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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 28, 2010 18:49:22 GMT -5
There are many examples in Tull of lyrics having more than one possible meaning, an obvious one with perhaps a secondary meaning which very often is double entendre. One example of this is Valley. Initially I didn't read anything into the opening line, I just thought it meant being really tired, and having trouble getting out of bed, kind of like Life's a Long Song, the notion of "falling awake." It was only later that it dawned on me that "Wake hard in the morning" was a reference to morning wood! Duhhhhh... Jeff  P.S. Let's see if we can come up with other examples of these double-Tull meanings. |
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Post by TM on Mar 28, 2010 20:09:51 GMT -5
There are many examples in Tull of lyrics having more than one possible meaning, an obvious one with perhaps a secondary meaning which very often is double entendre. One example of this is Valley. Initially I didn't read anything into the opening line, I just thought it meant being really tired, and having trouble getting out of bed, kind of like Life's a Long Song, the notion of "falling awake." It was only later that it dawned on me that "Wake hard in the morning" was a reference to morning wood! Duhhhhh... Jeff P.S. Let's see if we can come up with other examples of these double-Tull meanings. Sure, the very next line: "See the young girl milking". No wonder he woke up hard that morning! |
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Post by pamelasews on May 14, 2010 9:53:12 GMT -5
OK, same album. Did you know in the music industry a "soft night" means low ticket sales?
Hence .... Under red lights, on soft nights, it all comes back to you .....
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Post by Nonfatman on May 14, 2010 10:32:28 GMT -5
OK, same album. Did you know in the music industry a "soft night" means low ticket sales? Hence .... Under red lights, on soft nights, it all comes back to you ..... Thanks, Pam, I didn't know that! Little tidbits like that help to really understand the songs. Jeff |
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Post by pamelasews on May 15, 2010 5:30:28 GMT -5
>>Thanks, Pam, I didn't know that! Little tidbits like that help to really understand the songs.
Jeff
Actually, I think that little tidbit was in fact somewhere in the Roots Tour Brochure ...
It was a while before it hit me; I have noticed that if you analyze songs on a line by line basis, then sometimes the overall meanings gets lost.
As far as waking hard in the morning ... I think that one is gender specific. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 1:03:08 GMT -5
My girlfriend once pointed out a double meaning for the lyrics to Mother Goose, specifically the opening lines: "As I did walk by hamstead fair, I came upon mother goose, so I turned her loose, she was screaming" I know the meaning of the dirty bit, but I remember she pointed out another really great possible meaning and for the life of me I can't remember.
Does anyone else have any ideas?
I know I've heard and pointed out many other double-tull meanings, and that is one of the things I love about Tull, but isn't it funny that when you need to remember something you never can remember it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 2:54:01 GMT -5
Aha! I've remembered another one! Sorry for the double-post. In Up the Pool the lyric "Sun-tanned stranded starfish in a daze" I think refers to both the literal meaning, but I also envision fat blobs of tourists lying on the beach tanning with their shades on. I also remember reading somewhere that in a blackpool tongue it's a bit hard to pronounce the A consonants in that line the way that Ian sings it, so it's a bit of a tease as well  |
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Post by Campion on Sept 9, 2011 6:31:49 GMT -5
"ringing no change in his double sewn seams"... change ringing is a manner of ringing church bells in a pattern. And what is swinging back and forth pendulously in a man's pants, I ask? Additionally, there is the 3rd level of rummaging through one's pockets looking for change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 10:12:33 GMT -5
On "Ringing no change in his double sewn seams" for me was referring to the fact that "old rockers" used to roll up the cuffs of their jeans and drop loose change in them. It would ring as they walked. The newer style was straight cuffs just "double sewn seams" thereby not "Ringing change" Something Ray Lomas, the old rocker, resisted. Also as you say like "his" church bells not ringing any longer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 10:38:39 GMT -5
Well... there's the obvious: Rock's On the Road as in rock is on the road again or Rocks on the Road as in the thousand little troubles encountered while ....rock is on the road....:-)
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Post by mbanford on Feb 17, 2012 17:35:11 GMT -5
I like, 'My zero to your power of ten = nothing at all.
of ten or often
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Post by alienart on Apr 12, 2012 20:58:51 GMT -5
Sorry for almost necro-posting, but I thought of:
"Down in the swamps iguanas glistening, toast tomorrow if not today." Since this song is about a volcanic island tragedy, the iguanas are either raising a glass to tomorrow, or they will *be* toast tomorrow.
Granted that's on an Anderson solo album.
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Post by Kerry Lynn on Apr 17, 2012 0:26:47 GMT -5
Well... there's the obvious: Rock's On the Road as in rock is on the road again or Rocks on the Road as in the thousand little troubles encountered while ....rock is on the road....:-) Darin Well spoken!  |
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Post by flutestobranches on Apr 26, 2012 18:14:11 GMT -5
OK, same album. Did you know in the music industry a "soft night" means low ticket sales? Hence .... Under red lights, on soft nights, it all comes back to you ..... I have always loved that lyric, and, all these years later, I finally know what it means (I'd been assigning my own mental image to it all this time)! Thank you for the information.  David |
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Post by Campion on Jul 19, 2012 10:59:17 GMT -5
"... and in the eyes of those 5 sisters of Kintail there's a wink of seduction from the mainland..."
just yesterday drove from western Scotland to the south past the 5 sisters' mountain peaks.
