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Post by Icy Lucifer on Jan 7, 2012 15:22:18 GMT -5
Inspired by this board to play an old bootleg from the Stormwatch tour, I then played quite a few others. So, if we can’t get a new Tull album, in these cold, bleak, miserable, bankrupt, war-torn mid-winter days, why not console yourself with a ‘new’ Tull bootleg? Here are my top 5 – they’re all double CDs with decent sound - with a few comments as to why they are special for me. Fantastic memories. Ok, we can all find out about these on collectingtull.com, or find them on your favourite online auction site (or via a torrent, whatever the hell THAT is - see links below...) My Top Five1. Completely Under Wraps - from ’84 of course and the first time I saw Tull live. At the now demolished Glasgow Apollo. Incredible show. 2. Curious Riff from 95. Outstanding sound quality – best ever. Roots and Branches was played constantly in the car when I was working on a driving job all over the Scottish Highlands. Fantastic tour seen in Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. 3. House of Blues from 99, and the much under-rated Dot Com. Great stuff. Saw the band in Glasgow again. Do you see a pattern here? 4. Upper Darby The comeback tour of 87. Another great live show I saw this time in Edinburgh. 5. Tales from The Crystal Flute I missed the 89 tour through illness but saw almost the same set in 90 when Tull played smaller UK venues. This time in Livingston, a ‘new town' between Glasgow and Edinburgh. Couple of links for you if you don’t already know them… www.collecting-tull.com/vivalesbootlegs.blogspot.com/2010/10/jethro-tull-curious-riff-cirkus.htmlHave fun. I did. icyL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 3:28:46 GMT -5
Inspired by this board to play an old bootleg from the Stormwatch tour, I then played quite a few others. So, if we can’t get a new Tull album, in these cold, bleak, miserable, bankrupt, war-torn mid-winter days, why not console yourself with a ‘new’ Tull bootleg? Here are my top 5 – they’re all double CDs with decent sound - with a few comments as to why they are special for me. Fantastic memories. Ok, we can all find out about these on collectingtull.com, or find them on your favourite online auction site (or via a torrent, whatever the hell THAT is - see links below...) My Top Five1. Completely Under Wraps - from ’84 of course and the first time I saw Tull live. At the now demolished Glasgow Apollo. Incredible show. 2. Curious Riff from 95. Outstanding sound quality – best ever. Roots and Branches was played constantly in the car when I was working on a driving job all over the Scottish Highlands. Fantastic tour seen in Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. 3. House of Blues from 99, and the much under-rated Dot Com. Great stuff. Saw the band in Glasgow again. Do you see a pattern here? 4. Upper Darby The comeback tour of 87. Another great live show I saw this time in Edinburgh. 5. Tales from The Crystal Flute I missed the 89 tour through illness but saw almost the same set in 90 when Tull played smaller UK venues. This time in Livingston, a ‘new town' between Glasgow and Edinburgh. Couple of links for you if you don’t already know them… www.collecting-tull.com/vivalesbootlegs.blogspot.com/2010/10/jethro-tull-curious-riff-cirkus.htmlHave fun. I did. icyL Thank You icyL, first for your decision NOT to talk about the "Big Tull Break-Up" that has not been announced and next for your inspired decision to post this great thread with some excellent choices of some fine playing! I have been self-medicating for years while waiting for "official" offerings. Not to mention that from the beginning Tull was a live act that did things on stage that you couldn't get while listening to the entirely different art of the studio recording. The first boot I heard was "My God" (Devonshire Downs May 1970) with the then infamous flute solo. We were in awe of this, it was the holy grail for Tull fans and so underground. So after seeing them for the first time in 1971 I realized that the "Bootleg" had a great value, as bad as they sometimes sounded (!) Tull was so different live. Which used to be a good thing. Now days they seem to lean on reproducing the songs as they sound on the recordings. I don't no why....because I have that at home and I just paid good money to see it done the same way? So "UnTull." Fortunately each year after my 71 initiation there was something to be found, usually at a swap meet, and some of the boots became regular favorites and staples in my library. Keep in mind these were vinyl and limited to 45 min. so some editing was usually involved. Never a whole show and most always not in the proper song order. So unless it was an expensive double album you couldn't get the true flavor, just a taste of what you remembered. In the last few years a lot of these have reappeared as whole shows...that to me is almost...and I said almost, like getting a new album released! You have some excellent examples there, a couple, I have may not have heard. In the last few years I have been listing mine by date because of the confusing titling at times, there are many My Gods and Nothing is Easy's! So although many people here are very well versed in these titles I'd like to offer up my own five. For those that are not familiar with these, they are very important pieces of Tull history. If you have somehow, for whatever reason, limited yourself to the studio albums, you have some illumination coming your way because live Tull was not what we see on Top o the Pops far from it. It's the reason that old buggers like me are still fans, even after DotCom... (Did I say that? I'm sorry that just slipped out LOL) If you dont have these....find them. You will feel better afterward. 