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Post by Nonfatman on May 1, 2014 14:10:00 GMT -5
Jeff, consider it dialed down and thanks for your sensible comments on HE, clearly you have better hearing than senile old Morthoron. I'll be seeing Mr. Anderson this weekend and I can't fucking wait!. Morth, please don't bother showing up, trust me, you won't like it. I understand the arguments made on both sides of the H.E. debate, and I respect both your opinion and Greg's. Both of you guys are probably a lot more knowledgable about music than I am. Personally I really like most of the new album, and I think on most songs Ian's singing is pretty good. I think the band is excellent too, except for certain solos by Florian that are very generic (like the one he does on After These Wars, which is probably my least favorite track on the album) and although I think Scott is a good drummer, his drums or drum kit lack heft. I think the album would have been even better with beefier drums. Lyrically, however, I think most of the album is a train wreck, for various reasons, and they are not up to Ian's standards. I don't particularly like brand names or names of TV shows, or historical characters strung together in a list. Theres a lot of that on this album, and to me it is not good songwriting. I also do not like words that do not fit the meter of the music, or multisyllabic rhymes ala Rush, and there is a lot of those kinds of thing on this album. I don't think the lyrics do that great a job of conveying Ian's concept, which is a serious and compelling one, but the lyrics don't really do justice to it. So, for me, this is a very good album musically and conceptually, but lyrically it is a real let down. It's okay to argue passionately, and even to have a heated argument, but when it gets into namecalling then it's a turnoff. You and I have been there in earlier internet days, and have been able to repair our relationship despite our disagreements. I've gone down that path with Greg too (and about the same issue, so there's something you both would agree on!) and we've gone at it pretty good, but have been able to get past it and remain friends, although we both realize we can never, ever discuss international politics again. One thing you do have to understand, though, is his curmudgeonliness (curmudgeoniosity?) Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on May 1, 2014 14:16:41 GMT -5
Morthorn, whatever! Jeff, consider it dialed down and thanks for your sensible comments on HE, clearly you have better hearing than senile old Morthorn. Hey, how about a nice cup of shut the fuck up, Mix. Jeff is allowed his opinion about the album. You are allowed your opinion about the album. But I am allowed my opinion about the album as well. What is not welcome is when some ass like yourself decides to attack someone else's opinion about the album. Greg, I think on that one Mix was just joking. I agree with your point about free speech, obviously, you and everyone else here know how strongly I feel about that. Nobody should be attacked with namecalling because they have a different viewpoint, especially a well-considered one, as your opinions always are. C'mon guys, how about making up? Jeff
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Post by TM on May 1, 2014 14:36:44 GMT -5
Mix, you and I have pretty much seen eye to eye on Tull for years. We both have been critical of Ian at times, and that makes me very surprised to see your intolerance of others who don't share your views? So my question is, where did Mix go?
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Post by Oldghost on May 1, 2014 15:09:02 GMT -5
You know what, guys.....this album is already legendary Why...you may ask. I don't remember any other Tull/IA release which would cause such a storm and a string of fights among the members of the forum...this certainly means something and this alone makes it legendary, but this will be more clearly seen in the future. My opinion?...While H.E. is certainly not a revolution in Ian's music, it is still better than I could have reasonably hoped for. For me there's very little to skip. Even lesser material on it is somehow tolerable at least, and after many hours of listening I came to the firm conclusion that this is better than TAAB2 beyond any doubt and I recognize this as a progress...but I will still avoid making any comparison with 70's material (Ian is just about to hit 67 for Christ's sake). So just relax guys...there's no reason to fight about it. Any opinion should be equaly respected. Those of us who appreciate H.E. will continue to enjoy it, those others may easily enjoy listening to something else...Tull's/IA's catalogue is pretty huge, ya know ....so simple is that! My rating : B -
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Post by TM on May 1, 2014 15:26:07 GMT -5
You know what, guys.....this album is already legendary Why...you may ask. I don't remember any other Tull/IA release which would cause such a storm and a string of fights among the members of the forum...this certainly means something and this alone makes it legendary, but this will be more clearly seen in the future. My opinion?... While H.E. is certainly not a revolution in music, it is still better than I could have reasonably hoped for. For me there's very little to skip. Even lesser material on it is somehow tolerable at least and after many hours of listening I came to the firm conclusion that this is better than TAAB2 beyond any doubt and I recognize this as a progress...but I will still avoid making any comparison with 70's material (Ian is just about to hit 67 for Christ's sake). So just relax guys...there's no reason to fight about it. Any opinion should be equaly respected. Those of us who appreciate H.E. will continue to enjoy it, those others may easily enjoy listening to something else...Tull's/IA's catalogue is pretty huge, ya know ....so simple is that! My rating : B - Well said.
