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Post by Nonfatman on May 7, 2012 16:42:39 GMT -5
There is an 800 lb gorilla in the room that nobody is talking about (unless I missed it, but I don't think so.).
We should not be afraid to discuss it. Can anyone guess what I am talking about?
Jeff
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Post by Wichitadan on May 7, 2012 17:32:34 GMT -5
Is it the "end" of JT as a band with the exclusion of Doane and Martin?
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Post by jtul07 on May 7, 2012 17:33:06 GMT -5
There is an 800 lb gorilla in the room that nobody is talking about (unless I missed it, but I don't think so.). We should not be afraid to discuss it. Can anyone guess what I am talking about? Jeff Is this discussion about whether Martin is coming back or whether Ian is going to retire? Or is this about whether Ryan O'Donnell is now a member of "Ian and his Chums" formerly Jethro Tull?. |
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Post by Zombywoof on May 7, 2012 18:53:31 GMT -5
So what is it? Greg Lake joined the board?
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Post by jtul07 on May 7, 2012 19:31:04 GMT -5
So what is it? Greg Lake joined the board? Please no obesity jokes. I need to lose some too. |
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Post by Zombywoof on May 7, 2012 19:44:37 GMT -5
So what is it? Greg Lake joined the board? Please no obesity jokes. I need to lose some too. As do I. That makes it alright!! ;D |
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Post by TM on May 7, 2012 21:11:21 GMT -5
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Post by jtul07 on May 7, 2012 21:21:30 GMT -5
Martin has joined The Stones and Keith Richards has joined Tull.  And Roger Waters said he was sorry to David Gilmour.  |
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Post by tootull on May 8, 2012 8:12:57 GMT -5
Gorilla? ;D Here's the elephant in the room. Unless that hard rock album is labeled Jethro Tull. This is the end of Jethro Tull. www.themortonreport.com/entertainment/music/sex-politics-and-death-ian-anderson-on-thick-as-a-brick2-part-three/Ian Anderson - The projects I’m working on this year, well, essentially there are three things that I’m working towards. One of them, there’s a bit of a start made already, which is an album of essentially string quartet music of Jethro Tull repertoire, done by a string quartet with my input, playing the flute. And that’s something I’m working on in collaboration with our keyboard player, John O’Hara. So, we’ve arranged some stuff already, and we will do that. And doubtless it will be played at people’s weddings and funerals. It won’t be a high profile, high selling album, but it will be a very, very nice way of listening to Jethro Tull’s mainstream repertoire in a context that is, I think, creatively different. So, that’s something we’re working on. And I have in mind to do some real singer-songwriter material[/b]. I mean something really striped down to being just guitar and voice for the most part, and very little else—just really, really minimal stuff. That obviously requires writing the music, and being energized to write the music, and may well have a sort of conceptual thing behind it, but it’s a little early to say what that might be, musically. And I have one other project which I would really set aside for probably 2013, which is kind of a hard rock album. I wouldn’t mind just doing…well, I suppose you might say, justifying that hard rock/heavy metal Grammy that we won all those years ago. [Laughs] Maybe the time has come to actually say, “You know? All right, maybe we are a hard rock/metal band.” I think I’d quite like to do one that’s kind of that full-on raging music. But whether I want to another whole album, or maybe just do a big 20-minute song, I don’t know. But those are three projects that I have in mind, and that’s a couple of years’ worth of work, really. I don’t think it’s wise for me to look much beyond that at the moment, especially since 2013 touring will probably take us on down into the southern hemisphere, and may well bring us back to the USA the early summer of 2013. It’s quite a long time to look ahead itself. But cast your thoughts forward from that to 2014 and ’15, that’s probably about… My god, what will I be then? I’ll be 68 in 2015, and I would think if I make 70 as a professional musician, I’d be pretty pleased. And, these days, with the miracles of modern science, who knows? It could even go on a bit longer. |
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Post by My God on May 8, 2012 8:57:15 GMT -5
