Tomn
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Post by Tomn on Jun 14, 2012 11:53:41 GMT -5
From TAAB2, 'Banker Bets Banker Wins'. Any thoughts as to the meaning? Please, not a reference to Harry Potter! I'd like to think it's just some vintage Ian lewdness
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Post by My God on Jun 14, 2012 12:34:07 GMT -5
From TAAB2, 'Banker Bets Banker Wins'. Any thoughts as to the meaning? Please, not a reference to Harry Potter! I'd like to think it's just some vintage Ian lewdness I think Ian moved his money to another bank, and the director got into some type of financial trouble. That's what I hear anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 16:36:53 GMT -5
I don't think it would be so bad if it was a reference to Harry Potter. If it is, it's certainly not in an in-the-story fan context, but in a tongue-in-cheek social context.
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Post by Morthoron on Jun 16, 2012 21:37:04 GMT -5
I believe it is now legal to eat Hermione for lunch.
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Post by Icy Lucifer on Jun 17, 2012 3:33:34 GMT -5
I don't think it would be so bad if it was a reference to Harry Potter. If it is, it's certainly not in an in-the-story fan context, but in a tongue-in-cheek social context. Well, its certainly tongue-in- something... ...and Hermione does enjoy a snooze after lunch... icyL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 12:33:04 GMT -5
Somehow I knew this thread would eventually end up like this...
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Tomn
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Post by Tomn on Jun 18, 2012 10:26:14 GMT -5
I wasn't sure if Hermione might not be some exotic British dish which we in the States haven't heard of [Fray Bentos Pie was news to me!]
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Post by Geoff CB on Jun 18, 2012 18:43:21 GMT -5
I wasn't sure if Hermione might not be some exotic British dish which we in the States haven't heard of [Fray Bentos Pie was news to me!] She probably is a "dish"!
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Post by jtul07 on Jun 18, 2012 19:37:36 GMT -5
Well, its certainly tongue-in-something...
...and Hermione does enjoy a snooze after lunch...
icyL Wake up "Sweet Cheeks"! Time for afternoon tea. ;D ;D
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Post by TM on Jun 18, 2012 19:59:50 GMT -5
Well, its certainly tongue-in-something...
...and Hermione does enjoy a snooze after lunch...
icyL Wake up "Sweet Cheeks"! Time for afternoon tea. ;D ;DHoly schnikies! That photo is of our receptionist from my company's last picnic back in 2009. Needless to say the picnics have been canceled ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 5:07:15 GMT -5
Holy schnikies! That photo is of our receptionist from my company's last picnic back in 2009. Needless to say the picnics have been canceled ever since. Would she be interested in a job-share scheme with my company?
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Post by TM on Jun 19, 2012 10:53:19 GMT -5
Holy schnikies! That photo is of our receptionist from my company's last picnic back in 2009. Needless to say the picnics have been canceled ever since. Would she be interested in a job-share scheme with my company? I get the impression she would.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 23:41:40 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has noticed this in the midst of all your shenanigans, but there is a small reference to Hermione on the St Cleve website: stcleve.com/messages.htmlIt's the fifth paragraph from the top.
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Post by Bostock on Feb 10, 2013 6:11:57 GMT -5
What does it mean? The lyrics of: Banker Bets banker Wins? They are some of the most challenging and complicated lyrics I personally have ever encountered, but then again… I am a Danish citizen. MBA is an education which stands for: Master of Business Administration, but what does “a doddle mastered” mean? Doddle means: An easy task. Mastered means: perfectly understood. In other words: An easy task perfectly understood. (So far so good…) Does he mean that it is easy to accomplish this education? Or what? Does anybody have an answer? The questions are numerous when it comes to the lyrics of Banker Bets, Banker Wins. This is just one of them. He is using cocaine: Snort a line. And “Liquid Gold is a brand of Poppers. At least I think so. Poppers are used during sex. It is sniffed and provides the user some kind of momentary high. Ian Anderson: “Liquid Gold in safe ascendance.” This leads me to believe that this banker is sniffing Liquid Gold (Poppers) during sex, with someone he dominates. Since ascendance is another word for dominance, this being done in a safe environment. You’re comments are most welcome.
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Post by Tommiebaby on Feb 10, 2013 14:14:29 GMT -5
Regardless, all you pundits, haha..........."Banker....." is such a great song! Makes me happy. I only recently got TAAB2 as I'd written off Tull a while ago (as Jeff knows) .....but this album has renewed my faith as there are fine songs on it. I now want more NEW stuff.........totally new.........w/out reference to past stuff
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 6:37:00 GMT -5
As with all of Ian's works, there are snippets which link to a good old fashioned double entendre, some of his own very well crafted double entendre's and some downright, hit you straight beteeen the eyes, overt sexual references.
The song relates to bankers and the banking scandals they created and the chorus highlights the excesses and profligate use of wealth, fast cars, drugs and sex.
Hermione is mentioned several times thoughout the whole 'concept', read the sleeve notes, visit the website etc...
It's meaning is likely to be related to the act of oral sex* being performed on Hermione at.... lunchtime.
[*Not 0RA1 53X, that's a car number plate].
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Post by Bostock on Feb 13, 2013 7:33:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the coment! Oral sex? Haven't thought about that.
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Post by Icy Lucifer on Feb 13, 2013 10:33:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the coment! Oral sex? Haven't thought about that! I have. The clue is in my avatar. Kinda lingers. Icy L
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Post by Heavy Horse on Feb 13, 2013 10:39:23 GMT -5
His MBA was a doddle because his education wa micro-managed! I reckon he bought his degree, or at least used (family?) connections to get through it more easily than he should have - making him a "fluky (lucky) bastard", on the way!... Hermione is either Gerald's wife or mistress or even (my favourite!) the glum PA, who he shags in his lunch hour! The clue is in the fact that they go to a show afterwards. I don't know why anyone would think she's underage - the name's been around a bit longer than Harry Potter! It's a handy "posh girl"'s name that goes with the banker's status... "Liquid gold in safe ascendence" refers to the reletive security of the reserve currencies in the previous line... That's my take on it!
