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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2013 23:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 4:31:36 GMT -5
another fine piece of work. Well done!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 5:42:09 GMT -5
who will be next ??
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Post by Dan on Jul 26, 2013 7:18:13 GMT -5
Yes, fine work again Charlie!
Not to nitpick but was his work he did with Mr. Methane omitted for bad taste?
Dan
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Post by TM on Jul 26, 2013 8:12:17 GMT -5
Excellent work guys.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 13:31:44 GMT -5
I think he produced Mr Methane. I could not find any information if he played on it any of it. I just tried to get the material he played on. As with all of these we are always looking for any and all information we can get to make it as complete as we can.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 14:21:34 GMT -5
I think he produced Mr Methane. I could not find any information if he played on it any of it. I just tried to get the material he played on. As with all of these we are always looking for any and all information we can get to make it as complete as we can. Charlie and Darin - Amazing work on this! You are guys are onto something here. Not sure if anything was recorded but he did play with Mr. Methane for a little bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 15:44:56 GMT -5
Mr Methane - Mr Methane.com (1999) Christmas Album (2003) Mr. Methane - Let's Rip! DVD
also on the The Beatles - Dark Horse: The Secret Life Of George Harrison - 1995 track 30 Barrie talks about George Harrison for about 2 minutes. I did not add that one.
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Post by marchdrummer on Aug 1, 2013 11:45:30 GMT -5
I am new on this site I did not know that he did so many side projects I knew about his work with Plant and Page and Yngwie but did not know about the others I am a drummer and Barriemore is one of my favorite drummers has great taste and great drum parts one of the only drummers I know that the band had to arrange songs around the drum parts way to go Barriemore
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 14:36:58 GMT -5
I am new on this site I did not know that he did so many side projects I knew about his work with Plant and Page and Yngwie but did not know about the others I am a drummer and Barriemore is one of my favorite drummers has great taste and great drum parts one of the only drummers I know that the band had to arrange songs around the drum parts way to go Barriemore Yes my all time favorite Drummer. I once saw UK open for Tull and Terry Bozio did a drum solo through the roof, I thought wow he's going to upstage Barrie. He didn't. Barrie did one of the most entertaining solos I've ever heard (Not many people listen to em!) and actually bested him. He solidified his place in my mind as one of the best that night. Welcome to the Board march drummer Darin
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Post by Werbinox on Sept 27, 2013 4:04:19 GMT -5
Classy! Some stuff on there for me to check out
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 13:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by Morthoron on Feb 20, 2014 13:59:24 GMT -5
There is a reason John Bonham said that Barrie was "the greatest rock drummer England ever produced", and why folks like Plant and Page gravitated to him. Which makes it all the more irksome that Ian did not have at least Barriemore and Martin on the TAAB2 release. You can't tell me that non-entity with the metronome playing drums on TAAB2 could outdo Barlow. Fucking crock of shit!
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Post by TM on Feb 20, 2014 14:05:48 GMT -5
There is a reason John Bonham said that Barrie was "the greatest rock drummer England ever produced", and why folks like Plant and Page gravitated to him. Which makes it all the more irksome that Ian did not have at least Barriemore and Martin on the TAAB2 release. You can't tell me that non-entity with the metronome playing drums on TAAB2 could outdo Barlow. Fucking crock of shit! A terrible loss for the band no doubt. Barrie made a world of difference to the music.
