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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 30, 2014 13:18:49 GMT -5
You guys are funny. How long did it take you to finally find a less then stellar review (and of course post it)? Yes this review was posted on the other board with all of the other positive reviews (not that this one is bad) but it seems like a very selective choice. I would agree with the reviewer that having Ryan sing in place of Ian ( Ian should sing all songs, his voice seemed stronger than it has been in a long time) is what places it into near cover band territory (which is exactly what Martin's band is), but unless you've seen the show live and have an opinion of it from a live experience it carries little water with me, not that any of the negative Nellie's on this board care. HE isn't for everyone but there seem to be quite a few folks that enjoy it. If you're actually going to post a review, why not post a few of the very positive ones from the vast majority consensus? This is a JT board of fans...I think. It's no wonder the posts are so few here now. It used to be the board of choice for most but sadly it's living and dying in the past. Hi Tom, I just wanted to respond by saying that since day one, the Jethro Tull Board has always been a place where anyone can call it as they see it, unlike other sites which mostly feature unadulterated praise of Ian Anderson. We are all mega Tull fans, obviously, and there is an enormous amount of praise here, but we have always tried to maintain complete independence and an irreverent sense of humor, which has included, at times, poking fun at our musical heroes, and a healthy dose of criticism. The last thing we ever wanted was for us to become a PR outlet for the band, or for anyone here to feel constrained in expressing their opinions. Personally, I used to contribute tons of things for the Board and would continue to do so, if I had the time, energy and same level of interest. But work and family responsibilities do not permit me to devote the same amount of time. Also, the truth is that, for me, the official end of the Ian-Martin relationship (for whatever reason it ended, and I'm sure Martin bore part of the blame) has been very disheartening. I just do not care that much for the current guitarist's style of playing, and as Dan pointed out, I am no longer as enamored with Ian's lyrics as I once was, particularly with regard to H.E., which in my opinion (apart from three or four songs) contains some of the worst lyrics he has ever written. These days, like Paul said, the Board has become more of a hobby for me than an unpaid job, and I am perfectly content with having a smaller group of friends and normal fans without any of the drama and craziness that used to take place here. Having said that, I can tell you that I am working on a number of things currently, which will be quite interesting and unique for our members here when I get the time to complete them, and I would welcome your greater participation on the board! Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 30, 2014 13:20:30 GMT -5
You guys are funny. How long did it take you to finally find a less then stellar review (and of course post it)? Yes this review was posted on the other board with all of the other positive reviews (not that this one is bad) but it seems like a very selective choice. I would agree with the reviewer that having Ryan sing in place of Ian ( Ian should sing all songs, his voice seemed stronger than it has been in a long time) is what places it into near cover band territory (which is exactly what Martin's band is), but unless you've seen the show live and have an opinion of it from a live experience it carries little water with me, not that any of the negative Nellie's on this board care. HE isn't for everyone but there seem to be quite a few folks that enjoy it. If you're actually going to post a review, why not post a few of the very positive ones from the vast majority consensus? This is a JT board of fans...I think. It's no wonder the posts are so few here now. It used to be the board of choice for most but sadly it's living and dying in the past. Here's some more 'negative Nellieness ' to add fuel to the fire. Seeing the band twice this year and I don't really need to wait until Sunday to post a review. It will be the same as the past 7 years or so. It will always be better than sitting home watching television but nothing that gets me to use the words, "awesome, tremendous, inspiring....blah, blah, blah...etc." Will I have fun, yes, does he have great musicians, yes, will I wish I was watching a Jethro Tull Concert instead, yes. Corn flakes , Florian adulation, Ian is Tull aside, for me, listening to Martin play the guitar became more of a treat than watching Ian for their last 10 years. Without new music , I would not drive more than 10 miles to watch the band play a complete show of what Mr. A. thinks is the Best Of Tull. I've seen it all before and played better. A real Ian Anderson Only Show featuring Walk Into Light, Divinities, Rupi's Dance, a song or two from TAAB2 and H.E. and a couple of acoustic Tull songs is something I would gladly pay to hear but it will never happen because there is no money in it . Maybe it is even the age of instant/social media or a result of getting older but I do not share an earlier adulation about his own insights or philosophy on climate change, world over population, wars, politics, poverty, homosexuality ,etc... I wish he would just take a page from his idol, Zappa and just "Shut Up 'N Play Your Guitar." As far as the other Forum, there is only the same 5 or 6 people posting like all these sites and posts like this would be either demonized, deleted or met with private messages in my inbox. Trying to scroll through there and weed through all the bullshit (i.e . daily venue pics, strange album covers, one word threads...)to find a scrap of anything interesting that doesn't invoke blowing Ian by internet makes my head reel. But don't get the wrong idea that don't I love Tull music and think Ian Anderson is a musical genius but watching the Tour screen displaying images of the band in their heyday only makes me sad and wish they would rather play to a blank back drop. Dan Great post, Dan. I agree with what you have said here. Jeff