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Post by Bostock on Feb 14, 2013 5:56:26 GMT -5
Okay! Here it is! From the sleeve notes of TAAB2. Thanks to the Quizz Kid! "Eat Hermione for lunch" is having sex with Hermione Parrit-Jones. Probable oral sex as the Quizz Kid mentioned!
Madame Seductress. Hermione Parritt-Jones is set to appear for the international publication Madame-X Magazine Summer Swimwear edition in June. Already shot in Antigua, Barbados and Weston-super-Mare, the photos show the 19 year-old ex-Eastonbirt College schoolgirl in a variety of fashion-wear. Recently grounded by parents Roger and Huffy for spending several nights up in London without permission, she has been given the green light to postpone, for now, her university studies in order to pursue a modelling career. Headmistress Diane Polyp-Duckworth of Eastonbirt reluctantly agreed that “irons don't stay hot forever, so best strike while there is still fire in the old oven.”
Hermione completed work experience at Credit Uzbek Investment Bank, Canary Wharf, last Summer and chose modelling over her original plan to seek an MBA at a prestigious Massachusetts Business College. Her mentor at Credit Uzbek, Mark Caddish received a £12,000,000 bonus last year although much of this was in deferred stock ownership and off-shore bullion. Inland Revenue are “interested” in his earnings and tax declarations over the last few years.
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Post by Bostock on Feb 14, 2013 8:20:05 GMT -5
I found this definition of Micromanagement on the Internet: In business management, micromanagement is a management style whereby a manager closely observes or controls the work of subordinates or employees. Micromanagement generally has a negative connotation. And another definition: Micro-manage: Micro-manage means that a person is very controlling, and has to have their hands into everything. they do not allow for others to handle anything without being scrutinized. They want to know everything you are doing and where you are. Ian Anderson: "Education, micro-managed. MBA: a doddle mastered." I don't see how that could be at doddle? In other words. If his education is micro-managed. How can it be a doddle? It seems to be pretty Big Brother to me. Unless Ian Anderson's Micro-managed and Micromanagement is two different things? Another thing. If I were to write a song about a girl named Hermione. I would specifically use that name if I was writing about a minor, having sex with a pedophile. I am from Denmark, and English is not always easy for me. The only time that i have heard the name Hermione was by watching Harry Potter movies with my daughter. So I tend to think about Hermione as a minor. The name has been around for a long time, as Heavy Horse so rightly points out, and after doing some research I found that it at least dates back to ancient Greece. So there was a lot of options. It now turns out that Ian Anderson had a specific girl i mind. According to the sleeve notes of TAAB2. She is 19 years old. Her name is Hermione Parrit-Jones. She worked in a bank at Canary Wharf. It doesn't say anything about how old she was when she started working in the bank business. So, she might have been a minor at the time of office sex? Anyway. It's a cushy number, and he is a fluky bastard! In other words: It's an easy job, and he is a lucky bastard. So, yes, he might have some connections to get through it more easily than he should have. good point! The lyrics are not clear when it comes to: "... we munch." It could be that the banker is going out with Hermione, but then again, she might have been left behind. "We" might not be Hermione and the banker. I don't understand what you mean with this sentence: "Liquid gold in safe ascendence" refers to the relative security of the reserve currencies in the previous line...? Could you clarify what it means? Once again, thank you for the comments! Thanks To Heavy Horse!
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Post by Bostock on Feb 15, 2013 5:47:32 GMT -5
Okay So, PA probable stands for Personal Assistant. I think that's what Heavy Horse suggested the other day? It makes sense to me! Ian Anderson: "Set that glum PA a-jumping." To me that means that this banker is pushing his Personal Assistant around. He's only interest is what he can gain, and doesn't care about other peoples feelings. Hate that kind of people, now you know! That's probable why his Personal Assistant is glum, moody and melancholy. "Eat Hermione for lunch" is having sex with Hermione Parritt-Jones. So if: "Set that glum PA a-jumping," also means having sex... well that would be like saying just about the same thing twice... like a stutter. I don't recall Ian ever doing that. This is how i See it now. tomorrow? Who knows?
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Post by Bostock on Feb 15, 2013 6:05:47 GMT -5
Another interesting line in the lyrics is in my opinion this. "Threatened Exit, stage left, laughing..." Well... Martin Barre preferred place on any stage of the world is left. He even has a solo CD called: Stage Left. Now, Martin isn't in the band at the moment. Maybe this chapter will remain closed forever? Martin has stated in an interview that: "Jethro Tull is on ice." Doesn't sound very promising for a near future return. When it comes to the line: "Threatened Exit, stage left, laughing..." Well... I don't suggest that the line is about Martin Barre's exit from Jethro Tull, but it may be inspired by it. I think the line is about bankers destroying other peoples economy, laughing all the way "to the Bank." It would have been cheaper to have them on wellfare!
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Post by Tommiebaby on Feb 15, 2013 22:24:31 GMT -5
Yo, Bostock................Get a life!
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Post by fraser on Feb 16, 2013 14:39:19 GMT -5
In the video intro to TaaB2 in the live show the character Archibald (Tufty) Parritt (played by Ian Anderson) shows us around the grounds and makes reference to his "wayward neice, young Hermione". You can see the clip here, from about 50 minutes in.
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