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Post by Gerald Bostock on Jan 5, 2012 14:29:56 GMT -5
I just dug out my vinyl copy of "Stormwatch" which I don't have on CD, and was pleasantly surprised at what a great album it is. It's the last with my favourite lineup, and every song is 100% meat with no filler. I'm surprised it hasn't been fêted he at all. Am I its only fan? BY Dun Ringill!!!
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Post by Icy Lucifer on Jan 5, 2012 14:51:15 GMT -5
Hi Gerald,
Where have you been these last forty years? Are you bringing out a lavish, ultra-expensive programme for your tour next year? I think you might be.
Anyway.....
Stormwatch...one of my favourite Tull LPs - still got it - but play the CD quite often. Funny how the relevance of 'Dark Ages' and 'Something's on The Move' echo down over the 33 (!) years. 'Elegy' - such a lovely track.
When the LP came out in the UK we had economic catastrophe, environmental crisis, an Afghan war, and Iran threatening to close the Straits of Hormuz. So no change there then. The LP reminds me of these times. If you can find it there is an excellent bootleg of the Stormwatch tour - 'Somethings on the Move' I think its called. Worth checking out if you can find it. They play more or less the whole album. I've got the CD somewhere.
regards
icyL
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Jan 5, 2012 21:43:13 GMT -5
Get the remaster. The bonus tracks really compliment the album
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Post by Gerald Bostock on Jan 6, 2012 3:10:52 GMT -5
Hi Gerald, Where have you been these last forty years? Are you bringing out a lavish, ultra-expensive programme for your tour next year? I think you might be. Anyway..... Stormwatch...one of my favourite Tull LPs - still got it - but play the CD quite often. Funny how the relevance of 'Dark Ages' and 'Something's on The Move' echo down over the 33 (!) years. 'Elegy' - such a lovely track. When the LP came out in the UK we had economic catastrophe, environmental crisis, an Afghan war, and Iran threatening to close the Straits of Hormuz. So no change there then. The LP reminds me of these times. If you can find it there is an excellent bootleg of the Stormwatch tour - 'Somethings on the Move' I think its called. Worth checking out if you can find it. They play more or less the whole album. I've got the CD somewhere. regards icyL Good tip. I found one called "Watchers on the storm" which has a lot of Stormcock - might that be it?
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Post by My God on Jan 6, 2012 11:04:46 GMT -5
Get the remaster. The bonus tracks really compliment the album I have the remaster. Sounds Great! Lost pages, better not read.
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Post by Nonfatman on Jan 6, 2012 12:55:27 GMT -5
Hi Gerald, Where have you been these last forty years? Are you bringing out a lavish, ultra-expensive programme for your tour next year? I think you might be. Anyway..... Stormwatch...one of my favourite Tull LPs - still got it - but play the CD quite often. Funny how the relevance of 'Dark Ages' and 'Something's on The Move' echo down over the 33 (!) years. 'Elegy' - such a lovely track. When the LP came out in the UK we had economic catastrophe, environmental crisis, an Afghan war, and Iran threatening to close the Straits of Hormuz. So no change there then. The LP reminds me of these times. If you can find it there is an excellent bootleg of the Stormwatch tour - 'Somethings on the Move' I think its called. Worth checking out if you can find it. They play more or less the whole album. I've got the CD somewhere. regards icyL Good tip. I found one called "Watchers on the storm" which has a lot of Stormcock - might that be it? Hi, Gerald, and welcome here! Stormcock? I must have missed that album. ;D Jeff
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Post by griffis on Jan 6, 2012 16:43:53 GMT -5
This may seem like sacrilege, but Stormwatch is, to me, the last truly great Tull album. There are songs on albums subsequent to Stormwatch that I really love, peppered throughout the band's later discography, but for me everything up through Stormwatch is absolutely essential. After that point it gets spottier. Only Crest of a Knave is anywhere near as solid as a cohesive album as anything from Stormwatch back to This Was.
Just personal opinion of course. But in some ways Tull after the 70s just aren't the same band to my mind and ears.
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Post by Conundrum on Jan 6, 2012 18:09:35 GMT -5
This may seem like sacrilege, but Stormwatch is, to me, the last truly great Tull album. There are songs on albums subsequent to Stormwatch that I really love, peppered throughout the band's later discography, but for me everything up through Stormwatch is absolutely essential. After that point it gets spottier. Only Crest of a Knave is anywhere near as solid as a cohesive album as anything from Stormwatch back to This Was. Just personal opinion of course. But in some ways Tull after the 70s just aren't the same band to my mind and ears. Not sacrilege at all. I agree 100%. In fact, for a long time, I was not interested in any post Stormwatch Tull. I do think it was the last really g reat album they ever made.
