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[poll] PollPoll Question: Do you think TaaB is a serious piece of work or is it a spoof concept album?
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« Reply #20 on Apr 12, 2011, 8:02am »

I think A PASSION PLAY, as opposed to TAAB, is very much a thought out and structured attempt to build a coherent argument about Anderson's perspective on the world and what we're doing in it. Together with WAR CHILD (both album and movie treatment) and CHATEAU DISASTER, APP represents too much work on a single concept to be dismissed as any kind of parody. Though being an Ian Anderson production, it naturally contains a good deal of humor, as well. Irony is his natural mode.
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« Reply #21 on Apr 12, 2011, 8:07am »

And finally, while on the topic, the interlude of "The Story of the Hare who Lost his Spectacles" is far from merely a goofy romp. Yes, it's funny and it's recitation is outrageously entertaining, but when looked at closely it's the story of the young artist who is told by everyone how he should view the world but who knows secretly and with excitement that he has his own vision. It works perfectly with the "Forest Dance," especially in the video.
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« Reply #22 on Apr 12, 2011, 8:08am »

I suspect that's enough for anyone and I hope that's not too much for everyone!
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« Reply #23 on Dec 23, 2011, 9:24pm »

Despite what he maintains, A Passion Play was the most serious thing Anderson ever wrote. It was his grand attempt at "serious" literature as he attempted to put the idea, if not the text of Dante's Divine Comedy to rock music.

I listen to it every once in a while because there are some sweet musical and lyrical phrasing in it. But its not going to be around in 400 years, I suspect. Dante was wise to take Vergil with him on his pilgrimage through the next world. Anderson was accompanied by John Evan in a rabbit suit.
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« Reply #24 on Dec 24, 2011, 12:05pm »


Dec 23, 2011, 9:24pm, Campion wrote:
Despite what he maintains, A Passion Play was the most serious thing Anderson ever wrote. It was his grand attempt at "serious" literature as he attempted to put the idea, if not the text of Dante's Divine Comedy to rock music.

I listen to it every once in a while because there are some sweet musical and lyrical phrasing in it. But its not going to be around in 400 years, I suspect. Dante was wise to take Vergil with him on his pilgrimage through the next world. Anderson was accompanied by John Evan in a rabbit suit.


Hey, Campion!

It will be interesting to see whether classic rock pieces like Passion play survive hundreds of years into the future, like classical music has. It's lasted 40+ years already, so who knows!

Happy Holidays to you.

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P.S. Did we ever get your first name, or have I just forgotten?
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« Reply #25 on Dec 24, 2011, 9:09pm »


Dec 23, 2011, 9:24pm, Campion wrote:
Despite what he maintains, A Passion Play was the most serious thing Anderson ever wrote. It was his grand attempt at "serious" literature as he attempted to put the idea, if not the text of Dante's Divine Comedy to rock music.

I listen to it every once in a while because there are some sweet musical and lyrical phrasing in it. But its not going to be around in 400 years, I suspect. Dante was wise to take Vergil with him on his pilgrimage through the next world. Anderson was accompanied by John Evan in a rabbit suit.


I will certainly concur that Anderson was not farting around when he composed A Passion Play. He may make claims that TAAB was alegedy a lark (but I am not sold on the idea, whatever revisionist comments Ian makes decades later), yet the same cannot be said of A Passion Play, since he trashed the entire Chateau D'Isaster session, opting for an entirely different take on the plot, and for the wealth of material that came from that time period (in particular, "Skating Away" which would have made a fine grand finale for the album).

No, the amount of literary, allegorical and historical references that suffuse A Passion Play: allusions to Dante, Chretien de Troyes, Chaucer, more biblical quotations than can be found at Sunday services, and even mentions of specific medieval mystery and morality plays, indicates heavy research - certainly more than anything in a rock album this side of Bob Dylan.

Will it be around in 400 years? Will the earth be around in 400 years?
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« Reply #26 on Jan 10, 2012, 3:17pm »

Isn't it possible that TAAB is both a serious work AND a spoof concept? Look at Flying Circus, for instance. Python would often take serious ideas and present them by way of satirizing them. Often times the humor of Python was funny, because it was obvious that they were demonstrating one of societies ills through humor. Since Anderson often references the Pythons, isn't it possible that this is the point of TAAB?
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« Reply #27 on Jan 10, 2012, 5:45pm »


Sept 8, 2010, 5:26am, Quizz Kid wrote:

Sept 7, 2010, 10:46am, My God wrote:
I understand Ian's dislike for drugs, however is not alcohol a drug as well. I have seen Ian drink onstage before. :-/

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Didn't Ian once say something along the lines of if Sgt Pepper's was a drug inspired album then A Passion Play was Lowenbrau inspired


I thought I heard him say something similar with "Michelob" though I'm betting he's said it different ways to different crowds. But yeah, I've heard something similar before.
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