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Post by My God on Mar 5, 2012 9:23:10 GMT -5
The new samples sound pretty good. I was going to call TAAB2 a Jethro Tull album, but from what I've heard, it sounds like an Ian solo disc. Still love it though. Come on April. There's money in them hills.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 9:48:14 GMT -5
This certainly sounds like Rupi 2 not a TAAB 2 but that being said t is the Ian Anderson Band not Jethro Tull. Like others have stated I don't think it was a wise idea to call it TAAB 2, without at least Martin. However we must look at the BIG positive of this it is new material and Ian is eager to write it sounds like, with another on the way. I do hope that these little teases are just that, and when we get to hear the entire project it will have a better feel to it. As it it is right now it is like a hot fudge sunday it great just to have the ice cream , but even better when you add the hot fudge, whip cream and the nuts...
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Post by flutestobranches on Mar 5, 2012 10:00:12 GMT -5
The samples sound great! I have to say that a lack of "balls" matters not one whit to me. Some old Tull songs that have balls number among my least favorites. I have always loved Ian's acoustic side, and yet marveled at how he was never a folk singer or acoustic pop performer like James Taylor or people like that (who really ARE bland, in my opinion) while not fitting comfortably into the rock genre, either. He forged his own musical path. I like his gentle stuff, and think it still retains the dynamics, the highs and lows... And, yes, I like the squeezy-thing! Can't wait for the album! David
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 10:04:44 GMT -5
Good Day....I agree that the few songs I heard from this album sounds somewhat like Rupi's Dance, but I really like the instrumental piece and if there are more like that, the I will buy this album....but I must agree with SealDriver, Tull as we knew them, is no longer.... Silken... I don't know,I really didn't care for this instrumental when it was simply called, "That Fucking Tune." There have been snippets of 9 out of 17 songs between the official TAAB2 Trailer, The Planet Rock Interview and the new samples of website and the ones they been playing for the past tour or two ,Adrift and A Change of Horses still sound the best. But I agree with TM , that I don't remember any accordian on the original TAAB and it's time to scrap that thing. Kismet in Suburbia sounds like it has potential but the two spoken ones probably won't be listened to more than once and won't get a download in my rotation. I love the idea of a new I.A. disc but I already feel like it was a mistake to label it TAAB2 as there will always be comparisons, no Martin and just seems like a way of cashing in on the Tull name wrapped in Ian Anderson clothing. I think I.A. would have better served just naming it something different and trying to let the fan base discover that it was indeed a continuation of the TAAB theme. Dan
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Post by branimir9000 on Mar 5, 2012 10:21:29 GMT -5
The little video on the Tull site had some nice sounding full-bodied music that sounded like a revisit to TAAB might be worthwhile. These are kind of "meh."
Much as I am a Tull and Ian Anderson backer, I cringe at his spoken word stuff (especially the little add-on commercials he stuck on his solo albums) and I, quite frankly, hated the lyrical content on a lot of Rupi's Dance. The samples here evoke that kind of disinterest from me.
I am beginning to feel that my loyalty to "the brand" is waning, not unlike Mr. Barre.
As for the question "In looking back, has there ever been a Tull album that you simply connected with upon the very first listen?"
For me, yeah. All of the early ones, up to WarChild. But I was a kid. As things went: certainly Stormwatch (my personal favorite), A, the much hated Under Wraps (a live drums re-master would be cool, though I loved the "drums" on "Saboteur" and Roots to Branches (a late career masterpiece, IMHO).
I never have the urge to listen to Catfish Rising or Rock Island. I still remember the Viilage Voice ripping Ian a new one for his "fan surveys" prior to the release of Crest of A Knave and they were right about that, too.
I am pleasantly amazed at the differing "favorite Tull" and "disliked Tull" of fellow Tull fans. We are a very eclectic club, even within our own ranks, indeed.
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Post by Dan on Mar 5, 2012 10:25:33 GMT -5
And in regards to the Pebbles Instrumental, if by putting the words 'Thick As A Brick ' throughout the clip is trying to make the case for continuity ,then it sounds a little forced. No need for it there just like there was no need for the ..."It's Rupi's Dance " tacked on the end of that title song.
Dan
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Post by LJG on Mar 5, 2012 10:50:18 GMT -5
Do we all care that much what the thing is called?
If that was the 'inspiration' for Ian to write again... let him call a spade a spade. He could call it Pink Elephants from Mars for all I care... I'll make a judgment call on the content not the cover.
As for the spoken word stuff... yes it will get old on a repeat listen... but its not like this is the first time spoken word has cropped up in the middle of a concept album... and I don't hear too many on this Board bashing Passion Play....
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 10:53:38 GMT -5
And in regards to the Pebbles Instrumental, if by putting the words 'Thick As A Brick ' throughout the clip is trying to make the case for continuity ,then it sounds a little forced. No need for it there just like there was no need for the ..."It's Rupi's Dance " tacked on the end of that title song. Dan Is that what we are hearing? I was wondering what he was saying... Edit - Wow, having now heard it and knowing what he's saying I don't know about that....
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Post by Dan on Mar 5, 2012 11:00:57 GMT -5
And in regards to the Pebbles Instrumental, if by putting the words 'Thick As A Brick ' throughout the clip is trying to make the case for continuity ,then it sounds a little forced. No need for it there just like there was no need for the ..."It's Rupi's Dance " tacked on the end of that title song. Dan Is that what we are hearing? I was wondering what he was saying... Edit - Wow, having now heard it and knowing what he's saying I don't know about that.... Yes. Listen again. I'm surprised there isn't a subliminal -"buy merchandise at the shows" message. Dan
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 11:03:57 GMT -5
Is that what we are hearing? I was wondering what he was saying... Edit - Wow, having now heard it and knowing what he's saying I don't know about that.... Yes. Listen again. I'm surprised there isn't a subliminal -"buy merchandise at the shows" message. Dan LOL.
