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Post by Nonfatman on May 13, 2014 12:55:21 GMT -5
My mother has long been extremely critical of my great interest in Tull, and all my Tull-related activities, and has subjected me to a great deal of sarcasm about it. Despite having attended several shows, and grudgingly admitted that she liked some of the songs and Ian's flute playing, she simply does not understand why I would spend so much time and money on Jethro Tull, making myself poorer and Ian Anderson ever-richer, in the process, especially when she hears about some of the negative aspects of Ian's personality and treatment of his fans.
She does not limit her disdain to me, or Ian Anderson. She doesn't particularly care for celebrities in general, or for people who idolize them. She cites as an example a deceased member of our family (by marriage, not by blood) who was known to be nuts -- mainly because of his total obsession with Danny Kaye - the actor/comedian from the 1950's and 60's. When she tells me about the lengths to which he took that obsession, it sounds very familiar...not unlike myself at times, or lots of other Tull fans, and I am a little embarrassed by it.
She believes this all to be an enormous waste of time and detrimental to business, health and family. So is she right?
Jeff
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Post by Heavy Horse on May 13, 2014 13:30:13 GMT -5
My mother has long been extremely critical of my great interest in Tull, and all my Tull-related activities, and has subjected me to a great deal of sarcasm about it. Despite having attended several shows, and grudgingly admitted that she liked some of the songs and Ian's flute playing, she simply does not understand why I would spend so much time and money on Jethro Tull, making myself poorer and Ian Anderson ever-richer, in the process, especially when she hears about some of the negative aspects of Ian's personality and treatment of his fans. She does not limit her disdain to me, or Ian Anderson. She doesn't particularly care for celebrities in general, or for people who idolize them. She cites as an example a deceased member of our family (by marriage, not by blood) who was known to be nuts -- mainly because of his total obsession with Danny Kaye - the actor/comedian from the 1950's and 60's. When she tells me about the lengths to which he took that obsession, it sounds very familiar...not unlike myself at times, or lots of other Tull fans, and I am a little embarrassed by it. She believes this all to be an enormous waste of time and detrimental to business, health and family. So is she right? Jeff Yes!
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Post by Tullabye on May 13, 2014 14:06:51 GMT -5
You're probably asking the wrong group. We're all Tull fanatics but that being said, no I think your mother is wrong. Tull and Ian merit our loyalty and have worked extremely hard to gain it. I think Ian is a tremendous role model and his/their creativity is unmatched in my world. The music and the moneys that you and I have spent will matter little to our overall well being but the music will.
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Post by Mix on May 13, 2014 14:26:22 GMT -5
Jeff, its simple. You get pleasure/entertainment from it.
Some people like Gardening, some folks like Sport, its all a similar thing. My Mrs doesn't really like any artist the way I like IA and a couple of others. I can't help it, I find him fascinating and his music really touches me. Sure, it maybe a bit weird but I wouldn't have it any other way. Without that music my life would have been less rich. And anyway, IA is a pretty out there guy to be into, hardly your typical celebrity. And its worth remember just a few of IA's achievements. Musically it doesn't get much better, he is unique, prolific and pushes musical boundaries. His lyrics are far from simple pop style and the subjects matters can be pretty deep and thought provoking. He's a great entertainer. Not to mention a business man, remember the 4-500 people he created jobs for with the fish biz. So a unique individual worthy of study me thinks. Now if only 1% off his success could rub off on me............
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Post by Morthoron on May 13, 2014 15:08:03 GMT -5
Jeff, you're mom's right. Tull sucks. I'm only here to troll.
