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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 17, 2010 16:24:58 GMT -5
How much do we know about the offspring of band members, aside from James? Not too much really. I wonder how many of them are involved in music.
There is a Clive Bunker Jr. on Facebook who is a classical and jazz pianist, who has an extensive following among prog-rockers as well. I am assuming that he is Clive's son, because from his photos he does resemble Clive.
Let's see what we can find out.
Jeff
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Post by JinxCat on Sept 18, 2010 23:46:51 GMT -5
Have you been osmosis-ing into my brain? I had a similar idea a couple months ago, but haven't had much time to dig up info. (I was gonna call it TullSpawn, haha.) Barrie's daughter Katie Louise is a documentary filmmaker: www.katiebarlow.co.uk/www.ageofstupid.net/node/1960www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/features/new-film-champions-humanity/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hardy (her boyfriend) We previously saw her as the baby in dad's arms in photo, and on bicycle in Lively Arts docu, as well as siblings Sarah Joanne and David John. But wait, there's more! Glenn's kids: James Drew Molly Matilda (GORGEOUS!) Alex (lil squirt, but ya never know what he'll grow up to be!) Martin's other two: Jennifer Melissa (last seen wearing green romper in Lively Arts docu) Cameron Lancelot Jeffrey's son Edward Thomas A. Is he as elusive as his father? Gael's married to Andrew Lincoln, but do we know what she might do? That's about all I've got for now...
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Post by tullfan on Sept 29, 2010 16:34:36 GMT -5
I don't know much about the children of tull and I'm very interested really. People on the other board asked me if I was obsessed but I'm not. I'm just truly inerested. I thought Gael worked in the felm industry and there was something about her maybe directing a felm called teachers that her husband is in. Does Ian have any grand babies? Anyway, very interesting about Clive's possible son.
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 29, 2010 18:04:00 GMT -5
I don't know much about the children of tull and I'm very interested really. People on the other board asked me if I was obsessed but I'm not. I'm just truly inerested. I thought Gael worked in the felm industry and there was something about her maybe directing a felm called teachers that her husband is in. Does Ian have any grand babies? Anyway, very interesting about Clive's possible son. I don't think there is anything wrong in being curious as to what professions/occupations they have entered, and particularly if any of them are involved in music or the performing arts. I don't see how that can be viewed as in any way intrusive or an invasion of privacy, and it is fair game, as far as I am concerned. The fact is we know very little, other than James obviously. Jeff
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Post by JinxCat on Sept 29, 2010 20:57:39 GMT -5
Well, according to Gael's IMDB page, she was "Miscellaneous Crew" on the Brit TV show Teachers, in which Andrew appeared. This seems to be her only credit. (And I'll guess they met on the set?) On Andrew's Wikipedia page is this info: "On 10 June 2006, he married Gael Anderson, the daughter of musician Ian Anderson of the rock band Jethro Tull. At the wedding, Apple Martin (daughter of American actress Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin, lead singer of Coldplay) was the flower girl. The couple's first child, a daughter, was born on 10 September 2007." So yes, there IS a Tull grandbaby! (First one? )
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Post by tullfan on Sept 29, 2010 21:06:36 GMT -5
Aw. how sweet. Ian has a grand baby girl. That's neat to me. Yes. I'm wondering if Gael andAndrew met on that show. Well, it says their first child, so maybe there is another grand baby? It's interesting for me. It really is. I wonder if a q and a with Gael would be something to concider or not?
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Post by Ulla on Sept 30, 2010 6:13:37 GMT -5
How much do we know about the offspring of band members, aside from James? Not too much really. I wonder how many of them are involved in music. There is a Clive Bunker Jr. on Facebook who is a classical and jazz pianist, who has an extensive following among prog-rockers as well. I am assuming that he is Clive's son, because from his photos he does resemble Clive. Jeff Wrong!!! Clive´s children have absolutely nothing to do with the music business. And I don´t even want to see their names here! And I think that this threat is f**** useless. The musicians families have NOTHING to do with the band or their fathers profession. If one of their offspring is a musician, she /he would prefer not to be compared to her/his father. That´s the reason why James Duncan does not use his father´s name and for that he has my respect. So, please stop this! It is none of your business!
