Thompson was doing a seminar and drum clinic in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Of course he was a current member of GENESIS that year. Thanks Chester! You ROCK.
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Re: FRANK ZAPPA « Reply #9 on Aug 11, 2012, 1:31pm »
Yes Zappa Does Rule. My first of many live exposures was 72. Thinking I was going to see the "Flo And Eddie" line-up of the Mothers (Eddie are you kidding!) Frank came out and stepped onto the conductors podium in front of a full on Neo-phonic Orchestra! Once in a while he'd play his guitar but he mostly conducted...I was blown away. Nothing I heard that night was previously released (something he did constantly thru the early 70s) but it became Waka Jawaka and Grand Wazoo. From then on I didn't miss him much when he was around and each and everytime was a new musical treat (I always loved Ruth Underwood!) Here's a great vid from the Roxy (you can see me in the back....not really but I was there!....no really!)
If you want to know more about this true genius pick up "The Real Zappa Book" (and listen to Black Napkins & the Black Page while you read it) In the 80s he joined the fight against the PMRC (That was Tipper Gore btw) and censorship of ANY kind (not conservative thought as erroneously mentioned) He was a great Capitalist and true Libertarian and did not suffer fools. He was an anti government individualist. (paraphrasing) There is an over abundance of stupid in the universe and if you don't believe me take a quick look at the government. He predicted that someday you will just call up a service and order the music that you wanted to hear. It would come through the phone lines!!! haha! Stayed completely away from drugs and anybody in his band was required to do the same, not for moral reasons, it was purely a practical matter. (they cant play as well stoned and my band can't play if one of them is in jail!) He was a pragmatist of the highest order. I met him briefly a couple of times and met various members of his bands. Such a massive shame he is gone....
By our friend Carl Dunn. Note: This was a regular hand signal to the band among many that they had to react to, all eyes in the band on Frank. BUT he just may be flipping off the audience
Thanks for making my point Frank Ultra-Conservatives
So I guess even The Gores (Al and Tipper) can step on your constitutional rights huh?, ......ultra conservatives? Maybe just politically powerful zealots who want to control what you hear, eat and think.......yeah lets give them more power... they're liberals, they care about us! Like the Fairness Doctrine for instance (read about it), Al Gore likes that one, a lot. I wonder which side of that issue Frank would be on? Left, Right?.....Gets kind of confusing when you realize that your eating your own tail. DC
So I guess even The Gores (Al and Tipper) can step on your constitutional rights huh?, ......ultra conservatives? Maybe just politically powerful zealots who want to control what you hear, eat and think....... yeah lets give them more power... they're liberals, they care about us! Like the Fairness Doctrine for instance (read about it), Al Gore likes that one, a lot. I wonder which side of that issue Frank would be on? Left, Right?..... Gets kind of confusing when you realize that your eating your own tail. DC
Well Tipper Gore sure wasn't a bleeding heart liberal back in '85. Her husband was on a committee run by Republicans in the Senate. She got upset watching MTV with her daughter and so did Secretary of State James Baker's wife. The 'Desperate Housewives' got together and formed the PMRC. The Republican Chair of the Commerce and Transportation allowed this hearing to take place. The record companies caved in voluntarily so nothing happened with the committee.
Quote Frank Zappa : "If it smells like a Republican, it's a Republican."
So I guess even The Gores (Al and Tipper) can step on your constitutional rights huh?, ......ultra conservatives? Maybe just politically powerful zealots who want to control what you hear, eat and think....... yeah lets give them more power... they're liberals, they care about us! Like the Fairness Doctrine for instance (read about it), Al Gore likes that one, a lot. I wonder which side of that issue Frank would be on? Left, Right?..... Gets kind of confusing when you realize that your eating your own tail. DC
Well Tipper Gore sure wasn't a bleeding heart liberal back in '85. Her husband was on a committee run by Republicans in the Senate. She got upset watching MTV with her daughter and so did Secretary of State James Baker's wife. The 'Desperate Housewives' got together and formed the PMRC. The Republican Chair of the Commerce and Transportation allowed this hearing to take place. The record companies caved in voluntarily so nothing happened with the committee. Quote Frank Zappa : "If it smells like a Republican, it's a Republican."
