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Post by onethickbrick on Oct 5, 2015 17:20:29 GMT -5
Hi all, I wrote this post about Jethro Tull and why they persist in being my favorite band. I shared it with an Ian Anderson group on Facebook and it got a pretty good response. Let me know if you like it by leaving a comment on the site! www.bustingthebox.net/2015/08/why-jethro-tull.htmlCheers! |
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Post by TM on Oct 5, 2015 21:13:46 GMT -5
Hello, and welcome to the board.
Did anyone challenge your 'Ian is Tull' comment? Does anyone even care anymore at this stage?
No doubt without Ian there would never be a Jethro Tull, but as a "seasoned" Tull fan, I tend to appreciate the different bands of Jethro Tull.
One of the great joys of Tull was isolating on the individual performances of each member and how these unique styles blended so well and together, made some fantastic music.
I like Ian's solo work too, but IA solo, is much more simplistic on so many levels.
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Post by onethickbrick on Oct 6, 2015 11:52:59 GMT -5
That's great feedback! I think it depends on what era of Tull you're talking about. Some musicians have contributed a great deal to the sound and complexity of the music... others have not. It is an important distinction, but for the sake of the article, I was discussing the music overall that is basically the biproduct of Ian Anderson.
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Post by onethickbrick on Oct 6, 2015 11:53:40 GMT -5
Also, thanks for the welcome but I've actually been reading on here for four years  |
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Post by TM on Oct 6, 2015 13:31:32 GMT -5
That's great feedback! I think it depends on what era of Tull you're talking about. Some musicians have contributed a great deal to the sound and complexity of the music... others have not. It is an important distinction, but for the sake of the article, I was discussing the music overall that is basically the biproduct of Ian Anderson. Glad you decided to sign in and yes, I see your point. I tend to see the end of "Tull" when Giddings and Noyce were let go. |
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Post by StanDup on Oct 7, 2015 0:09:06 GMT -5
It is difficult to categorize Tull in a specific way that would set them apart from other progressive rock groups. Having said that, I would place them in the progressive rock category. I suspect that the good fellows at ProgArchives.com were attempting to define Tull in a way that would include those lighter acoustic leanings. I was well aware of all of their albums before I finally saw them live at their peak in 72 and 73, so I knew by then that Tull had lots of different styles to play. But where else were you going to go and find virtuosic flute playing with loud guitar backed by an equally talented and flamboyant drummer, keyboardist and bass player. Then, if you went for a piss you may come back to find the entire band had switched instruments and playing Fat Man. Again, difficult to categorize. I too considered myself a "music before lyrics" listener at the time and it was primarily Ian's lyrics that inspired me to listen more intently to the lyrics. Anyway, you really nailed it on many points. Since you mentioned Metallica, I just have to ask, does anybody else hear a little bit of Ian (circa Aqualung) in some of James Hetfield's singing?
