Sparty
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Post by Sparty on Nov 25, 2013 14:11:21 GMT -5
I suppose I'm unnecessarily attached to this notion of a prequel that I had penned in a prior post under a different thread; suffice it to say, the concept supporting and surrounding 'Erraticus' does head in that direction, in both its character development (evolution!) and historical if not archaeological antecedents. I quite like this concept, acknowledging as I am that I am evolving this interpretation more-or-less exclusively in my own mind, based only partly upon the few brush strokes Ian has so kindly provided. For me, in this state of inspired visioning, Erraticus' tag line could very well be "The Dance of Ages is playing still...!" At my age, or at any age for that matter, these moments are to be savored. I enjoy art that inspires this sort of talk. It is, for me, very "Tull-like" in its capacity to take the patron to where s/he wants, and in some cases needs to be. I hope -- and trust -- the musical composition and execution will be equally compelling. Cave painters of El Castillo to Picasso in the Park, thank you, Ian, for inspiring such vision, founded or not, among the savagely art-hungry. You do still see me even here. A prequel for the long ages...
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Heavy Horse
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Post by Heavy Horse on Nov 25, 2013 16:01:02 GMT -5
I suppose I'm unnecessarily attached to this notion of a prequel that I had penned in a prior post under a different thread; suffice it to say, the concept supporting and surrounding 'Erraticus' does head in that direction, in both its character development (evolution!) and historical if not archaeological antecedents. I quite like this concept, acknowledging as I am that I am evolving this interpretation more-or-less exclusively in my own mind, based only partly upon the few brush strokes Ian has so kindly provided. For me, in this state of inspired visioning, Erraticus' tag line could very well be "The Dance of Ages is playing still...!" At my age, or at any age for that matter, these moments are to be savored. I enjoy art that inspires this sort of talk. It is, for me, very "Tull-like" in its capacity to take the patron to where s/he wants, and in some cases needs to be. I hope -- and trust -- the musical composition and execution will be equally compelling. Cave painters of El Castillo to Picasso in the Park, thank you, Ian, for inspiring such vision, founded or not, among the savagely art-hungry. You do still see me even here. A prequel for the long ages... I'm glad it's Bostock writing the words and not Sparty, or the lyric sheet would have to be printed in a tiny font! It seems that IA uses our Gerald to compose his songs' lyrics whenever he's writing "out of character", and why not? I'm looking forward to this immensely - a prog-rock commentary on 5000 years of British social history? Count me in!
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Sparty
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Post by Sparty on Nov 25, 2013 18:09:01 GMT -5
I suppose I'm unnecessarily attached to this notion of a prequel that I had penned in a prior post under a different thread; suffice it to say, the concept supporting and surrounding 'Erraticus' does head in that direction, in both its character development (evolution!) and historical if not archaeological antecedents. I quite like this concept, acknowledging as I am that I am evolving this interpretation more-or-less exclusively in my own mind, based only partly upon the few brush strokes Ian has so kindly provided. For me, in this state of inspired visioning, Erraticus' tag line could very well be "The Dance of Ages is playing still...!" At my age, or at any age for that matter, these moments are to be savored. I enjoy art that inspires this sort of talk. It is, for me, very "Tull-like" in its capacity to take the patron to where s/he wants, and in some cases needs to be. I hope -- and trust -- the musical composition and execution will be equally compelling. Cave painters of El Castillo to Picasso in the Park, thank you, Ian, for inspiring such vision, founded or not, among the savagely art-hungry. You do still see me even here. A prequel for the long ages... I'm glad it's Bostock writing the words and not Sparty, or the lyric sheet would have to be printed in a tiny font! It seems that IA uses our Gerald to compose his songs' lyrics whenever he's writing "out of character", and why not? I'm looking forward to this immensely - a prog-rock commentary on 5000 years of British social history? Count me in! Touché! I plead chronically out-of-character, lagging and digressive old academic of the arts and humanities variety. A threatened species, to be sure; some might even say an evolutionary dead-end, at least state-side, as neo-con liberalism supplants liberal arts sentimentalities with exquisitely utilitarian vocational aspirations. Follow the money, as it were; then again, as you observe, I digress. But more to your point above, how could we aging dead-enders (and I assume I'm a sample population of 1) not look forward to a prog-rock commentary on 5,000 years of anything? Count me in indeed!