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Post by Ulla on Sept 30, 2010 6:23:15 GMT -5
I don't know much about the children of tull and I'm very interested really. People on the other board asked me if I was obsessed but I'm not. I'm just truly inerested. I thought Gael worked in the felm industry and there was something about her maybe directing a felm called teachers that her husband is in. Does Ian have any grand babies? Anyway, very interesting about Clive's possible son. I don't think there is anything wrong in being curious as to what professions/occupations they have entered, and particularly if any of them are involved in music or the performing arts. I don't see how that can be viewed as in any way intrusive or an invasion of privacy, and it is fair game, as far as I am concerned. The fact is we know very little, other than James obviously. Jeff You can´t be that stupid. It is intrusive and it defenitly is an invasion of privacy and it is NOT fair, because the children HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BAND!!! So leave them in peace.
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Post by My God on Sept 30, 2010 8:21:36 GMT -5
I agree, leave them in peace. You see it's only solitaire.
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Post by tootull on Sept 30, 2010 9:03:39 GMT -5
I agree, leave them in peace. You see it's only solitaire. Yes, all you are saying is give peace a chance. (look out for flying corn) I like to stick to the music. I don't really care about the other stuff. Fluff. clear understanding -talisman.
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Post by Dan on Sept 30, 2010 10:22:55 GMT -5
I don't think there is anything wrong in being curious as to what professions/occupations they have entered, and particularly if any of them are involved in music or the performing arts. I don't see how that can be viewed as in any way intrusive or an invasion of privacy, and it is fair game, as far as I am concerned. The fact is we know very little, other than James obviously. Jeff You can´t be that stupid. It is intrusive and it defenitly is an invasion of privacy and it is NOT fair, because the children HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BAND!!! So leave them in peace. ANYBODY who posts on Facebook is fair game.
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 30, 2010 11:21:42 GMT -5
I don't think there is anything wrong in being curious as to what professions/occupations they have entered, and particularly if any of them are involved in music or the performing arts. I don't see how that can be viewed as in any way intrusive or an invasion of privacy, and it is fair game, as far as I am concerned. The fact is we know very little, other than James obviously. Jeff You can´t be that stupid. It is intrusive and it defenitly is an invasion of privacy and it is NOT fair, because the children HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BAND!!! So leave them in peace. Ulla, first off, I have to say that I was surprised and hurt by your insulting remark and tone, as I thought we had a friendly relationship here, but let me respond. This thread was started after I noticed a musician by the name of Clive Bunker, Jr. on Facebook. He has got tons of FB friends and is apparently a very talented classical pianist who is also well-known in progressive rock circles. So because of the name, and the fact that he is a musician, I wondered whether he is Clive's son and had inherited his father's musical talent. I see nothing whatsoever wrong with that, especially since the guy is on Facebook and has the same exact name, except with a "Jr." attached to it. I am not quite sure why you consider it off-limits to discuss the artistic and/or musical pursuits of any of the band members' children, and whether any of them are involved in the performing arts. Certainly there have been previous threads here, and on other Tull boards, where James Duncan, Cameron Barre, Gael Anderson, Matt Pegg, etc. have been discussed, insofar as there involvement in the arts is concerned. There is, after all, a natural curiosity to know whether the offspring of talented performers have inherited any of the talents of their famous parents. That is the case not only with famous musicians (Sean and Julian Lennon, Dweezil Zappa, Rick and Oliver Wakeman, James Duncan, etc.) but also with famous athletes (Barry and Bobby Bonds, Ken Griffey, Sr. and Jr. and other father-and-son baseball players.) For example, I don't think it is any secret that Martin's son is a musician, that Gael Anderson is involved in the film industry and is married to an actor, or that James Duncan is Ian's son. This is all common public knowledge, readily available on the internet and is in no way private, and in fact Ian and Martin have publicly discussed their children's artistic careers. If we do the same here, I cannot see how that would not be letting them "live in peace." It's not as if we are giving away any personal or residential information, prying into their family lives, participating in tawdry gossip or posting any embarassing photos. That would be an invasion of privacy, but trying to learn more about the public musical or artistic careers of band members' children most certainly is not. Having said all that, we do know that you are close friends with Clive and if he prefers that we not inquire whether any of his children are musicians or artists, then we will refrain from doing so, and from this moment on we will not discuss Clive's children at all. But we are not going to shy away from discussing whether the other band members have children who are involved in the entertainment industry, as it is fair game. Ulla, you must know that we value you as a member here, and have enjoyed your past contributions to the board, and sincerely hope that you will continue to visit us and post here. We are sorry for any misunderstanding. [Please see my PM for further comment.] Jeff
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Post by tullfan on Sept 30, 2010 16:52:41 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with asking about their children's careers. On a yes forum I am on, they do it a lot. It's not a bad thing, and they even ask info about their wives and things, not personal stuff, but just general stuff about them. I don't think that's wrong.
