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Post by TM on Sept 14, 2014 10:09:21 GMT -5
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Pieter
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Post by Pieter on Sept 14, 2014 13:01:20 GMT -5
Wow, that takes you back doesn't it. I love it how thinking back on the times an album was released, takes you back right into that time. For me a confusing one, not the best to be honest, so a more "dark' Tull album fitted that atmosphere.
And there was John, his last recordings. I loved watching John Glasscock, loved his movements, energy. I'm so glad that the BBC recorded a documentary around that period of time.
Pieter
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Post by Morthoron on Sept 23, 2014 8:29:15 GMT -5
35 years old? God, that is sobering. I must be getting senile, because I still think of Storm Watch as their latest album.
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Post by Nonfatman on Sept 23, 2014 12:14:23 GMT -5
35 years old? God, that is sobering. I must be getting senile, because I still think of Storm Watch as their latest album. Stormwatch was not their best album, but it was in my opinion their most beautiful. I know how you feel about what followed, and I agree, except that I would extend the Big Tull era by one album, because I thought that A was a very effective and heavyweight Tull album. Ian succeeded in what he was trying to do on that record, which was to create a musical approximation of the tense, fearful atomsphere that existed between the U.S. and Soviet Union during the Cold War period. I am not aware of anyone doing that musically any better than Tull did with A, and Eddie Jobson was the perfect guy to help out with such a project. Also, Black Sunday was the last major Tull classic (with the possible exception of Farm on the Freeway). Jeff |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 14:54:15 GMT -5
35 years old? God, that is sobering. I must be getting senile, because I still think of Storm Watch as their latest album. ^ Made me lol. Stormwatch has a great sort of mystique to it (not sure if that's the right word) not only because of the lyrics' connecting of the modern industrial era and the "old ways" or because of John's death but also for the fact that it was the "original" Tull's swan song. A little burnt out when compared to the earlier efforts, sure, but it stands very strong to this day--and the message is more relevant than ever. I think the fact that it was those boys' last effort together makes it some of us particularly sentimental about it--especially because it was a formidable effort. Stormwatch will always be on my CD shelf. Or mp3 library... or whatever the heck we'll be using in the future. Thanks for the link Paul always good to see Tull get the recognition they deserve--sometimes that feels like a rare delicacy. |
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Sept 30, 2014 19:26:08 GMT -5
When's the remix coming out with 10 unreleased tracks? lol
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Post by Bwanabob on Oct 6, 2014 11:31:53 GMT -5
I remember being in school in Binghamton, NY, sick in bed with the flu; still I dragged my sorry ass out of bed, walked to the bus stop and rode to the Vestal Plaza (record store name long since forgotten) and picked up Stormwatch on its release day. Got back on the bus and went back to the dorms. Put the record on and laid there in sheer bliss. I felt like I was hallucinating during Dun Ringill (and I probably was from fever). My roommate chewed me out for getting out of bed (amazing that he didn't get sick too).
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Post by Gerald Bostock on Oct 12, 2014 6:17:50 GMT -5
I always really liked Stormwatch and still listen to it regularly. I think it's beautiful - one of the most dramatic and melodic albums.
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Post by eepie on Dec 25, 2014 20:48:59 GMT -5
i just bought Stormwatch (2004 remaster) and listened to it for the very first time on wednesday. i had never heard any of these songs before now!! most if not all of you guys have been listening to this for 35 years, but this is brand new to me. can you imagine?!
i already had SFTW and HH, and have heard SW referred to as the third of a trilogy, and i can definitely see that. it's different though, heavier and darker than the previous two, and i am really digging it so far. my favorites right off the bat (after two listens) are North Sea Oil, Orion, Something's on the Move, Dun Ringill, and Kelpie, and the rest are growing on me. Warm Sporran is an odd one, on the funky (disco???) side, which is weird to hear from tull! Dun Ringill is haunting, and i really like the looping, echo-y vocals. Kelpie is fun, and i have a real soft spot for mythological creatures, so i think i was going to like that one no matter what!
