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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 9:12:29 GMT -5
What are the Tull/IA songs that mean the most to you, and why? For me, the three most meaningful songs are: 1) A Time for Everything, because at 48 I'm stuck in a career that I don't love; 2) Orion, because the notion of a benign celestial being looking down on and protecting this troubled world is very appealing to me; 3) Inside, because of the simple, happy and loving sentiments that it expresses; and 4) Wondr'ing Aloud, for much the same reasons as Inside; my wife and I chose it for our first dance at our wedding, and even though the band butchered it, the greatness of the song still shined through. Obviously, there are lots of others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2009 9:51:25 GMT -5
For me, my three would be
1. Summerday Sands: It seems to encapsulate a the feelings and a relationship from many, many years ago, and a girl that I have spent far too many more years thinking about and trying to find;
2. Skating away on the thin ice of a new day: for the briillant lines "Well do you ever get the feeling that the story's too damn real and in the presence tense, or that everybody's on the stage and it sems like your the only person sitting in the audience".... sums up a part of my younger, less confident life;
3. Life's a long song: Simply because it cannot be surpassed in my book as a song that makes me always feel good.
[I'd add TaaB as well, but that's a much longer song and a much longer reason....]
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 12:15:37 GMT -5
APP, specifically this part:
Hail, son of kings make the everdying sign cross your fingers in the sky for those about to be There am I waiting along the sand Cast your sweet spell upon the land and sea. Magus Perde take your hand from off the chain. Loose a wish to still, the rain, the storm about to be. Here am I voyager into life. Tough are the soles that tread the knife's edge. Break the circle, stretch the line, call upon the devil. Bring the gods, the gods own fire In the conflict revel. The passengers upon the ferry crossing waiting to be born renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn. animals queueing at the gate that stands upon the shore breathe the ever-burning fire that guards the ever-door.
Man son of man buy the flame of ever-life yours to breathe and breath the pain of living, living Be! Here am I Roll the stone away from the dark into ever day.
This all probably does NOT mean what I had interpreted it to mean in my own mind but for me the words were meaningful...I listened to it a lot and it seemed to say what I was feeling at the time, a couple of years ago...was going through some hard things...life was just being very hard at the time...then I became pregnant with my daughter...all the issues seemed to resolve themselves...I feel like this also said how I was feeling but helped me as well...
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 12:24:51 GMT -5
APP, specifically this part: Hail, son of kings make the everdying sign cross your fingers in the sky for those about to be There am I waiting along the sand Cast your sweet spell upon the land and sea. Magus Perde take your hand from off the chain. Loose a wish to still, the rain, the storm about to be. Here am I voyager into life. Tough are the soles that tread the knife's edge. Break the circle, stretch the line, call upon the devil. Bring the gods, the gods own fire In the conflict revel. The passengers upon the ferry crossing waiting to be born renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn. animals queueing at the gate that stands upon the shore breathe the ever-burning fire that guards the ever-door. Man son of man buy the flame of ever-life yours to breathe and breath the pain of living, living Be! Here am I Roll the stone away from the dark into ever day. This all probably does NOT mean what I had interpreted it to mean in my own mind but for me the words were meaningful...I listened to it a lot and it seemed to say what I was feeling at the time, a couple of years ago...was going through some hard things...life was just being very hard at the time...then I became pregnant with my daughter...all the issues seemed to resolve themselves...I feel like this also said how I was feeling but helped me as well... I loved your insight into those lyrics, Holly, and I can see how you would have derived meaning from them in difficult times, especially the last stanza of what you quoted. It's amazing how the birth of a child can make other problems seem insignificant. I've never connected to the Passion Play lyrics in quite the same kind of way, but then again, perhaps I've never put in enough effort trying to decipher them. The next time I listen to the album, I'm really going to focus on the words. Jeff
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 12:41:00 GMT -5
APP, specifically this part: Hail, son of kings make the everdying sign cross your fingers in the sky for those about to be There am I waiting along the sand Cast your sweet spell upon the land and sea. Magus Perde take your hand from off the chain. Loose a wish to still, the rain, the storm about to be. Here am I voyager into life. Tough are the soles that tread the knife's edge. Break the circle, stretch the line, call upon the devil. Bring the gods, the gods own fire In the conflict revel. The passengers upon the ferry crossing waiting to be born renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn. animals queueing at the gate that stands upon the shore breathe the ever-burning fire that guards the ever-door. Man son of man buy the flame of ever-life yours to breathe and breath the pain of living, living Be! Here am I Roll the stone away from the dark into ever day. This all probably does NOT mean what I had interpreted it to mean in my own mind but for me the words were meaningful...I listened to it a lot and it seemed to say what I was feeling at the time, a couple