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« Reply #20 on Aug 19, 2012, 12:31pm »

September 19, 2010 "Frank Zappa Day"


Frank Zappa - Baltimore Interview, August 1985
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« Reply #22 on Aug 30, 2012, 11:11pm »

I love FZ. He had some real crazy (in a good way) lyrics.
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« Reply #23 on Sept 1, 2012, 4:50pm »

Hello all! Cal Schenkel, artist for Frank Zappa, has agreed to answer fan questions, so ask away! All you have to do is register for the board, which is quick, painless, and Absolutely Freeeee...

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« Reply #24 on Sept 8, 2012, 12:54pm »

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Great thread, Jim. As many should already know, Frank was the best songwriter of the past century and also unique as a person, the only one of his kind.
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« Reply #25 on Sept 8, 2012, 1:20pm »

Whatever matter or style he did deal with was different to everything, he'll be an icon for life for me. :( Check the solo guitars out on this song. Asombrosing ;D



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Great thread, Jim. As many should already know, Frank was the best songwriter of the past century and also unique as a person, the only one of his kind.


I totally agree with you Serge, about Frank, I am a huge fan, have been since the early days. But maybe we could keep the inflammatory political stuff on the interior threads, we all know where that leads.... ;)
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« Reply #28 on Sept 17, 2012, 1:04am »


http://player.vimeo.com/video/16925369?autoplay=1

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« Reply #29 on Sept 17, 2012, 6:16am »


Sept 17, 2012, 1:04am, janu wrote:

http://player.vimeo.com/video/16925369?autoplay=1

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Lyrics to sing along with : http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Legend_Of_The_Illinois_Enema_Bandit
Gracias Sergi for that very cool link to another Zappa Classic! :P For a little insight into the history of the song:

Michael Hubert Kenyon (born c. 1944 in Elgin, Illinois) is an American criminal nicknamed the Enema Bandit.
He pleaded guilty to a decade-long series of armed robberies of female victims,
some of which involved sexual assaults where he would give them enemas.
He is also known as the "Champaign Enema Bandit," the "Ski Masked Bandit", and "The Illinois Enema Bandit".

Attacks and conviction :-X

His earliest attacks were on two teenage sisters in March 1966 in Champaign, Illinois.
Kenyon graduated from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in 1967 and left the state.
The attacks thus ended in Champaign but started anew in Manhattan,
Kansas; Norman, Oklahoma; and Los Angeles, California.

Kenyon returned to Champaign and the attacks resumed in 1972.
In May 1975, Kenyon took a job as an auditor for the Illinois Department of Revenue in Lincolnwood, Illinois.
He then committed additional attacks, including three Cook County flight attendants.
He also attacked four women in an Urbana sorority house, one of whom was administered an enema.
He was involved in a minor traffic accident later that night, but was not arrested.

Kenyon was eventually apprehended in suburban Chicago a few weeks later
in connection with a number of robberies there.
During questioning he began to talk about the enema bandit. After his arrest he was judged to be legally sane;
in December 1975, he pleaded guilty to six counts of armed robbery.
He was sentenced to six to twelve years in prison, for each count.
He was paroled in 1981 after serving six years.

In popular culture :-X

Kenyon became the subject of Frank Zappa's song "The Illinois Enema Bandit",
first released on Zappa in New York.

Jazz composer Henry Threadgill recorded "Salute to the Enema Bandit" on the 1986 album Air Show No. 1.
He was also the inspiration for the 1976 adult film Water Power starring Jamie Gillis (later reissued as Enema Bandit).
The term "enema bandit" came into wider use following the incidents.
In the 1974 novel The Odd Woman by Gail Godwin, the protagonist Jane Clifford, a professor
in a Midwestern university town, fears the Enema Bandit, who represents her fears of losing control of her life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_H._Kenyon
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« Reply #30 on Dec 1, 2012, 1:05am »

"A Day With Frank Zappa-1971" is a documentary made by a dutch television which I have never seen before. Hope you enjoy it. :-*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5aFRBbnF-ag#!

