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Post by Icy Lucifer on Apr 15, 2014 4:28:44 GMT -5
When I read this on a beautifully sunny spring morning I didn't fell too bad about it at all. Not surprised at all. And I don't think most folks will be either. It's a wonderful legacy. So many great memories. Really great memories. I am a little sad though. I would've liked one final tour for JT as a unit with Martin and Doanne there and some of the other guys. A combination of age and health stops me getting to the tour this year, but hey, nothing lasts forever. www.theguardian.com/music/2014/apr/15/ian-anderson-end-of-jethro-tullBest regards to Tullies everywhere! Icy L
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Post by Geoff CB on Apr 15, 2014 9:08:08 GMT -5
I think HE will be my last modern purchase if this is true.
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Post by Lucas on Apr 15, 2014 10:38:35 GMT -5
Well, JT is over but Ian isn't. My guess is that we'll have 2, maybe even 3 albums from him yet.
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Post by Geoff CB on Apr 16, 2014 10:15:00 GMT -5
I'm more interested in Tull than Ian - yes they're practically synonymous, but if there's no Tull, that's it for me. No tours down here anyway. Bah, humbug!
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Post by TM on Apr 16, 2014 16:21:29 GMT -5
Well in true IA fashion he contradicts himself yet again! But this time let's hope he's most recent comments pan out. "So the question is, really, am I gonna play with Martin again? There’s no reason that won’t happen, it’s just that it’s not something that’s currently scheduled to result in a concert or tours in the next 12 months. Because I know what I’m doing for the next 12 months, and I’m sure Martin does as well".Anderson, Barre and Palmer
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Post by Lucas on Apr 16, 2014 17:09:59 GMT -5
But the true question is, will Martin want to do it? I mean, he's doing new exciting stuff. I'm he would be thrilled to play with Ian if they did new stuff together also, but if Ian means another best of tour with no new material or album, will Martin be up to it?
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Post by housebrick on Apr 16, 2014 17:53:38 GMT -5
But the true question is, will Martin want to do it? I mean, he's doing new exciting stuff. I'm he would be thrilled to play with Ian if they did new stuff together also, but if Ian means another best of tour with no new material or album, will Martin be up to it? Cant see Martin ever wantin to play with Ian again to be honest. Martin is going in a different musical direction i.e more natural blues rock than Ian's church music to be fair. Ian really should take up politics as his answers in his interviews are clear as mud. Ive heard it all from Martin doesnt like spending time in recording studios to i dont wanna play Tull anymore then im doing the best of Tull tour. And then Martin sates he has a whale of a time spending long rewarding days in the studio with AWay with Words. Youve got to laugh at it all to be honest. Fair enough its Ians call but i think diehard Tull fans deserve at least a straight/honest answer to it all. Ian said years ago after Dot.com it wasnt worth making a new album as the sales dont pay off,Tull could have made at least 3 new albums in the years 1999-2011. Wasted years!!!! Anyway Ive bought HE listened to it 3 times and got to be honest think its pretty lame,it will probably go in the recycle bin im afraid. Gonna stick Stormwatch on tomorrow in the car now thats a bloody good album . Yep its another rant but hey lets be straight
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Post by TM on Apr 16, 2014 21:01:25 GMT -5
Martin has posted on his site that Tull "are taking a long break from touring," so they both seem open to an eventual reuniting.
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Post by conrad on Apr 17, 2014 11:39:34 GMT -5
This situation seems like it is straight out of Spinal Tap. Notice neither of them is saying NEVER, Even if they did, it still won’t rule out more Tull.
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Post by Lucas on Apr 17, 2014 13:36:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately I don't believe it will happen. I feel Martin will not go fot another Best Of tour, unless maybe if it is a Farewell Tour, and Ian doesn't seem to want to do anything new under the name Jethro Tull.