of years ago...was going through some hard things...life was just being very hard at the time...then I became pregnant with my daughter...all the issues seemed to resolve themselves...I feel like this also said how I was feeling but helped me as well... I loved your insight into those lyrics, Holly, and I can see how you would have derived meaning from them in difficult times, especially the last stanza of what you quoted. It's amazing how the birth of a child can make other problems seem insignificant. I've never connected to the Passion Play lyrics in quite the same kind of way, but then again, perhaps I've never put in enough effort trying to decipher them. The next time I listen to the album, I'm really going to focus on the words. Jeff Thank you. I mean...being more in depth with this explanation...."Here am I voyager into life.Tough are the soles that tread the knife's edge. Break the circle, stretch the line, call upon the devil.Bring the gods, the gods own fire In the conflict revel. Man son of man buy the flame of ever-life yours to breathe and breath the pain of living, living Be!Here am I Roll the stone away from the dark into ever day." that year, I was struck by Lyme and basically in chronic pain and how hard life could be, not just for myself but for all of us... I thought there was a good chance that I would never actually have a child. I thought I was dying actually. Then another part of me battled with the idea there was a child waiting for me: "Hail, son of kings make the everdying sign cross your fingers in the sky for those about to be... Loose a wish to still, the rain, the storm about to be....The passengers upon the ferry crossing waiting to be born renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn. animals queueing at the gate that stands upon the shore breathe the ever-burning fire that guards the ever-door." So that's pretty much it....
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 13:05:00 GMT -5
I loved your insight into those lyrics, Holly, and I can see how you would have derived meaning from them in difficult times, especially the last stanza of what you quoted. It's amazing how the birth of a child can make other problems seem insignificant. I've never connected to the Passion Play lyrics in quite the same kind of way, but then again, perhaps I've never put in enough effort trying to decipher them. The next time I listen to the album, I'm really going to focus on the words. Jeff Thank you. I mean...being more in depth with this explanation...."Here am I voyager into life.Tough are the soles that tread the knife's edge. Break the circle, stretch the line, call upon the devil.Bring the gods, the gods own fire In the conflict revel. Man son of man buy the flame of ever-life yours to breathe and breath the pain of living, living Be!Here am I Roll the stone away from the dark into ever day." that year, I was struck by Lyme and basically in chronic pain and how hard life could be, not just for myself but for all of us... I thought there was a good chance that I would never actually have a child. I thought I was dying actually. Then another part of me battled with the idea there was a child waiting for me: "Hail, son of kings make the everdying sign cross your fingers in the sky for those about to be... Loose a wish to still, the rain, the storm about to be....The passengers upon the ferry crossing waiting to be born renew the pledge of life's long song rise to the reveille horn. animals queueing at the gate that stands upon the shore breathe the ever-burning fire that guards the ever-door." So that's pretty much it.... I can clearly see how you would have interpreted the Passion Play lyrics as applicable to your situation, dealing with pain and illness, fearing death, while at the same time wanting and expecting to bring a new life into this world. I can also see how you would have found strength and comfort in those lyrics, as I am sure you did with religion as well. Thank God you and the baby were okay! I know there have been times where Tull music and lyrics have helped me overcome difficult times, as well. Nothing like your situation and nothing like my friend Rob, who worked in the World Trade Center Marriot Hotel and was there the morning of 9/11. He saw unspeakable things, lost colleagues and wound up fleeing south on Broadway after the second plane hit. In 2002, only seven or eight months later, we were at a Tull show together in Washington, D.C. and hung around the front of the theater, talking to Willie Porter after the show, when eventually Ian and Shona came out. Rob wanted to talk to Ian about 9/11, and we were able to get his attention for a few minutes, and he was very interested in hearing Rob's story. Rob told Ian how, as he was starting to flee from the WTC, feeling the heat of the fireball above with body parts dropping and debris of all kinds falling from the sky, thinking that he could very well die, Locomotive Breath was running through his head the whole way....No way to slow down....no way to slow down....no way to slow down. I did not speak to Ian on that occasion (Rob did all the talking while Ian asked questions), but afterward regretted that I did not mention to him how much the tragedy reminded me of the song And Further On. As my wife and I watched from the corner of Bleecker and Mercer that morning, I thought of the lines, "We saw the Heavens break/and all the World go down to sleep/saw fiery angels kiss the dawn/Will we still be here further on?" All the World go down to sleep, like the World Trade Center, the fiery angels kissing the dawn, like those awful fireballs rising from the Towers that morning. How eerie is that? It's almost as if Ian predicted it. Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 13:10:06 GMT -5
BTW, these are the types of discussions I would love to see a lot of over here on this brand new Tull board. I think there were not always enough lyric intrepretation and discussions like this one elsewhere, so thank you for sharing your thoughts, Holly.