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Post by Non Rabbit on May 1, 2014 15:36:29 GMT -5
but I will still avoid making any comparison with 70's material (Ian is just about to hit 67 for Christ's sake). ! Correct. Tull were a 70's early 80's band at their peak and that's not yesterday's baking. To be honest every album since MITG has left me grasping for something. Under Wraps, Rock Island and Catfish Rising left me grasping for anything. The fact that Ian Anderson can still write music worth listening to and relevant today is a huge bonus. But HE is more than a token. It's a good record, only the shouty part get on my nerves. When played loud the album has considerable merit. The band are solid musicians although I think my live days are gone with any IA line-up. Who else in his peer group are producing credible music? Just enjoy the album without comparisons; there is some good stuff in there.
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Post by TM on May 1, 2014 16:38:45 GMT -5
but I will still avoid making any comparison with 70's material (Ian is just about to hit 67 for Christ's sake). ! Correct. Tull were a 70's early 80's band at their peak and that's not yesterday's baking. To be honest every album since MITG has left me grasping for something. Under Wraps, Rock Island and Catfish Rising left me grasping for anything. The fact that Ian Anderson can still write music worth listening to and relevant today is a huge bonus. But HE is more than a token. It's a good record, only the shouty part get on my nerves. When played loud the album has considerable merit. The band are solid musicians although I think my live days are gone with any IA line-up. Who else in his peer group are producing credible music? Just enjoy the album without comparisons; there is some good stuff in there. In fairness though, there are so many borrowed ideas from past Tull music that just jumped right out at us. It was a bit difficult to get past all the references to past music combined with the repeated themes of this record.
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Post by Morthoron on May 1, 2014 17:03:16 GMT -5
Correct. Tull were a 70's early 80's band at their peak and that's not yesterday's baking. To be honest every album since MITG has left me grasping for something. Under Wraps, Rock Island and Catfish Rising left me grasping for anything. The fact that Ian Anderson can still write music worth listening to and relevant today is a huge bonus. But HE is more than a token. It's a good record, only the shouty part get on my nerves. When played loud the album has considerable merit. The band are solid musicians although I think my live days are gone with any IA line-up. Who else in his peer group are producing credible music? Just enjoy the album without comparisons; there is some good stuff in there. In fairness though, there are so many borrowed ideas from past Tull music that just jumped right out at us. It was a bit difficult to get past all the references to past music combined with the repeated themes of this record. I listened again today. Nope, no change from my original position. I think the main problem is that Ian has anchored himself to certain cadences and sound levels due to his voice (thus the seeming repetition). The annoying metronome drumming that seems to tick through many songs (even better songs like Puer Ferox, but really annoying in Meliora Sequamur), is noticeable because the songs drag along with Ian's forced syllabification. It's like the whole album has been slowed down a notch or two. Wish I had my old turntable and could speed it up a bit to hear the difference.
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Post by Non Rabbit on May 1, 2014 17:19:36 GMT -5
[/quote]In fairness though, there are so many borrowed ideas from past Tull music that just jumped right out at us. It was a bit difficult to get past all the references to past music combined with the repeated themes of this record. [/quote]
Yes I agree, but the borrowed stuff takes me back to the more heady days of the past. Surely not a bad thing.
