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Post by Dan on Mar 11, 2014 10:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 11, 2014 10:14:51 GMT -5
That's awesome, Dan.....thanks! Jeff |
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Post by TM on Mar 11, 2014 10:25:59 GMT -5
Thanks Danno! There are some pretty sweet sounding pieces around #8,9,11 and such. Nice find!
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Post by Morthoron on Mar 11, 2014 12:40:10 GMT -5
Some very nice sounding stuff, but some equally derivative drivel as well (2 and 14 might as well be on TAAB2 and left there to rot). I really like numbers 5, 8 and 9. Still, not a lot of new ground here. Sounds more borrowed, if you know what I mean.
And for Christ's sake, can we finally all agree that Florian should go home and Ian should beg Martin's forgiveness (and Barrie Barlow's, for that matter)?
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Post by TM on Mar 11, 2014 12:52:02 GMT -5
Exactly my take. Some samples turned me off while others are pretty exciting.
Every once in a while I'd find myself contemplating how Barrie would have influenced particular songs, and now the same happens with Martin. But let's hope once we hear the entire album those thoughts don't come to mind.
The samples don't reflect the "metal" flavors we were told to expect. Perhaps this is intentional? Also, I didn't hear a trace of the old 'rock flute' as well. I guess we'll have to wait and see....
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 11, 2014 16:33:18 GMT -5
Exactly my take. Some samples turned me off while others are pretty exciting. Every once in a while I'd find myself contemplating how Barrie would have influenced particular songs, and now the same happens with Martin. But let's hope once we hear the entire album those thoughts don't come to mind. The samples don't reflect the "metal" flavors we were told to expect. Perhaps this is intentional? Also, I didn't hear a trace of the old 'rock flute' as well. I guess we'll have to wait and see.... We often thought of Barry, and now Martin, because it was a band and they influenced the writing process, as did Pegg and Palmer. Martin in particular must have contributed quite a bit and that has become more apparant since he has been releasing his own albums and we better see his writing style. But this new album isn't Tull so I can accept it on those terms. As such, judging by the samples, I'm not as critical of it so far as some seem to be. I might feel different once I hear it all but as a whole it seems like it is quite good. Ian's knack for melody is definaltly there, it has some depth and good musicianship. The voice is here and there but overall about what one would expect or a mite better. I can't help but think what Martin's influence would have been on this material too but again, this ain't Tull, so who cares - well, a lot of folks obviously. I'll take tracks 1,3,5 and 9 of this lot of samples - if memory serves. Nothing really irritates me yet, or turns me off, so I'll save judgement and say no clunkers yet. |
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Post by Tullabye on Mar 11, 2014 17:25:34 GMT -5
When I access the website using the link provided all I get is the track listings...no samples. I know I'm probably doing something wrong but any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 11, 2014 17:34:13 GMT -5
Damn...I can't access any samples!!! Did they move them away??? Anyone?
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Post by Preston Platform on Mar 11, 2014 17:39:54 GMT -5
It appears that they have been taken down. I managed to hear them before , but they are no longer there.
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Post by Lucas on Mar 11, 2014 19:20:04 GMT -5
Oh man.... that's sad.
Did someone by any chance save those samples?
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Post by Dan on Mar 11, 2014 19:34:24 GMT -5
They must of been posted prior to Tull Management approval or whatever.
Silly reason to have them taken down, if that is the case, as it generated interest in the new album /cd.
Someone must be paying attention to what we're looking at.
They were short clips and had no ability to download them, sorry.
Dan
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Post by Lucas on Mar 11, 2014 19:49:25 GMT -5
Well, guess I'll to wait for samples in the official site. Anyway the release date is approching. Around May my copy should arrive!  |
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Post by Bassackwards on Mar 12, 2014 12:25:18 GMT -5
CRAP!
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Post by Zombywoof on Mar 12, 2014 13:10:54 GMT -5
Some nice stuff here:
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 12, 2014 14:47:34 GMT -5
Sounds quite nice, yet it's same old Tull cliche afteral.....oooops, did I say "Tull"!?  |
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Post by TM on Mar 12, 2014 15:05:27 GMT -5
Sounds quite nice, yet it's same old Tull cliche afteral.....oooops, did I say "Tull"!? Uh oh! It certainly does have a more Tull sound than previous solo albums to me ears. I particularly like that "Old Blood, New Veins" which made me think of LITP. |
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Post by homoDUNC78 on Mar 13, 2014 5:47:10 GMT -5
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO can't wait for this!!!!!!