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« Reply #31 on Dec 1, 2012, 10:14am »

Incredible video documentary Sergi ;D I have never seen any of this before. :o WOW ! :-X :-* :-X
FRANK ZAPPA 1971 Carnegie Hall CD Set Unveiled
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/frank-zappa-1971-carnegie-hall-cd-set-unveiled/

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« Reply #32 on Dec 18, 2012, 2:39pm »

Just saw this for the first time a couple of weeks ago, pretty funny. I didn't know that Frank was this "exposed" on television this early in his career. I always thought he was relegated to obscurity in his high desert studio. But this is pretty big time.



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« Reply #33 on Dec 19, 2012, 11:19am »

I found this quote interesting in another forum Happy the Fans, I hope this is not a problem to be published here...
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http://htfo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=music&action=display&thread=593
Why did Zappa want to speak to Ian Anderson? by befrost « Thread Started on Jan 31, 2012, 8:51am »
When ill, dying of cancer, Frank Zappa wanted to speak to Ian Anderson by phone. They were not even friends, so why did Frank wanna talk to Ian?

In a interview with Montreal Mirror Ian said this:

M: Did it hurt your feelings in the late ’70s when all the punk bands were citing Jethro Tull as the antithesis of rock ’n’ roll? Like, hey, why me?
IA: It didn’t upset me particularly when Johnny Rotten lumped Jethro Tull together with a bunch of other things that he despised at the time. In recent years I’ve heard he says “Aqualung” is one of his all time favorite records, so who knows? It upset me more in the early ’70s when Frank Zappa said he didn’t like us. I was quite a fan of Zappa’s music, I admired and revered him as a contemporary, and yeah, having him turn around and suddenly slap us down obviously hurt a little bit.

It made it that much more difficult a few years ago when I got a message from his son saying that Frank, who was terminally ill at the time, would really like me to call him and left me his home phone number. I sat and looked at this number, I even dialed it a few times and hung up, because I just didn’t know what you would say to a dying man, especially one who was on record as not liking my work. But I wanted to speak to him, I just found it really difficult. Then I heard on the news one day that he’d died. I felt a profound sense of loss and deep regret that I had never made that call. I would have liked to have spoken to him, just for a minute.

Another source below, and..another opinion from Frank:

Frank Zappa interviewed by Dick Lawson at The Royal Albert Hall, July, 1969

What do you think of the group scene over here. Have you seen any?

F: Only what I saw down at the Speakeasy a couple of times and I wasn't, you know, exceedingly enthralled by what I saw.

What about the groups that we're currently sending over ... like Jethro Tull and the Nice?

F: I like Jethro Tull and the organist in the Nice very much. I think he plays very well. I also like the Rolling Stones.

Is it strange or did Zappa actually respect Ian's musical ability that much that he wanted to speak to him.


Ian said this in an interview for Examiner in 2010:
“wished I would have played with Zappa. Never had a chance to meet him and then he was gone.”

Any thoughts?


Sources: http://www.afka.net/Articles/1969-07_ZigZag.htm
http://www.montrealmirror.com/ARCHIVES/2002/081502/music1.html
http://www.examiner.com/live-music-in-ch....e-musical-deity


Someone in this forum has more on this?
I consulted the sources cited and I could not find enough information
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« Reply #34 on Dec 19, 2012, 12:03pm »