HE is not going to be on my list of top albums, I never expected it to be, but there seems to be a flow in the music that's been missing for quite some time (Christmas Album anyone?)
While I would have loved Tull members to have had a thrash at the last two albums perhaps the irony is that Ian Anderson might not have had the freedom to write them under the band name. Just a thought
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Post by Mothfairy on May 1, 2014 17:23:40 GMT -5
Uh...wow. Well here's yet another moderator who's not all that impressed with the new album, but that doesn't mean I'm going to quit the board and throw away all my other albums.
It's not that I really strongly dislike the album, but listening to it I just thought, "Well...this is good 'old person' music." We'll see if any of it grows on me, but so far it really hasn't. I can't imagine someone else's opinion mattering or mine mattering to them....or feeling the need to join a whole other board because of it?
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Post by TM on May 1, 2014 22:54:28 GMT -5
Uh...wow. Well here's yet another moderator who's not all that impressed with the new album, but that doesn't mean I'm going to quit the board and throw away all my other albums. It's not that I really strongly dislike the album, but listening to it I just thought, "Well...this is good 'old person' music." We'll see if any of it grows on me, but so far it really hasn't. I can't imagine someone else's opinion mattering or mine mattering to them....or feeling the need to join a whole other board because of it? That's what I said. No offense to any of you, but I really don't care if you don't like what I like about Ian and Tull. If I have a connection with someone that's cool, but I can't ever imagine getting upset over one of you not appreciating something I like. I could understand a feeling of disappointment maybe, but I sense stronger feelings here. What's strange though is everyone I speak to privately have similar feelings to mine.
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Post by Mothfairy on May 2, 2014 0:24:54 GMT -5
Uh...wow. Well here's yet another moderator who's not all that impressed with the new album, but that doesn't mean I'm going to quit the board and throw away all my other albums. It's not that I really strongly dislike the album, but listening to it I just thought, "Well...this is good 'old person' music." We'll see if any of it grows on me, but so far it really hasn't. I can't imagine someone else's opinion mattering or mine mattering to them....or feeling the need to join a whole other board because of it? That's what I said. No offense to any of you, but I really don't care if you don't like what I like about Ian and Tull. If I have a connection with someone that's cool, but I can't ever imagine getting upset over one of you not appreciating something I like. I could understand a feeling of disappointment maybe, but I sense stronger feelings here. What's strange though is everyone I speak to privately have similar feelings to mine. Yeah, I don't understand why we have to like the same things. I know some people thought I was freakish for listening to Dot Com some others that aren't as popular with some of you...but I don't care...I like it better that way, I don't want you all liking the same thing I do. I like being different. Haha. No but really, people are taking it too seriously.
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Post by Michael Crowe on May 2, 2014 0:33:03 GMT -5
We need a new universal ratings system here. The scale of one to ten needs calibration, four stars not detailed enough, and thumbs up or down doesn't leave enough gray area. I rather like the highschool grading system of A = Excellent, B = Good, C = Average, D = Poor, and F = Failure. but that's not exacting enough either. I wanted to give HE a B minus but a couple of tracks are just week enough to suggest a C plus. So it hangs in limbo between C and B and limbo is no place to hang anything, much less a Tull album under another name. Perhaps if some nano tweeks could exist between the letters, that would equilize that area between say a C plus and the B minus without being either - something nuetral, neither less nor more. That new diminsion would need a name but I'm our of gas right now. I think I gave it a C. Last night I listened with a medium bodied (cab) and I must say that in that rather relaxed state I found it had some nice moments. Ian sings nice and softly I suppose. It's Mellow Tull. It's what I guess what we should expect from someone who's 66. I was expecting rock and roll on this record but this is more like 'easy-listening prog', and I'm ok with that now. How about a little light music, to chase it all away? I thought somebody might be driven to drink over this. That's one way to get a new perspective. I've decided on the B minus. There are three songs I skip. I went into this with an open mind from the beginning without a need to compare it to anything from the back catalog. IA's songwriting, at least musically, is well intact here. There is some depth in the compositions - enough to warrent the prog label anyway - and if I had never heard Ian sing before I could accept this as a decent vocal perfomance. But here's another thing. I'm 61 now ( oh the humanity !!!! ....... ) and sometimes I'm thinking I might want to go easy musically - you know, take the easy way and just perform twelve bar blues down at the club and a few festivals instead of the more complex fusion stuff we do at times, which requires elbow grease and a memory (the latter a challenge). Being sixty-whatever-Ian-is and still willing to write and perform challenging music at a high level on several very different instruments whilst struggling to sing a novel in key at the same time around the world on a nightly basis is admirable. I mean that's tough - very tough, so that's enough respect to boost the C plus to B minus. That is to say, on it's own, here in 2014, comparing HE only to what else is floating around these days, it's a pretty strong effort - and compared to other prog works by such artist as Dream Theater, Umphrey's McGee, Porcupine Tree, etc., HE holds it's own due to a very strong signature - it sounds like Tull. I'm of the folkie Tull camp with the mandos, bouzoukis, pipes and whistles and silly lyrics about goblins, but I understand and accept that this album doesn't require those elements and that's not where IA is at today. It's also a concept piece so there has to be a thread running through it with repeated themes and as such, all the songs are vital to the concept thus no fillers. I don't care for tracks 3, 4 and the spoken thing before the last one, but they belong and so it is. So that's my story and I'm sticking with it. There are flaws of course, and this isn't SFTW or APP, but as a nice little gift that happened to drop in unexpectedly into an otherwise boring spring (musically), it's a bit of a gem. I just can't imagine how this innocent little thing would cause such a rutcuss 'round here. It's only an album.
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Post by TM on May 2, 2014 10:58:43 GMT -5
I think I gave it a C. Last night I listened with a medium bodied (cab) and I must say that in that rather relaxed state I found it had some nice moments. Ian sings nice and softly I suppose. It's Mellow Tull. It's what I guess what we should expect from someone who's 66. I was expecting rock and roll on this record but this is more like 'easy-listening prog', and I'm ok with that now. How about a little light music, to chase it all away? I thought somebody might be driven to drink over this. That's one way to get a new perspective. I've decided on the B minus. There are three songs I skip. I went into this with an open mind from the beginning without a need to compare it to anything from the back catalog. IA's songwriting, at least musically, is well intact here. There is some depth in the compositions - enough to warrent the prog label anyway - and if I had never heard Ian sing before I could accept this as a decent vocal perfomance. But here's another thing. I'm 61 now ( oh the humanity !!!! ....... ) and sometimes I'm thinking I might want to go easy musically - you know, take the easy way and just perform twelve bar blues down at the club and a few festivals instead of the more complex fusion stuff we do at times, which requires elbow grease and a memory (the latter a challenge). Being sixty-whatever-Ian-is and still willing to write and perform challenging music at a high level on several very different instruments whilst struggling to sing a novel in key at the same time around the world on a nightly basis is admirable. I mean that's tough - very tough, so that's enough respect to boost the C plus to B minus. That is to say, on it's own, here in 2014, comparing HE only to what else is floating around these days, it's a pretty strong effort - and compared to other prog works by such artist as Dream Theater, Umphrey's McGee, Porcupine Tree, etc., HE holds it's own due to a very strong signature - it sounds like Tull. I'm of the folkie Tull camp with the mandos, bouzoukis, pipes and whistles and silly lyrics about goblins, but I understand and accept that this album doesn't require those elements and that's not where IA is at today. It's also a concept piece so there has to be a thread running through it with repeated themes and as such, all the songs are vital to the concept thus no fillers. I don't care for tracks 3, 4 and the spoken thing before the last one, but they belong and so it is. So that's my story and I'm sticking with it. There are flaws of course, and this isn't SFTW or APP, but as a nice little gift that happened to drop in unexpectedly into an otherwise boring spring (musically), it's a bit of a gem. I just can't imagine how this innocent little thing would cause such a rutcuss 'round here. It's only an album. Funny how you don't like 3 & 4 and yet I do (bastard!). While I'm not crazy about the rapping part of Enter The Uninvited, I love Ian's vocals and the band's sound on 1:50. That's one of the most enjoyable parts of the album for me. Passionate fans we Tull fans. Stay tuned for the announcement of the official Jethro Tull Board Rumble!