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Post by Morthoron on Feb 20, 2014 14:39:04 GMT -5
There is a reason John Bonham said that Barrie was "the greatest rock drummer England ever produced", and why folks like Plant and Page gravitated to him. Which makes it all the more irksome that Ian did not have at least Barriemore and Martin on the TAAB2 release. You can't tell me that non-entity with the metronome playing drums on TAAB2 could outdo Barlow. Fucking crock of shit! A terrible loss for the band no doubt. Barrie made a world of difference to the music. Yes, I was discussing that elsewhere (in a forum that shan't be named, and as antagonistically as possible). If you listen to the last 7 minutes or so of Thick as a Brick (36:46 - 43.53) you have " Controlled madness, particularly Ian's flute, John Evan's keyboards and Barrie's superb drumming. Ian's recapitulation of the lyrics and David Palmer's short but sublime string orchestration highlight what makes Tull great and unlike any other rock band. Just how many time signature changes do you count in that last 7 minutes?" This is the reason why I am so down on TAAB2 (I haven't listened to it in over a year). I still believe it was a grave mistake that Ian made, connecting his solo album with a "group" effort that was a masterpiece of prog rock. Each of the individuals on TAAB were on fire, and they obviously fed off each other's riffs. Even D. Palmer's brief contribution was a splendid surprise. In comparison TAAB2 is sterile sounding: a band of competent musicians playing along at Ian's direction. Fucking squeezy thing.
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Post by TM on Feb 20, 2014 16:53:09 GMT -5
A terrible loss for the band no doubt. Barrie made a world of difference to the music. Yes, I was discussing that elsewhere (in a forum that shan't be named, and as antagonistically as possible). If you listen to the last 7 minutes or so of Thick as a Brick (36:46 - 43.53) you have " Controlled madness, particularly Ian's flute, John Evan's keyboards and Barrie's superb drumming. Ian's recapitulation of the lyrics and David Palmer's short but sublime string orchestration highlight what makes Tull great and unlike any other rock band. Just how many time signature changes do you count in that last 7 minutes?" This is the reason why I am so down on TAAB2 (I haven't listened to it in over a year). I still believe it was a grave mistake that Ian made, connecting his solo album with a "group" effort that was a masterpiece of prog rock. Each of the individuals on TAAB were on fire, and they obviously fed off each other's riffs. Even D. Palmer's brief contribution was a splendid surprise. In comparison TAAB2 is sterile sounding: a band of competent musicians playing along at Ian's direction. Fucking squeezy thing. I cannot agree with you more. The "end" of TAAB is fantastic. How great was it to be able isolate on these complex individual performances, and then sit back and enjoy them all. The instrumental during Hunting Girl is one I always thought to be pretty brilliant. As for TAAB2, sterile is a good description. It's strange how I like and dislike the album at the same time. The squeezy thing as you mentioned. The keyboard strings on Wooten Basset Town seem out of place, as do shaker which is mixed too high for my taste. I'm hoping the guys get to shine on Homo unlike TAAB2, which sounds "instructed" as you mentioned.
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Post by Morthoron on Feb 20, 2014 20:37:21 GMT -5
Yes, I was discussing that elsewhere (in a forum that shan't be named, and as antagonistically as possible). If you listen to the last 7 minutes or so of Thick as a Brick (36:46 - 43.53) you have " Controlled madness, particularly Ian's flute, John Evan's keyboards and Barrie's superb drumming. Ian's recapitulation of the lyrics and David Palmer's short but sublime string orchestration highlight what makes Tull great and unlike any other rock band. Just how many time signature changes do you count in that last 7 minutes?" This is the reason why I am so down on TAAB2 (I haven't listened to it in over a year). I still believe it was a grave mistake that Ian made, connecting his solo album with a "group" effort that was a masterpiece of prog rock. Each of the individuals on TAAB were on fire, and they obviously fed off each other's riffs. Even D. Palmer's brief contribution was a splendid surprise. In comparison TAAB2 is sterile sounding: a band of competent musicians playing along at Ian's direction. Fucking squeezy thing. I cannot agree with you more. The "end" of TAAB is fantastic. How great was it to be able isolate on these complex individual performances, and then sit back and enjoy them all. The instrumental during