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Heavy Horse
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Post by Heavy Horse on Nov 25, 2013 18:34:50 GMT -5
I plead chronically out-of-character, lagging and digressive old academic of the arts and humanities variety. A threatened species, to be sure; some might even say an evolutionary dead-end, at least state-side, as neo-con liberalism supplants liberal arts sentimentalities with exquisitely utilitarian vocational aspirations. As to that: you and the rest of your "species", comprise a vital organic bulwark against the all-pervading quasi-religious mantra of the market obsessives, as far as I'm concerned! And it's not just happening state-side, unfortunatly. Typing that (and drinking Bruichladdich) has made me think about the basic concern for the human condition that IA displays in so many of his lyrics. "Crash Barrier Walzer" and "From a Deadbeat..." demonstrate a great deal of compassion. He's rarely disconnected from everyday life and, when he does go off on one, Mr. Bostock takes over!
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Post by Bassackwards on Nov 26, 2013 12:02:48 GMT -5
"Typing that (and drinking Bruichladdich) has made me think about the basic concern for the human condition that IA displays in so many of his lyrics. "Crash Barrier Walzer" and "From a Deadbeat..." demonstrate a great deal of compassion. He's rarely disconnected from everyday life and, when he does go off on one, Mr. Bostock takes over!"
Yes, Heavy, "Compassion"! For over 40 years that word comes to me whenever I think of Ian lyrics and tone of voice.
Now, lets not forget, Ian mentions not only ages of history, but also of fortelling of future events! Sounds charmingly mystical in a , forgive me, eccentric old school British way. As Bostock writes.
My burning question is will this have the original "Brick" form, a more symphonic continuous piece or a TAAB2 form of more connected stand alone songs.
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Post by Lucas on Nov 26, 2013 17:08:02 GMT -5
I think it'll be stand alone songs. I don't see Ian composing one long song anymore.
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Post by MHepple on Nov 26, 2013 17:43:51 GMT -5
I'd add the word "empathy" vs. sympathy (which I interpret as agreement.) Putting oneself in the others' shoes and writing from their, perhaps to the listener, an odd or new perspective. Or as a third party narrator. Not necessarily agreement, but noting the subject. Not significant to everyone, either. It's only Solitaire, after all.
Whaler's Dues, Beside Myself, Michael Collins, Jeffrey and Me come to mind, very top of my head. Aqualung does too. Many others.
There's no side taken, but a lyrical description painted. Let the listener read their own thoughts/biases/pre-conceptions into it. Stir it up. Open closed minds.
The very personal songs (most notably, At Last Forever) are first hand, but follow the same pattern.
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Heavy Horse
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Post by Heavy Horse on Nov 26, 2013 19:17:09 GMT -5
I believe he really does take sides!
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Post by Chea on Nov 27, 2013 3:19:54 GMT -5
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Sparty
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Post by Sparty on Nov 27, 2013 12:28:43 GMT -5
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Post by Heavy Horse on Nov 27, 2013 13:21:29 GMT -5
What a coincidence, I studied him for my degree!
It was a degree in aeronautical engineering, so I'm unsure as to why selected works of Erraticus were on the syllabus, but I passed with flying colours and am now a lawyer specialising in heart transplantation and apiculture so, thank you Atticus!
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Post by Bostock on Dec 16, 2013 10:36:52 GMT -5
Anything new about the recording of Homo Erraticus? I know that Ian and the band started recording the 10 of December.