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Post by TM on Oct 30, 2014 13:33:12 GMT -5
Review from The Providence Journal on last night's show: Concert Review: Ian Anderson’s flute hits the highs, but his voice can't PROVIDENCE, R.I. — There were two problems with Ian Anderson’s concert at the Providence Performing Arts Center Wednesday night. And although the show had some nice moments, it never quite shook them. One is that his voice has lost much of its range and tone. Anderson, best known as lead singer, songwriter and flute player for Jethro Tull, used a second singer, Ryan O’Donnell, to help out on his tattered vocals. But while O’Donnell could hit the notes, he never had the conviction that Anderson showed in his prime. The second problem was that Anderson front-loaded the concert with seven songs from his lyrically dense but melodically sparse new album, “Homo Erraticus,” a concept album that attempts nothing less than a history of Britain from prehistoric times to the present — and beyond. The audience listened attentively, but didn’t become enthused until Anderson & Co. got into the Tull material...... Read more
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 30, 2014 13:48:25 GMT -5
Review from The Providence Journal on last night's show: Concert Review: Ian Anderson’s flute hits the highs, but his voice can't PROVIDENCE, R.I. — There were two problems with Ian Anderson’s concert at the Providence Performing Arts Center Wednesday night. And although the show had some nice moments, it never quite shook them. One is that his voice has lost much of its range and tone. Anderson, best known as lead singer, songwriter and flute player for Jethro Tull, used a second singer, Ryan O’Donnell, to help out on his tattered vocals. But while O’Donnell could hit the notes, he never had the conviction that Anderson showed in his prime. The second problem was that Anderson front-loaded the concert with seven songs from his lyrically dense but melodically sparse new album, “Homo Erraticus,” a concept album that attempts nothing less than a history of Britain from prehistoric times to the present — and beyond. The audience listened attentively, but didn’t become enthused until Anderson & Co. got into the Tull material...... Read moreAlthough I have not yet seen the show, I think that this is probably a fair assessment. I like the way the reviewer states that although Ryan can hit the high notes, he lacks the conviction with which Ian used to sing in his prime. I think that description aptly sums up how I feel too. That's why I believe Ian would have been better off with a guy like Paul Forrest (ex-DayGlo Pirate) or Tony Garone of Heresy. Those guys actually do sing the way Ian used to. We will be getting an example of that in two weeks, when both of them will perform with various tribute colloborations at the convention. The critic also hits the nail on the head with his description of the album as "lyrically dense." I would add the words "awkward" and "clumsy" to that description. That doesn't mean I don't like the new album, despite its flaws. I still think most of it is musically pretty good. My favorites are Doggerland, Puer Ferox Adventus and Cold Dead Reckoging, which I feel are the best songs lyrically. I also like the Meliora Sequamur. I think that one works well, and if you are going to make this kind of an album, you almost have to include a piece like that. Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 30, 2014 15:05:12 GMT -5
No prob brick. You're also entitled to your opinion but really now....you know there is no resemblance to Tull without Ian. ian is and always has been the creative genius behind the band. Without him there would be nothing. Martin's a great guitarist but without the ability write those unbelievable lyrics and music. Ian goes on and is too classy to call himself Tull but could easily do so. Your loss not making the shows and youtube is not a reliable indicator. Go to the other board and see the reviews of the show, both by the fans and critics, pretty clear that a whole lot of people think the last two tours which you sadly missed were damn good. Like the vast majority who went, I too saw the shows and think they were excellent. Go and then write your comments about the show, otherwise you should just relax and go see a good cover band when Martin comes to town. Tom, good point about Ian not calling the new band Tull. I think you're right, that the only reason he doesn't is because Martin is no longer in the band, and he is keeping his promise made years ago that without Martin Tull could not go on. I really don't buy the explanation that he is giving about him feeling uncomfortable usurping the name from the original Jethro Tull, as if he is guilty of "identity theft" of the historical figure. He has used the JT moniker for too long for that to be the reason. Jeff
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Post by Pieter on Nov 22, 2014 2:21:28 GMT -5
Got my ticket for a show in may next year, though it's not posted on the Tull site yet.
