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Post by SilverHamer on May 25, 2011 15:11:48 GMT -5
I was surfing Amazon earlier today and saw something which piqued my interest and made me stop and think a little. I was reading reviews for a Tull DVD titled "Jethro Tull: Classic Artists (2008)" found at this URL: www.amazon.com/Jethro-Tull-Classic-Artists/dp/B002TZS50G/ref=pd_bxgy_d_img_cThe very first review, by a person calling themselves rock 3572 "rock" makes a very curious statement...and I quote: I still wish we had a concert or two from the Aqualung or Thick as a Brick tours, but unfortunately they don't seem to exist (and it is my very personal suspicion that Mr. Jeffrey Hammond is the reason there is virtually no Tull footage from 1971-75 - Has anyone noticed that all Tull film ceases in this period and picks up again with the Tampa concert in 76?). That being said Mr. Hammond is the only band member missing from this dvd, but he was generous enough to contribute a wonderful essay that is very amusing. [/i] Interesting observation about Jeffrey...it seems logical, however I can think of TWO things which have been made available from 1971 thru 1975 in which Jeffrey appears. The first of which being from the 25th Anniversary video where they include "The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles" which was most likely orchestrated by Jeffrey himself...and then there is a video clip of them playing Minstrel In The Gallery which features Jeffrey sporting his diagonal stripes, but in reality I have only viewed THAT on youtube and have no idea which production video it would be on. So what do YOU think...do you think there may be some validity to this person's suspicions about why there is little to no available Tull footage from between 1971 and 1975? Or is it just coincidence? Personally, I am of the opinion that Ian is the one driving the cart on anything Tull, so I don't believe Jeffrey could have this type of influence...but then again, he and Ian are old school mates and perhaps they have some kind of an agreement? Just curious what everyone else might think about this. LC |
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Post by TM on May 25, 2011 15:41:25 GMT -5
Hey Larry, Good to see you again. Barrie Barlow touches on that exact subject in this interview: "Yes, we've sort of buried the hatchet. But the hatchets were out only a couple of years ago when there was talk of a DVD (Living With The Past DVD - Paul) being made. We had a letter from Ian describing the percentage of the deal, which included, and I kid you not - if you weren't in shot, you didn't get paid, and I quote, "Flailing drumsticks or fingers on fretboard will not qualify. You have to be full in shot," which I rallied vehemently against. You know what a showman Ian is so he just took all the shots. We crossed swords then. John [Evan], Jeff and I were all of the opinion and we just refused to sign it." Read more: thejethrotullboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=band&action=display&thread=1931#ixzz1NOjKndmFSo while Ian stated the present band was used for the live footage in Living With The Past because of the superior image and sound quality, the truth is he could not reach an agreement with the other guys. And that of course means the footage is ready and available if they ever can reach an agreement. |
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Post by SilverHamer on May 25, 2011 16:07:42 GMT -5
Jeesh, that is very disappointing, particularly since John, Jeff and Barry are members of my favorite lineup of the band. It is insane that he wouldn't consider the fact that we are HEARING them in the audio track...the video is useless without it. If this is indeed how it is, then IA is being very unreasonable I think...but like I said, he's the one driving the cart.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 16:33:51 GMT -5
Ian would probably make more $$ by sharing equally with Jeff, Barrie, Martin and John off of the older footage than anything from the last 15 years.
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Post by Morthoron on May 25, 2011 19:14:20 GMT -5
Ian is already ridiculously wealthy. He owns half of Scotland, for Christ's sake. It's things like this that give respected and well-loved performers a perpetual black eye. Ian, don't be a dick.
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Post by SilverHamer on May 25, 2011 21:28:35 GMT -5
Ian would probably make more $$ by sharing equally with Jeff, Barrie, Martin and John off of the older footage than anything from the last 15 years. That's just one angle, Max. What I think he REALLY should be considering is how happy it would make his fans to be able to see that stuff from the band's golden era instead of worrying about who gets what for being on camera or whatever. THEY WERE A FREAKIN BAND FFS!!! And everyone on stage is heard in the audio whether they are in frame or not. It's ignorant stuff like this which really turns me off toward even some of my favorite performers, and the older I get, the more crotchity I become about it. I don't really give two rips about how wealthy anyone is or isn't, and I believe the sky should be the limit for anyone, but for Pete's sake don't try to take a dump on the people who helped you achieve your greatness at a most pivotal time in your career! Some of US (your fans) might care more about THAT than anything else you ever do for the rest of your miserable life...not that you'd really care about that either, Ian, but c'mon, man! Don't blow smoke on those who love you...get real and man-up. Egos...they can sure be ugly, can't they? Sorry for spewing a little bit but this kind of stuff just really chaps my a$$, and I don't care WHO you are. And the real travesty here is that WE, the people who have been spending our hard-earned money for over 4 decades to buy Tull records and go to Tull concerts (basically doing the thing that provides their income) are being deprived of having a part of the greatest era of our favorite band because someone is being an unreasonable micro-managing penny-pincher. Hey, it's every bit a major part of OUR lives as it is for the band. I'm just sayin'...and again I apologize for spewing. |
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Post by jrpipik on May 26, 2011 7:24:57 GMT -5
It's probably worth noting that we're only getting one side of the story here.
