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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 7:24:36 GMT -5
First off, I don't believe Ian said anything about "not wanting to spend a weekend with a bunch of smelly hippies". OR if he did, it was well after the fact. OR better yet, it's become a myth of sorts that Ian does not dispel.
That being said.....Tull circa August of 1969, with material from This Was and Stand Up available to perform, I think Tull could have potentially stolen the show. I guess the Woodstock label being placed on Tull could have had some negative impact.
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Post by TM on Sept 13, 2009 10:43:13 GMT -5
First off, I don't believe Ian said anything about "not wanting to spend a weekend with a bunch of smelly hippies". OR if he did, it was well after the fact. OR better yet, it's become a myth of sorts that Ian does not dispel. That being said.....Tull circa August of 1969, with material from This Was and Stand Up available to perform, I think Tull could have potentially stolen the show. I guess the Woodstock label being placed on Tull could have had some negative impact. Why negative? Not that I'm familiar with all the acts that performed there, but I don't recall it hurting anyone's career. |
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 9:31:14 GMT -5
First off, I don't believe Ian said anything about "not wanting to spend a weekend with a bunch of smelly hippies". OR if he did, it was well after the fact. OR better yet, it's become a myth of sorts that Ian does not dispel. That being said.....Tull circa August of 1969, with material from This Was and Stand Up available to perform, I think Tull could have potentially stolen the show. I guess the Woodstock label being placed on Tull could have had some negative impact. Whether that is an exact quote or not, I do know that Ian has expressed his disdain for the whole hippie/drug culture on several occasions in interviews, which I believe is one of the reasons why he developed a strained relationship with the rock press, which was into the whole Woodstock scene and those types of bands. Of course, it did not help that he was also sensitive to criticism and sometimes came across as a bit of a blowhard during interviews. Jeff |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2009 18:14:00 GMT -5
I think a couple of acts got pigeon holed into the whole Woodstock/Hippie thing. Richie Havens, and I just get irritated seeing John Sebastian wearing those dye-tie pants
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Post by Afton on Oct 23, 2009 13:17:24 GMT -5
First off, I don't believe Ian said anything about "not wanting to spend a weekend with a bunch of smelly hippies". OR if he did, it was well after the fact. OR better yet, it's become a myth of sorts that Ian does not dispel. That being said.....Tull circa August of 1969, with material from This Was and Stand Up available to perform, I think Tull could have potentially stolen the show. I guess the Woodstock label being placed on Tull could have had some negative impact. If he would have say it, I think it was in an ironically way. He did look like a smelly hippie him self anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2009 17:49:12 GMT -5
Why negative? Not that I'm familiar with all the acts that performed there, but I don't recall it hurting anyone's career. Unfortunately I think it may have in a sense. While the famous performers at woodstock did go on to have a few successes, most of them ultimately sold less, or broke up (and I suppose in some cases died, but I don't think that's any fault of woodstock). People do tend to focus too much on nostalgia with all of these "classic rock" bands. If Tull had played at woodstock, people may have not listened to them much after Thick as a Brick, instead longing for the old days of the famous Woodstock Tull, which surely wouldn't fit with releases like Passion Play, Minstrel, or Stormwatch, all popular albums in their own right. |
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Post by TM on Nov 5, 2009 18:45:12 GMT -5
Why negative? Not that I'm familiar with all the acts that performed there, but I don't recall it hurting anyone's career. Unfortunately I think it may have in a sense. While the famous performers at woodstock did go on to have a few successes, most of them ultimately sold less, or broke up (and I suppose in some cases died, but I don't think that's any fault of woodstock). People do tend to focus too much on nostalgia with all of these "classic rock" bands. If Tull had played at woodstock, people may have not listened to them much after Thick as a Brick, instead longing for the old days of the famous Woodstock Tull, which surely wouldn't fit with releases like Passion Play, Minstrel, or Stormwatch, all popular albums in their own right. I see your point, but I'm not so sure a greater number of Woodstock bands faded away any quicker then those that didn't from that same time period. It seems there has always been a decent amount of Mungo Jerry's out there, and I'm sure there always will. Besides, a fair amount of Woodstock bands went on to have pretty successful careers - lasting many years. PS - You know a helluva lot about rock music for an 18 year old! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 4:59:16 GMT -5
Unfortunately I think it may have in a sense. While the famous performers at woodstock did go on to have a few successes, most of them ultimately sold less, or broke up (and I suppose in some cases died, but I don't think that's any fault of woodstock). People do tend to focus too much on nostalgia with all of these "classic rock" bands. If Tull had played at woodstock, people may have not listened to them much after Thick as a Brick, instead longing for the old days of the famous Woodstock Tull, which surely wouldn't fit with releases like Passion Play, Minstrel, or Stormwatch, all popular albums in their own right. I see your point, but I'm not so sure a greater number of Woodstock bands faded away any quicker then those that didn't from that same time period. It seems there has always been a decent amount of Mungo Jerry's out there, and I'm sure there always will. Besides, a fair amount of Woodstock bands went on to have pretty successful careers - lasting many years. PS - You know a helluva lot about rock music for an 18 year old! You're right, both The Who and the Grateful Dead went on to have extremely succesful careers (along with some others). The way I see it is that much of the hippie movement died down after 1973. If Tull was the show-stealer at woodstock, a lot of their reputation might have been a bit silenced with it. Instead, Tull became an international sensation after woodstock, with Aqualung, and was seen as a bit seperate from the hippie movement. Thus their heyday was prolonged longer than the hippies'. In a way, Ian Anderson was very smart not to identify him and his band with the hippy movement. As we can tell from albums like Too Old to Rock and Roll, he had quite a good understanding about the movement of trends, and how one can get caught up in them. I'll bet he saw that it was just a passing trend, and knew that if they wanted to survive longer, their image would have to ascend it. All in all, Ian Anderson has been an exceptional businessman (as we know, both in the music industry, and out of it)  P.S. Thank you very much. I'd hope I know a bit more about things in general than most people my age. It scares me how foolish a lot of us can be, but yet it makes me glad that a good sized group of young people today are actually quite level-headed. |
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Post by King Heath on Nov 8, 2009 17:27:27 GMT -5
Well, in a way Tull have been in Woodstock. At least you can hear Tull playing in the film - LITP if memory serves. But before you ask, no, I will not watch the DVD now to find out where exactly that exquisite little snatch of Tull music can be found.
Would it have had an impact on their career? Maybe in ticket and LP sales but otherwise, no. It didn't have any effect on The Who, did it. It was just another gig Townsend didn't want to play. And that would have been a great loss to posterity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 22:09:49 GMT -5
Well, in a way Tull have been in Woodstock. At least you can hear Tull playing in the film - LITP if memory serves. But before you ask, no, I will not watch the DVD now to find out where exactly that exquisite little snatch of Tull music can be found. I've only seen Woodstock (film) once, and I don't remember that. I should look out for it next time I see it. |
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