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Post by Ulla on Oct 1, 2010 4:49:42 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with asking about their children's careers. On a yes forum I am on, they do it a lot. It's not a bad thing, and they even ask info about their wives and things, not personal stuff, but just general stuff about them. I don't think that's wrong. Talking about someones wive is not personal? Hello!!!! How would you feel, if some people you don´t know and who you´ve never met talk about your wive and children on the internet?
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Post by Ulla on Oct 1, 2010 5:21:02 GMT -5
@ Jeff, sorry for the insult, but I was really upset o find a thread like that in this forum.
Ok, you saw a musician called Clive Bunker jr. on facebook, so why did you not ask him, if he is Clive´s son?
To talk about James Duncan, Matt Pegg or Gael Anderson is not a problem, because they work in the showbuizz and with that they are so called "people of public interest", they run their own websites or are on facebook, so it is their job to deal with fans.
You say you were "trying to learn more about the public musical or artistic careers of band member´s children". So would you please tell me, why Glenn´s 7 year old son is mentioned here? And his other children, who have nothing to do with showbuizz?
If the musicians talk about their children in an interview, it is their own decision. And I think it is common knowledge that Glenn published some private photos on his website.
But I still can´t see, what it has to do with Jethro Tull? Does it change my musical taste to know how many grandchildren Ian has? Do I enjoy Tull gigs more when I know the names of Martin´s children? Do I stop waiting for a new album by following Barrie´s daughter´s carrier?
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Post by Tommie on Oct 1, 2010 11:05:05 GMT -5
Wow. And people get on MY case?
Ulla, you is weird, man...and scary. Get some help, please. geeez!
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 1, 2010 15:47:08 GMT -5
@ Jeff, sorry for the insult, but I was really upset o find a thread like that in this forum. Ok, you saw a musician called Clive Bunker jr. on facebook, so why did you not ask him, if he is Clive´s son? To talk about James Duncan, Matt Pegg or Gael Anderson is not a problem, because they work in the showbuizz and with that they are so called "people of public interest", they run their own websites or are on facebook, so it is their job to deal with fans. You say you were "trying to learn more about the public musical or artistic careers of band member´s children". So would you please tell me, why Glenn´s 7 year old son is mentioned here? And his other children, who have nothing to do with showbuizz? If the musicians talk about their children in an interview, it is their own decision. And I think it is common knowledge that Glenn published some private photos on his website. But I still can´t see, what it has to do with Jethro Tull? Does it change my musical taste to know how many grandchildren Ian has? Do I enjoy Tull gigs more when I know the names of Martin´s children? Do I stop waiting for a new album by following Barrie´s daughter´s carrier? Ulla, there is nothing wrong with wanting to know a little about the family life and children of celebrities, in fact it is included in most Wikipedia biographical entries that I have seen, notably Ian's entry, which has a section entitled Family and Personal Life. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Anderson_(musician)Certainly if the band members such as Glenn make information and/or photos about their wives and children publicly available on the internet, or consent to such information and/or photographs being made public on the internet, then it enters the realm of public information, and can no longer be considered private. Obviously, such information and photographs are intended to be viewed by fans otherwise he would not post it on his website. And, for the life of me, I fail to understand why you would have a problem with me inquiring on this board whether anyone here knows whether the classical/jazz/prog rock pianist Clive Bunker, Jr. is the son of the Tull drummer. That totally escapes me, especially since you have indicated that Clive Bunker, Jr. is not his son. The truth is people are just naturally curious about the children of celebrities, whether they be famous athletes, politicians, actors or musicians. Weren't Tiger Woods' children in the news recently? Aren't President Obama's children the subject of much media attention? And when Michael Jackson died, weren't there tons of stories about his kids, including photographs and information about who would be taking care of them. Those are just a few examples. Jeff
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Post by warchild82 on Oct 1, 2010 16:23:56 GMT -5
I agree with you Jeff. I'm now warchild82, not tullfan by the way. A lot of people discuss the children of celeberties, take Jon anderson of yes's children. They are all in to music, and Rick's children as well. And if you want to know something about a member's wife,it's not bad, as long as it's not gossip.
