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Post by Morthoron on Sept 2, 2012 21:30:16 GMT -5
My next article on the Dark Elf File blog is entitled: "The Saddest Rock Songs of All Time". Naturally, among the 50 to 100 songs I'll be listing, a few Tull songs came to mind:
Pibroch (Cap in Hand) - my personal choice Orion - "Cold winds in darkest Chelsea" (a great line) The Flying Dutchman - "Old lady with a barrow, life near ending" Sossity, You're a Woman Crash-barrier Waltzer From a Deadbeat to an Old Greaser Requiem A Christmas Song - one of the most sobering holiday tunes ever Locomotive Breath Look into the Sun and et cetera
The question is, what is Tull's saddest song for you? If it makes sense, I'll add it to the article.
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Post by Dan on Sept 2, 2012 22:21:21 GMT -5
My next article on the Dark Elf File blog is entitled: "The Saddest Rock Songs of All Time". Naturally, among the 50 to 100 songs I'll be listing, a few Tull songs came to mind: Pibroch (Cap in Hand) - my personal choice Orion - "Cold winds in darkest Chelsea" (a great line) The Flying Dutchman - "Old lady with a barrow, life near ending" Sossity, You're a WomanCrash-barrier WaltzerFrom a Deadbeat to an Old GreaserRequiemA Christmas Song - one of the most sobering holiday tunes ever Locomotive BreathLook into the Sunand et cetera The question is, what is Tull's saddest song for you? If it makes sense, I'll add it to the article. If you count Ian's solo work , I would include "Old Black Cat." Dan
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Post by Icy Lucifer on Sept 3, 2012 5:12:05 GMT -5
My next article on the Dark Elf File blog is entitled: "The Saddest Rock Songs of All Time". Naturally, among the 50 to 100 songs I'll be listing, a few Tull songs came to mind: Pibroch (Cap in Hand) - my personal choice Orion - "Cold winds in darkest Chelsea" (a great line) The Flying Dutchman - "Old lady with a barrow, life near ending" Sossity, You're a WomanCrash-barrier WaltzerFrom a Deadbeat to an Old GreaserRequiemA Christmas Song - one of the most sobering holiday tunes ever Locomotive BreathLook into the Sunand et cetera The question is, what is Tull's saddest song for you? If it makes sense, I'll add it to the article. If you count Ian's solo work , I would include "Old Black Cat." Dan I would add - 'At Last, Forever' and also 'Wooton Bassett Town'. Regards to all Tullies. icyL
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Post by David C on Sept 3, 2012 6:04:44 GMT -5
I'd agree with most of those except " Old Black Cat ", can't stand that song.
I would also add, Slow Marching Band and We Used To Know.
Tying this to another thread, We Used To Know is also the Tull song that I can't get out of my head. The opening line ( Whenever I get to feel this way, hard to find new words to say ) pops up at random intervals throughout the day.
Not too much of a problem except I have a habit of singing it aloud in inappropiate places.
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 10:08:50 GMT -5
Of course this isn't technically Tull, but A Change of Horses can be sad, though it is bittersweet.
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Post by Zombywoof on Sept 3, 2012 10:56:12 GMT -5
It's got to be "At Last, Forever", the only song Ian has written that deals directly with death...
"So why are you holding my hand tonight? I'm not intending to go far away. I'm just slipping through to the back room -- I'll leave you messages almost every day. And who was I to last forever? I didn't promise to stay the pace. Not in this lifetime, babe But we'll cling together: Some kind of heaven written in your face.
So why are you holding my hand tonight? Well, am I feeling so cold to the touch? Do my eyes seem to focus On some distant point? Why do I find it hard to talk too much? And who was I to last forever? I didn't promise to stay the pace. Not in this lifetime, babe But we'll cling together: Some kind of heaven written in your face.
So why are you holding my hand tonight? I'm not intending to go far away. I'm just slipping through to the back room -- I'll leave you messages almost every day. And who was I to last forever? I didn't promise to stay the pace. Not in this lifetime, babe But we'll cling together: Some kind of heaven written in your face."
Also, "Sanctuary" from Secret Language of Birds. A piece that Ian said made him cry in the liner notes:
"Dear uncle sold her into the purest kind of slavery. Hood-eyed little middlemen profited from damaged goods along the way. Good angels brought her back to a last Nepal summer. Debased, hollow-faced, a smile might become her. Now she's cosied up, cosied up and comforted in the warm flush of September. Gone before winter. Wondering as to might-have-beens. Somebody's daughter in sanctuary, waiting.
Seen through softer cage of kindness, far and further still away, from time-warp Victorian zoos where staring ice cream gameboys play. Big paws, worn claws and swishing tails. More damaged goods in the market sales. Too proud for anger, too late for hate: resigned in dignity. Gone before winter. Purring might-have-beens. Somebody's kitten in sanctuary, waiting.