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Post by housebrick on Apr 17, 2014 14:55:10 GMT -5
Martin has posted on his site that Tull "are taking a long break from touring," so they both seem open to an eventual reuniting. Yes Martin posted that about 2 years or so ago. Things have changed since then,there has been no direct contact from Ian apparently. I cant see the point unless they do anything new . Ian said he didnt want to do anymore with Tull and now he wants to make his solo albums sound more like Tull than IA solo albums Bizzarre really ,dont think Einstein could work it all out lol!!!..
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Post by Lucas on Apr 17, 2014 18:28:03 GMT -5
I can understand. At least O have my understanding of it, that might be completely wrong. Ian wants to make his new music under his own name because people in the shows knows what waits for them and will not be dissapointed and making a fuss about a whole hour of new music before Tull songs. They will not be expecting to rock out and be anxious and noisy while he presents his new work. It's really quite understandable. And if he can't call it Tull then he can't have Martin onboard because even he knows at this point that Tull is Ian Anderson and Martin Barre at least. There's gotta be the two of them to be Tull, and there's no point calling IA solo if Martin is in it. That's why he looks at Tull as only repertoire, and that's why I think they will not work together under this name anymore.
There might be an album by the two of them, an acoustic or even a heavier work, but it wouldn't be Tull in name. What it would be only God knows.
And there might be a Tull Farewell Tour.
Nothing more than that.
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Post by TM on Apr 17, 2014 18:32:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately I don't believe it will happen. I feel Martin will not go fot another Best Of tour, unless maybe if it is a Farewell Tour, and Ian doesn't seem to want to do anything new under the name Jethro Tull. You may very well be right Lucas but you never know. The truth is the two guys are best when they work together.
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Post by homoDUNC78 on Apr 18, 2014 4:30:31 GMT -5
IA's next album will be a Jethro Tull album, but just himself and a string quartet. ........ his final farewell and eulogy to the repertoire of his band?
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Post by Lucas on Apr 18, 2014 6:05:45 GMT -5
Doubt it. But I'm done with concepts. I think he has more than one album in him, just wish it's stand alone songs in a more straight foward fashion.
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Post by Geoff CB on Apr 21, 2014 3:23:04 GMT -5
A farewell tour should have been planned, but now we overseas are really being ripped off as IA doesn't seem to do world tours. Thank goodness I saw Tull at the Byron Bay Bluesfest a few years ago. That was their last appearance here. Just a dreadful situation for antipodean fans.
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Post by housebrick on Apr 21, 2014 4:09:58 GMT -5
IA's next album will be a Jethro Tull album, but just himself and a string quartet. ........ his final farewell and eulogy to the repertoire of his band?
So it will be another IA solo album covering JT standards in a stripped down fashion very much like what MB has just done
Wouldnt you think both IA and MB would just have collaberated and combined for such a similar project??
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Post by Mix on Apr 21, 2014 8:54:25 GMT -5
A good while ago I mentioned the AND interview with Martin Barre. It sparked no debate. I've not posted much on this forum because, well, let's just say, its not what it used to be. But in the interview Martin said that James/Ian had contacted him to do some Jethro Tull gigs this year 2014, I guess a promoter wanted Jethro Tull with Martin so the opportunity was there. Martin declined. Reading between the lines, Martin was pissed that he's been by-passed the last two year with no communication from Ian. I'm not getting into the nitty gritty of their relationship, clearly it broke down a long time ago, but Martin wasn't gonna 'lower' himself to be used in this way. At least the was the general feeling of the interview. On the one hand I can totally understand where Martin was coming from. He's probably just too old and tired of being used in this manner. On the other hand, it could have been a life-line from Ian and had they sparked, perhaps they would have worked together more. It just seems to me that situation and Ian's conformation to put Tull to bed (meaning Jethro Tull with Martin Barre) is a coincidence. Ian's HE liner notes mentions Martin with much respect, I certainly don't think Ian doesn't value their life's work together, but his sudden surge of new material and excitement for moving forward does seem to have occurred since not working with Martin. I don't think its impossible that they will never work together again but I really don't see that happening unless they start talking and reform their relationship. Hypothetically, I wonder if FLorian left later this year whether Martin would get a call?.........