1. "My God" or "Rave Up" Feb 1972 Essen Germany. Late Aqualung tour that includes a good bit of the newly recorded yet unreleased TAAB. Great show, alot of humor and banter between songs, everyone in fine form. Almost a whole show, no encore though 2."Ticketron" April 1972 Scope, Virginia. The first half of TAAB (edited) but most importantly it has the Encore: Wind Up/guitar solo/Locomotive Breath/Hard Headed English Generals/Wind-Up reprise. This was the epitome of live Tull. Martin Barre plays THEE most inspired solo. I have a lot of 72 recordings and the whole shows are very important to have but the sound and playing on this are the best. (This of course.....is just my opinion.....but it's the best ) NOTE: The last five notes of Martins solo coincide with the first two piano notes on Locomotive breath. A bit of a musical "joke" between Barre and Evans that they carried forward for years. I just love that stuff... 3."Supercharged" July 1973 LA This is still for me the best sounding boot of APP (and you can hear me in the audience along with the other 19,800 or so people!) 4. "Seattle 1975" (I haven't got it front of me for dates and the possible original title) The best whole show for the Warchild tour that I've heard. This was an absolute circus of a show, a lot of humor, great playing. 5. "A Sackful of Trousersnakes" April 1977 Anahiem Convention Center, LA. This is by far the most off the hook recording of the Songs From the Wood tour. It was a beautifully crafted set of songs they ever did, starting off with 4 or 5 acoustic songs and the intensity just kept rising to another fantastic head splitting encore. This was BIG Tull at it's most refined.They didn't get much better. As a matter of fact, because of this boot, Bursting Out was a disappointment! (and once again listen for me in the audience...I'm the one smiling) So there it is, my favorite five...for the 70s (I heard they were really "neat" back then!!!) Enjoy Darin Cody
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Jan 8, 2012 4:18:01 GMT -5
How could anything be as good as Watchers of the storm. This is one of the best boots of all time
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 18:43:19 GMT -5
How could anything be as good as Watchers of the storm. This is one of the best boots of all time I was in no way discounting "Watchers..." It's great. But that makes 6! LOL I was just pointing out some basic foundational "must haves" Storm Watch is one of my favorite albums. And jim, Elegy is a perfect ending for that album IMO. Ian always said quiet goodbyes...It's not a JP album lol! Check most of Tulls studio albums for that....Concerts too btw. Darin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 19:41:38 GMT -5
So far these are some nice picks. I would have to start right off the bat with 2 from 1971 that come to mind. Berkeley from June 71 and Boston Gardens from Nov 71. The Berkeley Community Theater show is just wild. To see Tull show around this time would be comparable to being hit by a semi-truck. Aqualung material is sparkling fresh and Ian's perfect voice just rips through you. This is how Ian and Tull are supposed to sound and saying it's a contrast from these days is a enormous understatement. My tape is only 42mins long but Wind Up is 15 minutes! and the sound is pretty clear. This has been one of favs for many years. Listen to this Aqualung! Can you believe Ian's voice! And a few months later we have not as clear of a recording but what a setlist! The show opened with My God>flute>Bouree>God Rest> Into one of the first ever Thick As A Brick (poet and the painter through all the jam section) This of course before anyone ever heard TAAB..then a monster medley of To Cry You A Song> A New Day Yesterday> Cross-Eyed Mary> Up To Me> Tomorrow Was Today> Hymn 43> Nothing Is Easy+Wind Up, guitar solo>Locomotive. Wow! Here is the section from Up To Me thru Hymn 43 The Thick as A Brick from Japan was always a favorite as was the Passion Play from Milwaukee as it had at least 10-15 minutes of the intro which is great for building the anticipation I haven't heard a passion play boot that quality wise ever blew me away they have all been alright. 3 quality favorites of mine include Watchers on the Storm of course but also LA 77 Sound Board quality and LA 80 Which when I received my copy it was a second generation from Mark Craney's soundboard copy. Great set and unbelievable quality! So many more.. but would love to see some high quality or soundboard Passion Play turn up more than anything!