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Post by TM on May 26, 2011 10:54:19 GMT -5
Yes, but the fact is Ian hasn't released any footage from 71-75 and this would explain why. I believe David Rees may have mentioned it in AND as well....
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Post by SilverHamer on May 26, 2011 11:21:41 GMT -5
Well, sorry for my narrow-mindedness and perhaps going off on a tangient. I'm guilty of a little bit of supposition and speculation, but this would not be the first time this sort of thing about IA has come to surface, either. Yes, we're displaying one side of the situation, and in my earlier post I sort of qualified myself by saying "IF" this is the case, etc...but it still irritates the stew out of me. I cannot imagine Barrie Barlow going on record in an interview divulging anything that wasn't true, either. Somehow we have to find a way to chew up the meat and spit out the bones on this one. I should shut-up... ROFL!
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Post by jrpipik on May 26, 2011 12:50:31 GMT -5
I get that where's there's smoke, there's usually fire. But I also know that disgruntled former employees always give ex-bosses grief and band members always give the guy in the band who makes the most money the most grief.
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Post by Nonfatman on May 26, 2011 13:12:19 GMT -5
That could be a song, sung to the tune of "Billy, Don't be a Hero." Jeff |
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Post by Stjerky on May 27, 2011 3:28:27 GMT -5
I think I need a DVD or two from Jeffrey era.
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Post by Mttbsh on May 27, 2011 12:35:20 GMT -5
Ian is already ridiculously wealthy. He owns half of Scotland, for Christ's sake. It's things like this that give respected and well-loved performers a perpetual black eye. Ian, don't be a dick. Most of those who have achieved great wealth have done so by caring more about making money than about pleasing others. Business and profit drive their decisions. If Ian really is that way, he'll get focused on releasing material from the Jeffrey era (hands downTull's finest) only if he were convinced that it would make him more money. Forty years on are there still enough fans to make the release of an old concert highly profitable? I personally believe the answer is yes. I would give my left %^$ for a pro recorded Tull concert from 1972, if such a document even existed. I think the 1 hr Paris 1975 film released on DVD would sell extremely well. If I were Ian, I would selfishly want the world to see what a magnificent group Jethro Tull was in the early 70s. They had no peer in terms of their on-stage performances, and there needs to be a record of it. It would be worth whatever effort it took to work out licenses/royalties and other costs to get it released. Matt |
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Post by Nonfatman on May 27, 2011 15:40:02 GMT -5
I think I need a DVD or two from Jeffrey era. It would be nice if some concerts from that era are eventually found and released. How are you, Jyriki? Are you going to see Tull in Finland? I think they are doing some shows there soon. Jeff |
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Post by Morthoron on May 27, 2011 20:29:15 GMT -5
That could be a song, sung to the tune of "Billy, Don't be a Hero." Jeff It would flow more nicely with the song if I changed it to "Ian, don't be a dildo". |
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Post by TM on May 27, 2011 20:55:38 GMT -5
That could be a song, sung to the tune of "Billy, Don't be a Hero." Jeff It would flow more nicely with the song if I changed it to "Ian, don't be a dildo". Yes, you need 2 syllables. Dildo is fine. Others may have thought of penis but hey, no harm no foul.  |
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Post by Stjerky on May 30, 2011 7:23:07 GMT -5
I think I need a DVD or two from Jeffrey era. It would be nice if some concerts from that era are eventually found and released. How are you, Jyriki? Are you going to see Tull in Finland? I think they are doing some shows there soon. Jeff Thanks, I'm good. A bit tired, must be the spring. How are you? I hope I can get to the Keitelejazz show in July. Keitele is a very small village and my mother was born there. Remember a couple of trips there as a kid. |
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Post by tootull on May 30, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -5
Re: So What Do YOU Think?
I can't believe Ian believes his own words.
And it's only the giving that makes you what you are.
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Post by TM on May 31, 2011 10:26:43 GMT -5
I think I need a DVD or two from Jeffrey era.  Imagine if we had this technology back in 1972 or so. Everyone would be posting their videos of all the great Tull tours. That would be something. |
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