Thanks Frank for pointing it out to me, Pieter
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Post by Chea on Nov 27, 2014 6:08:31 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for new dates , hopefully soon, in GB or in my Country...
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Post by jgip on Dec 4, 2014 3:06:44 GMT -5
Interestingly enough there's no mention of Homo Erraticus on the LiveNation website. Their billing this show as an Ian Anderson Best of JT Show. Montclair, NJ ShowThis could present some trouble if a bunch of people head on out thinking their going to be hearing an entire evening of Tull's most famous songs performed the same as they are on record. We'll see...
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Post by jgip on Dec 4, 2014 3:21:07 GMT -5
Saw the show in Southern California....loved it. Of course like everyone else here I'd like to have chosen the 2nd half Setlist , but I wasn't asked for my input. I do have one trivia question for those that were paying attention. During the song WILD CHILD when Ian sings "got 12 good men now the gangs all here" What picture was on the screen behind the stage? I found this quite amusing. rack yer brains. no prize though.
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Post by Heavy Horse on Dec 4, 2014 4:46:37 GMT -5
It was "The Dirty Dozen", wasn't it?
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Post by Dan on Dec 4, 2014 7:37:06 GMT -5
It was "The Dirty Dozen", wasn't it? Ding ,ding ,ding...we have a winner! @3:36 mark. Dan
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Post by Geoff CB on Dec 5, 2014 19:16:28 GMT -5
Only 1 week of sleeps...
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Post by TM on Dec 11, 2014 22:36:49 GMT -5
Ian Anderson review: probably the best Jethro Tull cover band in the worldRating: 3.5 out of 5 starsIan Anderson - Concert Hall, December 11 Ian Anderson may be the first rock star to lead a cover band doing his own material. Having fronted Jethro Tull from 1967 until its apparent demise earlier this year, he now performs under his own name a live repertoire that is billed as the "best of Jethro Tull". After several Tull tours where his damaged voice was barely audible, Anderson had a solution of sorts in the form of Ryan O'Donnell – not so much a backing singer as a co-singer. O'Donnell is young, likable, energetic, talented and amusing, and, given Anderson's strain to reach so many notes, he could even take more of the lead vocals, and certainly double Anderson's parts more of the time. Yet when he did take over you had this odd feeling of a bloke fronting a Jethro Tull tribute band.... Read more: www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/ian-anderson-review-probably-the-best-jethro-tull-cover-band-in-the-world-20141212-125mlv.html#ixzz3LeQqcCgQ
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Post by Chea on Dec 12, 2014 9:07:54 GMT -5
Ian Anderson review: probably the best Jethro Tull cover band in the worldRating: 3.5 out of 5 starsIan Anderson - Concert Hall, December 11 Ian Anderson may be the first rock star to lead a cover band doing his own material. Having fronted Jethro Tull from 1967 until its apparent demise earlier this year, he now performs under his own name a live repertoire that is billed as the "best of Jethro Tull". After several Tull tours where his damaged voice was barely audible, Anderson had a solution of sorts in the form of Ryan O'Donnell – not so much a backing singer as a co-singer. O'Donnell is young, likable, energetic, talented and amusing, and, given Anderson's strain to reach so many notes, he could even take more of the lead vocals, and certainly double Anderson's parts more of the time. Yet when he did take over you had this odd feeling of a bloke fronting a Jethro Tull tribute band.... Read more: www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/ian-anderson-review-probably-the-best-jethro-tull-cover-band-in-the-world-20141212-125mlv.html#ixzz3LeQqcCgQ Interesting article, but, sorry, I find it very difficult to think of Ian Anderson Band a cover Band of JT's ...
