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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 17:16:24 GMT -5
I think (!) it's at 37 from 1971. Interestingly from 71 to 79 I saw 14 Tull shows. I think seeing the band live tells the story, its all about the performances. Studio recordings can be very carefully constructed things and I learned early on that Tull could throw that all out the window and and play the song in the way makes you see and hear it in a whole different way, the REAL way. Leaving you with a record that is just a bit of a polished souvenir. That is why I have been so interested in "boots" over the years. Making a record takes from weeks to a couple of months of working on and bringing new material to life. The rest of the year the band are touring and working it out live and finding a songs strengths and building on what was recorded. For instance, the songs from Aqualung, in 1971, that were being played on stage every night, were stronger in the following years set of the TA AB show, then they were in 1971 during the Aqualung tour. Also, on stage is where we heard that electric guitar that was low in most every mix on an album! I think everyone has their perception of the band. I'm glad I got to see them when I did. It leaves me believing that what Ian delivers now days is a remnant. It has it's moments but its a remnant. Darin "trying to be not irrelevant" Cody Sorry buddy, but the first winner of our brand new award is going to Tull tapes!
;D Thanks Paul I'm honored!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 18:24:43 GMT -5
Sorry buddy, but the first winner of our brand new award is going to Tull tapes!
;D Thanks Paul I'm honored! Damn!......But then that means I have been successful in achieving relativism!?
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Post by flutestobranches on Jan 28, 2013 19:44:05 GMT -5
I've seen Tull/Ian 25 times:
1984 1987 1988 1989 1991 (twice) 1992 1993 1995 (three times) 1996 1997 2000 2001 (twice) 2003 2006 2007 2008 2009 (twice) 2010 (twice) 2012
Second after that: the Canadian guitarist Bruce Cockburn (eleven times) and after that, Fairport Convention (four times)
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Post by TM on Jan 28, 2013 20:20:34 GMT -5
;D Thanks Paul I'm honored! Damn!......But then that means I have been successful in achieving relativism!? Let's not go that far!
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Post by Tommiebaby on Jan 29, 2013 22:03:00 GMT -5
The reason I pose this question (and I posed it once before, a few years ago) is this:
I first waw Tull in 1973 and have seen them in concert almost every time they (or Ian, solo) have hit the NYC or Northeast area. But I became increasingly perturbed at the shows playing the same old songs over & over, Ian's terrible singing voice, the same old jokes he'd tell, etc. But I'd still go til the last few years. But i've seen him/them over 50 times.
But I knew that a rock band didnt have to be so repetitious or condescending to their audience because I also saw other bands almost as much as Tull so I had a frame of reference. What I see here is a lot of long-time Tull fans have seen them in concert many,many times ......let's say, 30-40 times, but the next band in number of times is. like. 3 times! So you really dont know what a really good performer does. There's no solid frame of reference to compare Tull's performances to.
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Post by Mothfairy on Jan 29, 2013 23:24:01 GMT -5
Oh, I see what you mean. The bands I mentioned I'd seen more were, somewhere around 15 times since 2000. I did notice some patterns. They would have a set list and not stray from that list for a couple of years. He would in fact say the same jokes and/or intro to a song every time. Say the same things to the audience every time. It may be fairly common.
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Post by Tommiebaby on Jan 30, 2013 2:23:00 GMT -5
Yeah....well the point I'm making is most of the folks who are fanatical about Ian/Tull in concert have only (more or less) seen Ian/Tull in concert! Maybe many times and no--one else even comes close in number. Whereas if u see a (for examole) Neil Young, who's older than Ian and tours even more you'd see someone who still sings with a strong a singing voice as ever, who has continued to release new recordings over the years, who changes set-lists, etc. There are others but I'm just using Young as an examole. But if you only go out and see Ian/Tull.you dont realize this.
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Post by TM on Jan 30, 2013 12:31:33 GMT -5
Tull were a pretty special live act compared to a lot of artists even though as Tommie stated, they are very scripted. And unlike someone like Bruce, they play the same stuff on tour over and over again.
But that doesn't bother me as much as the one time I watched Bruce Hornsby actually pretend to play songs totally off-the-cuff, only then to perform a very complex and very different version of one of his well known songs.
Truth is, most "big" artists I see, once was enough. But the smaller acts that play at the local venues, those I'll go to see repeatedly.
Ellis Paul for instance, is one performer who I've seen many more times than Ian over the last few years.