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Post by LJG on Apr 21, 2014 8:55:02 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one who thinks Ian's 'evasive' answers are the only possible ones.
Ian is smart enough to know that he should "never say never". Its pretty trite for bands... and band members... to declare they will never play together again and then do a 180 six years down the road to rake in the cash.
Truth is, nobody knows what the future holds or what might propel people to reconnect or otherwise. Ian not 'ruling out' playing with Martin in the future is the only honest answer he could give.
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Post by Mix on Apr 21, 2014 9:04:54 GMT -5
And did anyone notice the rather huge dig at Doane & Andrew Giddings from Ian in the recent AND interview. Its a weird one because in the case of Andy, who was crucial, dare I say a collaborator on Divinities and a big part of SLOB would be slammed by Ian. I was very surprised Ian said those things about those guys, he's normally pretty respectful and although I'm sure he wasn't meaning to be nasty, i'd be pretty hurt if I was Donae or Andy. I guess when you've been working with someone one for ten+ years or in Doane and Martin's case, decades, you reach a stage where you stop pushing the envelope, going the extra mile, settling instead for ease and reliability. Ian seemed to be communicating that difference between previous band members and new ones. Its certainly his prerogative to work with whoever he wants. He's such a driven unique man its inevitable that along the way people are sometimes let go. But I was very surprised to ready his comments.
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Post by Nonfatman on Apr 21, 2014 16:43:29 GMT -5
And did anyone notice the rather huge dig at Doane & Andrew Giddings from Ian in the recent AND interview. Its a weird one because in the case of Andy, who was crucial, dare I say a collaborator on Divinities and a big part of SLOB would be slammed by Ian. I was very surprised Ian said those things about those guys, he's normally pretty respectful and although I'm sure he wasn't meaning to be nasty, i'd be pretty hurt if I was Donae or Andy. I guess when you've been working with someone one for ten+ years or in Doane and Martin's case, decades, you reach a stage where you stop pushing the envelope, going the extra mile, settling instead for ease and reliability. Ian seemed to be communicating that difference between previous band members and new ones. Its certainly his prerogative to work with whoever he wants. He's such a driven unique man its inevitable that along the way people are sometimes let go. But I was very surprised to ready his comments. I haven't had time to download and read the latest New Day, so I haven't seen the interview. What did Ian say about Andy and Doane? Jeff
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Post by TM on Apr 21, 2014 19:12:12 GMT -5
A good while ago I mentioned the AND interview with Martin Barre. It sparked no debate. I've not posted much on this forum because, well, let's just say, its not what it used to be. But in the interview Martin said that James/Ian had contacted him to do some Jethro Tull gigs this year 2014, I guess a promoter wanted Jethro Tull with Martin so the opportunity was there. Martin declined. Reading between the lines, Martin was pissed that he's been by-passed the last two year with no communication from Ian. I'm not getting into the nitty gritty of their relationship, clearly it broke down a long time ago, but Martin wasn't gonna 'lower' himself to be used in this way. At least the was the general feeling of the interview. On the one hand I can totally understand where Martin was coming from. He's probably just too old and tired of being used in this manner. On the other hand, it could have been a life-line from Ian and had they sparked, perhaps they would have worked together more. It just seems to me that situation and Ian's conformation to put Tull to bed (meaning Jethro Tull with Martin Barre) is a coincidence. Ian's HE liner notes mentions Martin with much respect, I certainly don't think Ian doesn't value their life's work together, but his sudden surge of new material and excitement for moving forward does seem to have occurred since not working with Martin. I don't think its impossible that they will never work together again but I really don't see that happening unless they start talking and reform their relationship. Hypothetically, I wonder if FLorian left later this year whether Martin would get a call?......... Hi Mix, I had a fairly lengthy discussion last year with Martin and he mentioned the Tull gig he turned down. I've never spoken about before because I didn't want the Tull Board to spark any controversy between the two. Martin was pissed because a) the call to play with Ian came from James and b) the rehearsal period set aside for him was unacceptable.
