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« Thread Started on Mar 14, 2010, 6:56am »

Last week I was in Atlanta taking a training class. I stayed directly across the street from a large mall. Needless to say, I was in the mall a couple of nights. Not surprisingly, there was not one music store in the mall. Now, let's just say Jethro Tull releases a new CD. How would anybody even know about it?

Sidebar - There was a somewhat recent college graduate in the class. He was talking about various web sites where he gets all his FREE music.
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« Reply #1 on Mar 14, 2010, 9:35am »

Jethro Tull releases a new CD. How would anybody even know about it?

It's funny to read this now. In 1995 when I went to a new music/media store and asked for the new Jethro Tull album, (after a store clerk balked), the store manager searched the new stock that had arrived and emerged with Roots to Branches. All this was to his surprise as he said "I thought this band was finished years ago".

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« Reply #2 on Mar 14, 2010, 7:54pm »


Mar 14, 2010, 9:35am, tootull wrote:
Jethro Tull releases a new CD. How would anybody even know about it?
They'll have even less of a chance of finding it with divider labels like this:

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I discovered this in the Manhattan Beach Fry's Electronics a couple months ago. Not only is it SPELLED WRONG, but it's reversed like a PERSON'S NAME and filed under T. *facepalm* I tried to tell an employee what was wrong and that they should fix it, but all they would say is that "It's from corporate." Whatta cop-out... (Sorry it's so blurry, my camera must have misbehaved. Maybe I shoulda used macro mode?)
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« Reply #3 on Mar 14, 2010, 11:15pm »

wow, that's awesome...ugh...It's closed now...boo

Some of my best Tull stuff came from a used store called, 'Backtrax" or something...and of course Dan...
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« Reply #4 on Apr 15, 2010, 9:16am »

I remember when I ran a record store for 2 years it was right when albums were making there final hurrah, and cds were starting to filter in. It was in a smaller town and it was the only record store to have every Jethro Tull album available at all times and a wide selections of imports as well. I had fun with. ahh those were fun days.........
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« Reply #5 on Apr 15, 2010, 9:46am »


Apr 15, 2010, 9:16am, Derek Pith wrote:
I remember when I ran a record store for 2 years it was right when albums were making there final hurrah, and cds were starting to filter in. It was in a smaller town and it was the only record store to have every Jethro Tull album available at all times and a wide selections of imports as well. I had fun with. ahh those were fun days.........


Derek,

Hunting out records then was fun, you could take a whole day to find what you wanted and relished the hunt so to speak.

I can remember going over to Richard Branson's first Virgin record store in Oxford Street, London above Shelley's shoe shop, you had to enter via the shoe shop and take the stairs at the back upstairs to Virgin. What a great place that was, aircraft seats you could lounge in whilst listening to albums over Koss headphones; Great.

Then there was 'One-stop records' in Molton Street. That must have been the smallest record shop in the West End, but it had the best selection of albums ever, mainly on import. A mate of mine used to work there and what a boon that was to swelling our record collections.

Then a stroll back home via Soho market where a small stall, with an odd cloth 'tented' room at the back housed those sort of albums that were never on display to the general public.

Now you get plastic corporate aircraft hangers. Give me a small independent record store with a few hidden gems anyday

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« Reply #6 on Apr 15, 2010, 9:46am »


Mar 14, 2010, 6:56am, Max Quad wrote:
Now, let's just say Jethro Tull releases a new CD. How would anybody even know about it?



If you gave a toss enougth to want to know if your favourite artist had a new album out then you really don't have any excuse not to find out about it.

The official website
The unofficial website
Wiki discography
Social networking sites and so on.

If you don't use the internet I guess you gotta sign up to the fanclub (if they have one) or ask another fan.

I never found record shops to be a great place to find bands like Tull. The mid sized ones might carry a few albums but that would be it.