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Post by Nonfatman on Jan 19, 2011 23:40:38 GMT -5
Has anyone watched the AMC series The Walking Dead, starring Ian's son-in-law, Andrew Lincoln, in the lead role?
Aside from the original Night of the Living Dead, I'm not one for zombie movies, and this series is reminsicent of recent movies like I am Legend and 28 Days, not to mention Dawn of the Dead, but the storylines, acting, script and sets are all extremely well-done, and it's a compelling series.
Jeff
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Post by tullster82 on Feb 18, 2011 23:43:29 GMT -5
Researching information that is available in public places(i.e, the internet), is not an invasion of privacy, especially if for your own private use. And there really shouldn't be any problem sharing it with others on a board like this one, given that we are not slandering. If you believe that this sort of stuff is rude, then you would probably consider many things rude that others would find perfectly acceptable. Its just a matter of opinion.
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Post by tullster82 on Feb 18, 2011 23:48:00 GMT -5
... I'm now warchild82, not tullfan by the way... Not to be confused with myself! 29 this year?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2011 2:09:19 GMT -5
I can be sympathetic to the view that celebrities children shouldn't be talked about or have too much interested pointed towards them (perhaps not with as much passion as Ulla though). If I was the child of a celebrity I would certainly regret being put into the public spotlight and speculated with no choice of my own from an early age as many children are these days. But I don't think the interest in Tull members children expressed in these forums are to nearly that extent. Some are just interested in knowing who in Tull has children, and what they've done with their lives. It doesn't seem to be anything similar to tabloids and ridiculous evening news spots. I doubt people on the forums will make much of a habit of updating themselves constantly on these kids lives, and speculating on what they're wearing, or scandalous activity
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Post by tullfan on Feb 24, 2011 20:43:17 GMT -5
True. I agree. it's not like we are trying to start anything rude. it's just that we'd like to know about the children of tull. I'm back as tullfan again by the way. I'd like to give you all my msn and yahoo messenger addresses if you'd like to add me. msn is tullfan2010@hotmail.com and yahoo one is jaxware82@yahoo.com I haven't seen the movie with Ian's son in law, but I love zombee movies so might give it a shot. thanks.
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Post by Nonfatman on Feb 24, 2011 21:11:06 GMT -5
True. I agree. it's not like we are trying to start anything rude. it's just that we'd like to know about the children of tull. I'm back as tullfan again by the way. I'd like to give you all my msn and yahoo messenger addresses if you'd like to add me. msn is tullfan2010@hotmail.com and yahoo one is jaxware82@yahoo.com I haven't seen the movie with Ian's son in law, but I love zombee movies so might give it a shot. thanks. Hi, Tullfan, all I can say is that you must see The Walking Dead mini-series. It is friggin' great, and I'm not even a zombie fan (except for maybe The Omega Man with Charlton Heston and the original Night of The Living Dead). It feels so real, and the script, sets, acting and futuristic scenes are all superb. The first season ended not too long ago -- six episodes on AMC -- but season two is going to be about 15 episodes, I believe, plus it is my understanding that James Duncan is also going to be in it, but I'm not sure if it's for one episode or as a regular cast member. Jeff
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Post by Bwanabob on Mar 7, 2011 16:16:49 GMT -5
Ulla,
One word - decaf.
-BwanaBob
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