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Post by Geoff CB on Dec 13, 2014 18:37:32 GMT -5
Interesting article, but, sorry, I find it very difficult to think of Ian Anderson Band a cover Band of JT's ... That was the tongue in cheek point of the article! Technically, they are a cover band, because they are not Tull! But it was a good review - we're not so used to good reviews here anymore. I saw them last night. I think the best I've seen from Ian since 94? There are arguments for and against, but Martin and Doane are gone, and this band has as much energy as the old days. I took my original ticket from 1972 for good luck - I didn't need it! We don't get many tours in Aus, and each time I think will be the last one, but I wonder now. This is Ian revitalised! Sorry, no photos to share, as they cracked down severely on photos. Geoff
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Post by PierreC on Jan 22, 2015 13:40:29 GMT -5
Funny read guys thank you.
Sorry i don't post much here but i read a lot. And it's funny this discussion as to say wether Ian is Tull or not and if he isnt well he shouldnt be playing Tull music...lol funny stuff.
Ian Anderson is Tull and Tull is Ian Anderson. The man and genius behind all of this is Ian Anderson and when you go to attend a gig you shall keep that in mind. i've seen over 65 gigs in 45 years and this is the way i see it; i like what Ian Anderson creates, he can call his show whatever he likes it won't bother me, i know he is behind every notes that is being played live. The band don't have a word to say about it and that's the way it should be.
Look how the other musicians who left the band have done since there departure ? Name one succesful ?...you can't find one, not even Martin Barre whose performing in front of small crowds.
Most of them are gone, quit music.
Ian Anderson may have a huge ego and could be difficult to work with...but he is a musical genius who made his unknown musicians playing with him wealthy man.
They should thank him.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Jan 23, 2015 2:01:26 GMT -5
Funny read guys thank you. Sorry i don't post much here but i read a lot. And it's funny this discussion as to say wether Ian is Tull or not and if he isnt well he shouldnt be playing Tull music...lol funny stuff. Ian Anderson is Tull and Tull is Ian Anderson. The man and genius behind all of this is Ian Anderson and when you go to attend a gig you shall keep that in mind. i've seen over 65 gigs in 45 years and this is the way i see it; i like what Ian Anderson creates, he can call his show whatever he likes it won't bother me, i know he is behind every notes that is being played live. The band don't have a word to say about it and that's the way it should be. Look how the other musicians who left the band have done since there departure ? Name one succesful ?...you can't find one, not even Martin Barre whose performing in front of small crowds. Most of them are gone, quit music. Ian Anderson may have a huge ego and could be difficult to work with...but he is a musical genius who made his unknown musicians playing with him wealthy man. They should thank him. Not until he thanks the band first, being that some 20% of the music, at least, was contributed by band members. What would it have been without Martin, Pegg and Palmer's contributions to composition, and Barlow's influence on the writing. And then too other keyboard members - Evans, Giddings and especially Vetese adding additional material as well. Tull was a band, at least for twenty years anyway. As for the success of other members since, I don't think success can be judged all together by venue size or sales. Mainly instrumental music isn't going to play as well as the traditional song format and Ian being a front man and vocalist will draw bigger. Compared to Michael Jackson, The Eagles or Madonna I suppose IA isn't much of a success then by that standard. It's all relative. Who would sell more records, The Edge or Bono? McCartney or Ringo? Allan Holdsworth is generally regarded as perhaps the greatest improvasational guitarist that has ever lived, and he plays small theaters and clubs and has record sales in the thousands not millions. Yet by the standards imposed on his nitch of the industry he is a successful musician. It's tough making a living playing original music of any kind, I know, and anyone who has managed it for forty-five years would be a success in my book. Martin Barre is a succes and has nothing left to prove to anyone. And that goes for most of the former members as well.
