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Post by TM on Nov 23, 2014 13:39:26 GMT -5
When I first saw Ryan on the TAAB/TAAB2 tour, I had a bit of trouble watching him sing Ian's lines. It was literally no different than watching Florian playing Martin's parts. It just didn't feel right. But now, after seeing a couple of shows on the latest tour, I think it's time to let Ryan do all the singing.
While Ian's vocals were very powerful this time around, his lack of range and vocal quality has diminished to a point where I enjoy the performance more when Ryan is singing.
Anyone else agree?
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Post by b2hammond on Nov 23, 2014 17:19:09 GMT -5
When I first saw Ryan on the TAAB/TAAB2 tour, I had a bit of trouble watching him sing Ian's lines. It was literally no different than watching Florian playing Martin's parts. It just didn't feel right. But now, after seeing a couple of shows on the latest tour, I think it's time to let Ryan do all the singing. While Ian's vocals were very powerful this time around, his lack of range and vocal quality has diminished to a point where I enjoy the performance more when Ryan is singing. Anyone else agree? I couldn't of said it better myself! 100% agree with you.  |
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Post by Biggles on Nov 23, 2014 21:25:18 GMT -5
When I first saw Ryan on the TAAB/TAAB2 tour, I had a bit of trouble watching him sing Ian's lines. It was literally no different than watching Florian playing Martin's parts. It just didn't feel right. But now, after seeing a couple of shows on the latest tour, I think it's time to let Ryan do all the singing. While Ian's vocals were very powerful this time around, his lack of range and vocal quality has diminished to a point where I enjoy the performance more when Ryan is singing. Anyone else agree? Maybe not a 100% take over but, I think Ian should let him do much more singing. There were a lot of points in this years show when I thought -Ian, you should've let Ryan get that one. |
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Post by Nonfatman on Nov 23, 2014 23:38:51 GMT -5
When I first saw Ryan on the TAAB/TAAB2 tour, I had a bit of trouble watching him sing Ian's lines. It was literally no different than watching Florian playing Martin's parts. It just didn't feel right. But now, after seeing a couple of shows on the latest tour, I think it's time to let Ryan do all the singing. While Ian's vocals were very powerful this time around, his lack of range and vocal quality has diminished to a point where I enjoy the performance more when Ryan is singing. Anyone else agree? I would have agreed until I saw this last tour. I thought Ian sang extremely well -- best I have heard his voice in 15-20 years -- for both of the two shows I saw this time around. I was shocked, and very pleasantly surprised, by how strong his voice sounded. It was not something that I expected at all. Jeff |
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Post by geostrehl on Nov 24, 2014 13:45:57 GMT -5
I've been torn over this for awhile now. I saw the TaaB 1 & 2 tour in Asheville, Akron, Philly, Cleveland Heights, Cincinnati, and I saw the HE tour when they stopped by in Greensburg, Pa (and got pictures with David and Florian! And Flo gave me one of his picks!!). I gotta be honest... I'm not a big fan of Ryan. It's nice that Ian brought him aboard and everything, but I'd rather hear Ian croak out 100% of the lyrics than hear someone else sing them. I know, I know, shame on me. Haha. But I love Ian's voice. Sure, it's shot... but it's him. Singing behind the beat and out of key doesn't bother me. But then again, I'd pay an insane amount of money to listen to Ian sing the alphabet.  On a different note: Glad to be on the board. I've been watching this since it started out, but never registered. I live and breath all things Ian Anderson. I used to be somewhat active on the old board (I miss lady Blue), and in the yahoo group. Darn trolls  |
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Post by TM on Nov 24, 2014 17:40:41 GMT -5
I've been torn over this for awhile now. I saw the TaaB 1 & 2 tour in Asheville, Akron, Philly, Cleveland Heights, Cincinnati, and I saw the HE tour when they stopped by in Greensburg, Pa (and got pictures with David and Florian! And Flo gave me one of his picks!!). I gotta be honest... I'm not a big fan of Ryan. It's nice that Ian brought him aboard and everything, but I'd rather hear Ian croak out 100% of the lyrics than hear someone else sing them. I know, I know, shame on me. Haha. But I love Ian's voice. Sure, it's shot... but it's him. Singing behind the beat and out of key doesn't bother me. But then again, I'd pay an insane amount of money to listen to Ian sing the alphabet. On a different note: Glad to be on the board. I've been watching this since it started out, but never registered. I live and breath all things Ian Anderson. I used to be somewhat active on the old board (I miss lady Blue), and in the yahoo group. Darn trolls Hey Geoff, welcome to the board and glad to know another of the "old guys" made it over! I fully understand the "but it's him" thought process as I felt the same exact way heading into this tour. But now that the band is basically a cover band (albeit, a very good one) I think I would just prefer to hear the vocals sounding as best they can be - even if they are different. The other benefit to giving Ryan the vocal mic is that it would allow Ian to pull out so many additional songs from the past that he was no longer capable of singing. |
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Post by TM on Nov 24, 2014 17:43:25 GMT -5
When I first saw Ryan on the TAAB/TAAB2 tour, I had a bit of trouble watching him sing Ian's lines. It was literally no different than watching Florian playing Martin's parts. It just didn't feel right. But now, after seeing a couple of shows on the latest tour, I think it's time to let Ryan do all the singing. While Ian's vocals were very powerful this time around, his lack of range and vocal quality has diminished to a point where I enjoy the performance more when Ryan is singing. Anyone else agree? I would have agreed until I saw this last tour. I thought Ian sang extremely well -- best I have heard his voice in 15-20 years -- for both of the two shows I saw this time around. I was shocked, and very pleasantly surprised, by how strong his voice sounded. It was not something that I expected at all. Jeff I know we discussed this but my feeling is even at his current best, it's not very good. As an example, Songs From The Wood. SFTW is a great song that he just cannot sing any longer. Why not give Ryan the full reigns on that song? |
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Post by Mix on Nov 26, 2014 6:05:43 GMT -5
When I saw them back in May, it was clear that Ryan has the definition and dynamics of a normal singer, something Ian has lost 90% of the time. However, while Ryan's voice is ok, it could be any singer. I don't mind his voice, it certainly doesn't have the charm of Ian's but then nobody will.