Somebody near you in sanctuary, waiting."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 16:48:32 GMT -5
Change of Horses is a very angry tune ;D
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Post by Morthoron on Sept 3, 2012 18:27:53 GMT -5
There's a tinge of sadness (usually attributed to the minor chord) in many great Tull songs. The one that immediately comes to mind "The Chequered Flag". And I have a couple that are sad for personal reasons (as I'm sure we all do) "Home" played at my grandmothers funeral "Elegy" played at my fathers funeral. I don't consider Flying Dutchman to be as sad as it is just an amazingly written composition. Is that one of the best songs ever written? Yes, many Tull songs have a melancholy tinge. I love "Elegy", but I think the lyrics have as much to do with the feeling of the song as the music. Even when we're talking about something as haunting as Mozart's Requiem Mass, if you aren't aware of the meaning of the composition, you may miss the theme of death. And I knew someone would find "Flying Dutchman" not necessarily sad, but that's as subjective as me finding infinite sadness in the song. Which is why I asked for help in the first place. ;D I also just remembered "Jack-A-Lynn". Dan, I love the song "Old Black Cat", and though the cat dies, he had a good life, or at least not a bad one...for a cat. I can't get worked up about him. Icy Lucifer and Zomby (what a scary pair!): I had forgotten completely about "At Last, Forever". Great song, thanks. As far as "Wooten Major". Meh, there are far too many great actual Tull songs to choose from, and I only have space for one or two among the others I have already chosen. I may love Tull, but I do have to be somewhat objective. The competition is quite fierce when one considers all the great sad rock songs over the years. In fact, let me give you a list of ten out of the 50 I have already selected: Landslide - Fleetwood Mac Don't Give Up - Peter Gabriel Dust in the Wind - Kansas Can't You See - Marshall Tucker Band Me and Bobby McGee - Janis Joplin Fire and Rain - James Taylor Castles Made of Sand - Jimi Hendrix Imagine - John Lennon Yesterday - The Beatles I’m Not in Love - 10CC That's quite a melancholy list, and those are not even my TOP TEN! Listen to those ten in a row and you'll be slitting your wrists! So now you know what Ian and the boys are up against. We need a couple real classics. David C., I was considering "We Used to Know" as well! Again, thanks for all your offerings! Let's keep the debate going a bit longer.
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Post by Geoff CB on Sept 3, 2012 18:39:54 GMT -5
"The Chequered Flag" definitely.
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Post by My God on Sept 4, 2012 9:54:38 GMT -5
My choice for some reason is ''Badeyed and Loveless''. Everytime I hear it, makes me sad.
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Post by jtul07 on Sept 4, 2012 16:34:25 GMT -5
Hello! A friend told me I should know about this board he found while endlessly surfing the net. Well, he was right, cause I have been a fan since before those rattley little cassette tapes thought they needed to take over!
Kinda hate to jump in on the saddest song but here I go: Slow Marching Band. It struck me so sad I actually couldnt play it for years, and still rarely do.
Talk to you soon ok? Ok! You read my mind. I get very misty when I hear "Slow Marching Band". Even now. It was played live in 1982 and I almost cried then. Also, I cried when cassettes replaced 8track tapes. I need to go now. I feel very sad at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 17:49:23 GMT -5
Hello! A friend told me I should know about this board he found while endlessly surfing the net. Well, he was right, cause I have been a fan since before those rattley little cassette tapes thought they needed to take over! Kinda hate to jump in on the saddest song but here I go: Slow Marching Band. It struck me so sad I actually couldnt play it for years, and still rarely do. Talk to you soon ok? Ok! I agree, I think it IS one of the saddest Tull songs.....and I've always wondered why it has a "wrong" piano note at the end of the song. I don't think Ian would leave in accidents.... Darin
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Post by Heavy Horse on Sept 5, 2012 4:02:13 GMT -5
"Crash Barrier Waltzer" for me!
The come-down after "Pig-Me and the Whore" - which is sordid, but not sad! The impotent shrug of "Mr. Policeman". The fact it sounds like it could have really happened one night to Ian. The casting of the characters as faded dancers. The feeling that they will keep going through the same thing forever, with no relief.
One of the (several) reasons I prefer Tull to (e.g.) Yes, is that the lyrics are nearly always based in the real world. No cackling on about dragons and adolescent half-baked philosophies for our Ian! This song is unbearably poignant: throughout "Baker Street Muse" you can picture every step of his meander through the city.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 7:47:02 GMT -5
On Preston Platform do your soft shoe shuffle dance Brush away the cigarette ash that's falling down your pants. And then you sadly wonder does the nurse treat your old man the way she should. She made you tea, asked for your authgraph - what a laugh.
Being on your own, travelling back to London after visiitng your old man in hospital, and wondering if he is being treated well enough, wondering whether the Nurse was more interetsed in you and your fame rather than your Dad who is in her charge, being in doubt about his welfare as well as his health and all the while not being able to do anything about it despite the fame [and wealth].
I call that sad.
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Post by Morthoron on Sept 6, 2012 21:06:26 GMT -5
"Crash Barrier Waltzer" for me! The come-down after "Pig-Me and the Whore" - which is sordid, but not sad! The impotent shrug of "Mr. Policeman". The fact it sounds like it could have really happened one night to Ian. The casting of the characters as faded dancers. The feeling that they will keep going through the same thing forever, with no relief. One of the (several) reasons I prefer Tull to (e.g.) Yes, is that the lyrics are nearly always based in the real world. No cackling on about dragons and adolescent half-baked philosophies for our Ian! This song is unbearably poignant: throughout "Baker Street Muse" you can picture every step of his meander through the city. "Crash Barrier Waltzer" is an infinitely sad song. Ian's "poison regret" is palpable in this song. And it stings. Much like the line in "A Christmas Song" : "So how can you laugh when your own mother's hungry?" That always gets me. I also feel that way about "Pibroch (Cap in Hand)". Aside from being stellar musically, you pull for the man with the cap in his hand, and you hope the best for him. But then there is the candlelit table for two and the strange boots in the hallway, and your heart sinks with him. Haven't we all had that sinking feeling at one time or another in our lives?
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Post by Proggy on Oct 15, 2012 9:02:07 GMT -5
The first to spring to mind is "Slow Marching Band".
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