THAT is very cool Remy. I heard both opinions way back when . That Frank didn't like Tull, but that was in the context of a spate of rock bands doing shows with Orchestras in 1969 "Pop goes the Symphony" I believe is what it was called for Tull anyway. Deep Purple, Zappa and Tull. I read Frank saying he didn't think it worked very well but didn't cite Tull as "bad".
It's really too bad that Ian didn't make the call, that's something you have to live with.
At the end of his life Frank was putting together and hosting musical evenings with very disparate musicians, one I saw with Johnny Guitar Watson (one of Franks idols) playing with some conceptual German Musicians (maybe the yellow shark musicians?) it's been a while and I must check it. Basically putting musicians that would never "naturally" get together from different styles. But Possibly he wanted to include Ian in one of these evenings.....who knows.
Thanks for posting that.
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Dec 19, 2012, 12:03pm, Darin Cody wrote:
THAT is very cool Remy. I heard both opinions way back when . That Frank didn't like Tull, but that was in the context of a spate of rock bands doing shows with Orchestras in 1969 "Pop goes the Symphony" I believe is what it was called for Tull anyway. Deep Purple, Zappa and Tull. I read Frank saying he didn't think it worked very well but didn't cite Tull as "bad".
It's really too bad that Ian didn't make the call, that's something you have to live with.
At the end of his life Frank was putting together and hosting musical evenings with very disparate musicians, one I saw with Johnny Guitar Watson (one of Franks idols) playing with some conceptual German Musicians (maybe the yellow shark musicians?) it's been a while and I must check it. Basically putting musicians that would never "naturally" get together from different styles. But Possibly he wanted to include Ian in one of these evenings.....who knows.
Thanks for posting that.
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Thanks for the info Darin, I think it's an interesting topic, I am a big fan of Zappa and knew something about this, it really is a shame that Ian did not make that call, I will continue investigating, I think Zappa and Anderson are two of the greatest composers of the last century
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« Reply #36 on Dec 20, 2012, 11:24am »

the album "The Mothers live at fillmore east" absolutely blew my mind, but i was very young so it did not take much....
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« Reply #37 on Jan 13, 2013, 12:34pm »

From the original You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Sampler, one of the funniest versions of Montana you'll ever hear:



The ad libs are outrageously hilarious:



Guy In The Audience: "Whipping Post"!

FZ: Say that again please

Guy In The Audience: "Whipping Post"!

FZ: "Whipping Post"? Ok, just a second . . . (Do you know that?) Oh sorry, we don't know that one. Anything else? Hum me a few bars of it, please, just show me how it goes, please. Just sing, sing me "Whipping Post" and then maybe we'll play it with you

Guy In The Audience: Ooh-ooh-ooh . . .

FZ: Thank you very much. And now . . . Judging from the way you sang it, it must be a John Cage composition, right? Here we go, "Montana." One two, one two three four

I might be movin' to . . .

FZ: Hold it! Hold it! We can't possibly start the song off like that!
Good God! That's inexcusable! What happened to you last night?

Napoleon: George has a tape of it

FZ: George has a tape of it? Ok, we'll use that in the second show
Ready? "Montana" . . . Wait a minute, "Whipping Post," no, "Montana." One two, one two three four

FZ: It's too fast for you? One two, one two three four

I might be movin' to Helsinki soon
Just to raise me up a crop of
Dental Floss

Raisin' it up
Waxen it down
Tying it to the Whipping Post
In the middle of town

But by myself I wouldn't
Have no boss,
'Cause I'd be raisin' my lonely
Whipping Post

Raisin' my lonely
Whipping Post
Raisin' my lonely
Whipping Post

(Well) Well I just might grow me some thongs
But I'd leave the heavy stuff
To somebody else . . . now 'bout Chester?
And then I would

Get a person
Tie him up
To the Whipping Post
And beat the living shit out of him
So that guy in the audience was satisfied

But by myself I wouldn't
Have no boss,
'Cause I'd be raisin' my lonely
Whipping Post Floss

Movin' to Montana soon (well . . . )
Gonna be a Dental Floss tycoon (how unique!)
(Whip! Whip!)
Movin' to Montana soon (now . . . )
Gonna be a mennil-toss flykune
(Yes, it's such a ballad at this tempo)

Napoleon: Little Booger-bear . . . Boogers everywhere . . .

FZ: And now for the thrilling conclusion of that song . . .
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And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
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