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 13, 2014 12:58:10 GMT -5
Good news Homo-fans! There will be some H.E. music to hear on Polish radio 3 among other artists like Porcupine Tree, Asia etc. on Thursday/Friday night (depends what part of the world you're from) from 2:00 am - 4:00 am CET !! Here is the link for internet streaming : www.polskieradio.pl/Player/-3. Enjoy! |
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Post by Biggles on Mar 13, 2014 21:04:52 GMT -5
C'mon potential HomoE fans. Barrie gave us everything he had. And I never thought I'd hear myself saying this but, so did Martin. It was time to move on. TAAB2 has an element of sterility but, I don't hate it. I'm sort of on-board with this more grounded rhythm w/prog on top approach. Not many Birthdays left. Let's wait and see.
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 14, 2014 1:12:18 GMT -5
Well...I couldn't resist the temptation (and I hate myself for that) and I just had to throw my ear on streaming broadcast of Polish Radio3 (link posted in my previous post). This is the first time in my life that I started listening to a JT/IA album backwards....yeah, you got it right..."Cold Dead Reckoning" as the last track of the new album was on the menu. And no...it wasn't just a sample, but the whole damn "5:28" thing! Wait, I will press play button again (yeah I caught the stream and turned it into mp3) to make sure if I heard all right on the first two listens  Here, it's coming to my ears again....ya, like I'm listening to some weird collage of sounds from "Nightcap" and not some hardly awaited new album. On the other hand it could have easily come from some B class western movie (I doubt Clint Eastwood would be pleased with it). I think it also possesses that kind of bombastic (if not pretentious) feel of "Chateau D'isaster" thing (I'm really scared of the word "disaster" here) . And, oh no, please no...we're coming to around 3:00 where some really ugly, (and I mean "ugly") keyboard arrangements take part (honestly, it strucked me down to the floor , causing my dog to panic....how could you, Ian?!), which made me realising that Martin Barre is not the only man I miss, but Andrew Giddings as well (if not more). And what about the production? I still believe that nowadays a decent record can't be recorded and produced in "10 days" or so. At least this one is really nice example of home made music (let's leave some room for surprises when we hear the whole album). The best part of this 5:28 torture is the unexpected but beautiful outro (in spite of soapy production), but unfortunately it's somehow unconnected and therefore completely out of place (I suspect it also has to be somewhere else on the record and appears here as a reprise...we will see if I'm right ). In the end I can only hope that the rest of the album has something better to offer, but closing tracks are usualy not the worst, so my doubts are very strong and I really wonder if Ian's blind date with the Muze was a good idea !?  |
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Post by Lucas on Mar 15, 2014 13:44:16 GMT -5
My mind has just been blowed away.
Just heard Doggerland, courtesy of Juan Velardo from Aqualung-My God blog.
Awesome piece of music. Loved it, absolutely loved it. First listen was weird, almost awkward. You just need to get you head around that nothing will ever sound like classic Tull, and I listen to nowadays prog music and this has just the correct feeling to it. Reminded me a little of Nemo. Weird to hear that kind of guitar solo in Ian Anderson song, but just in the first listen.
Second listen had me hooked. A but of an eastern feel to it, more acoustic almost medieval moments pontuated by darker passages. Very good musicianship, even the drummer sounded a lot better. The band is getting tighter and mote coherent.
Absolutely loved it. Can't await for the whole thing!