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Post by Mystery To Me on Dec 16, 2012 4:14:42 GMT -5
Shunt And Shuffle: While barren Madge prepares hot dinner.Fray Bentos pie: always a winner. Is Ian referring to eating fur pie at the Y?
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Post by jtul07 on Dec 16, 2012 11:13:36 GMT -5
Shunt And Shuffle: While barren Madge prepares hot dinner.Fray Bentos pie: always a winner.
Is Ian referring to eating fur pie at the Y? I think Hermione was at the earlier pie eating contest. ;D The Fray Bentos pie would be good for most blokes who have less money to spend. Much like our American "Banquet Pot Pies". Uuh umm good. |
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Post by Mystery To Me on Dec 16, 2012 16:44:57 GMT -5
Jim: The topic is double meanings whereas "eating Hermione for lunch"is pretty much straightforward,either way chow down. Possibly,with a bib on?
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Post by Prompter on Dec 24, 2012 11:55:07 GMT -5
Not really a double entendre, but it's appropriate for this time of the year - the line 'Seven maids move in seven time' from "Ring Out Solstice Bells" is actually quite clever, because the song is, in fact, in 7/8. ;D
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Post by Bostock on Jan 1, 2014 9:10:16 GMT -5
This line from Journeyman is also double: "Spine-tingling railway sleepers..." It's spine-tingling... but the railway sleepers is also causing a tingling sensation, up through the spine... when the train starts to move, and orange beams divide the darkness...  |
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Post by Bostock on Jan 1, 2014 9:31:30 GMT -5
"... and in the eyes of those 5 sisters of Kintail there's a wink of seduction from the mainland..." just yesterday drove from western Scotland to the south past the 5 sisters' mountain peaks. This is one of the reasons that I keep coming back to the board... I just couldn't have figured this out by myself...  |
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Post by Bostock on Jan 4, 2014 6:13:17 GMT -5
Okay... This one is obvious... but I think that it belongs here... The interpretation is not mine, but is taken from the wonderfull: "Cup Of Wonder" site. Highly recommendable if you want to get into the lyrics of Ian Anderson. Combine the words blow and job... and by the way... try not to think about sex... you won't succeed... 'cause this girl is definitely Kissing Willie... or is it just my imagination... running away with me...  Kissing Willie: Breaking hearts in a market town. She eats filet of sole and washes it down with sparkling wine. Nice girl, but a bad girl's better. Qualifies in both ways to my mind. But now she's kissing Willie. She shows a leg shows it damn well. Knows how to drive a man right back to being a child. Well, she's a nice girl, but her bad girl's better. I can read it in her cheating eyes and know that in a while. Well, she'll be kissing Willie. (My best friend, Willie.) Willie stands and Willie falls. Willie hangs his head behind grey factory walls. Well, she's a nice girl, but her bad girl's better. Me and Willie just can't help come, when she calls. Now she's kissing Willie. (My best friend, Willie.) Kissing Willie interpretation: The first thing we see with the song is that Ian wrote it in a first-person perspective i.e. the narrator, telling the story, is directly involved in it. The second thing we see is the 3-way relationship between the narrator, Willie and the "she" person. The first question to ask is who is Willie, or rather what is Willie? Well I don't know if Ian has a friend called Willie (don't think so!) and Ian usually writes about true events, so perhaps this is one of his story-songs. The title and the line "She shows a leg, shows it damn well", already shows that there is a mild sexual context to the song, so maybe if we look for more we will find it. Willie, is a common English slang word for the male genitalia (compare the American equivalent "wiener"- J.V.) and it very conceivable that Ian is the type of man who would use a word like this. The Scottish comedian, Billy Connelly, uses this word all the time when he's referring to that part of the body! If we do believe that Ian is playing around with this second meaning of the word, we begin to see all types of sexual innuendo in the lines "Willie stands and Willie falls", "Me and Willie just can't help come, when she calls" and even the line "She eats filet of sole and washes it down" seems to have a second, sexual, meaning. Another thing to keep in mind, is that the narrator doesn't seem to mind being cheated on. He's not angry at her at all, in fact it seems as if he quiet enjoys it, "Well, she's a nice girl, but her bad girl's better"! And why is this? Again, if we don't look at "Willie" being a person's name we can see a reason for this in the line "My best friend, Willie". It is said (not by me!) that many men build up a special bond between themselves and their private parts, you could almost call it, a friendship! So, perhaps this is what Ian is referring to in that line. So if we believe all that about Ian's use of the word "Willie" in this song, we see an almost totally new meaning to the line "now she's kissing Willie". No longer is it just innocent osculation between two lovers but in fact: fellatio! Look at the line "She eats filet of sole and washes it down" again, to see what I mean! Oran Fitzgibbon |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 0:29:02 GMT -5
We love Jan Voorbiz! You know he's a member here and I refer to his Cup of Wonder Site once in a while…...
Darin
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Post by Bostock on Jan 5, 2014 5:12:47 GMT -5
We love Jan Voorbiz! You know he's a member here and I refer to his Cup of Wonder Site once in a while…... Darin I didn't know that he was a member of the board! I'm a big fan of him! What is his username? I've often wondered if he could be persuaded to write annotations for "Thick As A Brick 2" and the upcoming "Homo Erraticus"? He's very, very good at this! So if you read this, Jan Voorbij, thank you for the wonderful Cup Of Wonder site! It's very helpful, and it really is a wonder!! Bostock |
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Post by Pieter on Jan 5, 2014 6:53:38 GMT -5
Jan is actually called Voorbij. Yep, he's done a terriffic job on that site. I love just browsing it every now and then.
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