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Post by TM on May 13, 2014 20:29:14 GMT -5
My mother has long been extremely critical of my great interest in Tull, and all my Tull-related activities, and has subjected me to a great deal of sarcasm about it. Despite having attended several shows, and grudgingly admitted that she liked some of the songs and Ian's flute playing, she simply does not understand why I would spend so much time and money on Jethro Tull, making myself poorer and Ian Anderson ever-richer, in the process, especially when she hears about some of the negative aspects of Ian's personality and treatment of his fans. She does not limit her disdain to me, or Ian Anderson. She doesn't particularly care for celebrities in general, or for people who idolize them. She cites as an example a deceased member of our family (by marriage, not by blood) who was known to be nuts -- mainly because of his total obsession with Danny Kaye - the actor/comedian from the 1950's and 60's. When she tells me about the lengths to which he took that obsession, it sounds very familiar...not unlike myself at times, or lots of other Tull fans, and I am a little embarrassed by it. She believes this all to be an enormous waste of time and detrimental to business, health and family. So is she right? Jeff As long as she's not accusing you of being sexually attracted to Ian like what happened to a friend of mine - so I heard. whistle
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Post by Nonfatman on May 14, 2014 10:13:06 GMT -5
Thanks, Tom and Mix....I feel a little better now. Still out upwards of around 30-40 K, though. (The amount that I estimate to have spent over the past 38 years on Jethro Tull shows, road trips, albums, merchandise, bootlegs, DVDs, collectibles, conventions, etc., etc.) Jeff
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Post by Mix on May 14, 2014 10:28:48 GMT -5
Thanks, Tom and Mix....I feel a little better now. Still out upwards of around 30-40 K, though. (The amount that I estimate to have spent over the past 38 years on Jethro Tull shows, road trips, albums, merchandise, bootlegs, DVDs, collectibles, conventions, etc., etc.) Jeff I take it all back, Jeff. You're a crazy fucker with too much spare cash
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Post by Nonfatman on May 14, 2014 10:35:54 GMT -5
Thanks, Tom and Mix....I feel a little better now. Still out upwards of around 30-40 K, though. (The amount that I estimate to have spent over the past 38 years on Jethro Tull shows, road trips, albums, merchandise, bootlegs, DVDs, collectibles, conventions, etc., etc.) Jeff I take it all back, Jeff. You're a crazy fucker with too much spare cash LMAO...you're right, except for the too much cash part, and that's probably the result of the last 38 years! Even now, what am I doing, certainly not working, just blowing off time at the office. So my mother has a point. But she has been known on rare occasions to join in the spirit of things related to Tull. There's a very funny 'installment' story about that which I started in the 'Manly Ian' thread awhile back that I've got to get around to finishing! Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on May 14, 2014 10:44:27 GMT -5
My mother has long been extremely critical of my great interest in Tull, and all my Tull-related activities, and has subjected me to a great deal of sarcasm about it. Despite having attended several shows, and grudgingly admitted that she liked some of the songs and Ian's flute playing, she simply does not understand why I would spend so much time and money on Jethro Tull, making myself poorer and Ian Anderson ever-richer, in the process, especially when she hears about some of the negative aspects of Ian's personality and treatment of his fans. She does not limit her disdain to me, or Ian Anderson. She doesn't particularly care for celebrities in general, or for people who idolize them. She cites as an example a deceased member of our family (by marriage, not by blood) who was known to be nuts -- mainly because of his total obsession with Danny Kaye - the actor/comedian from the 1950's and 60's. When she tells me about the lengths to which he took that obsession, it sounds very familiar...not unlike myself at times, or lots of other Tull fans, and I am a little embarrassed by it. She believes this all to be an enormous waste of time and detrimental to business, health and family. So is she right? Jeff As long as she's not accusing you of being sexually attracted to Ian like what happened to a friend of mine - so I heard. whistle LOL, yes good memory. My college friends teased me brutally all the time about my love of Tull, because my dorm room had these 70's-era massive Tull posters, with Ian wearing a codpiece and tights, and doing phallic things with his flute. So they had great fun saying that, if I had the opportunity to meet Ian, I would offer to give him a blow job. And they concocted complex stories, with scripts and scenarios in which I would meet Ian, all of which invariably ended with me blowing Ian. Jeff
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Post by TM on May 14, 2014 11:51:32 GMT -5
As long as she's not accusing you of being sexually attracted to Ian like what happened to a friend of mine - so I heard. whistle LOL, yes good memory. My college friends teased me brutally all the time about my love of Tull, because my dorm room had these 70's-era massive Tull posters, with Ian wearing a codpiece and tights, and doing phallic things with his flute. So they had great fun saying that, if I had the opportunity to meet Ian, I would offer to give him a blow job. And they concocted complex stories, with scripts and scenarios in which I would meet Ian, all of which invariably ended with me blowing Ian. Jeff LMAOROTF
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Post by Biggles on May 14, 2014 21:14:09 GMT -5
LOL, yes good memory. My college friends teased me brutally all the time about my love of Tull, because my dorm room had these 70's-era massive Tull posters, with Ian wearing a codpiece and tights, and doing phallic things with his flute. So they had great fun saying that, if I had the opportunity to meet Ian, I would offer to give him a blow job. And they concocted complex stories, with scripts and scenarios in which I would meet Ian, all of which invariably ended with me blowing Ian. Jeff LMAOROTF Hilarious!.. I can imagine the hazing, "with balls the size of kidney beans and a pecker like an pencil eraser, he.. uh! ..approached me"
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Post by Mothfairy on May 14, 2014 23:07:10 GMT -5
My mom hasn't said anything like that but she hasn't seen my tattoo yet. Here I am in my thirties and wondering, am I going to get in trouble for this? I'm going to be grounded.
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Post by Trainspotter on May 22, 2014 4:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by TM on May 22, 2014 10:35:21 GMT -5
My mom hasn't said anything like that but she hasn't seen my tattoo yet. Here I am in my thirties and wondering, am I going to get in trouble for this? I'm going to be grounded. Parents are interesting that way aren't they? Always telling their children what they should or should not to do - even when their children are adults.