What worked for me is where Ian and Ryan sang at the same time. You had Ryan's polished vocal mixed with the character of Ian's. It worked very well I thought and I was disappointed that they didn't do more of that.
I really feel Ryan could handle 70% of the vocal duty with Ian doubling up on the choruses and taking the occasional verse. Fuck me, the result will be musically and sonically a 100% improvement. The old fart fans who constantly moan about Ryan should just fuck off and not come to the show. NEWSFLASH......Ian's voice isn't what it was, it's no longer the 1970's. Enjoy Ian on a good night, enjoy Ian on the album, but don't expect the great singer he once was to show up in 2015.
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Post by TM on Nov 26, 2014 18:12:51 GMT -5
I think what you're suggesting could work pretty well. And I agree that I did enjoy when the two sung together. With You There To Help was very good.
For me anyway, I want to hear something new with Ian, and Ryan makes that possible.
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Post by Tullabye on Nov 27, 2014 21:11:03 GMT -5
I only want Ryan on Ryan's parts on the LP and as a compliment when singing together. He should never sing any part of a song like Aqualung. Ian's voice is still pretty good on the lower register and in the shows I saw when needing help in the higher register the two of them worked well. Teacher was great and SFTW, WYTTHM and Too Old to Rock and Roll were very good with both singing in harmony. Still giving Ryan full controls of the vocals would be a joke and turn most everyone off. It would have been like putting a mediocre singer to sub for Garcia lines when the Dead were still around he was having vocal issues. Everyone still wanted Jerry and Ian is the same. I really cant even fathom a show of Ryan singing all the vocals. Ryan doesn't have what it takes to fill in for Ian...sorry guys.
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Post by Morthoron on Nov 30, 2014 8:46:06 GMT -5
Really don't mind if I sit this one out
Ian's voice is so raspy
He barely can shout
And Ian's new boy-toy is the oddest of things
Ryan sounds like a choir boy
Whenever he sings
And you wince every time Ian squeals
As he makes all his remastering deals
But you no longer get how it feels
To hear Jethro Tull
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Post by TM on Nov 30, 2014 21:52:51 GMT -5
Really don't mind if I sit this one out Ian's voice is so raspy He barely can shout And Ian's new boy-toy is the oddest of things Ryan sounds like a choir boy Whenever he sings And you wince every time Ian squeals As he makes all his remastering deals But you no longer get how it feels To hear Jethro Tull And your Tull-vocal virtues are all swept away in the tidal destruction, the master's melee. The elastic retreat - the band's all sent away got Ryan and Florian - the newfangled way. But your new shoes are worn at the heels as the master does struggles to squeal, and these Tull fans don't know how it feels to hear Jethro Tull. |
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Post by Morthoron on Dec 1, 2014 20:46:16 GMT -5
Really don't mind if I sit this one out Ian's voice is so raspy He barely can shout And Ian's new boy-toy is the oddest of things Ryan sounds like a choir boy Whenever he sings And you wince every time Ian squeals As he makes all his remastering deals But you no longer get how it feels To hear Jethro Tull And your Tull-vocal virtues are all swept away in the tidal destruction, the master's melee. The elastic retreat - the band's all sent away got Ryan and Florian - the newfangled way. But your new shoes are worn at the heels as the master does struggles to squeal, and these Tull fans don't know how it feels to hear Jethro Tull. Excellent job, Paul! Amusingly -- or sadly, depending -- we are parodying a parody of Tull: i.e., the Ian Anderson Karaoke Band. |
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Post by TM on Dec 2, 2014 10:26:55 GMT -5
Hey Greg, I think we need to keep it going!
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Post by Tullabye on Dec 2, 2014 16:55:47 GMT -5
But your lyrics are petty as can be-ee-eeee and as far as I can se-ee-eeee can be penned by only he-ee-eeee-ee a morothon less the o, the h and the t Sorry but couldn't resist |
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