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 11:12:16 GMT -5
Do we all care that much what the thing is called? If that was the 'inspiration' for Ian to write again... let him call a spade a spade. He could call it Pink Elephants from Mars for all I care... I'll make a judgment call on the content not the cover. As for the spoken word stuff... yes it will get old on a repeat listen... but its not like this is the first time spoken word has cropped up in the middle of a concept album... and I don't hear too many on this Board bashing Passion Play.... Good question. I guess we'll find out soon enough if this album is worthy of name Ian has given it.
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Post by Dan on Mar 5, 2012 11:13:05 GMT -5
He could call it Pink Elephants from Mars for all I care... I'd rather it was called Pink Elephants without accordions than TAAB2. Dan
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Post by My God on Mar 5, 2012 11:21:40 GMT -5
And in regards to the Pebbles Instrumental, if by putting the words 'Thick As A Brick ' throughout the clip is trying to make the case for continuity ,then it sounds a little forced. No need for it there just like there was no need for the ..."It's Rupi's Dance " tacked on the end of that title song. Dan Is that what we are hearing? I was wondering what he was saying... Edit - Wow, having now heard it and knowing what he's saying I don't know about that.... Ian says Thick as a Brick all right. Dark promises of blood and gore. Interventions at every turn.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 11:27:20 GMT -5
The album is not going to tickle us as much as the original Thick as a Brick did, so we really can't have too much of the expectation that might come with the title.
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Post by LJG on Mar 5, 2012 11:44:07 GMT -5
He could call it Pink Elephants from Mars for all I care... I'd rather it was called Pink Elephants without accordions than TAAB2. Dan "The Secret Language of Pink Elephants" it is then. LOL That being said... I hadn't picked up on the TAAB lyric reference before now... that is a bit heavy-handed...
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Post by jtul07 on Mar 5, 2012 11:48:45 GMT -5
The album is not going to tickle us as much as the original Thick as a Brick did, so we really can't have too much of the expectation that might come with the title. This won't be the same as losing your virginity or catching your first buzz in 1972. This will be like finding new ways to party with an old friend. "Owl loved to rest quietly whilst no one was watching." The spoken word.
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 5, 2012 12:11:19 GMT -5
Although I would always tend to avoid any judgement before I hear the complete work, I have kinda weird (yet somehow familiar) feeling, this might turn out far less enjoyable than Birds or Rupi. (also heard samples on Planet Rock and trailer). Agree with LJG about vocals, which would (in Ian's case) certainly need some more studio wizardry support. And yes, everything sounds more like a really good "live" recording (and yet quite sterile) rather than proper studio effort. But what could we expect after only ten days of recording?? I don't think nowadays you can make something exceptional in terms of studio work within only ten days. And furthermore, who needs a "live" sounding record after so many years of waiting?! The Beacons Bottom Tapes 2 on the horizon?? But..hey, oldghost...hold your horses...it's not over yet! 54 minutes (at least) of listening still awaiting! Ok, ok..I will shut up now. I just wish TAAB2 in it's entirety and you dear forum colleagues will prove me wrong.
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 12:11:20 GMT -5
A little balance or perspective.... I love Old School Song and the reprise of the Hammond Organ from Edit 4.
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Post by skytzo on Mar 5, 2012 12:47:19 GMT -5
A little balance or perspective.... I love Old School Song and the reprise of the Hammond Organ from Edit 4. The ratio of Hammond organ to "squeezy thing" better be HUGE.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 12:58:00 GMT -5
The ratio of Hammond organ to "squeezy thing" better be HUGE. I suggest we term it the 'Evans-Giddings Quotient'
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Post by Preston Platform on Mar 5, 2012 13:13:15 GMT -5
I am beginning to get quite worried about this whole project
I was very unimpressed by the snippets just posted on the Tull site
Hope that this impression proves to be wrong ...but in my view based upon samples posted is that it all sounds a bit below par sub Rupi
hope it is a false initial reaction and that the whole 54 mins has a much better feel
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 5, 2012 14:05:09 GMT -5
Does anybody agree, when Ian uses glockenspiel, he always puts it too much to the fore in the mix? And it seems the story continues on TAAB2, although I know many would point a finger at Steven Wilson now...but anyway?
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 14:05:50 GMT -5
The ratio of Hammond organ to "squeezy thing" better be HUGE. I suggest we term it the 'Evans-Giddings Quotient' You know when John played it, it never bothered me. Same thing goes for Mark Knopfler solo work with it. It doesn't bother me how it's used on his records either. Maybe it's simply mixed to high. Whatever the case is, I was very disappointed to hear it on A Change of Horses. The viola was so perfect for that song...
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Post by TM on Mar 5, 2012 14:09:42 GMT -5
Does anybody agree, when Ian uses glockenspiel, he always puts it to much to the fore in the mix? And it seems the story continues on TAAB2, although I know many would point a finger at Steven Willson now...but anyway? I am not a huge fan of Ian's mixing skills. His percussion is always mixed too high IMO. I was really looking forward to hearing Steve turn down the flute and the keyboards on this record as well.
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Post by Dan on Mar 5, 2012 14:29:13 GMT -5
I'd rather it was called Pink Elephants without accordions than TAAB2. Dan "The Secret Language of Pink Elephants" it is then. LOL That being said... I hadn't picked up on the TAAB lyric reference before now... that is a bit heavy-handed... Good title. And like the anagram for Secret Language of Birds (SLOB)..we can call this one SLOPE, as in..slippery. Dan
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