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Post by Illoman on Jan 8, 2012 20:30:19 GMT -5
5. "A Sackful of Trousersnakes" April 1977 Anahiem Convention Center, LA. This is by far the most off the hook recording of the Songs From the Wood tour. It was a beautifully crafted set of songs they ever did, starting off with 4 or 5 acoustic songs and the intensity just kept rising to another fantastic head splitting encore. This was BIG Tull at it's most refined.They didn't get much better. As a matter of fact, because of this boot, Bursting Out was a disappointment! (and once again listen for me in the audience...I'm the one smiling) So there it is, my favorite five...for the 70s (I heard they were really "neat" back then!!!) Enjoy Darin Cody Darin, could not agree more with you about Sackful. This was my very first Tull bootleg, which I purchased in a used record store on vinyl in the late 70's. This has great Ian banter/jokes, and the audience is totally into the band! One of the "chill bumps" moments for me on this particular tour, has always been when Ian plays Thick as a Brick, and he gets to the flute part, which is the first time he's played the flute during this show. The crowd goes nuts!! Martin's solo is fantastic! I used to work third shift, and could bring in cassette tapes to play over the store's loud speakers. One night I brought in Sackful. I started it with Martin's solo, and someone asked me if it was Hendrix! True story. And I agree Bursting Out was a let down for me as well, due mainly to this bootleg. Mike
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Post by rredmond on Jan 9, 2012 4:48:52 GMT -5
I guess the torrent or peer-sharing websites are the best place to find digital copies of this stuff. I have three cherished bootlegs, now in the garage since my car (with my only tape deck) broke down. Sorry for the I-don't-know question, but I'm a social worker not a internets-surfer guy.
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Post by Illoman on Jan 9, 2012 11:30:02 GMT -5
I guess the torrent or peer-sharing websites are the best place to find digital copies of this stuff. I have three cherished bootlegs, now in the garage since my car (with my only tape deck) broke down. Sorry for the I-don't-know question, but I'm a social worker not a internets-surfer guy. Here's a great place to start: aqualung-mygod.blogspot.com/2011/04/jethro-tull-nu-rarest-on-road.html
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Post by rredmond on Jan 9, 2012 12:49:40 GMT -5
Thanks! I hate rar and torrent thingies!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2012 15:42:41 GMT -5
"Hello my name is Arnold Stirrup!, (Stir-Up get it?) and I'm the support act for the evening. I'm going to begin with one of Jethro's favorite songs which he would play himself if he were here....." My "goosebump" moment on that boot is also during TAAB, right after "Your deafness a shout" Baaaamp! The first time after 15 or so minutes that the full band takes to their respective instruments and it is such a perfect hit! It kind of signals...OK here we go...... I also agree about Ian's first playing of the flute too......seemed everybody was waiting for it! How can a band be soooo popular and concerts so heavily attended and virtually disappear from rock history........? Leaves me a little cold, I was there. I saw it! It was a big deal.....wasn't it? Darin As it slips to the far and wide of me........
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Post by TM on Jan 9, 2012 16:54:11 GMT -5
"Hello my name is Arnold Stirrup!, (Stir-Up get it?) and I'm the support act for the evening. I'm going to begin with one of Jethro's favorite songs which he would play himself if he were here....." My "goosebump" moment on that boot is also during TAAB, right after "Your deafness a shout" Baaaamp! The first time after 15 or so minutes that the full band takes to their respective instruments and it is such a perfect hit! It kind of signals...OK here we go...... I also agree about Ian's first playing of the flute too......seemed everybody was waiting for it! How can a band be soooo popular and concerts so heavily attended and virtually disappear from rock history........? Leaves me a little cold, I was there. I saw it! It was a big deal.....wasn't it? Darin As it slips to the far and wide of me........ Yes it was. Trousersnakes was an unbelievable listen and by far my all time favorite. bootleg. I missed out seeing Tull in 1977, but after hearing this show I knew I wouldn't miss them again when they came around. The song selection, the mood, the banter...it's all great. And the crowd noise really enhances the listening experience, compared to the more polished Bursting Out, which crowd noise is kept to a minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 10:25:21 GMT -5
I have been listening to the 16/1/77 Reflections Through The Glass Chandelier or With Kitchen Prose... Dorothy Chandler Pavilion
It is pretty awesome, I am sure I will listen to another one soon and will change my mind.