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Post by Bostock on Dec 18, 2013 11:37:43 GMT -5
Fraser once wrote about Thick As A Brick 2, in this forum (at eat Hermione for lunch): "My theory is that all the Geralds are gay. Gerald the homeless is obviously gay, having had a relationship with a male teacher as a schoolboy (even though that could be put down as a case of abuse) but then having a bit a slap and tickle leading to civil partnership with a man as an adult. Gerald the military man sings about boys showering together during military training and reminisces about the old school song from the Pirates of Penzance. Gerald the chorister sings about being wondrous in the eyes of lesser boys and stiff white ruffs on cassock'd ranks. (I am not sure what that means, but it sounds to me like a stereotypically gay thing to say) So it makes sense for Gerald the ordinary man, if he is either in the closet or in denial about his sexuality, to be in a relationship with a sexually barren woman. But then Gerald the banker goes and eats Hermione for lunch. Still 4 out 5 ain't bad for a theory." So if Fraser is right, and I think he is... well... Homo Erraticus?? Is Ian finally coming out of the closet...? Just kidding... but he may want to explore the theme a little deeper... I mean, we've already had a prostate examination live on stage...
Okay... you may say that the idea comes from this well known sentence: Homo Erectus... (meaning upright man,) and that Ian has rewritten it to Homo Erraticus... (We may be upright... but we are really mostly confused, wandering to and fro...) Maybe it's just that, or maybe the Homo part runs a little deeper...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 14:40:31 GMT -5
Fraser once wrote about Thick As A Brick 2, in this forum (at eat Hermione for lunch): "My theory is that all the Geralds are gay. Gerald the homeless is obviously gay, having had a relationship with a male teacher as a schoolboy (even though that could be put down as a case of abuse) but then having a bit a slap and tickle leading to civil partnership with a man as an adult. Gerald the military man sings about boys showering together during military training and reminisces about the old school song from the Pirates of Penzance. Gerald the chorister sings about being wondrous in the eyes of lesser boys and stiff white ruffs on cassock'd ranks. (I am not sure what that means, but it sounds to me like a stereotypically gay thing to say) So it makes sense for Gerald the ordinary man, if he is either in the closet or in denial about his sexuality, to be in a relationship with a sexually barren woman. But then Gerald the banker goes and eats Hermione for lunch. Still 4 out 5 ain't bad for a theory." So if Fraser is right, and I think he is... well... Homo Erraticus?? Is Ian finally coming out of the closet...? Just kidding... but he may want to explore the theme a little deeper... I mean, we've already had a prostate examination live on stage... Okay... you may say that the idea comes from this well known sentence: Homo Erectus... (meaning upright man,) and that Ian has rewritten it to Homo Erraticus... (We may be upright... but we are really mostly confused, wandering to and fro...) Maybe it's just that, or maybe the Homo part runs a little deeper... I think…the "Homo" reference is the scientific one not the slang for Homosexual…you get the prize for being "the first on our block"…to go there lol. My own take on it, at this (too early to judge) stage is possibly Ian describing his life as a constantly moving (touring) species. Most of us "dig in", make a home and a living in one particular place. Ian wanders the globe to and fro (erratically) to ply his trade unlike the majority of us. A new and different species. But then again…..maybe your right!? Darin
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Post by Bwanabob on Dec 20, 2013 14:08:28 GMT -5
To my fellow Americans. I think there's another pun in the title lost to most of us. I would expect that in many UK pronunciations, Erraticus would sound like Eroticus to our ears - making it Homo-eroticus.