James Bakker lll completely skewered Zappa. Without a how-do -you-do... Havel of the newly democratic Czech Republic loved Zappa and appointed him their american ambassador to promote business in the Czech Rep. Basically, send businesses from the US their way. James Baker made a special trip to Prague to say to Havel "You do business with the United States or you do business with Zappa.....choose" and he handed him the pen. So the Bakers, and republicans in general, but especially the Bakers were not his favorite animal. Along with those assholes Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and the so-called religious right that jumped on the PMRC band wagon. Maybe you (Jim) need to make a better distinction between Libertarian and Republican. A Capitalist isn't always a Republican. Just because someone is against Liberal Democrats spending every penny we have (excuse me, borrowing every penny we spend) for social programs and government pensions doesnt make them a Rebublican. There IS a difference...for a reason. Funny how the Gores could be labled "conservatives" and then they (he) is magically on the other side........Did the term change? or did he? The Fairness Doctrine read about it. Its censorship. Darin
Yes Zappa Does Rule. My first of many live exposures was 72. Thinking I was going to see the "Flo And Eddie" line-up of the Mothers (Eddie are you kidding!) Frank came out and stepped onto the conductors podium in front of a full on Neo-phonic Orchestra! Once in a while he'd play his guitar but he mostly conducted...I was blown away. Nothing I heard that night was previously released (something he did constantly thru the early 70s) but it became Waka Jawaka and Grand Wazoo. From then on I didn't miss him much when he was around and each and everytime was a new musical treat (I always loved Ruth Underwood!) Here's a great vid from the Roxy (you can see me in the back....not really but I was there!....no really!)
That's awesome, man. You are a part of music history! Have you heard "Wazoo" yet, the live set from that 72 tour?
We just put up a deck on my house which took about two months. To celebrate, we decided to install some outdoor speakers so we can enjoy music outdoors. When we went to a local electronics store, we elected to fire up a pair of Klipsch's with some Zappa. You should've seen the annoyed looks we got when we cranked up "Peaches en Regalia"! Later, we brought them home and fired up "Inca Roads" ... doors were slammed. Our neighbors were not pleased...
Yes Zappa Does Rule. My first of many live exposures was 72. Thinking I was going to see the "Flo And Eddie" line-up of the Mothers (Eddie are you kidding!) Frank came out and stepped onto the conductors podium in front of a full on Neo-phonic Orchestra! Once in a while he'd play his guitar but he mostly conducted...I was blown away. Nothing I heard that night was previously released (something he did constantly thru the early 70s) but it became Waka Jawaka and Grand Wazoo. From then on I didn't miss him much when he was around and each and everytime was a new musical treat (I always loved Ruth Underwood!) Here's a great vid from the Roxy (you can see me in the back....not really but I was there!....no really!)
That's awesome, man. You are a part of music history! Have you heard "Wazoo" yet, the live set from that 72 tour?
We just put up a deck on my house which took about two months. To celebrate, we decided to install some outdoor speakers so we can enjoy music outdoors. When we went to a local electronics store, we elected to fire up a pair of Klipsch's with some Zappa. You should've seen the annoyed looks we got when we cranked up "Peaches en Regalia"! Later, we brought them home and fired up "Inca Roads" ... doors were slammed. Our neighbors were not pleased...
Hahahaha Very nice! infect the neighborhood.... I take it this is the remaster of Peaches? Sounds much different. Has always been my favorite song. As a young flute player searching for anything I could learn, Peaches was the one thing Frank had to offer me and am proud to say I conquered it! Yes Im sooo a part of history...I'm a dinosaur, somebody is picking my bones! No I haven't heard the Wazoo 72 live! Whats it on? One of the "Can't do that...." series? I have "Big Swifty" on Vol 1 I like to add that when Frank did that Hollywood bowl show with the NeoPhonic Orchestra, for WakaJawaka, he had a cast on his leg! Some weeks before had been pulled off the stage (I think in Germany) by a guy in the audience that thought Frank was making too many goo goo eyes at his girlfriend. He ended up falling something like 18ft into the orchestra pit. The Doors also played that night (sans Jim of course) with a jazz flute and sax player, Charles Lloyd which made for some really great long jams. Manzerek did Morrisons voice perfectly on the few actual Doors tunes they did, but it all got really creepy when during the extended psyco delic Light my Fire jam, Manzerek started quietly singing "Jims coming baaaack...Jims comiiinng baaaack". All they needed was a Theromin. (see the inside of Waka Jawawka and in the artwork is a partial "Doors" logo and Hollywood Bowl Sept.10 72) Liking your blog! Keep it up! Darin Cody
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Re: FRANK ZAPPA « Reply #17 on Aug 12, 2012, 3:40pm »
This is the vinyl version of Peaches, as it sounded in 1969! You're probably used to the CD version which is an 80's remix...
There are two recordings of FZ's jazz-era. Imaginary Diseases features the Petite Wazoo, which was a 10 piece band and Wazoo features the Grand Wazoo / Hot Rats Orchestra. It sounds to me like you caught both bands, as both played throughout 72 when Zappa was in a cast.
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