The Scope 72 I think Darin sums that up
Boston 76 (there are a few out there, but the one I have is the complete show and it is awesome) 2nd time I saw Tull. it was in the Garden and it was notorious for poor sound. There is a Dan Lampinsky version of this show that is pretty damn good.
Seattle 75 A Great tour and this recording it has pretty good sound.
There are so many shows to choose from, I do not necessarily go for the best sounding. There are some that the sound might be crap but has a historical or sentimental value. I find extremely hard to judge sound because what might sound good to some might sound like garbage to someone else. Lets not forget that these are 30plus year old recordings. the place that Tull played in the US where not concert hall, they wher hockey arenas, and sound and acoustics were not given much thought.
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Post by martinbarreshat on Feb 1, 2012 0:18:17 GMT -5
I guess the torrent or peer-sharing websites are the best place to find digital copies of this stuff. I'm surprised that their is no Jethro Tull dedicated torrent site like their is for artists like Genesis, Frank Zappa and Jimi Hendrix. It would make finding live recordings so much easier.
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Post by martinbarreshat on Feb 1, 2012 4:09:50 GMT -5
I guess the torrent or peer-sharing websites are the best place to find digital copies of this stuff. I have three cherished bootlegs, now in the garage since my car (with my only tape deck) broke down. Sorry for the I-don't-know question, but I'm a social worker not a internets-surfer guy. Here's a great place to start: aqualung-mygod.blogspot.com/2011/04/jethro-tull-nu-rarest-on-road.htmlSadly that blog is closed. That's my problem with Jethro Tull bootlegs. It's so hard to find them. For example I can't find the 'A Sackful of Trousersnakes' bootleg anywhere to download.
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Post by My God on Feb 1, 2012 11:43:41 GMT -5
Sadly that blog is closed. That's my problem with Jethro Tull bootlegs. It's so hard to find them. For example I can't find the 'A Sackful of Trousersnakes' bootleg anywhere to download. Try btjunkie.com. They have it. And you laugh so ruthlessly, as you tell us what not to be.
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Post by rredmond on Feb 1, 2012 14:14:59 GMT -5
There needs to be a super secret off shoot of these board where MP3s can be shared with impugnity!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 16:48:24 GMT -5
Ssssh!, if we told people about it, we 'd have to kill them
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 2:20:15 GMT -5
I did find a nice video on youtube featuring audio from the 1977 Tull bootleg "Down to Earth" I like the sound quality:
Some fun musings by Ian in the beginning, though most of us have probably already heard it.
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Post by rredmond on Feb 21, 2012 5:10:15 GMT -5
Nope, didn't hear this, thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 7:50:03 GMT -5
This from the February 5 1977 Manchester show, there is also bootleg goes by the name Songs From Manchester
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Post by My God on Feb 21, 2012 9:10:17 GMT -5
This from the February 5 1977 Manchester show, there is also bootleg goes by the name Songs From Manchester I'll go with Sackful of Trowsersnakes for now. Lover of the black and white, it's your first night.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 1:09:04 GMT -5
No problem rredmond! This from the February 5 1977 Manchester show, there is also bootleg goes by the name Songs From Manchester Good ear Is Songs From Manchester a good recording?
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Post by Mttbsh on Feb 24, 2012 22:19:19 GMT -5
The Manchester Feb 5, 1977 recording is mostly superb. It is a soundboard.
The first half hour, throughTAAB sounds as good as any officially released live album from the 70s. Songs from the Wood though Velvet Green seems to lose the wide stereo speration and depth, but the superb sound quality returns for TOTRR, Beethoven's 9th, Minstrel, Aqualung, Wind up and Backdoor Angels. Locomotive Breath again seems compressed. Not sure why the the sound gives way in certain parts. Also, no Crosseyed Mary! I can' imagine that they didn't play it as it is on every other 77 Tull show I've heard.
There is no other 1977 Tull recording that even comes close to this sound quality, not Hippodrome 77, Trousersnakes, even the next year's official Bursting Out doesn't sound as good. I tweaked it a bit with an equalizer to make it even better. Oh, and the band is ON, playing magnificently.
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Post by rredmond on Feb 25, 2012 8:11:05 GMT -5
But no MP3s anywhere?
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Post by My God on Feb 25, 2012 10:57:00 GMT -5
But no MP3s anywhere? I used to say ''A Sackful of Trowsersnakes'', but now ''A Passion Play'' live. It lists under ''All your rich attainments are imagined''. Ripe with rich attainments, all imagined.
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