Gorilla? ;D Here's the elephant in the room. Unless that hard rock album is labeled Jethro Tull. This is the end of Jethro Tull. www.themortonreport.com/entertainment/music/sex-politics-and-death-ian-anderson-on-thick-as-a-brick2-part-three/Ian Anderson - The projects I’m working on this year, well, essentially there are three things that I’m working towards. One of them, there’s a bit of a start made already, which is an album of essentially string quartet music of Jethro Tull repertoire, done by a string quartet with my input, playing the flute. And that’s something I’m working on in collaboration with our keyboard player, John O’Hara. So, we’ve arranged some stuff already, and we will do that. And doubtless it will be played at people’s weddings and funerals. It won’t be a high profile, high selling album, but it will be a very, very nice way of listening to Jethro Tull’s mainstream repertoire in a context that is, I think, creatively different. So, that’s something we’re working on. And I have in mind to do some real singer-songwriter material[/b]. I mean something really striped down to being just guitar and voice for the most part, and very little else—just really, really minimal stuff. That obviously requires writing the music, and being energized to write the music, and may well have a sort of conceptual thing behind it, but it’s a little early to say what that might be, musically. And I have one other project which I would really set aside for probably 2013, which is kind of a hard rock album. I wouldn’t mind just doing…well, I suppose you might say, justifying that hard rock/heavy metal Grammy that we won all those years ago. [Laughs] Maybe the time has come to actually say, “You know? All right, maybe we are a hard rock/metal band.” I think I’d quite like to do one that’s kind of that full-on raging music. But whether I want to another whole album, or maybe just do a big 20-minute song, I don’t know. But those are three projects that I have in mind, and that’s a couple of years’ worth of work, really. I don’t think it’s wise for me to look much beyond that at the moment, especially since 2013 touring will probably take us on down into the southern hemisphere, and may well bring us back to the USA the early summer of 2013. It’s quite a long time to look ahead itself. But cast your thoughts forward from that to 2014 and ’15, that’s probably about… My god, what will I be then? I’ll be 68 in 2015, and I would think if I make 70 as a professional musician, I’d be pretty pleased. And, these days, with the miracles of modern science, who knows? It could even go on a bit longer. [/quote] A new Tull performance / album in 2013. Maybe a stop in North Carolina? You never know.  ....you poor old sod, you see, it's only, me. |
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Post by TM on May 8, 2012 9:27:26 GMT -5
Gorilla? ;D Here's the elephant in the room. Unless that hard rock album is labeled Jethro Tull. This is the end of Jethro Tull. www.themortonreport.com/entertainment/music/sex-politics-and-death-ian-anderson-on-thick-as-a-brick2-part-three/Ian Anderson - The projects I’m working on this year, well, essentially there are three things that I’m working towards. One of them, there’s a bit of a start made already, which is an album of essentially string quartet music of Jethro Tull repertoire, done by a string quartet with my input, playing the flute. And that’s something I’m working on in collaboration with our keyboard player, John O’Hara. So, we’ve arranged some stuff already, and we will do that. And doubtless it will be played at people’s weddings and funerals. It won’t be a high profile, high selling album, but it will be a very, very nice way of listening to Jethro Tull’s mainstream repertoire in a context that is, I think, creatively different. So, that’s something we’re working on. And I have in mind to do some real singer-songwriter material[/b]. I mean something really striped down to being just guitar and voice for the most part, and very little else—just really, really minimal stuff. That obviously requires writing the music, and being energized to write the music, and may well have a sort of conceptual thing behind it, but it’s a little early to say what that might be, musically. And I have one other project which I would really set aside for probably 2013, which is kind of a hard rock album. I wouldn’t mind just doing…well, I suppose you might say, justifying that hard rock/heavy metal Grammy that we won all those years ago. [Laughs] Maybe the time has come to actually say, “You know? All right, maybe we are a hard rock/metal band.” I think I’d quite like to do one that’s kind of that full-on raging music. But whether I want to another whole album, or maybe just do a big 20-minute song, I don’t know. But those are three projects that I have in mind, and that’s a couple of years’ worth of work, really. I don’t think it’s wise for me to look much beyond that at the moment, especially since 2013 touring will probably take us on down into the southern hemisphere, and may well bring us back to the USA the early summer of 2013. It’s quite a long time to look ahead itself. But cast your thoughts forward from that to 2014 and ’15, that’s probably about… My god, what will I be then? I’ll be 68 in 2015, and I would think if I make 70 as a professional musician, I’d be pretty pleased. And, these days, with the miracles of modern science, who knows? It could even go on a bit longer. [/quote]  |
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Post by Zombywoof on May 8, 2012 10:01:27 GMT -5
This is one interview. I highly doubt that any of this will actually come to fruition if he's announced them before they were completed. Think of the WarChild film which was so heavily publicized. Also, does Anderson mention anything about these being solo records? Who wants a hard-rock Tull album without Martin, anyway ... NOT ME!!