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Post by Oldghost on May 2, 2014 16:28:45 GMT -5
I thought somebody might be driven to drink over this. That's one way to get a new perspective. I've decided on the B minus. There are three songs I skip. I went into this with an open mind from the beginning without a need to compare it to anything from the back catalog. IA's songwriting, at least musically, is well intact here. There is some depth in the compositions - enough to warrent the prog label anyway - and if I had never heard Ian sing before I could accept this as a decent vocal perfomance. But here's another thing. I'm 61 now ( oh the humanity !!!! ....... ) and sometimes I'm thinking I might want to go easy musically - you know, take the easy way and just perform twelve bar blues down at the club and a few festivals instead of the more complex fusion stuff we do at times, which requires elbow grease and a memory (the latter a challenge). Being sixty-whatever-Ian-is and still willing to write and perform challenging music at a high level on several very different instruments whilst struggling to sing a novel in key at the same time around the world on a nightly basis is admirable. I mean that's tough - very tough, so that's enough respect to boost the C plus to B minus. That is to say, on it's own, here in 2014, comparing HE only to what else is floating around these days, it's a pretty strong effort - and compared to other prog works by such artist as Dream Theater, Umphrey's McGee, Porcupine Tree, etc., HE holds it's own due to a very strong signature - it sounds like Tull. I'm of the folkie Tull camp with the mandos, bouzoukis, pipes and whistles and silly lyrics about goblins, but I understand and accept that this album doesn't require those elements and that's not where IA is at today. It's also a concept piece so there has to be a thread running through it with repeated themes and as such, all the songs are vital to the concept thus no fillers. I don't care for tracks 3, 4 and the spoken thing before the last one, but they belong and so it is. So that's my story and I'm sticking with it. There are flaws of course, and this isn't SFTW or APP, but as a nice little gift that happened to drop in unexpectedly into an otherwise boring spring (musically), it's a bit of a gem. I just can't imagine how this innocent little thing would cause such a rutcuss 'round here. It's only an album. Funny how you don't like 3 & 4 and yet I do (bastard!). While I'm not crazy about the rapping part of Enter The Uninvited, I love Ian's vocals and the band's sound on 1:50. That's one of the most enjoyable parts of the album for me. Passionate fans we Tull fans. Stay tuned for the announcement of the official Jethro Tull Board Rumble! Haha...Paul...what a funny coincidence! 1:50 is exactly my favourite bit on "ETU" !
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Post by TM on May 2, 2014 19:26:45 GMT -5
Funny how you don't like 3 & 4 and yet I do (bastard!). While I'm not crazy about the rapping part of Enter The Uninvited, I love Ian's vocals and the band's sound on 1:50. That's one of the most enjoyable parts of the album for me. Passionate fans we Tull fans. Stay tuned for the announcement of the official Jethro Tull Board Rumble! Haha...Paul...what a funny coincidence! 1:50 is exactly my favourite bit on "ETU" ! Hey Leon, it's good to know two of us have good taste!
