Chateau D'Isaster

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Mar 29, 2011 1:53:23 GMT -5 Stjerky said:

Great! Thank You Quizz Kid!

No worries, I'm glad it's getting to the ears of many who may not have heard it before and that it's appreciated.

[Mix]

Fantastic stuff Quizz.

Have a look at this software for fixing it:

www.izotope.com/products/audio/rx/

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Apr 1, 2011 7:29:13 GMT -5 Mix said:

Fantastic stuff Quizz.

Have a look at this software for fixing it:

www.izotope.com/products/audio/rx/

Thanks Mix,

I'll give it a go, anything to get rid of that Buzz ;D

[grassysound]

Will we be blessed with a torrent of this material?

[jrpipik]

Rusticates Ahead

[Nonfatman]

Apr 21, 2011 16:51:07 GMT -5 grassysound said:

Will we be blessed with a torrent of this material?

Hi, "Grassysound"

I'm afraid that torrents are not something that we do here, but I think there are other internet sites where you can get them. Also, I think a guy named Alung here just mentioned the other day that he was going to "tree" the COAK demos to the entire Tull community. I'm not certain exactly what that means, but maybe you can get in touch with him through the private message facility and he can provide you with more information about that. Maybe he also has the Chateau D'isaster stuff, because apparently that's been floating around in the form of bootlegs for a number of years.

Welcome to The Jethro Tull Board, by the way, and thanks for your interest here! We look forward to your participation on the board.

Jeff

[grassysound]

Mar 24, 2011 16:35:14 GMT -5 TM said:

Mar 24, 2011 16:13:01 GMT -5 King Heath said:

Hi Quizz Kid,

The boot you were looking for is called "Minstrels in the Red House". My version (a coverless copy) contains:

Monte Carlo, April 1975 (BBC - In Session):

1 Minstrel in the Gallery
2 Requiem
3 Aqualung (Happy 40th Anniversary, Aqui Baby! Today or yesterday or so)
4 Cold Wind to Valhalla

Chateau D'Isaster, 1972:

5 Intro (which would be "Early Life Beats")
6 Scenario
7 Audition
8 Skating Away
9 Sailor
10 No Rehearsal

Buffalo, USA, September 1975:

11 To Cry You A Song
12 A New Day Yesterday
13 Flute Solo (incl.):
14 God Rest Ye...
15 Bourée
16 Teacher
17 A New Day Yesterday - Reprise

If I'm not mistaken - the quality of the boot is slightly better than the one you put online - these are the same recordings. It would indeed be great if your tape would contain more of the Chateau outtakes. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it does. If not, I'm sorry if I crushed your gold digger feeling here.

Tudelu

KH

It makes perfect sense that other copies of these songs exist out there. Truth is though, Quizz had this a long time prior to any boots being made.

I have the Monte Carlo session you mentioned. Those are very good. I'll have to post them.

I have the ORIGINAL tape that was used to make the "Minstrels In The Red House" boot. The quality is the same as the CD.

[pantagruel]

Apr 22, 2011 7:54:49 GMT -5 grassysound said:

Mar 24, 2011 16:35:14 GMT -5 TM said:

It makes perfect sense that other copies of these songs exist out there. Truth is though, Quizz had this a long time prior to any boots being made.

I have the Monte Carlo session you mentioned. Those are very good. I'll have to post them.

I have the ORIGINAL tape that was used to make the "Minstrels In The Red House" boot. The quality is the same as the CD.

I've been looking for a copy of it for a long time! The Minstrels In The Red House version is lossy sourced (I supposed noise reduction was applied), so a tape sourced copy would be stellar! Can we set up a trade or something?

[Illoman]

This seemed like the proper thread to talk about this:

Anyone see this on the Big O website:

Jethro Tull - The Lost Chateau Album (A Partial Reconstruction) [no label 1CD demonoid 2792527] fan compilation of a lost Tull album recorded partially at Chateau d'Herouville, France in 1972 for a double album. "For this reconstruction, we've used tracks from the 1993 Nightcap compilation, the Minstrels In The Red House bootleg, the MFSL CDs of A Passion Play and War Child and the DCC disc of Original Masters." Mostly Ex SBD stereo.

if you Google the title "Jethro Tull - The Lost Chateau Album (A Partial Reconstruction)" you can find torrents galore for this. I listened to it and think it's wonderful!! Ironically enough I've owned Nightcap for years, but never really listened to it much. This past week I've been listening to it and really enjoy it. It's like "new/old" Tull. I've never heard the tracks from the Minstrels in the Red House boot so that was a treat. Sound quality was quite nice as well on the reconstruction. I just hope the rumors that Steven Wilson has talked Ian into letting him remaster the Chateau tapes are correct!

[Jethro Tull FTW]

Thanks for posting these. I love the Chateau d'Isaster tapes. If only there was another 30 minutes of music to fit on the end of it.

[marchdrummer]

very cool love this one yes .......I knew that there was more takes in the can thanks for posting this I am new to this site

[Lucas]

Hey guys!
Sorry to play the gravedigger to "unearth" this topic from the mists of the past. However, I've been listening to Nightcap A LOT in the past few weeks.
It got to me more than it ever did before. It's truly amazing. Then I started listening to boots from 72 and 73, that featured No Rehearsal and stuff, so I remembered of a bootleg called Minstrel in The Red House, that you guys talked about in this thread, and found it in my archive. Oh what a listen!
It's basicaly what Pat posted, but my copy doesn't have the buzz in the middle but has some static around the music. However it is very enjoyable indeed.
Do you think it is really the finished form from a side of what would have been the Chateau double disc?
I have read some people saying that it wasn't possible to know if it really was meant to be that order or if the songs were just put together that way in recording and would maybe later be rearranged. I find that idea to be really unlikely, and I present a few facts about the recording that sugests it was really the whole side of a vinyl.

