Vinyl

[tegman]

Analog man here. I recently added to a previous post. No one is paying attention. Check out this article from USA Today

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Just recently I finally decided to take the plunge and sprang for a new audiophile quality, newly designed turntable. My life has been changed forever.

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Mar 23, 2013 10:37:04 GMT -5 tegman said:

Analog man here. I recently added to a previous post. No one is paying attention. Check out this article from USA Today

usat.ly/10oowrU

Just recently I finally decided to take the plunge and sprang for a new audiophile quality, newly designed turntable. My life has been changed forever.

I am!

I want a return to analogue, I set up my old system [not as sophisticated as some] but having found problems with some componants I'm looking to possibly start again. So, I'm paying attention from a distance so to speak.

[TM]

I have to say I've never understood the whole vinyl thing. Maybe because I've never had a really great stereo.

But I just cannot take the snaps, crackles, and pops no matter how much you baby these things.

[Morthoron]

I have tinnitus in my right ear from overamplification of stage gear for 25+ years. The difference between a CD and 180 gram vinyl would be negligible for me. CDs (particularly remasters with different mixes) sound just fine to me and require far less care than vinyl.

[Mothfairy]

Vinyl requires more care? Yikes, thank goodness I don't have many of them. The results would be disastrous. Though my first time hearing some certain songs like "To cry you a song" were on my dad's records and I put them on a tape. haha.

Is there a lot of benefits to vinyl? My dad gave me a new record player to listen to the Tull records on but I never used it...

[Geoff CB]

Mar 23, 2013 21:06:11 GMT -5 Mothfairy said:

Vinyl requires more care? Yikes, thank goodness I don't have many of them. The results would be disastrous.

Yes, we know what you do to CDs!!! ;D

I have high quality vinyl equipment, and ironically, it's listening to vinyl that's caused me to buy high quality digital equipment so that CDs sound more tolerable!!

I don't own exotic Tull vinyl like some here, although I do have Roots To Branches on vinyl. And you don't get snap, crackle and pop with a cared for, clean and properly stored LPs! My Stand Up from the early 70s still sounds fine!

Geoff

[Mothfairy]

That's interesting, I had no idea vinyl was that good. My dad's records weren't that well taken care of...they were always dusty and many were just shoved in a pile. I guess the branch doesn't fall far from the root, doesn't it? Kind of embarrassing, but yeah that's me. Doesn't matter too much right now, A JT Collection is still stuck in the CD player in the car, I don't really listen to them in the house, but I do have to transfer the good CDs to the iPod, but that seems daunting with all the other things I have going on. I do love the sound of the iPod, with ear buds but in the car it all kind of sounds 'jarring and unpleasant' like IA would say. I didn't win last night's lottery but if I had I think I'd hire someone to organize my music because apparently, I'm not up to the task.

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Mar 25, 2013 13:26:51 GMT -5 Mothfairy said:

That's interesting, I had no idea vinyl was that good. My dad's records weren't that well taken care of...they were always dusty and many were just shoved in a pile. I guess the branch doesn't fall far from the root, doesn't it? Kind of embarrassing, but yeah that's me. Doesn't matter too much right now, A JT Collection is still stuck in the CD player in the car, I don't really listen to them in the house, but I do have to transfer the good CDs to the iPod, but that seems daunting with all the other things I have going on. I do love the sound of the iPod, with ear buds but in the car it all kind of sounds 'jarring and unpleasant' like IA would say. I didn't win last night's lottery but if I had I think I'd hire someone to organize my music because apparently, I'm not up to the task.

Those that grew up on vinyl got used to the great artwork, being able to read the lyrics, having to listen to entire sides at a time, and even sometimes getting a cool poster or something inside. Without having the Internet or music videos back then this is how you enjoyed music. You put the record on and sat down with the cover. It was an experience and Tull was a perfect band for this. As for the sound, first you need to actually care about how it sounds. Most of us now would rather watch our HD TV rather than SD and it should be the same with music. You want to have good equipment. If you do then some vinyl can sound unreal. Both Cd's and records can sound good or bad it all depends on how they are produced and pressed. You can only really tell by listening. Cd's tend to sound brighter with more compression which evens out the overall sound. A good vinyl will sound lifelike as though the band were in the room playing for you. You can get better separation of instruments and more of a punch. Usually the first pressings are the ones you look for as they tend to sound the best. Almost like a fist generation tape. The original first pressing of a record will be harder to find therefore go for more money. For instance the early Tull records you would want to buy would have the brown or brown and pink Reprise label in the USA or pink Island label in the UK.

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I love collecting vinyl. I am always looking for Tull 7" or albums. Looking more for the more hard to find Tull lp's, imports and such, various radio shows, promos, and other obscure stuff.

I always thought vinyl sounded so smooth, when I had my entire system set up the vinyl always sounded better then CD's. It has been boxed for the most part and I am left with my CD's, which I have gotten so used to now. If I ever get everything set up again, I hope I can still hear the difference.

Plus it so much easier reading the album notes and lyrics on a 12 by 12 area than a CD .

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Sadly, I've given up on collecting vinyl other than Tull.