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Post by Michael Crowe on May 3, 2014 1:15:10 GMT -5
I thought somebody might be driven to drink over this. That's one way to get a new perspective. I've decided on the B minus. There are three songs I skip. I went into this with an open mind from the beginning without a need to compare it to anything from the back catalog. IA's songwriting, at least musically, is well intact here. There is some depth in the compositions - enough to warrent the prog label anyway - and if I had never heard Ian sing before I could accept this as a decent vocal perfomance. But here's another thing. I'm 61 now ( oh the humanity !!!! ....... ) and sometimes I'm thinking I might want to go easy musically - you know, take the easy way and just perform twelve bar blues down at the club and a few festivals instead of the more complex fusion stuff we do at times, which requires elbow grease and a memory (the latter a challenge). Being sixty-whatever-Ian-is and still willing to write and perform challenging music at a high level on several very different instruments whilst struggling to sing a novel in key at the same time around the world on a nightly basis is admirable. I mean that's tough - very tough, so that's enough respect to boost the C plus to B minus. That is to say, on it's own, here in 2014, comparing HE only to what else is floating around these days, it's a pretty strong effort - and compared to other prog works by such artist as Dream Theater, Umphrey's McGee, Porcupine Tree, etc., HE holds it's own due to a very strong signature - it sounds like Tull. I'm of the folkie Tull camp with the mandos, bouzoukis, pipes and whistles and silly lyrics about goblins, but I understand and accept that this album doesn't require those elements and that's not where IA is at today. It's also a concept piece so there has to be a thread running through it with repeated themes and as such, all the songs are vital to the concept thus no fillers. I don't care for tracks 3, 4 and the spoken thing before the last one, but they belong and so it is. So that's my story and I'm sticking with it. There are flaws of course, and this isn't SFTW or APP, but as a nice little gift that happened to drop in unexpectedly into an otherwise boring spring (musically), it's a bit of a gem. I just can't imagine how this innocent little thing would cause such a rutcuss 'round here. It's only an album. Funny how you don't like 3 & 4 and yet I do (bastard!). While I'm not crazy about the rapping part of Enter The Uninvited, I love Ian's vocals and the band's sound on 1:50. That's one of the most enjoyable parts of the album for me. Passionate fans we Tull fans. Stay tuned for the announcement of the official Jethro Tull Board Rumble! Track 4 is a favorite here it seems but it sounds pretentious to me. The music is lazy and the lyrics ... well, IA visiting that tired and worn religious theme again. I'm just way past that. Nothing here to make me think, and I'm not buying into the silly historical context of it either. Pass. Track 3 is okay for two listens then it becomes almost rap which can be worse than the real thing. It's okay to take a punch once, even twice, but if I hear that song again I'm going to punch back. Spray paint graffiti lyrics. Too much Pepsi Cola out the can. Rumble? Neither side here is worth fighting for, so I'll referee. I take bribes if anyone is interested. Will take VISA and Mastercard. American Express and cash not accepted.
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Post by TM on May 3, 2014 9:46:46 GMT -5
Funny how you don't like 3 & 4 and yet I do (bastard!). While I'm not crazy about the rapping part of Enter The Uninvited, I love Ian's vocals and the band's sound on 1:50. That's one of the most enjoyable parts of the album for me. Passionate fans we Tull fans. Stay tuned for the announcement of the official Jethro Tull Board Rumble! Track 4 is a favorite here it seems but it sounds pretentious to me. The music is lazy and the lyrics ... well, IA visiting that tired and worn religious theme again. I'm just way past that. Nothing here to make me think, and I'm not buying into the silly historical context of it either. Pass. Track 3 is okay for two listens then it becomes almost rap which can be worse than the real thing. It's okay to take a punch once, even twice, but if I hear that song again I'm going to punch back. Spray paint graffiti lyrics. Too much Pepsi Cola out the can. Rumble? Neither side here is worth fighting for, so I'll referee. I take bribes if anyone is interested. Will take VISA and Mastercard. American Express and cash not accepted. 4 took me a while to get into simply because it was way too plodding, but I'm into the subject matter and I enjoy hearing Ian's take on Christ yet again. The rap aspect I see more as a lazy man's Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire" but that's a low point I can deal with. Some songs I skip. This one I don't.