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Post by Icy Lucifer on Jan 7, 2012 7:57:30 GMT -5
This may seem like sacrilege, but Stormwatch is, to me, the last truly great Tull album. There are songs on albums subsequent to Stormwatch that I really love, peppered throughout the band's later discography, but for me everything up through Stormwatch is absolutely essential. After that point it gets spottier. Only Crest of a Knave is anywhere near as solid as a cohesive album as anything from Stormwatch back to This Was. Just personal opinion of course. But in some ways Tull after the 70s just aren't the same band to my mind and ears. Not sacrilege at all. I agree 100%. In fact, for a long time, I was not interested in any post Stormwatch Tull. I do think it was the last really g reat album they ever made. I always thought of Stormwatch as a Minstrel in The Gallery follow-up. icyL
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Post by My God on Jan 7, 2012 11:27:49 GMT -5
This may seem like sacrilege, but Stormwatch is, to me, the last truly great Tull album. There are songs on albums subsequent to Stormwatch that I really love, peppered throughout the band's later discography, but for me everything up through Stormwatch is absolutely essential. After that point it gets spottier. Only Crest of a Knave is anywhere near as solid as a cohesive album as anything from Stormwatch back to This Was. Just personal opinion of course. But in some ways Tull after the 70s just aren't the same band to my mind and ears. Yes, I still miss the 70's Tull as well. Just have to take it as it comes. In the shuffling madness of the locomotive breath.
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Post by jtul07 on Jan 7, 2012 12:56:41 GMT -5
StormwatchTrack listing All songs composed by Ian Anderson except where noted. [edit] Side one 1."North Sea Oil" – 3:12 2."Orion" – 3:58 3."Home" – 2:46 4."Dark Ages" – 9:13 5."Warm Sporran" (Instrumental) – 3:33 [edit] Side two 1."Something's on the Move" – 4:27 2."Old Ghosts" – 4:23 3."Dun Ringill" – 2:41 4."Flying Dutchman" – 7:46 5."Elegy" (Instrumental, David Palmer) – 3:38 [edit] Bonus tracks The remastered CD added bonus tracks that were on the 20 Years of Jethro Tull boxed set and extensive liner notes: 11."A Stitch in Time" – 3:40 12."Crossword" – 3:38 13."Kelpie" – 3:37 14."King Henry's Madrigal" (King Henry VIII)– 3:01 Not a bad song anywhere on this album. "Elegy" may have been a slight out of place. When you finish an album you want to finish on a HIGH note, not a sad one.(mood) At least the bonus tracks do that years later. ;D
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Post by Morthoron on Jan 7, 2012 15:25:02 GMT -5
The end of an era. Decidedly so. Granted, Jethro Tull has always been Ian Anderson, but I think the fundamental character (and characters) of the band changed dramatically after this, and not for the good. Of course, I am a curmudgeonly old fart, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Post by Geoff CB on Jan 8, 2012 15:35:01 GMT -5
I just dug out my vinyl copy of "Stormwatch" which I don't have on CD, and was pleasantly surprised at what a great album it is. It's the last with my favourite lineup, and every song is 100% meat with no filler. I'm surprised it hasn't been fêted he at all. Am I its only fan? BY Dun Ringill!!! More homework! I'll have to compare the vinyl and remastered CD. Crest on vinyl was a pleasant surprise, so i hope this is too. Some great tracks, but I always thought it was a little uneven - due to John Glascock being ill? Too bad Peggy didn't play on this one. I will report back!
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Post by Geoff CB on Jan 13, 2012 18:43:38 GMT -5
More homework! I'll have to compare the vinyl and remastered CD. Crest on vinyl was a pleasant surprise, so i hope this is too. Some great tracks, but I always thought it was a little uneven - due to John Glascock being ill? Too bad Peggy didn't play on this one. I will report back! I've compared side 1 of the LP with the CD remaster. This is one case where the CD is mostly superior sonically. On the CD the bass is better (if a tad muddy) and it's less noisy. However I think the upper highs are still better on the vinyl - the CD sounds "brick-walled". Side 2 to come! Tech note: I've compared the CD using my player's inbuilt A-D converter and also using the A-D in my AV Receiver through HDMI. The player sounded a tiny bit better. My vinyl always sounds good as I use a Shibata stylus which reaches deep into the grooves.