Jeff
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 13:37:07 GMT -5
That 9/11 story is amazing...
I know what you mean...on the original Tull board, I don't want to say that it was like these types of conversations were discouraged...but it was kind of like that...know what I mean? Some people aren't into that and that's fine...
The Whistler reminds me of an old friend who played the flute. He just died in June from cancer and was 28.
Some less deep and more lighthearted meaningful songs to me
Mountain Men...well...I like the mountains, reminds me of my first trip with my husband to the mountains...I think I was playing that song
Budapest...beautiful..the description of this woman...wow...enough to make me want her....ha!
A Time for Everything...not the whole song of course, but the first line or two. Reminds me of how things happen whether we like it or not...like when I became pregnant with my second child a year ago. Surprise!
Moths...reminds me of my late teen years in early summer like 1999...when I'd drive around in early summer and listen to Moths and actually see moths flying around as the song played. Loved the song and love the beginning of summer.
Heavy Horses...I always wanted a Clydesdale...
Wind up, when hubby and I became a couple in 2000, this song was playing...not really a dissection of lyrics...but...works for me! ha
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 14:02:03 GMT -5
Wow. Very interesting and moving read.
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 14:07:50 GMT -5
TM so was singing with you various times...
I believe it was in the drink line in Prov we were singing "My God" with some old guy and/or an IA look alike...
Then we were singing "Minstrel" in the car
And when we dropped you off at your hotel we were singing, "Rocks on the Road"
Nobody else does that kind of crazy stuff with me! So fun!
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 14:11:51 GMT -5
The Crest album has special place for me. After coming off a pretty serious relationship with a girl who hated Tull, I then started dating a girl who is now my wife - one of our early dates was the COAK listening party. To this day she still appreciates Tull music. Imagine that after all the countless hours she was forced her to listen to it!
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 14:50:31 GMT -5
Same sort of thing here...I was in a relationship with a guy who didn't like Tull. Then started going out with a guy, who didn't know who they were one little bit...(he was even younger than me!) but he gave them a chance and asked to borrow some of my CDs...and this is the guy you know as Kenny today...ha
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 15:04:09 GMT -5
Same sort of thing here...I was in a relationship with a guy who didn't like Tull. Then started going out with a guy, who didn't know who they were one little bit...(he was even younger than me!) but he gave them a chance and asked to borrow some of my CDs...and this is the guy you know as Kenny today...ha Good man. We shared bruised fruit. That did suck that Andy left the two of us behind. I should have said something...
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 15:06:50 GMT -5
TM so was singing with you various times... I believe it was in the drink line in Prov we were singing "My God" with some old guy and/or an IA look alike... Then we were singing "Minstrel" in the car And when we dropped you off at your hotel we were singing, "Rocks on the Road" Nobody else does that kind of crazy stuff with me! So fun! Yeah we had some fun.
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 15:17:25 GMT -5
Same sort of thing here...I was in a relationship with a guy who didn't like Tull. Then started going out with a guy, who didn't know who they were one little bit...(he was even younger than me!) but he gave them a chance and asked to borrow some of my CDs...and this is the guy you know as Kenny today...ha Good man. We shared bruised fruit. That did suck that Andy left the two of us behind. I should have said something... I regret to inform you both that this is rapidly becoming the TM and Mothfairy show, and therefore, you are directed to wrap up and terminate all existing conversations right now, and after wrapping them, you shall tie them up with a nice tidy little bow, say, in the next two minutes, or else this thread shall be censored, deleted, modified or otherwise limited and/or controlled by the Grand High Exalted Mystic Global Moderation Police Force, and if you don't like it the option exists for you to just leave. Nottarabbit
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 15:39:38 GMT -5
Good man. We shared bruised fruit. That did suck that Andy left the two of us behind. I should have said something... I regret to inform you both that this is rapidly becoming the TM and Mothfairy show, and therefore, you are directed to wrap up and terminate all existing conversations right now, and after wrapping them, you shall tie them up with a nice tidy little bow, say, in the next two minutes, or else this thread shall be censored, deleted, modified or otherwise limited and/or controlled by the Grand High Exalted Mystic Global Moderation Police Force, and if you don't like it the option exists for you to just leave. Nottarabbit LMAO. I couldn't for the life of me understand where that girl was coming from.
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 15:42:40 GMT -5
Every time I hear Farm on the Freeway I think of Dan and his daughter. I think she was 9 when she told me that song was her favorite Tull song.