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Post by flutestobranches on May 8, 2012 10:48:53 GMT -5
Hmmmm. Maybe I am an odd fan, but...
I've loved Tull since I was first exposed to them at the tender age of 10. I didn't understand all the lyrics back then, but I fell in love with the music. That was 33 years ago, and my love of Tull has never faltered. I've enjoyed all the concerts I've seen over the years, but, BUT...
Whenever Ian would leave the stage and allow Martin to do one of his showcase electric guitar instrumentals, it was never as interesting as Martin playing as part of an Anderson composition. When the electric guitar is center stage, Tull could almost be any other rock/hard rock band. One of the reasons I like Tull is because the band is unique, and that unique quality, really, is down to Ian Anderson. His acoustic leanings and lyrics (both serious and humorous) - plus the flute - really define Tull for me. So, while I have enjoyed Martin's contributions, and have respect for him as a musician, I have never felt that he was integral to the group. I would argue that the departures of John Evan and, more recently, Andrew Giddings, made far more of an impact on the group's sound than trading Martin for Florian.
Having said that, John O'Hara has really grown into his role and I'm enjoying his stuff immensely.
If you listen to some of the key early 1970s albums, some of them (Brick, Warchild) are far more reliant on piano/keyboards (particularly Brick) than guitar. After Ian, John Evan was arguably the most important member in those days. Maybe that's why Martin has eschewed a keyboardist on his tours this year. He's sick of coming in third??
Anyway, jusy my opinion. As long as Ian is making music, be it rock, folk, classical or even polka, I'll be listening.
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Post by tootull on May 8, 2012 12:23:54 GMT -5
Hmmmm. Maybe I am an odd fan, but... I've loved Tull since I was first exposed to them at the tender age of 10. I didn't understand all the lyrics back then, but I fell in love with the music. That was 33 years ago, and my love of Tull has never faltered. I've enjoyed all the concerts I've seen over the years, but, BUT... Whenever Ian would leave the stage and allow Martin to do one of his showcase electric guitar instrumentals, it was never as interesting as Martin playing as part of an Anderson composition. When the electric guitar is center stage, Tull could almost be any other rock/hard rock band. One of the reasons I like Tull is because the band is unique, and that unique quality, really, is down to Ian Anderson. His acoustic leanings and lyrics (both serious and humorous) - plus the flute - really define Tull for me. So, while I have enjoyed Martin's contributions, and have respect for him as a musician, I have never felt that he was integral to the group. I would argue that the departures of John Evan and, more recently, Andrew Giddings, made far more of an impact on the group's sound than trading Martin for Florian. Having said that, John O'Hara has really grown into his role and I'm enjoying his stuff immensely. If you listen to some of the key early 1970s albums, some of them (Brick, Warchild) are far more reliant on piano/keyboards (particularly Brick) than guitar. After Ian, John Evan was arguably the most important member in those days. Maybe that's why Martin has eschewed a keyboardist on his tours this year. He's sick of coming in third?? Anyway, jusy my opinion. As long as Ian is making music, be it rock, folk, classical or even polka, I'll be listening. -- David I agree with you for the most part. Although I've enjoyed Martin Barre, Jethro Tull is all about Ian Anderson for me. or even polka... that might be a problem. ha ha |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2012 13:25:47 GMT -5