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Post by Pieter on Jan 23, 2015 2:16:59 GMT -5
Funny read guys thank you. Sorry i don't post much here but i read a lot. And it's funny this discussion as to say wether Ian is Tull or not and if he isnt well he shouldnt be playing Tull music...lol funny stuff. Ian Anderson is Tull and Tull is Ian Anderson. The man and genius behind all of this is Ian Anderson and when you go to attend a gig you shall keep that in mind. i've seen over 65 gigs in 45 years and this is the way i see it; i like what Ian Anderson creates, he can call his show whatever he likes it won't bother me, i know he is behind every notes that is being played live. The band don't have a word to say about it and that's the way it should be. Look how the other musicians who left the band have done since there departure ? Name one succesful ?...you can't find one, not even Martin Barre whose performing in front of small crowds. Most of them are gone, quit music. Ian Anderson may have a huge ego and could be difficult to work with...but he is a musical genius who made his unknown musicians playing with him wealthy man. They should thank him. Not until he thanks the band first, being that some 20% of the music, at least, was contributed by band members. What would it have been without Martin, Pegg and Palmer's contributions to composition, and Barlow's influence on the writing. And then too other keyboard members - Evans, Giddings and especially Vetese adding additional material as well. Tull was a band, at least for twenty years anyway. As for the success of other members since, I don't think success can be judged all together by venue size or sales. Mainly instrumental music isn't going to play as well as the traditional song format and Ian being a front man and vocalist will draw bigger. Compared to Michael Jackson, The Eagles or Madonna I suppose IA isn't much of a success then by that standard. It's all relative. Who would sell more records, The Edge or Bono? McCartney or Ringo? Allan Holdsworth is generally regarded as perhaps the greatest improvasational guitarist that has ever lived, and he plays small theaters and clubs and has record sales in the thousands not millions. Yet by the standards imposed on his nitch of the industry he is a successful musician. It's tough making a living playing original music of any kind, I know, and anyone who has managed it for forty-five years would be a success in my book. Martin Barre is a succes and has nothing left to prove to anyone. And that goes for most of the former members as well. And let's not forget that Tull -the band- made it big, big sales, big venues. But also Ian is playing much smaller venues now. I agree that most of waht Tull was, was because of Ian. But not all of it. Than yes, it's the boss's perogative to decide, and the loyal band's right to be pissed off.
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Post by TM on Jan 23, 2015 11:16:53 GMT -5
Not until he thanks the band first, being that some 20% of the music, at least, was contributed by band members. What would it have been without Martin, Pegg and Palmer's contributions to composition, and Barlow's influence on the writing. And then too other keyboard members - Evans, Giddings and especially Vetese adding additional material as well. Tull was a band, at least for twenty years anyway. As for the success of other members since, I don't think success can be judged all together by venue size or sales. Mainly instrumental music isn't going to play as well as the traditional song format and Ian being a front man and vocalist will draw bigger. Compared to Michael Jackson, The Eagles or Madonna I suppose IA isn't much of a success then by that standard. It's all relative. Who would sell more records, The Edge or Bono? McCartney or Ringo? Allan Holdsworth is generally regarded as perhaps the greatest improvasational guitarist that has ever lived, and he plays small theaters and clubs and has record sales in the thousands not millions. Yet by the standards imposed on his nitch of the industry he is a successful musician. It's tough making a living playing original music of any kind, I know, and anyone who has managed it for forty-five years would be a success in my book. Martin Barre is a succes and has nothing left to prove to anyone. And that goes for most of the former members as well. And let's not forget that Tull -the band- made it big, big sales, big venues. But also Ian is playing much smaller venues now. I agree that most of waht Tull was, was because of Ian. But not all of it. Than yes, it's the boss's perogative to decide, and the loyal band's right to be pissed off. Imagine yourself at your job or with friends and family and those people making you feel as if you weren't important to them. That's really all this is about isn't it?