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Post by Biggles on Dec 25, 2014 22:41:03 GMT -5
i just bought Stormwatch (2004 remaster) and listened to it for the very first time on wednesday. i had never heard any of these songs before now!! most if not all of you guys have been listening to this for 35 years, but this is brand new to me. can you imagine?! i already had SFTW and HH, and have heard SW referred to as the third of a trilogy, and i can definitely see that. it's different though, heavier and darker than the previous two, and i am really digging it so far. my favorites right off the bat (after two listens) are North Sea Oil, Orion, Something's on the Move, Dun Ringill, and Kelpie, and the rest are growing on me. Warm Sporran is an odd one, on the funky (disco???) side, which is weird to hear from tull! Dun Ringill is haunting, and i really like the looping, echo-y vocals. Kelpie is fun, and i have a real soft spot for mythological creatures, so i think i was going to like that one no matter what! One of the last great tours followed the release of Stormwatch. |
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Post by Biggles on Dec 25, 2014 22:48:08 GMT -5
Damn, I'm old (don't agree with that!)
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Dec 26, 2014 1:32:15 GMT -5
My fave songs on the remaster are North Sea oil, Dun Ringill, Somethings on the move, A stitch in time and Crossword
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Post by Michael Crowe on Dec 26, 2014 1:36:57 GMT -5
Damn, I'm old (don't agree with that!) Okay ....... but you are looking your age. Actually everybody here is old except Moth and Sharky. I must be old because I can't handle my Christmas dinner the way I used to. Man, I'm glad that's over with. Hey, Santa, past me that plate of corn pudding over here will ya. And to consolidate post yet again, you are right about the Stormwatch tour. Easily the most energetic performance I ever saw from Tull. That was a prime year, even if was the last real Tull tour of sorts. |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Dec 26, 2014 1:58:56 GMT -5
i just bought Stormwatch (2004 remaster) and listened to it for the very first time on wednesday. i had never heard any of these songs before now!! most if not all of you guys have been listening to this for 35 years, but this is brand new to me. can you imagine?! i already had SFTW and HH, and have heard SW referred to as the third of a trilogy, and i can definitely see that. it's different though, heavier and darker than the previous two, and i am really digging it so far. my favorites right off the bat (after two listens) are North Sea Oil, Orion, Something's on the Move, Dun Ringill, and Kelpie, and the rest are growing on me. Warm Sporran is an odd one, on the funky (disco???) side, which is weird to hear from tull! Dun Ringill is haunting, and i really like the looping, echo-y vocals. Kelpie is fun, and i have a real soft spot for mythological creatures, so i think i was going to like that one no matter what! Hello Eepie. A few years ago a friend told me he had just discovered Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes series and had just gotten the Complete Sherlock Holmes volumes one and two for Christmas. All I could say was, "I envy you." I say the same here, if you are indeed just starting to crack open a fresh case of Tull music for the first time. You've already heard my favorites (SFTW, HH) but the well is very deep. I would put the 20 Years Box Set near the top as well. I have Stormwatch just in or near my top ten. The reason that album sounds a bit funky and disco-ish probably has to do with Ian taking over the bass for a sickly John Glasscock at the time on some of the tracks. You'll know which ones without looking at the liner notes. It's the tracks with the loud, edgy ( hello, I'm Ian Anderson and I can play bass too) bass sounds. Should be interesting to hear your comments as you go along. An honest fresh perspective here amongst this old lot who have hashed and rehashed the back catalog into submission is certainly welcomed by me. |
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Post by eepie on Dec 26, 2014 14:47:25 GMT -5
yay, discussions!!! yes, i am so excited to be listening to "new" stuff! weirdly enough, i was actually feeling a bit nervous going into it, because each album seems to be (in my limited experience, and to varying degrees) so different from whatever came before it. i didn't know what to expect. in this particular era, as part of the SFTW/HH/SW trilogy, SW is miles away from where SFTW began, even though they are separated by only a couple of years, in terms of tone, use of instruments, lyrically, production values (i'm sure this is at least in part due to the remastering) and even ian's vocalisations. i've been pleasantly surprised by this album and am enjoying the hell out of it! i'm struck by how... modern? contemporary? these are not exactly the right words i am reaching for, but i'm not sure how to express what i mean... i feel like tull's music can't be easily categorized and it almost doesn't belong to any particular point in time (maybe with the exception of the first two??).
by the way, i am kind of an oldster too! i was born the same year tull was! i guess i wasn't really old enough to see the tour though, i was only 10 when this album was released! i didn't start going to concerts until i was in high school in the mid-80s. i envy you guys for having been able to see this stuff!