As for your college pal, yes. You can find most music for free if you know where to look. Agree with it or not that is the reality and while the record industry lobbies government to do something the fact is the bottom has already fallen out of the industry. You have a whole generation now who have never paid for music. The cats out the bag I'm afraid. You either find a way to work with the new rules or you carry on moaning about it until your time is up.
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« Reply #7 on Apr 15, 2010, 10:37am »


Apr 15, 2010, 9:46am, Quizz Kid wrote:

Apr 15, 2010, 9:16am, Derek Pith wrote:
I remember when I ran a record store for 2 years it was right when albums were making there final hurrah, and cds were starting to filter in. It was in a smaller town and it was the only record store to have every Jethro Tull album available at all times and a wide selections of imports as well. I had fun with. ahh those were fun days.........


Derek,

Hunting our records then was fun, you could take a whole day to find what you wanted and relished the hunt so to speak.

I can remember going over to Richard Branson's first Virgin record store in Oxford Street, London above Shelley's shoe shop, you had to enter via the shoe shop and take the stairs at the back upstairs to Virgin. What a great place that was, aircraft seats you could lounge in whilst listening to albums over Koss headphones; Great.

Then there was 'One-stop records' in Molton Street. That must have been the smallest record shop in the West End, but it had the best selection of albums ever, mainly on import. A mate of mine used to work there and what a boon that was to swelling our record collections.

Then a stroll back home via Soho market where a small stall, with an odd cloth 'tented' room at the back housed those sort of albums that were never on display to the general public.

Now you get plastic corporate aircraft hangers. Give me a small independent record store with a few hidden gems anyday



In the late eighties, when I first started living in NYC, there were a ton of little record shops, just like the ones you describe, in Greenwich Village, and I found some terrific Tull-related things in those stores. Sadly, all of them are gone.

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« Reply #8 on Apr 15, 2010, 10:57am »

Sure is sad, and in Greenwich village, those must have been some choice ones. I have a notion that undoubtebly will not hold water held up to the light of day that if the industry went back to vinyl possibly this would ease some of the damage? (Undoubtebly some jamoke would still be uploading it the first second it was available.) But in the era of mindblowing technological advances cannot be something encrypted in there that will fry anyones computer and those who interact with this individual? Its robbery,we all know that, and I believe it has everything to do with what seems to me the much higher ticket prices, they have to make their money back somewhere. God I hate it and the loss of weird record shops or places like Virgin. In Chicago we still have what must be the best jazz record store in the world, blues too and the home of the Delmark label, open at least 50 years, the Jazz Record Mart.
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« Reply #9 on Apr 15, 2010, 6:42pm »

I think ticket prices would of gone up regardless, but your right to a point everything now will be on the Internet and CD sales do suffer severely, as well as the artists. But what sort of still stick in my arse a little is when in mid 90's when the record companies where sued in part of class action suit stating that they overcharge 2 dollars per CD for 3 years..The settlement I was offered was a f...nag CD single during those 3 years I probably bought 700 Cd's. I have no love loss foe record companies. I have spent thousands, but I do believe artists are do their royalties, which most record companies try to screw them out of any way.


Oh and I miss the used record shops I used spend hours upon hours just going through the bins, looking for original pressings and rare records, found a few that way. Great way to spend a rainy Saturday
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« Reply #10 on Apr 27, 2010, 7:44pm »

We have one of the last great independent record stores here. Ear X-tacy - it's been considered one of the top two or three stores in the country. Surprise: Louisville!! But it's undergoing a lot of difficulty now, mainly because their lease is up and they may not be able to keep paying a higher rent. There have been benefits and all...they say they'll still exist in some form, but may go smaller or whatever. They're trying to figure out a way to work with the way music is being distributed now instead of against it. More power to 'em.
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Apr 27, 2010, 7:44pm, rebecca wrote:
We have one of the last great independent record stores here. Ear X-tacy - it's been considered one of the top two or three stores in the country. Surprise: Louisville!! But it's undergoing a lot of difficulty now, mainly because their lease is up and they may not be able to keep paying a higher rent. There have been benefits and all...they say they'll still exist in some form, but may go smaller or whatever. They're trying to figure out a way to work with the way music is being distributed now instead of against it. More power to 'em.