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Post by PierreC on Jan 23, 2015 23:47:17 GMT -5
Barlow is one of the finest drummer that ever lived.
What has he done since he left ? .nothing.
Pegg is one of the finest guitar/bass player of all time. What has he done since ? Yes he played with fairport but... you know what i mean.
Martin is reproducing Tull material.
What i mean to say is that without Ian geniuses we wouldnt be talking about Barre, Giddings, Barlow or Evans, as great as they were the man behind the music we all love is Ian Anderson.
A Genius is a genius. Anderson cannot play well most instruments but can create masterpiece...something the others can't.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Jan 24, 2015 2:21:21 GMT -5
Barlow is one of the finest drummer that ever lived. What has he done since he left ? .nothing. Pegg is one of the finest guitar/bass player of all time. What has he done since ? Yes he played with fairport but... you know what i mean. Martin is reproducing Tull material. What i mean to say is that without Ian geniuses we wouldnt be talking about Barre, Giddings, Barlow or Evans, as great as they were the man behind the music we all love is Ian Anderson. A Genius is a genius. Anderson cannot play well most instruments but can create masterpiece...something the others can't. Well, a genius is one with an IQ of 140 or better, some test say 160. I don't know Ian's IQ so I don't know if he's a genius or not. But he does have a way with melody, writes good lyrics mostly, and has had a good deal of help from a batch of musicians that he should thank first. Right, we wouldn't be here talking if it weren't for Ian's ego, hard work and talent, but he isn't selling out the LA Forum or Madison Square Garden latey either is he. Jethro Tull was a band that Ian took over legally and so Tull became IA. Fair enough. But his claim, or so was said, that he was always Tull is somewhat dubious. Clive and Mick might have a say in that one. Pegg played with Fairport before he played with Tull and chose to quit Tull and remain with Fairport - Barlow went on to play with Ingwie Malmsteen, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page (heard of them?) and others. Martin is still playing Tull music. Well, so is Ian. Martin has the same right to do so as he contributed to 99% of the material for some forty-three or so years. I would also put forth the idea that a "masterpiece" is a subjective rating. Ian hasn't put out a masterpiece yet in my opinion, but Tull have, and Martin and Barlow were on those. And how do know the others can't create a masterpiece? They spent most of their time helping Ian create a couple of Tull masterpieces so we don't know, unless one would say Martin or Pegg already have. It's subjective. And finally, how many top ten albums has IA had? What kind of solo career would he have had without the name Jethro Tull backing his every career move. How much success has he had apart from having Martin at his side? Would he have made an impact based on his first album Walk Into Light had he been an unknown? And just because some of the others have quit and IA continued says as much for IA's drive and personality as talent. Every former musician who is still playing is certainly better at what they do now than IA is a singer. Perhaps IA should have quit at the same time some of the others did. I liked IA's last album but his live vocals are at the point of embarrassement. Having heard a Barlow solo a couple years ago, that certainly isn't the case with him.
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Post by TM on Jan 24, 2015 18:23:54 GMT -5
Barlow is one of the finest drummer that ever lived. What has he done since he left ? .nothing. Pegg is one of the finest guitar/bass player of all time. What has he done since ? Yes he played with fairport but... you know what i mean. Martin is reproducing Tull material. What i mean to say is that without Ian geniuses we wouldnt be talking about Barre, Giddings, Barlow or Evans, as great as they were the man behind the music we all love is Ian Anderson. A Genius is a genius. Anderson cannot play well most instruments but can create masterpiece...something the others can't. Pierre, I think most artists that had huge success with a band don't enjoy the same kind of commercial success on their own. Especially when they are not singers. As an example what has Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones done without Robert Plant?