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Post by Biggles on Nov 6, 2015 21:06:32 GMT -5
It is difficult to categorize Tull in a specific way that would set them apart from other progressive rock groups. Having said that, I would place them in the progressive rock category. I suspect that the good fellows at ProgArchives.com were attempting to define Tull in a way that would include those lighter acoustic leanings. I was well aware of all of their albums before I finally saw them live at their peak in 72 and 73, so I knew by then that Tull had lots of different styles to play. But where else were you going to go and find virtuosic flute playing with loud guitar backed by an equally talented and flamboyant drummer, keyboardist and bass player. Then, if you went for a piss you may come back to find the entire band had switched instruments and playing Fat Man. Again, difficult to categorize. I too considered myself a "music before lyrics" listener at the time and it was primarily Ian's lyrics that inspired me to listen more intently to the lyrics. Anyway, you really nailed it on many points. Since you mentioned Metallica, I just have to ask, does anybody else hear a little bit of Ian (circa Aqualung) in some of James Hetfield's singing? Regarding your "does anybody else hear a little bit of Ian (circa Aqualung) in some of James Hetfield's singing?" I heard Metal-licas song 'Nothing Else Matters' yesterday and thought to myself, there it is! you're right! but I can't put my finger on the song James Hackfields is (sub-consciously) borrowing from. Any idea? B... out! |
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Post by StanDup on Nov 7, 2015 1:38:58 GMT -5
It is difficult to categorize Tull in a specific way that would set them apart from other progressive rock groups. Having said that, I would place them in the progressive rock category. I suspect that the good fellows at ProgArchives.com were attempting to define Tull in a way that would include those lighter acoustic leanings. I was well aware of all of their albums before I finally saw them live at their peak in 72 and 73, so I knew by then that Tull had lots of different styles to play. But where else were you going to go and find virtuosic flute playing with loud guitar backed by an equally talented and flamboyant drummer, keyboardist and bass player. Then, if you went for a piss you may come back to find the entire band had switched instruments and playing Fat Man. Again, difficult to categorize. I too considered myself a "music before lyrics" listener at the time and it was primarily Ian's lyrics that inspired me to listen more intently to the lyrics. Anyway, you really nailed it on many points. Since you mentioned Metallica, I just have to ask, does anybody else hear a little bit of Ian (circa Aqualung) in some of James Hetfield's singing? Regarding your "does anybody else hear a little bit of Ian (circa Aqualung) in some of James Hetfield's singing?" I heard Metal-licas song 'Nothing Else Matters' yesterday and thought to myself, there it is! you're right! but I can't put my finger on the song James Hackfields is (sub-consciously) borrowing from. Any idea? B... out! It's got to be Wind Up, Hymn 43, Locomotive Breath and even Up To Me. It's that growl. I think he's singing with his most "hard rock" voice on the album Aqualung. Just bought a new copy of HH today and I hear a little bit of it on And the Mouse Police never Sleeps as well. |
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Post by Biggles on Nov 7, 2015 6:48:59 GMT -5
Regarding your "does anybody else hear a little bit of Ian (circa Aqualung) in some of James Hetfield's singing?" I heard Metal-licas song 'Nothing Else Matters' yesterday and thought to myself, there it is! you're right! but I can't put my finger on the song James Hackfields is (sub-consciously) borrowing from. Any idea? B... out! It's got to be Wind Up, Hymn 43, Locomotive Breath and even Up To Me. It's that growl. I think he's singing with his most "hard rock" voice on the album Aqualung. Just bought a new copy of HH today and I hear a little bit of it on And the Mouse Police never Sleeps as well. Yeah, okay. I was thinking something from Benefit but you're right. It's the whole arrangement. The vocals and the dynamics are so similar. |
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Post by StanDup on Nov 8, 2015 17:45:05 GMT -5
It's got to be Wind Up, Hymn 43, Locomotive Breath and even Up To Me. It's that growl. I think he's singing with his most "hard rock" voice on the album Aqualung. Just bought a new copy of HH today and I hear a little bit of it on And the Mouse Police never Sleeps as well. Yeah, okay. I was thinking something from Benefit but you're right. It's the whole arrangement. The vocals and the dynamics are so similar. and no disrespect to James Hogfield , I don't think he's copying IA. As you said, if there is any similarity it was probably sub-consciously achieved.
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Post by StanDup on Nov 28, 2015 16:34:52 GMT -5
Whilst doing a thumb through in the latest Guitar World mag I ran across a feature called PLAYLIST where a selected artist list 5 songs by artists that they admire. They artists name is Joakim Nilsson from a band called GRAVEYARD. To be quite honest I had never heard of them and was almost going to turn the page when I noticed that the 5th song on the list was With You There To Help Me and kind words to say about Ian. Well that changed everything didn't it. So I checked em out and found out that they are a Swedish hard rock band with 4 albums a bunch of vids on YouTube.
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Post by LJG on Nov 28, 2015 18:49:23 GMT -5
Graveyard are actually pretty damn good. I first heard them back in 2011... heavy blues-oriented/psych rock...
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Post by Stjerky on Dec 21, 2015 16:35:41 GMT -5
Yes. Graveyard is great. Saw them 2013 in Qstock festival. A bit like another swedish band Hellacopters (which has already broken up).
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