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Post by tootull on Jan 14, 2012 11:45:45 GMT -5
More homework! I'll have to compare the vinyl and remastered CD. Crest on vinyl was a pleasant surprise, so i hope this is too. Some great tracks, but I always thought it was a little uneven - due to John Glascock being ill? Too bad Peggy didn't play on this one. I will report back! I've compared side 1 of the LP with the CD remaster. This is one case where the CD is mostly superior sonically. On the CD the bass is better (if a tad muddy) and it's less noisy. However I think the upper highs are still better on the vinyl - the CD sounds "brick-walled". Side 2 to come! Tech note: I've compared the CD using my player's inbuilt A-D converter and also using the A-D in my AV Receiver through HDMI. The player sounded a tiny bit better. My vinyl always sounds good as I use a Shibata stylus which reaches deep into the grooves.Are you a member at SHtv? Good God! LOL Did you know that someone (name escapes me at the moment) from Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs is responsible for most of the early Tull CDs? The ones that sound the best...maybe. Still searching for the definitive answer. I like the Stormwatch remaster at lower levels. It is interesting to listen to the original CD knowing that Jethro Tull studio tapes are considered flat (dull to some), I would never get rid of the original CD as this could be the real deal in sound, same goes for my vinyl copy. I can turn them up louder than the remaster without sounding over driven. Parts are pushed too high on the remaster. The remaster was my favourite until I drifted back to the original CD due to recommendations from others. You might think the remaster shows more detail (I did), but if you listen closely enough it's all there on all versions, just flatter on the original LP & CD. s1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/tootull/?action=view¤t=jtullstormwatchLP.jpg This Canadian vinyl has lots of atmosphere. It's difficult to part with any of these three. My top Tull album for atmosphere. Canadian LP from the first week of release USA original CD EU remaster
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Post by Warchild Tsunami on Jan 14, 2012 11:58:55 GMT -5
Last of the great tours,Warm Sporran played through the house system during tour right before show stated,saw that tour 6 times,was excellent.The first night when I heard that through system knew it was showtime!
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Post by tootull on Jan 14, 2012 12:07:58 GMT -5
I was at Dave Pegg's Tull debut on the Stormwatch tour. Interesting night. A great atmosphere. It was a déjà vu night. www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/79.htm5/10/79 Maple Leaf Gardens Toronto, Canada Live In Toronto 1979 Support: UK. Dave Pegg's Tull debut. Intro (incl. Warm Sporran (tape))/Dark Ages, Home, Orion, Flying Dutchman, Old Ghosts, Elegy, Dun Ringill, Something's On The Move, Aqualung, King Henry's Madrigal/Drum Solo, Heavy Horses, No Lullaby/Flute Solo (w. flute solo, incl. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Kelpie, Bourée), Keyboard Solo (Bach's The Well-Tempered Clavier), Songs From The Wood, Jams O'Donnell's Jigs, Thick As A Brick, Too Old To Rock'N'Roll..., Cross-Eyed Mary, Guitar Solo, Minstrel In The Gallery/Locomotive Breath/Dambusters March/Minstrel In The Gallery (reprise), Orchestral Warchild (prerecorded (from 'A Classic Case'), played as audience left).
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Post by flutestobranches on Jan 14, 2012 12:59:41 GMT -5
I love a lot of post 1979 Tull, but "Stormwatch" has always been one of my top five albums. It's definitely underrated; a musical AND visual treat. The artwork is amongst the best to ever grace a Tull album. I would love a T-shirt featuring the polar bear!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 18:27:47 GMT -5
Definitely one of Tull's best and most interesting. I used to listen to it all the time--it used to be my favorite. Very wintery, northern scotland chill throughout it (and I'm not just talking about Dun Ringill).
Now I don't think it's as well put together as Songs from the Wood or Heavy Horses, but DEFINITELY not one to be looked over. Dark Ages is still one of the best Tull rockers to me. Some people can't stand it for some reason.
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Post by Oldghost on Feb 5, 2012 20:51:54 GMT -5
After brilliant musical twins SFTW and HH , Stormwatch at the time of release appeared to me as a bit of stagnation and it probably really was. But on the other hand, I`m realizing just now, how this album perfectly stood the test of time and it gives me much more musical enjoyment nowadays than it did before. My personal favourite from this one is Dun Ringill.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 8:49:28 GMT -5
Just listened to Stormwatch for the first time in awhile and realized how much I missed listening to it. For me the gem is Orion. This was a darker album for Tull for many reasons. I think with the illness of John Glasscock it was destined to be that way. Also the subject matter in a lot of the songs where of some gloomy subjects. Ian I think has a crystal ball, he has written so many songs that are still in the news today..religion,oil,,hunger,home less, etc. Another point of this album is that Ian play bass guitar on a lot of tracks. On tour it was Dave Pegg's start into Jethro Tull. Also it was the last as some say greatest Tull line up. So it was an end to an era.
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Post by Oldghost on Feb 7, 2012 12:09:33 GMT -5
Mentioning Orion.....I think the highlight of this recording are David Palmer`s string arrangements. They fit in the verse so perfectly. And then, this reminds me how much I miss Palmer`s brilliant contributions to Tull music. I dare to say that many Tull recordings wouldn`t sound so perfect if he (she) wasn`t there.
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