I hear there's an 800lb Gorilla in the room? PFFFFT! I read that entire interview in AND, and when Ian said "they can just fuck off!" speaking of the people making a big deal about Martin needing to be included on TAAB2 and the tour for TAAB, I pretty much laughed out loud. Good for him. I myself was getting a bit tired of the back and forth about weather Tull was Tull without Martin. Tull has not been Tull for a veeeeery long time!!! That said, I'm probably one of the bigger Martin fans on this board. dave, the solo bits that Martin had on stage, particularly in the days of "Tull" where some of the big parts that made Tull so diverse, and aside from the flute solo, my favorite bits of the show. They rocked hard and loud, and not always in 4/4! These were electric bits that NO other rock outfit was doing. You need to get yourself some 70s boots. Roots to Branches is a good album......but it is a mere "birthday card" from a killer sexy woman I used to have a raging torrential love affair with. I saw the 40th Aqualung tour and it was good BUT it was like listening to the record NOT like seeing "Tull" AND MARTIN AND DOANE WERE THERE! In the days of Aqualung, they would veer off track, imbed solos in them, so much stuff I had never heard before! As a matter of fact that was one of the attractions, half the time I didn't know where they where going with a song.....and just at the right time, reprise or wind up (no pun) in another great tune. It kept you guessing and was designed to entertain, and that it did. I dont consider what I saw in 2011 a great Tull concert. If Martin is relegated to the note for note album tracks, which I think is boring, he may as well be Florian or any other electric guitarist. Soooo, If you read the actual interview in AND (I love the ability to download it to my Kindle!) Ian makes the point that he has been working with the "Florian line up" for ten years now. It's his show and he, for many well made points, made the decision to use these players for this project. A lot of it was purely practical and made many points about getting insurance for aging players! (I'm wondering though what Doanes other health issues are aside from his shoulder surgery) He spent more time than I have previously read about he and Martin meeting and talking this over. All in all the amount of thinking and planning that Ian puts into these projects more than justified, in my mind, his decisions. He likened himself to the football coach and this was his team of "available" players, it's the hand he is going to play. And if you want to bitch at him about it, without walking a mile in his boots, he might, and has, said "FUCK OFF, dont come to the show, dont buy the album." It IS his baby. We are fans of his music, and can wish away, and "monday morning quarterback" all we want but I don't think he sees us having the right to tell him how to do it. I'm not offended and I'm not going to fuck off  Oh one more thing. I've sounded off on this before but his stories about having such a horrible time in the US as TULL during the TAAB tour with overly enthusiastic fans. To the point that he was telling T Ellis that "Thats it I want to quit!"......I have a hard time buying this. He returned with APP the very next year that contained MORE quiet acoustic bits than TAAB had. Listen to the boots, they (the rowdy crowd) are for the most part very quiet during these parts. He has also, over the years, expressed a certain disdain for LA that I dont quite understand. Aside from our obvious uncoothness (yes I miss-spelled it on porpuss) we have, since the early days, put a pretty penny in the headmasters pockets. (1975 Five sold out nights at the Forum, a record, 1976 the LA Colosium, consistantly multiple nights since 1970) and he usually sells out a couple of nights here nowadays in the southland everytime he comes around. We are a gauranteed market for him that he says he dislikes. So I have my issues with his "story". Yet like a dysfunctional relationship, I'll be there in October and I'm looking forward to it. Go ahead Ian...hit me again! and this time put some stank on it!!  Darin Cody |
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Post by jtul07 on May 8, 2012 14:26:40 GMT -5
I hear there's an 800lb Gorilla in the room? PFFFFT!