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Post by Michael Crowe on May 3, 2014 14:16:10 GMT -5
Track 4 is a favorite here it seems but it sounds pretentious to me. The music is lazy and the lyrics ... well, IA visiting that tired and worn religious theme again. I'm just way past that. Nothing here to make me think, and I'm not buying into the silly historical context of it either. Pass. Track 3 is okay for two listens then it becomes almost rap which can be worse than the real thing. It's okay to take a punch once, even twice, but if I hear that song again I'm going to punch back. Spray paint graffiti lyrics. Too much Pepsi Cola out the can. Rumble? Neither side here is worth fighting for, so I'll referee. I take bribes if anyone is interested. Will take VISA and Mastercard. American Express and cash not accepted. 4 took me a while to get into simply because it was way too plodding, but I'm into the subject matter and I enjoy hearing Ian's take on Christ yet again. The rap aspect I see more as a lazy man's Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire" but that's a low point I can deal with. Some songs I skip. This one I don't. Interesting that you would still find IA's take on Christianity interesting after all these years. Fair enough, I just don't find Deist views very interesting anymore I guess. Irritating actually that you would like this song. Delete my account at once! Ah, that's the one - the Billy Joel song. I knew I had heard that slant before somewhere and that's it. I bet if you skipped that song next time you wouldn't miss it though. I do like the intensity of that one I admit, and the drums. Maybe I'll give it one more spin on your account.
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Post by Willie on May 3, 2014 16:24:05 GMT -5
4 took me a while to get into simply because it was way too plodding, but I'm into the subject matter and I enjoy hearing Ian's take on Christ yet again. The rap aspect I see more as a lazy man's Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire" but that's a low point I can deal with. Some songs I skip. This one I don't. Interesting that you would still find IA's take on Christianity interesting after all these years. Fair enough, I just don't find Deist views very interesting anymore I guess. Irritating actually that you would like this song. Delete my account at once! Ah, that's the one - the Billy Joel song. I knew I had heard that slant before somewhere and that's it. I bet if you skipped that song next time you wouldn't miss it though. I do like the intensity of that one I admit, and the drums. Maybe I'll give it one more spin on your account. I really like the vocal lines on Enter The Uninvited that don't sound like Billy Joel's Mango. For example, the singing from 1:10 reminds me of the vocal melody that kicks off Paradise Steakhouse. Great energy.
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Post by TM on May 3, 2014 18:59:35 GMT -5
Interesting that you would still find IA's take on Christianity interesting after all these years. Fair enough, I just don't find Deist views very interesting anymore I guess. Irritating actually that you would like this song. Delete my account at once! Ah, that's the one - the Billy Joel song. I knew I had heard that slant before somewhere and that's it. I bet if you skipped that song next time you wouldn't miss it though. I do like the intensity of that one I admit, and the drums. Maybe I'll give it one more spin on your account. I really like the vocal lines on Enter The Uninvited that don't sound like Billy Joel's Mango. For example, the singing from 1:10 reminds me of the vocal melody that kicks off Paradise Steakhouse. Great energy. You have to admit there is similarity in the style, no?
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Post by Willie on May 3, 2014 19:37:02 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that main part sounds like Hot Mango and We Didn't Start the Fire. I was talking about the other part in the song. That Vocal line I quite like.
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Post by TM on May 4, 2014 10:03:31 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that main part sounds like Hot Mango and We Didn't Start the Fire. I was talking about the other part in the song. That Vocal line I quite like. Yes, that has a vocal feel of I want to say the Warchild era.
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Post by Geoff CB on May 5, 2014 6:53:36 GMT -5
I think I might get the vinyl out and listen to a couple of tracks. I've listened to the mp3 in the car (came with vinyl), but I've only listened to the 5.1 once.
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Post by Geoff CB on May 5, 2014 7:19:12 GMT -5
I just listened to side 1 (tracks 1-4) and the sound of that vinyl just blew me away! Better sound than the DVD, and that's with a high end player. Ian's vocals just transcend the music. What a great mix, I'm just so glad I got the vinyl.
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