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Post by Bostock on Dec 21, 2013 3:01:53 GMT -5
Fraser once wrote about Thick As A Brick 2, in this forum (at eat Hermione for lunch): "My theory is that all the Geralds are gay. Gerald the homeless is obviously gay, having had a relationship with a male teacher as a schoolboy (even though that could be put down as a case of abuse) but then having a bit a slap and tickle leading to civil partnership with a man as an adult. Gerald the military man sings about boys showering together during military training and reminisces about the old school song from the Pirates of Penzance. Gerald the chorister sings about being wondrous in the eyes of lesser boys and stiff white ruffs on cassock'd ranks. (I am not sure what that means, but it sounds to me like a stereotypically gay thing to say) So it makes sense for Gerald the ordinary man, if he is either in the closet or in denial about his sexuality, to be in a relationship with a sexually barren woman. But then Gerald the banker goes and eats Hermione for lunch. Still 4 out 5 ain't bad for a theory." So if Fraser is right, and I think he is... well... Homo Erraticus?? Is Ian finally coming out of the closet...? Just kidding... but he may want to explore the theme a little deeper... I mean, we've already had a prostate examination live on stage... Okay... you may say that the idea comes from this well known sentence: Homo Erectus... (meaning upright man,) and that Ian has rewritten it to Homo Erraticus... (We may be upright... but we are really mostly confused, wandering to and fro...) Maybe it's just that, or maybe the Homo part runs a little deeper... I think…the "Homo" reference is the scientific one not the slang for Homosexual…you get the prize for being "the first on our block"…to go there lol. My own take on it, at this (too early to judge) stage is possibly Ian describing his life as a constantly moving (touring) species. Most of us "dig in", make a home and a living in one particular place. Ian wanders the globe to and fro (erratically) to ply his trade unlike the majority of us. A new and different species. But then again…..maybe your right!? Darin I think that it is the scientific one, and maybe also the Homosexual as well... but at this (too early to judge) stage... well... who knows, other than Ian Anderson...??
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Post by Bostock on Dec 21, 2013 3:26:25 GMT -5
To my fellow Americans. I think there's another pun in the title lost to most of us. I would expect that in many UK pronunciations, Erraticus would sound like Eroticus to our ears - making it Homo-eroticus. Interesting observation...
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Post by Bostock on Dec 24, 2013 10:14:38 GMT -5
And here's a little christmas song from good old Bob Dylan!
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Post by Bostock on Dec 24, 2013 11:44:33 GMT -5
Greg Lake, Florian Opahle and Ian Anderson... "I believe in Father Christmas."
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Post by GuyM on Jan 10, 2014 12:59:27 GMT -5
I am of course anxious (as always) to hear what Ian will come up with for the new album but would be a bit more excited if I did not have the sneaking feeling that the concept is remarkably like one that I have already used (twice)...n'mind eh?
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Post by Bostock on Jan 10, 2014 13:07:17 GMT -5
I am of course anxious (as always) to hear what Ian will come up with for the new album but would be a bit more excited if I did not have the sneaking feeling that the concept is remarkably like one that I have already used (twice)...n'mind eh? We'll just have to wait and see... Let's hope for the best! I think that it's going to be fabulous!
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Post by Preston Platform on Jan 10, 2014 14:31:31 GMT -5
I am of course anxious (as always) to hear what Ian will come up with for the new album but would be a bit more excited if I did not have the sneaking feeling that the concept is remarkably like one that I have already used (twice)...n'mind eh? Hi Guy , I thought of your work when I heard about Ian's latest project..you are of course referring to your excellent Ansers Tree and Margarets Children releases
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Post by TM on Jan 13, 2014 10:22:53 GMT -5
“I’m like a supermarket shelf, I’m forced to think of different brand names. After all these years, the Jethro Tull brand does suggest a can of Heinz beans – it’s something people rely on and know what they are going to get when they open the packet. You can’t sneak in a bit of curry powder without putting folks out. Read more: 2014's must sees - Homo Erraticus
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 15:05:19 GMT -5
“I’m like a supermarket shelf, I’m forced to think of different brand names. After all these years, the Jethro Tull brand does suggest a can of Heinz beans – it’s something people rely on and know what they are going to get when they open the packet. You can’t sneak in a bit of curry powder without putting folks out. Blimey, I recall calling Tull a 'brand' sometime back in a previous existance elsewhere and getting slagged off for it, I suppose it'll be OK now Ian calls it a 'brand' Maybe the new name should be "The Ian Anderson Brand".
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