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Post by TM on May 22, 2014 10:36:31 GMT -5
Hilarious!.. I can imagine the hazing, "with balls the size of kidney beans and a pecker like an pencil eraser, he.. uh! ..approached me" lol. This story is just too funny.
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Post by Biggles on May 22, 2014 19:49:53 GMT -5
Tell your Mother it could be worse. You could have gotten into ufology!
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Post by TM on May 23, 2014 8:38:12 GMT -5
lol. That's a great point though. We could have been Trekkies or into Star Wars or Batman or whatever. What about those trainspotters?
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Post by Biggles on May 23, 2014 20:54:29 GMT -5
lol. That's a great point though. We could have been Trekkies or into Star Wars or Batman or whatever. What about those trainspotters? Now just wait a minute! ..when I lay my left ear down on the track (because it's less sensitive than my right ear) and listen for the oncoming rumble of that locomotives breath, I know it's not personal if the engineer decides to ease off the brakes and smash my skull all over the tracks. Afterall, I haven't purchased enough TICKETS! I deserved it!
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Post by TM on May 23, 2014 20:59:25 GMT -5
lol. That's a great point though. We could have been Trekkies or into Star Wars or Batman or whatever. What about those trainspotters? Now just wait a minute! ..when I lay my left ear down on the track (because it's less sensitive than my right ear) and listen for the oncoming rumble of that locomotives breath, I know it's not personal if the engineer decides to ease off the brakes and smash my skull all over the tracks. Afterall, I haven't purchased enough TICKETS! I deserved it! On second thought, listen to your mother damn it!
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 16, 2014 9:34:58 GMT -5
Okay, so to pick up on this thread, recently I was visiting my parents house for a holiday, and I happened to sneak off to my sister's old room where they have their computer, to check and/or post something on the Board. Sure enough, even though I was only online for a few short minutes, my mother comes marching by the room, looks in, and contemptuously sneers "Oh, you're doing TULL BOARD again" as an opening jab, and before I can even respond in protest, she lands this knockout punch: "Jethro Tull.....the ruination of your life."
It's hard to answer that, because when I think about it rationally, there is some truth to the things she says. bash-head
Jeff
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Post by TM on Oct 16, 2014 11:57:42 GMT -5
I think you always have to look on the bright side. It's not like you were upstairs "reading" a Glamour Magazine and she caught you in the act.
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 16, 2014 13:46:59 GMT -5
I think you always have to look on the bright side. It's not like you were upstairs "reading" a Glamour Magazine and she caught you in the act. LOL, that's a funny analogy. When I visit my parents' house I have to conceal and hasten my Tull online activities out of fear of "being caught" by my mother, almost as if it were porn. Unbelievable. Jeff
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Post by TM on Oct 16, 2014 15:44:49 GMT -5
I think you always have to look on the bright side. It's not like you were upstairs "reading" a Glamour Magazine and she caught you in the act. LOL, that's a funny analogy. When I visit my parents' house I have to conceal and hasten my Tull online activities out of fear of "being caught" by my mother, almost as if it were porn. Unbelievable. Jeff lol There was something about Ian and Jethro Tull that drove us all to appreciate them to the extent we have. That's one thing we all have in common. But while I love talking Tull with people, it's the extreme element of Tull fans that have always made me a bit uncomfortable, and have had me looking to distance myself from it. The whole idolization of Ian Anderson by an adult creeps me out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 18:37:45 GMT -5
I wonder if she would feel the same way if you were a wine-snob and spent large amounts of money and time over the years enjoying/reading about/being obsessed with wine. It's a more dignified and culturally significant past time but really no different and in my opinion less healthy..... *glug glug glug* Anway,
She does have a point about celebrities, but Ian could hardly be compared to most 'celebrities' that people have obsessions with. Then again, I wasn't around in the 70s where apparently you couldn't get away from Tull even if you tried (the way my grandmother described it to me). But really, he doesn't promote unhealthy self images or beauty products, he promotes critical thinking and intrigue (and the occasional box set).
Personally I feel my relationship to Tull's music has benefited me very much, this may sound a bit romanticized but I think Tull's lyrics have contributed it's fair share to the way I viewed the world, especially when I was a teenager--I was lacking in any parental leadership or otherwise, living in the middle of nowhere in Appalachia and Tull was sort of a breath of fresh air which made me feel more empowered and have a clearer focus on life. It's a bit of a bummer when you think about it--I sort of made Tull's music my "big brother" figure when I needed it.
At least you're not a middle aged long haired rocker wearing Nirvana and AC/DC shirts spending your money on weed and guitars meanwhile being many months late on the rent for your basement apartment which is adorned with numerous 70s rock band posters--more willing to be evicted and sleep on your high school buddy's couch (who once shared your dream of rock n roll and has since become a paralegal with just enough nostalgic sympathy to help you out despite his annoyed wife who treats you very passive aggressively) than to sell your framed and autographed picture of Tony Iommi.
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