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Dec 27, 2014 1:49:39 GMT -5
yay, discussions!!! yes, i am so excited to be listening to "new" stuff! weirdly enough, i was actually feeling a bit nervous going into it, because each album seems to be (in my limited experience, and to varying degrees) so different from whatever came before it. i didn't know what to expect. in this particular era, as part of the SFTW/HH/SW trilogy, SW is miles away from where SFTW began, even though they are separated by only a couple of years, in terms of tone, use of instruments, lyrically, production values (i'm sure this is at least in part due to the remastering) and even ian's vocalisations. i've been pleasantly surprised by this album and am enjoying the hell out of it! i'm struck by how... modern? contemporary? these are not exactly the right words i am reaching for, but i'm not sure how to express what i mean... i feel like tull's music can't be easily categorized and it almost doesn't belong to any particular point in time (maybe with the exception of the first two??). by the way, i am kind of an oldster too! i was born the same year tull was! i guess i wasn't really old enough to see the tour though, i was only 10 when this album was released! i didn't start going to concerts until i was in high school in the mid-80s. i envy you guys for having been able to see this stuff! You've started with some fine albums. I assume you have the remasters. Some nice bonus stuff on each. Lucky you have these extra tracks available now. You are even luckier now because you can get the remix versions of Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB, APP and Warchild. You also have the deluxe version of Stand up with bonus tracks and the great Carnegie hall live stuff. Today is a great time to be a tull fans with the release of every studio track available back in the 70s. You wouldn't have heard half of these back then  |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Dec 27, 2014 1:56:36 GMT -5
yay, discussions!!! yes, i am so excited to be listening to "new" stuff! weirdly enough, i was actually feeling a bit nervous going into it, because each album seems to be (in my limited experience, and to varying degrees) so different from whatever came before it. i didn't know what to expect. in this particular era, as part of the SFTW/HH/SW trilogy, SW is miles away from where SFTW began, even though they are separated by only a couple of years, in terms of tone, use of instruments, lyrically, production values (i'm sure this is at least in part due to the remastering) and even ian's vocalisations. i've been pleasantly surprised by this album and am enjoying the hell out of it! i'm struck by how... modern? contemporary? these are not exactly the right words i am reaching for, but i'm not sure how to express what i mean... i feel like tull's music can't be easily categorized and it almost doesn't belong to any particular point in time (maybe with the exception of the first two??). by the way, i am kind of an oldster too! i was born the same year tull was! i guess i wasn't really old enough to see the tour though, i was only 10 when this album was released! i didn't start going to concerts until i was in high school in the mid-80s. i envy you guys for having been able to see this stuff! As Tull fans go I would think you are quite the youngster, percentage wise. The thing about those folkie mid/late 70s albums for me are the strong melodies. That was probably Ian's strong suit, still is in fact. A lot of stuff from the early 80s are right up there with SFTW as far as melody, composition and folkie themes, but yeah, you never knew exactly what to expect. I remember Creast Of A Knave was for me the biggest surprise. I always anticipated the next release and was seldom disappointed. Have you checked out some of the old concert footage on youtube. There are a couple of good ones from the late 70s when Tull were in their prime. Ah, wait, here's one I think. So, you are a cook .... That's one of my weaknesses ..... and eating the results. And thinking about cooking when I'm not and planning a feast when I should be dieting .. oh dear. Things are slow here being the holidays but there are a few good culinarians here and things have gotten heated up in the virtual kitchen from time to time. Turkey stock sounds .... involved but good. My wife baked a ham this time. I intended to make ham stock but the way my Labradour was looking at me ...... well, she got the bone of course. Being in the south here ham usually wins out over turkey. Hmmm, I think there was a turkey thread somewhere if I recall ... which I seldom do - recall that is. Oh well, back to work for now. |
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Post by eepie on Dec 27, 2014 21:57:36 GMT -5
You've started with some fine albums. I assume you have the remasters. Some nice bonus stuff on each. Lucky you have these extra tracks available now. You are even luckier now because you can get the remix versions of Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB, APP and Warchild. You also have the deluxe version of Stand up with bonus tracks and the great Carnegie hall live stuff. Today is a great time to be a tull fans with the release of every studio track available back in the 70s. You wouldn't have heard half of these back then Hi Cecil, yes, i have This Was, Stand Up, Benefit, all with bonus tracks (the date on all three is 2001). Aqualung has extra tracks plus an interview with ian (i think that was from the 90s). once upon a time i did have TAAB and APP, but i can't find them now so will have to get them again. my copies of SFTW and HH do not have the extras. and now i have the remastered SW with the extras. i intend to go back and fill in the gaps with the rest of the 70s stuff i have missed before moving on to the 80s and newer stuff! i'm not familiar with the carnegie hall thing you mentioned, but i will look out for it! |