Hunting Girl is one I always thought to be pretty brilliant. As for TAAB2, sterile is a good description. It's strange how I like and dislike the album at the same time. The squeezy thing as you mentioned. The keyboard strings on Wooten Basset Town seem out of place, as do shaker which is mixed too high for my taste. I'm hoping the guys get to shine on Homo unlike TAAB2, which sounds "instructed" as you mentioned. As I said before, to me, TAAB2 sounded more akin to Rupi's Dance or The Secret Life of Birds than TAAB; not that that's a bad thing, it's a solo path Ian has taken the last 10 years or so, but minus Tull (and Martin, for that matter). Forget the few indulgent (FORCED) nods to the original, it bore little resemblance to that composition in feel, composition and wit (and TAAB2 was utterly humorless and melodramatic -- the forced wit of Give 'Til It Hurts did in fact hurt, embarrassingly so). But it was a good solo effort, in parts very good. And the argument that some had (ad nauseam, ad infinitum, ad trollum pestis) that TAAB2 was indeed "Jethro Tull" is utter nonsense. Listen to TAAB, that is not all Ian Anderson front and center throughout the entire album; it is, rather, a group of highly talented individuals blazing away in unison. Truthfully, the blistering drums of Barlow and the shrieking Hammond of Evan are the true virtuosic forces of that album, just as Martin Barre's guitar was the fulcrum of Aqualung. You can't say the same at all for TAAB2. So here's for a good deal more artistic freedom on Homo Erraticus.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 4:10:16 GMT -5
I cannot agree with you more. The "end" of TAAB is fantastic. How great was it to be able isolate on these complex individual performances, and then sit back and enjoy them all. The instrumental during Hunting Girl is one I always thought to be pretty brilliant. As for TAAB2, sterile is a good description. It's strange how I like and dislike the album at the same time. The squeezy thing as you mentioned. The keyboard strings on Wooten Basset Town seem out of place, as do shaker which is mixed too high for my taste. I'm hoping the guys get to shine on Homo unlike TAAB2, which sounds "instructed" as you mentioned. As I said before, to me, TAAB2 sounded more akin to Rupi's Dance or The Secret Life of Birds than TAAB; not that that's a bad thing, it's a solo path Ian has taken the last 10 years or so, but minus Tull (and Martin, for that matter). Forget the few indulgent (FORCED) nods to the original, it bore little resemblance to that composition in feel, composition and wit (and TAAB2 was utterly humorless and melodramatic -- the forced wit of Give 'Til It Hurts did in fact hurt, embarrassingly so). But it was a good solo effort, in parts very good. And the argument that some had (ad nauseam, ad infinitum, ad trollum pestis) that TAAB2 was indeed "Jethro Tull" is utter nonsense. Listen to TAAB, that is not all Ian Anderson front and center throughout the entire album; it is, rather, a group of highly talented individuals blazing away in unison. Truthfully, the blistering drums of Barlow and the shrieking Hammond of Evan are the true virtuosic forces of that album, just as Martin Barre's guitar was the fulcrum of Aqualung. You can't say the same at all for TAAB2. So here's for a good deal more artistic freedom on Homo Erraticus. First off I have to say, Greg, you know how often we agree on things.......on this you are right on. (I actually agree with most of you musical opinions) It's been a long time since I've gone on a rant about it without expecting some kind of lame assed argument. But it is more than apparent to most, that Ian used to present his chords and lyrics to the band and it was then down to them to add water so to speak. I think TAAB 2 suffered from Ian not getting out of the way, and even then I don't think the current band is as full of the necessary piss and vinegar of a band of school chums at the height of rocks most creative periods. So there's that. Again I've read all of what you've had to say about TAAB and I couldn't agree more (except that I'd drop the needle a little further back on the 2nd side for my favorite piece to work out to, "let me help you to pick up your dead" on to the end .) that is the fire that we're missing. I do have a limited amount of optimism for Homo Erraticus, as this "band" has been playing together very steadily for the last 2 years and though it doesn't breed creativity there have at least become a very cohesive unit by now. Ian's exposure to Steven Wilson and his particular brand of uber productive and ultra creative way of doing things also bodes well for this release.....but we'll see, pretty soon. Darin Cody
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