Almost all of the independent record stores in NYC have closed, as well as all of the major retailers like Tower, Virgin, HMV, Sam Goody, etc. There is only one major store still hanging on, with a tremendous selection at good prices, and that is J&R Music World downtown, but that is because they occupy almost all of Park Row with their other stores, electronics, computers, cameras, etc.

Aside from that, the only place you can still buy CDs are the major book retailers, like Borders and Barnes & Nobles, and Best Buy, but these stores don't have good selections at all. When Tower Records closed, that was very sad.

I once got this huge 3-D art deco advertising billboard of the Little Light Music album, created by the art department of the Tower Records store in the Village. It was displayed in the store and I inquired if I could get it when they took it down. They put me in touch with their artist, I gave him $25 for it and took it home in the trunk of a cab because it was like four feet wide by ten feet long. Unfortunately, I no longer have that item (long story behind that....I could kill myself for getting rid of it), but if I did it would be the best item in my collection.

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« Reply #12 on Dec 24, 2010, 5:49pm »

These days, nothing makes me happier then finding/being shown a good record store, and spending hours going through all the bins, and I'm blessed to have a really great store within walking distance of my house.

As for finding out about new album releases from my favorite artists, I've recently signed up for quite a few forums where I'm sure that information would be brought up, so no worries there.
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« Reply #13 on Dec 25, 2010, 9:14am »

I just found a new used record store myself last week.... that was a lot of fun ...bought probably 2000 45's(mostly crap) some really good ones, 40 albums, 10 cds for 200 bucks. It was worth it just going through it all
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« Reply #14 on Jun 24, 2012, 4:07pm »

How many people got turned on to new music (to them) while browsing in an old-style music store?

In the 80s when I lived in LA, I know of at least two cases:

1) My first "hear" of U2 was hearing "New Year's Day" on the PA of a little hippie-style music store in Belmont Shores in Long Beach. That song came on and I immediately went "WTF is THAT???" and have been a fan since.

2) Also in LA, but I think in the Wherehouse chain, first time I heard anything by the Australian band The Church. Very interesting band, not anywhere as much variety as Tull's history but worth a listen.
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Jun 24, 2012, 4:07pm, kcrvrrnnr wrote:
How many people got turned on to new music (to them) while browsing in an old-style music store?

In the 80s when I lived in LA, I know of at least two cases:

1) My first "hear" of U2 was hearing "New Year's Day" on the PA of a little hippie-style music store in Belmont Shores in Long Beach. That song came on and I immediately went "WTF is THAT???" and have been a fan since.

2) Also in LA, but I think in the Wherehouse chain, first time I heard anything by the Australian band The Church. Very interesting band, not anywhere as much variety as Tull's history but worth a listen.


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I remember hearing the Dixie Dregs ( which later became just the Dregs ) song, " Old World" at a local record store and bought the album and became a big Steve Morse after that.


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In the early 70's, I discovered albums and 8Track tapes at The Record Bar.
Every mall I went to in North Carolina had one. I thought they would last forever.
They also sold tickets to the first Tull concerts I went to in Greensboro, N.C.
Those were the days of Midnight Madness, you could save money on albums if you could stay up late.

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« Reply #17 on Jun 24, 2012, 7:21pm »

I use to work in one of those music stores. We did not have a Record Bar, the town I grew up in was much to small. It was an independent store and people would come from all over the county. What a great memory. It was 1975, War Child days. There was another big muisc chain at the time I Think it was called Sam Goodies.
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Jun 24, 2012, 7:21pm, Teacher wrote:
I use to work in one of those music stores.
We did not have a Record Bar, the town I grew up in was much to small.
It was an independent store and people would come from all over the county. What a great memory.
It was 1975, War Child days. There was another big muisc chain at the time.
I Think it was called Sam Goodies.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct!
Sam Goodys was another big time record store that tried to compete at Crabtree Valley Mall in Raleigh.
Eventually it became F.Y.E.
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