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Post by eepie on Dec 27, 2014 22:20:48 GMT -5
Have you checked out some of the old concert footage on youtube. There are a couple of good ones from the late 70s when Tull were in their prime. Ah, wait, here's one I think. So, you are a cook .... That's one of my weaknesses ..... and eating the results. And thinking about cooking when I'm not and planning a feast when I should be dieting .. oh dear. Things are slow here being the holidays but there are a few good culinarians here and things have gotten heated up in the virtual kitchen from time to time. Turkey stock sounds .... involved but good. My wife baked a ham this time. I intended to make ham stock but the way my Labradour was looking at me ...... well, she got the bone of course. Being in the south here ham usually wins out over turkey. Hmmm, I think there was a turkey thread somewhere if I recall ... which I seldom do - recall that is. Oh well, back to work for now. great, i will watch that video now! thanks! i do love food and cooking and eating!! i love cooking for friends especially. unlike me, most of my friends are vegetarian or vegan, but i just take that as a challenge - i like to experiment with different ways to "veganize" things for them, especially baking. turkey stock is really not involved, you don't even have to peel the veggies! you can use the same recipe/technique with chicken too. i have even used pre-cooked rotisserie chickens from the store. ham is good, but i don't really have it very often, maybe once every couple of years. my favorite thing to make with ham leftovers and the bone is split pea soup. i haven't made ham stock, but that would be great for other bean soups also! nice smoky, spicy black bean soup, mmmmm.... your doggie got lucky |
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Dec 27, 2014 22:45:49 GMT -5
You've started with some fine albums. I assume you have the remasters. Some nice bonus stuff on each. Lucky you have these extra tracks available now. You are even luckier now because you can get the remix versions of Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB, APP and Warchild. You also have the deluxe version of Stand up with bonus tracks and the great Carnegie hall live stuff. Today is a great time to be a tull fans with the release of every studio track available back in the 70s. You wouldn't have heard half of these back then Hi Cecil, yes, i have This Was, Stand Up, Benefit, all with bonus tracks (the date on all three is 2001). Aqualung has extra tracks plus an interview with ian (i think that was from the 90s). once upon a time i did have TAAB and APP, but i can't find them now so will have to get them again. my copies of SFTW and HH do not have the extras. and now i have the remastered SW with the extras. i intend to go back and fill in the gaps with the rest of the 70s stuff i have missed before moving on to the 80s and newer stuff! i'm not familiar with the carnegie hall thing you mentioned, but i will look out for it! There's half a dozen gems on the aqualung 2 cd remix you would love to hear. The Carnegie hall stuff is excellent too |
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Post by eepie on Jan 4, 2015 10:45:06 GMT -5
Cecil, i am listening to carnegie hall now -- HOLY SHIT the flute solos in my god !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to say that, i am going to continue listening now, gah!!!!!!!
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Post by LJG on Jan 4, 2015 22:05:49 GMT -5
Tull is one of those rare bands where they really do keep the best stuff "under wraps".
The second Aqualung disc is as good as it gets. And then you have "Living in the Past"... all the 'throwaways' that made it on are my favourites.
Ian makes some very strange decisions. LOL
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Post by eepie on Jan 6, 2015 22:18:14 GMT -5
Tull is one of those rare bands where they really do keep the best stuff "under wraps". The second Aqualung disc is as good as it gets. And then you have "Living in the Past"... all the 'throwaways' that made it on are my favourites. Ian makes some very strange decisions. LOL hi LJG! well, the good thing is that Ian has given us these "throwaways" -- it's fantastic! i wonder how much he still has left hidden away at this point? i picked up NIGHTCAP recently, but i have been holding myself back from listening to it for now... i am so anxious to hear the chateau d'isaster stuff. i haven't heard APP in like 20 years though, so i'm not sure if i should listen to that again before -or, technically, after- i delve into chateau? i am kinda-sorta trying to fill in my collection in the order things were released (or at least when they were recorded!). i skipped ahead with STORMWATCH (that was my very first new purchase after i "rediscovered" tull), but i think i am enjoying the self-discipline it takes to refrain from just jumping in and listening to EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE. it's a genuine struggle, but i know it will be worth it.  that said, i think i am ready to crack open something new... i have WARCHILD ready to go, but perhaps i'll give AQUALUNG a go first, since i now have the 2nd disc to round it out! |
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