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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 10, 2009 16:22:14 GMT -5
Pepsi-Cola, Nikon, Datsun or Toyota.....how many brand names can you think of that appear in Tull or IA lyrics? I know there are a lot. Do you suppose Ian gets royalties every time he mentions a product? Jeff
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Post by TM on Sept 10, 2009 19:55:41 GMT -5
Harley Davidson, Triumph and Aqualung come to mind.
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 11, 2009 9:48:32 GMT -5
Harley Davidson, Triumph and Aqualung come to mind. Yes, and as for motorcycles, let's not forget Suzuki. And, with sodas, there's not only Pepsi Cola, but also Coke (and Bacardi, which is a brand of rum, I think.) Then there are magazines and publications: Time, Rolling Stone, Evening Standard with Playboy hidden behind. There are many more. Jeff
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Post by TM on Sept 11, 2009 10:10:39 GMT -5
Harley Davidson, Triumph and Aqualung come to mind. Yes, and as for motorcycles, let's not forget Suzuki. And, with sodas, there's not only Pepsi Cola, but also Coke (and Bacardi, which is a brand of rum, I think.) Then there are magazines and publications: Time, Rolling Stone, Evening Standard with Playboy hidden behind. There are many more. Jeff Ah, very good Jeff. I used to be very good at recollecting things like that. And I still should according to the "Buffalo theory." "Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 12, 2009 17:18:51 GMT -5
Yes, and as for motorcycles, let's not forget Suzuki. And, with sodas, there's not only Pepsi Cola, but also Coke (and Bacardi, which is a brand of rum, I think.) Then there are magazines and publications: Time, Rolling Stone, Evening Standard with Playboy hidden behind. There are many more. Jeff Ah, very good Jeff. I used to be very good at recollecting things like that. And I still should according to the "Buffalo theory." "Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers." LOL, such a typical Cliff explanation, but it's kind of true, isn't it? It's not that I recall them so quickly, I just spend inordinate mounts of time trying to think of examples. And then, because I am so obsessive, I consult the lyric book for more. Like Piaget, Starbucks, Rolls Royce, Spitfire, CNN, and various gun manufacturers, Stoner, Browning and Kalishnokov. I probably missed a few others, but one thing I noticed. Most of them are in later Tull and IA works. Jeff
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Post by TM on Sept 12, 2009 23:17:19 GMT -5
I hate to only post one, but it just came to mind: Gucci.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2009 9:53:34 GMT -5
WHAT! No-ones mentioned Wimpy yet?
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Post by bobo the monkey on Sept 14, 2009 23:30:24 GMT -5
The Boy Scout Manual is certainly a copyrighted product...right wing propaganda, if you ask me!
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 15, 2009 15:41:13 GMT -5
WHAT! No-ones mentioned Wimpy yet? It's funny, all the years I've been listening to Aqualung, I always thought that was wimpy bar, small w, small b, and I thought it was like a tavern....I guess because I connected the lyrics in my mind to the next stanza, about Cousin Jacks, which is that kind of a bar. I never realized it was Wimpy, as in the hamburger chain in London, even though I have seen those restaurants while I was there. But why would he leave her in a hamburger joint? I swear I always thought they went to a bar for a drink after the cinema, and that's when he left her to go to another bar, one that was not so wimpy. Jeff
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 12:04:17 GMT -5
WHAT! No-ones mentioned Wimpy yet? It's funny, all the years I've been listening to Aqualung, I always thought that was wimpy bar, small w, small b, and I thought it was like a tavern....I guess because I connected the lyrics in my mind to the next stanza, about Cousin Jacks, which is that kind of a bar. I never realized it was Wimpy, as in the hamburger chain in London, even though I have seen those restaurants while I was there. But why would he leave her in a hamburger joint? I swear I always thought they went to a bar for a drink after the cinema, and that's when he left her to go to another bar, one that was not so wimpy. Jeff Jeff, Back in the 60's and 70's our licensing laws were prtty tight, our pubs and bars used to shut [religously] at 11.00 pm Monday to saturday and 10.30pm on Sundays. frequentley there wasn't many palces to go in the evening post-cinema other than a Wimpy Bar. I've never heard of Cousin Jack's as a bar - Is that an American chain?
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 18, 2009 12:15:00 GMT -5
It's funny, all the years I've been listening to Aqualung, I always thought that was wimpy bar, small w, small b, and I thought it was like a tavern....I guess because I connected the lyrics in my mind to the next stanza, about Cousin Jacks, which is that kind of a bar. I never realized it was Wimpy, as in the hamburger chain in London, even though I have seen those restaurants while I was there. But why would he leave her in a hamburger joint? I swear I always thought they went to a bar for a drink after the cinema, and that's when he left her to go to another bar, one that was not so wimpy. Jeff Jeff, Back in the 60's and 70's our licensing laws were prtty tight, our pubs and bars used to shut [religously] at 11.00 pm Monday to saturday and 10.30pm on Sundays. frequentley there wasn't many palces to go in the evening post-cinema other than a Wimpy Bar. I've never heard of Cousin Jack's as a bar - Is that an American chain? Hey, Pat, thanks for the explanation. Some of this British stuff would never be known to us Americans, and I'm sure there's other lyrics in Tull that I haven't fully understood for similar reasons. As for Cousin Jack's, that's not a chain of bars here (although there is a chain of Uncle Jack's steakhouses in NYC), I just deduced it was a bar or club in London, because of the lyrics: "Make the scene at Cousin Jack's, leave him to put the bottles back, mends his glasses that were cracked." I was thinking that bottles referred to booze, and glasses as beer mugs, snifters, etc., but could it be that those glasses he mended were eyeglasses? If so, who is Cousin Jack? Jeff
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 13:03:53 GMT -5
Jeff, Back in the 60's and 70's our licensing laws were prtty tight, our pubs and bars used to shut [religously] at 11.00 pm Monday to saturday and 10.30pm on Sundays. frequentley there wasn't many palces to go in the evening post-cinema other than a Wimpy Bar. I've never heard of Cousin Jack's as a bar - Is that an American chain? Hey, Pat, thanks for the explanation. Some of this British stuff would never be known to us Americans, and I'm sure there's other lyrics in Tull that I haven't fully understood for similar reasons. As for Cousin Jack's, that's not a chain of bars here (although there is a chain of Uncle Jack's steakhouses in NYC), I just deduced it was a bar or club in London, because of the lyrics: "Make the scene at Cousin Jack's, leave him to put the bottles back, mends his glasses that were cracked." I was thinking that bottles referred to booze, and glasses as beer mugs, snifters, etc., but could it be that those glasses he mended were eyeglasses? If so, who is Cousin Jack? Jeff Hi Jeff, I've not heard of a chain of bars called Cousin Jack's in the UK, may have been a one off club/pub/bar. I've always read it as Cousin Jack being a relation [Son of Auntie Flo?]; The cracked glasses being spectacles .
Pat
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