Most of my vinyl went into storage in the 80's for one reason or another [Divorce being one of them] and since those years coincided with the boom in CD's I switched to those horrible little discs with covers that need to be read with a scanning electron microscope and restricted my vinyl purchases to Tull and Tull related stuff alone.

But I love vinyl, the sheer size associated with it, the physical act of playing the record, even prior to that, going out to record stores, flicking theough racks of albums, taking it home, taking it round mates and sharing it.

Nowadays it's very much more a solitary personal experience, as Greg Lake recently said that sharing of music has been relegated on the back of digital music and personal music players.

But then again if it wasn't for digital media and the genorosity of Tull fans, I wouldn't have all those wonderful Jethro Tull concerts .....I still like a LP cover, a vinyl album and a turntable though.

[Mothfairy]

I have a few Tull vinyls maybe a Rush one. I don't listen though. I just keep them. You guys are making me want to reconsider listening. Would be awesome to get one signed. I really don't even remember which ones I have. I know that probably sounds crazy. I think I have TAAB, LITP, MU, OM..could be others, they are all from my dad. I've done the listening to Tull on vinyl thing. At my dad's you put a record on, and put these enormous headphones on, they'd kill my head and ears after a little while. And this was in the late 90's. I put on the compilation that has APP edit 9, To Cry You a Song...I don't remember the name of it right now, but that was the first time I'd heard those two things and I loved it. I taped it onto a blank tape and wrote "Cool Music" on the insert. My dad refused to part with any of his records so he went out to buy them for me, so I think a couple of mine are still in plastic. Majority are used.

Edited to say I remember, it was the Repeat compilation. I meant compilation not the other thing I was trying to call it, LOL. And I think it was my first time hearing Warchild and I remember spitting out my drink because of a misheard lyric.

[Prompter]

I could put it this way: if I wish to consume a piece of music, I go to YouTube. If I wish to listen to it, I put the record on and sit in my armchair. For me it's like choosing between reading something in print or in PDF format.

[Geoff CB]

Mar 25, 2013 15:21:48 GMT -5 @tulltapes said:

You put the record on and sat down with the cover. It was an experience, and Tull was a perfect band for this.

So true! I'd follow the lyrics. A very personal experience. I still do this occasionally!

Mar 25, 2013 15:21:48 GMT -5 @tulltapes said:

As for the sound, first you need to actually care about how it sounds. Most of us now would rather watch our HD TV rather than SD and it should be the same with music. You want to have good equipment. If you do then some vinyl can sound unreal. Both CD's and records can sound good or bad it all depends on how they are produced and pressed. You can only really tell by listening. CD's tend to sound brighter with more compression which evens out the overall sound. A good vinyl will sound lifelike as though the band were in the room playing for you. You can get better separation of instruments and more of a punch.

Well said. I have nice sounding CDs and LPs, but LPs are more fun. When I turn up my outdoor patio (vinyl) stereo I use for parties/BBQs with its horn speakers and subwoofer, you could sometimes swear a band was playing live! Throw on a 12" 45 rpm and... wow!

Mar 25, 2013 15:21:48 GMT -5 @tulltapes said:

Usually the first pressings are the ones you look for as they tend to sound the best. Almost like a fist generation tape. The original first pressing of a record will be harder to find therefore go for more money. For instance the early Tull records you would want to buy would have the brown or brown and pink Reprise label in the USA or pink Island label in the UK.

Back in the day, the US pressings were nice, usually with better cardboard sleeves. My early 70s Stand Up is great compared to the Aussie pressing I used to own, which didn't even "stand up"!

Mind you, one can spend too much on certain pressings - my German DMM white vinyl pressing of the Beatles white album cost me a bit much - although it sounds great! I have a TAAB centennial edition vinyl on its way, as well as a signed Rock Island LP - I don't even particularly like Rock Island!

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Mar 28, 2013 18:43:59 GMT -5 Geoff CB said:

Mar 25, 2013 15:21:48 GMT -5 @tulltapes said:

You put the record on and sat down with the cover. It was an experience, and Tull was a perfect band for this.

So true! I'd follow the lyrics. A very personal experience. I still do this occasionally!



Well said. I have nice sounding CDs and LPs, but LPs are more fun. When I turn up my outdoor patio (vinyl) stereo I use for parties/BBQs with its horn speakers and subwoofer, you could sometimes swear a band was playing live! Throw on a 12" 45 rpm and... wow!

Mar 25, 2013 15:21:48 GMT -5 @tulltapes said:

Usually the first pressings are the ones you look for as they tend to sound the best. Almost like a fist generation tape. The original first pressing of a record will be harder to find therefore go for more money. For instance the early Tull records you would want to buy would have the brown or brown and pink Reprise label in the USA or pink Island label in the UK.

Back in the day, the US pressings were nice, usually with better cardboard sleeves. My early 70s Stand Up is great compared to the Aussie pressing I used to own, which didn't even "stand up"!

Mind you, one can spend too much on certain pressings - my German DMM white vinyl pressing of the Beatles white album cost me a bit much - although it sounds great! I have a TAAB centennial edition vinyl on its way, as well as a signed Rock Island LP - I don't even particularly like Rock Island!

I have had and sold some original pressing jazz LP's which were the best recordings I have ever heard period! Probably why they went for $900 and $1400. 'Sonny Clark Trio' and 'Chet Baker in New York'..