Yet like a dysfunctional relationship, I'll be there in October and I'm looking forward to it.
Go ahead Ian...hit me again! and this time put some stank on it!!
Darin Cody  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Nags on May 8, 2012 20:28:38 GMT -5
I hear there's an 800lb Gorilla in the room? PFFFFT! I read that entire interview in AND, and when Ian said "they can just fuck off!" speaking of the people making a big deal about Martin needing to be included on TAAB2 and the tour for TAAB, I pretty much laughed out loud. Good for him. I myself was getting a bit tired of the back and forth about weather Tull was Tull without Martin. Tull has not been Tull for a veeeeery long time!!! That said, I'm probably one of the bigger Martin fans on this board. dave, the solo bits that Martin had on stage, particularly in the days of "Tull" where some of the big parts that made Tull so diverse, and aside from the flute solo, my favorite bits of the show. They rocked hard and loud, and not always in 4/4! These were electric bits that NO other rock outfit was doing. You need to get yourself some 70s boots. Roots to Branches is a good album......but it is a mere "birthday card" from a killer sexy woman I used to have a raging torrential love affair with. I saw the 40th Aqualung tour and it was good BUT it was like listening to the record NOT like seeing "Tull" AND MARTIN AND DOANE WERE THERE! In the days of Aqualung, they would veer off track, imbed solos in them, so much stuff I had never heard before! As a matter of fact that was one of the attractions, half the time I didn't know where they where going with a song.....and just at the right time, reprise or wind up (no pun) in another great tune. It kept you guessing and was designed to entertain, and that it did. I dont consider what I saw in 2011 a great Tull concert. If Martin is relegated to the note for note album tracks, which I think is boring, he may as well be Florian or any other electric guitarist. Soooo, If you read the actual interview in AND (I love the ability to download it to my Kindle!) Ian makes the point that he has been working with the "Florian line up" for ten years now. It's his show and he, for many well made points, made the decision to use these players for this project. A lot of it was purely practical and made many points about getting insurance for aging players! (I'm wondering though what Doanes other health issues are aside from his shoulder surgery) He spent more time than I have previously read about he and Martin meeting and talking this over. All in all the amount of thinking and planning that Ian puts into these projects more than justified, in my mind, his decisions. He likened himself to the football coach and this was his team of "available" players, it's the hand he is going to play. And if you want to bitch at him about it, without walking a mile in his boots, he might, and has, said "FUCK OFF, dont come to the show, dont buy the album." It IS his baby. We are fans of his music, and can wish away, and "monday morning quarterback" all we want but I don't think he sees us having the right to tell him how to do it. I'm not offended and I'm not going to fuck off Oh one more thing. I've sounded off on this before but his stories about having such a horrible time in the US as TULL during the TAAB tour with overly enthusiastic fans. To the point that he was telling T Ellis that "Thats it I want to quit!"......I have a hard time buying this. He returned with APP the very next year that contained MORE quiet acoustic bits than TAAB had. Listen to the boots, they (the rowdy crowd) are for the most part very quiet during these parts. He has also, over the years, expressed a certain disdain for LA that I dont quite understand. Aside from our obvious uncoothness (yes I miss-spelled it on porpuss) we have, since the early days, put a pretty penny in the headmasters pockets. (1975 Five sold out nights at the Forum, a record, 1976 the LA Colosium, consistantly multiple nights since 1970) and he usually sells out a couple of nights here nowadays in the southland everytime he comes around. We are a gauranteed market for him that he says he dislikes. So I have my issues with his "story". Yet like a dysfunctional relationship, I'll be there in October and I'm looking forward to it. Go ahead Ian...hit me again! and this time put some stank on it!! Darin Cody Right on Dude, on all counts. |
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