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 15, 2014 15:05:46 GMT -5
My mind has just been blowed away. Just heard Doggerland, courtesy of Juan Velardo from Aqualung-My God blog. Awesome piece of music. Loved it, absolutely loved it. First listen was weird, almost awkward. You just need to get you head around that nothing will ever sound like classic Tull, and I listen to nowadays prog music and this has just the correct feeling to it. Reminded me a little of Nemo. Weird to hear that kind of guitar solo in Ian Anderson song, but just in the first listen. Second listen had me hooked. A but of an eastern feel to it, more acoustic almost medieval moments pontuated by darker passages. Very good musicianship, even the drummer sounded a lot better. The band is getting tighter and mote coherent. Absolutely loved it. Can't await for the whole thing! Yeah, I've heard "Doggerland" yesterday and didn't need second listen to like it. It hooked me instantly and it was a comforting plaster over "cdr" wounds. As an opener it's far better than "From A Peble Thrown". It has much resemblance with classic Tull...medieval parts alternating with some "Roots To Branches" flavor. Quite hard rocking, but better just forget about metal (who needs it anyway). Yet, there are some questionable mixing and production choices....surprisingly solid Ian's vocals are here and there dampened by too loud keyboards. Furthermore... Hammond organ intrusion which kicks in at 2:47 instantly destroys the delights of Florian's furious solo (bad choice)! Ofcourse I don't blame John for that ( afteral I watched "creations" video ) But then again we are already well acustomed to the fact that even the best Tull pieces often leave something to be desired, aren't we? And there is just one more thing that annoys me here....the ending, (which is fading out flute... sounds familiar?), but not necessarily because of the ending itself, but more due to whole bunch of late period Tull/IA stuff ending exactly the same way. This just has to be boring, if not plainly distasteful !!! It started with "Farm On The Freeway" (was ok then) and now there's no ending to it. It's beyond me why Ian is not paying atention to those things. I think simple chorus fading out would have been much more effective! But all in all, great track and possibly better than most of the stuff on TAAB2!! So let's just hope for some more pleasant surprises! |
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Post by TM on Mar 15, 2014 17:10:32 GMT -5
Well...I couldn't resist the temptation (and I hate myself for that) and I just had to throw my ear on streaming broadcast of Polish Radio3 (link posted in my previous post). This is the first time in my life that I started listening to a JT/IA album backwards....yeah, you got it right..."Cold Dead Reckoning" as the last track of the new album was on the menu. And no...it wasn't just a sample, but the whole damn "5:28" thing! Wait, I will press play button again (yeah I caught the stream and turned it into mp3) to make sure if I heard all right on the first two listens Here, it's coming to my ears again....ya, like I'm listening to some weird collage of sounds from "Nightcap" and not some hardly awaited new album. On the other hand it could have easily come from some B class western movie (I doubt Clint Eastwood would be pleased with it). I think it also possesses that kind of bombastic (if not pretentious) feel of "Chateau D'isaster" thing (I'm really scared of the word "disaster" here) . And, oh no, please no...we're coming to around 3:00 where some really ugly, (and I mean "ugly") keyboard arrangements take part (honestly, it strucked me down to the floor , causing my dog to panic....how could you, Ian?!), which made me realising that Martin Barre is not the only man I miss, but Andrew Giddings as well (if not more). And what about the production? I still believe that nowadays a decent record can't be recorded and produced in "10 days" or so. At least this one is really nice example of home made music (let's leave some room for surprises when we hear the whole album). The best part of this 5:28 torture is the unexpected but beautiful outro (in spite of soapy production), but unfortunately it's somehow unconnected and therefore completely out of place (I suspect it also has to be somewhere else on the record and appears here as a reprise...we will see if I'm right ). In the end I can only hope that the rest of the album has something better to offer, but closing tracks are usualy not the worst, so my doubts are very strong and I really wonder if Ian's blind date with the Muze was a good idea !? I heard all the samples that were put up on that website and I'm not sure if it was that track, but I heard at least one reminded me of the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. |
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Post by Zombywoof on Mar 15, 2014 19:48:31 GMT -5
Oldghost, a thought about the production - "Doggerland" was taken from a radio broadcast, right? From what I heard of it, it sounded like a lot of compression was added. This *could* be the reason for the dodgy sound. I'm sure it'll sound fine when we get the real thing.
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 15, 2014 20:38:20 GMT -5
Oldghost, a thought about the production - "Doggerland" was taken from a radio broadcast, right? From what I heard of it, it sounded like a lot of compression was added. This *could* be the reason for the dodgy sound. I'm sure it'll sound fine when we get the real thing. I would like to believe you're right, but i think that the problems described are not broadcast related. But let's wait and see! |
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Here, it's coming to my ears again....ya, like I'm listening to some weird collage of sounds from "Nightcap" and not some hardly awaited new album. On the other hand it could have easily come from some B class western movie (I doubt Clint Eastwood would be pleased with it). I think it also possesses that kind of bombastic (if not pretentious) feel of "Chateau D'isaster" thing (I'm really scared of the word "disaster" here) . And, oh no, please no...we're coming to around 3:00 where some really ugly, (and I mean "ugly") keyboard arrangements take part (honestly, it strucked me down to the floor , causing my dog to panic....how could you, Ian?!), which made me realising that Martin Barre is not the only man I miss, but Andrew Giddings as well (if not more). And what about the production? I still believe that nowadays a decent record can't be recorded and produced in "10 days" or so. At least this one is really nice example of home made music (let's leave some room for surprises when we hear the whole album). The best part of this 5:28 torture is the unexpected but beautiful outro (in spite of soapy production), but unfortunately it's somehow unconnected and therefore completely out of place (I suspect it also has to be somewhere else on the record and appears here as a reprise...we will see if I'm right 