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Post by Tullabye on Jan 24, 2015 22:16:50 GMT -5
The truth is that musicians and singers are easy to come by. It's the writing of lyrics and music that sets people apart. Ian is one of the greatest composers and lyricists that's ever lived. Hats off to him.
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Post by TM on Jan 24, 2015 23:32:16 GMT -5
And hats off to all members of Tull!
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Post by Bassackwards on Jan 25, 2015 0:48:05 GMT -5
Barlow is one of the finest drummer that ever lived. What has he done since he left ? .nothing. Pegg is one of the finest guitar/bass player of all time. What has he done since ? Yes he played with fairport but... you know what i mean. Martin is reproducing Tull material. What i mean to say is that without Ian geniuses we wouldnt be talking about Barre, Giddings, Barlow or Evans, as great as they were the man behind the music we all love is Ian Anderson. A Genius is a genius. Anderson cannot play well most instruments but can create masterpiece...something the others can't. Well, a genius is one with an IQ of 140 or better, some test say 160. I don't know Ian's IQ so I don't know if he's a genius or not. But he does have a way with melody, writes good lyrics mostly, and has had a good deal of help from a batch of musicians that he should thank first. Right, we wouldn't be here talking if it weren't for Ian's ego, hard work and talent, but he isn't selling out the LA Forum or Madison Square Garden latey either is he. Jethro Tull was a band that Ian took over legally and so Tull became IA. Fair enough. But his claim, or so was said, that he was always Tull is somewhat dubious. Clive and Mick might have a say in that one. Pegg played with Fairport before he played with Tull and chose to quit Tull and remain with Fairport - Barlow went on to play with Ingwie Malmsteen, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page (heard of them?) and others. Martin is still playing Tull music. Well, so is Ian. Martin has the same right to do so as he contributed to 99% of the material for some forty-three or so years. I would also put forth the idea that a "masterpiece" is a subjective rating. Ian hasn't put out a masterpiece yet in my opinion, but Tull have, and Martin and Barlow were on those. And how do know the others can't create a masterpiece? They spent most of their time helping Ian create a couple of Tull masterpieces so we don't know, unless one would say Martin or Pegg already have. It's subjective. And finally, how many top ten albums has IA had? What kind of solo career would he have had without the name Jethro Tull backing his every career move. How much success has he had apart from having Martin at his side? Would he have made an impact based on his first album Walk Into Light had he been an unknown? And just because some of the others have quit and IA continued says as much for IA's drive and personality as talent. Every former musician who is still playing is certainly better at what they do now than IA is a singer. Perhaps IA should have quit at the same time some of the others did. I liked IA's last album but his live vocals are at the point of embarrassement. Having heard a Barlow solo a couple years ago, that certainly isn't the case with him. Michael Crow my own my! Why do you go on about this so! Let's see, Ian has written several hundred songs and you must say at least 100 of them are amazing! The total of 28 or so tall musicians have contributed what three or four songs to the Tullrepertoire ? Let's see what else comes to mind? Ian plays the flute and the acoustic guitar and oh yeah that's right his voice is on 95% of all the songs plus another odd assortment of instruments including the saxophone and mandolin occasionally.Martin basically plays the guitar and whoever the other three are depending upon the year basically contribute three other instruments to the mix. So Ian to almost every song for over 45 years contributes the songwriting plus 3 of the major instruments, voice, flute and guitar. and all the other musicians combined who happened to be in Tulland any given moment contribute four parts more or less. Martin even said that The arrangements he has done he basically did what any guitarist should do for the band they are in and occasionally wrote musical parts that we were a bit more than arranging, and that was part of what he is paid for. I can't imagine where u are coming from. I do agreewith you in one aspect though. It does seem that Ian does not have a good way with his fellow musicians sometimes. But that's kind of out of my realm of expertise. You have to really be close to the band to really know what's going on there
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