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 14, 2009 15:49:53 GMT -5
I regret to inform you both that this is rapidly becoming the TM and Mothfairy show, and therefore, you are directed to wrap up and terminate all existing conversations right now, and after wrapping them, you shall tie them up with a nice tidy little bow, say, in the next two minutes, or else this thread shall be censored, deleted, modified or otherwise limited and/or controlled by the Grand High Exalted Mystic Global Moderation Police Force, and if you don't like it the option exists for you to just leave. Nottarabbit LMAO. I couldn't for the life of me understand where that girl was coming from. I couldn't resist, because I believe it was during the bruised fruit sidebar that she made pretty much that exact pronouncement! Jeff
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Post by Dan on Sept 14, 2009 21:04:22 GMT -5
[/iquote author=admin board=lyrics thread=33 post=153 time=1252960960]Every time I hear Farm on the Freeway I think of Dan and his daughter. I think she was 9 when she told me that song was her favorite Tull song. [/quote]
That was a good time meeting you, Billy Fingas and Holly! My daughter was 9 at the time and now that she is 14 and in High School and I'm sure her return on ebay is considerably less now.
However, checking her Ipod library, between the Jesse McCartney's, Demi Lovato's and David Archuleta's , she still has JT'S Farm On The Freeway, Locomotive Breath, El Nino, Rainbow Blues and Down At The End Of your Road. The latter, I believe is solely for the 'send doggie poo-poos in your morning mail'.
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 21:34:55 GMT -5
Same sort of thing here...I was in a relationship with a guy who didn't like Tull. Then started going out with a guy, who didn't know who they were one little bit...(he was even younger than me!) but he gave them a chance and asked to borrow some of my CDs...and this is the guy you know as Kenny today...ha Good man. We shared bruised fruit. That did suck that Andy left the two of us behind. I should have said something... Yeah but you know what he was trying to get at...puh-lease that is not going to happen...I shouldn't have left you guys in the dust but at the chance to meet IA, I was kind of like, whatever...see ya! I told Andy I had to go get my "uncle" hahaha
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 21:43:45 GMT -5
[/iquote author=admin board=lyrics thread=33 post=153 time=1252960960]Every time I hear Farm on the Freeway I think of Dan and his daughter. I think she was 9 when she told me that song was her favorite Tull song. That was a good time meeting you, Billy Fingas and Holly! My daughter was 9 at the time and now that she is 14 and in High School and I'm sure her return on ebay is considerably less now. However, checking her Ipod library, between the Jesse McCartney's, Demi Lovato's and David Archuleta's , she still has JT'S Farm On The Freeway, Locomotive Breath, El Nino, Rainbow Blues and Down At The End Of your Road. The latter, I believe is solely for the 'send doggie poo-poos in your morning mail'.[/quote] LOL. Didn't we all do the same with Pink Floyd's Money? And even with Tull's Solitaire, Two Fingers, Locomotive Breath, etc. Time flies doesn't it?
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 21:44:26 GMT -5
Good man. We shared bruised fruit. That did suck that Andy left the two of us behind. I should have said something... Yeah but you know what he was trying to get at...puh-lease that is not going to happen...I shouldn't have left you guys in the dust but at the chance to meet IA, I was kind of like, whatever...see ya! I told Andy I had to go get my "uncle" hahaha You did the right thing. Kenny and I effed up!
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 21:51:58 GMT -5
Then remember I think I called you, Dan and Tim very upset about the fact that IA didn't seem to believe I was a Tull fan. Just didn't look the part. I needed to be a 40 year old guy I guess. Ha. Not a 23 year old female (at the time...well I'm still female just not 23 anymore) Anyway, remember he seemed to think I wandered in backstage from somewhere, like I took a wrong turn...then he almost fell over to learn that I even traveled 3 hours to see them and that I was going back to my state to see them the next night too. I was surprised to see IA so surprised, he seemed like the type that not much would surprise him...but I did. Weird. but interesting.
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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2009 22:06:49 GMT -5
Then remember I think I called you, Dan and Tim very upset about the fact that IA didn't seem to believe I was a Tull fan. Just didn't look the part. I needed to be a 40 year old guy I guess. Ha. Not a 23 year old female (at the time...well I'm still female just not 23 anymore) Anyway, remember he seemed to think I wandered in backstage from somewhere, like I took a wrong turn...then he almost fell over to learn that I even traveled 3 hours to see them and that I was going back to my state to see them the next night too. I was surprised to see IA so surprised, he seemed like the type that not much would surprise him...but I did. Weird. but interesting. Yes, it is interesting. I thought of your meeting with Ian when Jeff told his story on the old board. Your age definitely threw Ian for a loop.
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Post by Mothfairy on Sept 14, 2009 22:28:05 GMT -5
What was Jeff's story?
I was told by some other people before that I didn't look like a Tull fan either...and these guys I think were even a couple years younger than me...I don't get it....
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