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Post by flutestobranches on Jan 30, 2013 16:53:19 GMT -5
The reason I pose this question (and I posed it once before, a few years ago) is this: I first waw Tull in 1973 and have seen them in concert almost every time they (or Ian, solo) have hit the NYC or Northeast area. But I became increasingly perturbed at the shows playing the same old songs over & over, Ian's terrible singing voice, the same old jokes he'd tell, etc. But I'd still go til the last few years. But i've seen him/them over 50 times. But I knew that a rock band didnt have to be so repetitious or condescending to their audience because I also saw other bands almost as much as Tull so I had a frame of reference. What I see here is a lot of long-time Tull fans have seen them in concert many,many times ......let's say, 30-40 times, but the next band in number of times is. like. 3 times! So you really dont know what a really good performer does. There's no solid frame of reference to compare Tull's performances to. I understand your point of view, and you make a good point. However, even though (as in my case) my no. 2 slot comes in at eleven times as opposed to 25 for Tull, I have seen a LOT of other artists as well. Many of them only once, but once was enough in a lot of cases (as TM pointed out). The reason I go back to Tull/Ian so often is because I feel it is worth it. Plus, ticket prices are so expensive these days that it makes me very selective. I've seen tons of different artists, but if money is tight, I will go for the one I KNOW I will enjoy. Great post! David
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Post by Mothfairy on Jan 30, 2013 20:51:06 GMT -5
Guess it's just the bands I see that do , haha
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Post by Tommiebaby on Jan 30, 2013 22:11:56 GMT -5
Yeah...I guess I've just been fanatical about seeing my fave artists "live". It's the one thing I'll splurge money on, even to the point of saving up when a particular artist comes around. When i love a band/artist on disc I just gotta see them in concert. Roughly it's been thus:
Tull/Ian 55 times
Neil Young 53
Jack Bruce 53
Pearl Jam 20-ish
Radiohead 20-ish
U2 15-ish
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Post by Oldghost on Jan 30, 2013 22:42:37 GMT -5
9 times since 1991 (Munich Olimpic Hall) + 1 time Ian solo .
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Post by Tommiebaby on Jan 31, 2013 2:31:34 GMT -5
Forgot another fave: Morrissey- like 20 times
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Post by Preston Platform on Jan 31, 2013 14:13:34 GMT -5
Tull ...Ian Anderson about 56 times Many other bands over the years here are just some that I can remember Focus ...10 times Molly Bloom 8 times Manning .......5 times Tangent .......4 times Deep Purple 2 times Yes 2 times Paraphernalia 3 times Norma Winstone 3 times Eberhard Weber 5 times Jan Garbarek 3 times Isotope 3 times Thieves Kitchen 2 times Quidam 2 times White Willow once Uriah Heep once Caravan once Camel once National Health once Pure Reason Revolution once Paul Gilbert once Jan Akkerman once Aristocrats once Solstice 2 times Page and Plant once Kinks 2 times
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Post by Tommiebaby on Jan 31, 2013 22:49:29 GMT -5
Spread your time, money and musical interests around, folks. Expand your concert movie horizons. See OTHER acts, too!
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Post by Tommiebaby on Jan 31, 2013 22:50:02 GMT -5
Spread your time, money and musical interests around, folks. Expand your concert music horizons. See OTHER acts, too!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 23:32:59 GMT -5
Spread your time, money and musical interests around, folks. Expand your concert music horizons. See OTHER acts, too! Thanks. I believe we had a thread going (which I cannot find right now) where people were listing all the concerts attended. I was referencing a couple of piles of stubs I started saving from 72. I quit after about 200 because I was tired. But I think most of the respondents were very well rounded in the tastes and experiences they'd had over the years. Darin
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Post by Mothfairy on Jan 31, 2013 23:59:01 GMT -5
In the end, I just want to go see what makes me happy, everyone should.
A little of what you fancy does you good, or so it should.
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Post by Chea on Feb 1, 2013 8:41:57 GMT -5
I have started to follow the Jethro Tull in the late 70, and about, I reached the number of 65 appearances. My next concert will be the one in Zurich for the month of May. ::)However, perhaps there could be some time before then, here in Italy.
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Post by Tommiebaby on Feb 1, 2013 9:00:00 GMT -5
Chea, what other bands have you seen? How many times?
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Post by Chea on Feb 1, 2013 10:42:11 GMT -5
Chea, what other bands have you seen? How many times? Hello Tommy. Long ago, unfortunately, about another beloved Band, for me, the immense GENESIS, at least 10 times, " Phil period ", only twice, Paul Mc Cartney, several times, I don't remember how many, maybe 5 0 6, Elton John, and last week, Marillion. My wife wanted to see a show of Madonna, two concerts. Have a nice weekend. Michele.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 7:41:08 GMT -5
I have seen Tull once, Roger Waters once, The White Stripes (I don't think most people realize how fucking high energy they are live, but they're over now) once, Lou Reed once, the Temptations (modern lineup, one original member) once, and a plethora of smaller acts.
I suppose my budget and time is spent on the smaller things in life.
I would say smart comment to Tommie, but who gives a fuck.
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Post by trw1964 on May 9, 2013 8:08:58 GMT -5
I've seen Tull 10 times since the mid 80's. Seen Aerosmith, Clapton, Alice Cooper, The Kinks and Ringo Starr's all star band and Genesis multiple times.
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Post by TM on May 9, 2013 11:55:45 GMT -5
This idea that Tull fans don't see or appreciate other artists is just silly. I would suggest that most Tull fans are musicians, artists, or have the ability to appreciate the intricacies of music. Therefore I imagine we all have a broad palette of artists that we enjoy.
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Post by Misteman 4 on May 9, 2013 15:32:59 GMT -5
since 1974 i have seen ian anderson with or without tull 23 times, mostly out in the western part of usa. this year however i'm doing something i have not done since 1998 which is to see the same concert tour twice in the same year or so. i saw TAAB1 and 2 last october in tulsa and will again in july at kansas city...i'm quite sure i will enjoy it even more the 2nd time around. i saw the "broadsword/beast" tour in 2 different cities in 1982 and saw tull twice in 1998 and then again in 1999. after that it had been until 2012 before i saw another ian/tull show.
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