• It is about 22 and half minutes.
• The beginning is an introduction to the whole thing
• At the end of Scenario, God pours himself another cup of tea. Right after that, we have Skating Away, later presented in Warchild. In the Warchild track we have a spoken bit in which a woman offers the guy another cup of tea. Now, we know that in the Warchild movie script God was the boss of a company, so it would be fitting in that context for him to talk about an office. This one does not present a strong case and is a bit far fetched but here it is.
• Now about transitions. The transition from Skating Away to Sailor is very smooth. But from Sailor to No Reharseal it's even better, the guitar of No Rehearsal comes right on top of the ending of Sailor. If the songs were to be reordered later that superposition would make no sense at all.

Well, that's it! All of that to say that I believe the Chateau D'isaster track out there to really be the final form of a side of the famous Chateau double album, and that I'm listening to it a lot, and it's truly a remarkable long piece of music.

[TM]

Thanks for resurrecting this thread Lucas. I need to listen to those again!

[Lucas]

Pat, I really really hope we'll be listening to those in a new bright and shinning 5.1 surround version remixed by Steven Wilson, with perhaps even more music never heard before. Let's see!!

[TM]

That's what I'm hoping for!

[Lucas]

Oops. I called you Pat. Sorry, my bad. Don't think I recall your name. Is it John?

[TM]

Mar 2, 2014 16:47:55 GMT -5 Lucas said:

Oops. I called you Pat. Sorry, my bad. Don't think I recall your name. Is it John?

You can call me anything but of course just don't call me late for dinner!    Actually it's Paul.  I thought you might have mixed up our names, but I wasn't sure.  Quizz Kid is Pat.

Forgive me if I'm repeating something that may have already been posted here, but what I've heard is that about 10 minutes of the original Chateau D'Isaster Tapes was excluded when they released Night Cap.  Furthermore, Ian added flute overdubs back in 1993 which of course is part of Night Cap.   Supposedly those flute overdubs have now been removed from the new mix making this as authentic as possible.  

Sounds pretty exciting.

[Lucas]

Paul! That's right! I forgot hehe.

Anyway, 10 minutes... that should make up for the intro, skating away and sailor.
About the overdubs, I knew that, and even before I did I always got a feeling that it didn't sound.... natural. It fits but the lack of lyrics for most of Critique Oblique seemed at least weird. Also in the end of the flute part you can hear Ian's voice, and it sounds very 90's.
It should be interesting to hear it clean, as close as it would have been if completed, despite the lack of lyrics.
I'm curious about the rest of it. We know roughly where Skating Away and Solitaire fit in the whole thing. But having Sealion 2 in Nightcap it would be logical that Sealion was also in the mix.
Not sure about Bungle though. In my opinion it was a later composition obviously inspired by the aborted human/animal theme of the Chateau era.
I also don't belive the Hare tale was in the Chateau. It always felt to me like something created... not in a hurry but to complete the record, that was made really quickly and to keep at some degree the animal theme. Also it provided some theatrical dimesion to the shows I imagine.

[Dan]

Mar 2, 2014 17:20:22 GMT -5 TM said:

Mar 2, 2014 16:47:55 GMT -5 Lucas said:

Oops. I called you Pat. Sorry, my bad. Don't think I recall your name. Is it John?

You can call me anything but of course just don't call me late for dinner!    Actually it's Paul.  I thought you might have mixed up our names, but I wasn't sure.  Quizz Kid is Pat.

Forgive me if I'm repeating something that may have already been posted here, but what I've heard is that about 10 minutes of the original Chateau D'Isaster Tapes was excluded when they released Night Cap.  Furthermore, Ian added flute overdubs back in 1993 which of course is part of Night Cap.   Supposedly those flute overdubs have now been removed from the new mix making this as authentic as possible.  

Sounds pretty exciting.

I can't wait for the remixed version of APP either. I hope they didn't subtract the sax parts that they were talking about.

Dan

[TM]

I didn't sound like it Dan. Just the overdubs that Ian added in 1993.

[Lucas]

Ok, so I found the Chateau Tapes Partial Reconstruction that people talked about in this thread.
Inside of it, apart from the reconstruction itself, there's the track from the Minstrel in the Red House bootleg, and also the six tracks separeted and remastered. The remastering was really well done and improved a lot upon the tracks. I uploaded it in my blog right now, in Flac, and wih the remastering documentation the guy made. I don't have his name to credit him unfortunately.

Here's the link: bootlegstullianos.blogspot.com.br/2014/03/chateau-disaster-tapes-remastered.html

Awesome listen!

[Michael Crowe]

Mar 2, 2014 17:36:46 GMT -5 Dan said:

Mar 2, 2014 17:20:22 GMT -5 TM said:

You can call me anything but of course just don't call me late for dinner!    Actually it's Paul.  I thought you might have mixed up our names, but I wasn't sure.  Quizz Kid is Pat.

Forgive me if I'm repeating something that may have already been posted here, but what I've heard is that about 10 minutes of the original Chateau D'Isaster Tapes was excluded when they released Night Cap.  Furthermore, Ian added flute overdubs back in 1993 which of course is part of Night Cap.   Supposedly those flute overdubs have now been removed from the new mix making this as authentic as possible.  

Sounds pretty exciting.

I can't wait for the remixed version of APP either. I hope they didn't subtract the sax parts that they were talking about.

Dan

And Ian hates the sax now. I read somewhere that he wanted to subtract the over voice flute on Aqualung in a couple places but Wilson insisted it remained.

[Zombywoof]

Really great stuff. Interesting that "Skating Away" sounds almost identical to the WarChild version. Maybe it is?