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Post by conrad on Apr 22, 2014 7:37:09 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one who thinks Ian's 'evasive' answers are the only possible ones. Ian is smart enough to know that he should "never say never". Its pretty trite for bands... and band members... to declare they will never play together again and then do a 180 six years down the road to rake in the cash. Truth is, nobody knows what the future holds or what might propel people to reconnect or otherwise. Ian not 'ruling out' playing with Martin in the future is the only honest answer he could give. Agreed. Neither is saying NEVER and are smart enough not to do so.
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Post by Mix on Apr 22, 2014 9:20:43 GMT -5
A good while ago I mentioned the AND interview with Martin Barre. It sparked no debate. I've not posted much on this forum because, well, let's just say, its not what it used to be. But in the interview Martin said that James/Ian had contacted him to do some Jethro Tull gigs this year 2014, I guess a promoter wanted Jethro Tull with Martin so the opportunity was there. Martin declined. Reading between the lines, Martin was pissed that he's been by-passed the last two year with no communication from Ian. I'm not getting into the nitty gritty of their relationship, clearly it broke down a long time ago, but Martin wasn't gonna 'lower' himself to be used in this way. At least the was the general feeling of the interview. On the one hand I can totally understand where Martin was coming from. He's probably just too old and tired of being used in this manner. On the other hand, it could have been a life-line from Ian and had they sparked, perhaps they would have worked together more. It just seems to me that situation and Ian's conformation to put Tull to bed (meaning Jethro Tull with Martin Barre) is a coincidence. Ian's HE liner notes mentions Martin with much respect, I certainly don't think Ian doesn't value their life's work together, but his sudden surge of new material and excitement for moving forward does seem to have occurred since not working with Martin. I don't think its impossible that they will never work together again but I really don't see that happening unless they start talking and reform their relationship. Hypothetically, I wonder if FLorian left later this year whether Martin would get a call?......... Hi Mix, I had a fairly lengthy discussion last year with Martin and he mentioned the Tull gig he turned down. I've never spoken about before because I didn't want the Tull Board to spark any controversy between the two. Martin was pissed because a) the call to play with Ian came from James and b) the rehearsal period set aside for him was unacceptable. Hey TM, I can understand not wanting to stir the hornets nest here but to be fair, both Ian & Martin have publicly aired their views on the pretty much official fan club mag so as fans it seems like fair game to discus their comments. Shit happens in relationships and Ian and Martin are kinda like an old married couple who have recently separated. They'll spat at each other and make snide remarks but when it all boils down they still love and respect each other. I understand Ian's position but he does have a record of giving people the cold shoulder at times. We all tend to see Martin as the victim but I suspect they are both as bad as each other. Truth is we just wanna see them work together again someday.
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Post by Mix on Apr 22, 2014 9:27:25 GMT -5
And did anyone notice the rather huge dig at Doane & Andrew Giddings from Ian in the recent AND interview. Its a weird one because in the case of Andy, who was crucial, dare I say a collaborator on Divinities and a big part of SLOB would be slammed by Ian. I was very surprised Ian said those things about those guys, he's normally pretty respectful and although I'm sure he wasn't meaning to be nasty, i'd be pretty hurt if I was Donae or Andy. I guess when you've been working with someone one for ten+ years or in Doane and Martin's case, decades, you reach a stage where you stop pushing the envelope, going the extra mile, settling instead for ease and reliability. Ian seemed to be communicating that difference between previous band members and new ones. Its certainly his prerogative to work with whoever he wants. He's such a driven unique man its inevitable that along the way people are sometimes let go. But I was very surprised to ready his comments. I haven't had time to download and read the latest New Day, so I haven't seen the interview. What did Ian say about Andy and Doane? Jeff Jeff, you should download the mag and read it. Basically Ian says those guys couldn't have done what the new guys do. He dishes out some rather nasty comments with regards to them learning and recording new material. But as I say, Andrew Giddings was behind Divinities so that hasn't always been the case. I'm interested why Ian felt the need to say such things. Is he bitter about something? Is there more to this? Perhaps explaining why for so long there was no new material.
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