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Post by Chea on Jan 12, 2010 3:34:34 GMT -5
Hallo to all. It would be extremely difficult for me to decide and say which one can be my favourite J.T Album.The same i believe for all the Fans.I am sure that ONE of the Album i like best is Catfish Rising. It is for me a sort of connection between the "traditional" and "modern" Jethro Tull. I don't know if you have already talked about C.R in this Forum. I 'd like to get some opinions from you about.Thanks.
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Post by tootull on Jan 12, 2010 9:37:35 GMT -5
www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=84119&page=5 Catfish Rising Sept. 1991 The 90's Rolling Stone called "Catfish Rising" a return to blues form. Fav. tracks 'Rocks On The Road' 'Thinking Round Corners' 'Doctor My Disease' & 'When Jesus Came To Play'Beware: I'm not a big fan of White Innocence, I would rather listen to the bonus track Night In The Wilderness. "So it was an album born out of having fun making a kind of rock music using more traditional, woody sort of instruments with an emphasis on blues being the musical feeling behind most of it, rather than having classical or any folk references." -Ian Anderson www.cupofwonder.com/catfish.html#nightinthewildernessI could he sitting on the left of you. You'd be looking straight ahead. If I was adrift right across from you, you still would cut me dead. I've had better deep discussions with this plate of soft-shelled crab. Tea cheers! -tootull
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Post by Chea on Jan 12, 2010 10:51:50 GMT -5
Hi Tootull. I bought the Cd at the time it came out.There is'nt any bonus track in my copy.Interesting Ian comment.i'm not a very refined listener,but i believe it has been an album easy to realise because they are some songs similar enough between them and an high musicians quality. :PI really like this Album.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2010 10:54:41 GMT -5
You almost forget all the Tull catalog until some brings it up and then you think about it for a second.... Rocks on The Road, When Jesus Came To Play, Whit Innocence, Roll Your Own, This Is Not Love, great stuff and I think I will have to listen to right now , so thanks for reminding me of it. Chea two thumbs up for making my brain cells work
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Post by tootull on Jan 12, 2010 12:23:54 GMT -5
Hi Tootull. I bought the Cd at the time it came out.There is'nt any bonus track in my copy.Interesting Ian comment.i'm not a very refined listener,but i believe it has been an album easy to realise because they are some songs similar enough between them and an high musicians quality. :PI really like this Album. Catfish is my favourite album from the 90's. Believe it or not: Thinking Round Corners reminds me of a time many years ago (1970's) when I was in hospital drawing strength from machinery, the heavy medication caused me to dive down drains, (corridors) in my dreams. All of you sit up in bed. Don't think in straight lines ahead. Can't sleep? Head spin? Don't think in circles, it'll do you in. Think back to the dream you had; no sense of being good or bad. Jump to the left, jump to the right. Think round corners into night. Let's go in wet corridors: dive down drains. Draw strength from machinery, it's all the same. Thinking round corners. Think round corners, I say. Night In the Wilderness: I believe it is found on the first Japanese Catfish CD release & the Rocks On the Road CD single and of course, the current remaster.
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Post by Nonfatman on Jan 12, 2010 12:50:34 GMT -5
Night in the Wilderness, Thinking Round Corners, Rocks on the Road and Gold Tipped Boots, Black Jacket & Tie are my favorites from this album. Occasional Demons is a good one too.
Jeff
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Post by TM on Jan 12, 2010 13:51:25 GMT -5
Agree - the best Tull album of the 90's. And the last album that Ian used his "studio vocals."
My favs are:
Occasional Demons Still Loving You Tonight Doctor To My Disease Sleeping With The Dog When Jesus Came To Play
And then of course we have the "out-takes" from these sessions that I like as well:
Night in the Wilderness Silver River Turning Truck Stop Runner
Truck Stop is one I know wont make too many people's best of's but it is one that I like. I like the light country feel of this track.
Ian mentioned that there was some guitar player that sent him some of his songs which influenced Ian's playing on this record. Anybody remember that?
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Post by Chea on Jan 13, 2010 2:45:33 GMT -5
You almost forget all the Tull catalog until some brings it up and then you think about it for a second.... Rocks on The Road, When Jesus Came To Play, Whit Innocence, Roll Your Own, This Is Not Love, great stuff and I think I will have to listen to right now , so thanks for reminding me of it. Chea two thumbs up for making my brain cells work Hi Derek. I am the one that forgets sometime an Album for a couple of months and suddenly it takes to listen to it regularly (a lot )i think it's normal.To Catfish Rising the story is different.Always in a beautyful sight,and even during last Christmas holidays,sking on the mountainside i could be listened to this Album!!I'm always attracted to it. Here in Italy there is a weekly TV F1 program which starts with This Is Not Love,as well...
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Post by Chea on Jan 13, 2010 3:23:05 GMT -5
I like very much Thinkin Round Corners ans Sleeping with the Dog,because may be facts really happened,real life,as in nearly every Ian's lirycs.....When Jesus Came To Play makes remember something :)and it ends very well the Album,in my humble opinion. At this point,after reading TooTull and TM comments to my post,i MUST look for a new copy with the bonus tracks mentioned. It is UNFORGIVEABLE for me this lack
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Post by Nonfatman on Jan 13, 2010 10:02:26 GMT -5
Hi, Michele.
I don't believe that Silver River Turning or Truck Stop Runner were included on the remastered edition of Catfish, although Night in the Wilderness was, and so was a live version of Jump Start. I could be wrong about that, but I don't think I am.
I think Nightcap is the only CD that ever included Silver River Turning and Truck Stop Runner, although one or both of those, as well as Night in the Wilderness, may also have been included on one of the several Rocks on the Road EPs that were released. I'll have to check that when I get home tonight.
Jeff
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Post by Lordiffyboatrace on Jan 13, 2010 12:03:02 GMT -5
i am not familiar with any tull albums after stormwatch im afraid, i have them all on my pc but for me its just not the same.like a totally different band imo
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Post by tootull on Jan 13, 2010 12:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by TM on Jan 13, 2010 20:02:50 GMT -5
i am not familiar with any tull albums after stormwatch im afraid, i have them all on my pc but for me its just not the same.like a totally different band imo ??
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Post by Chea on Jan 14, 2010 3:47:05 GMT -5
Hi, Michele. I think Nightcap is the only CD that ever included Silver River Turning and Truck Stop Runner, although one or both of those, as well as Night in the Wilderness, may also have been included on one of the several Rocks on the Road EPs that were released. I'll have to check that when I get home tonight. Jeff Hallo Jeff.I'll check my NIGHTCAP copy and i'll ask my music shop,too. .M.
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Post by Chea on Jan 14, 2010 4:01:02 GMT -5
i am not familiar with any tull albums after stormwatch im afraid, i have them all on my pc but for me its just not the same.like a totally different band imo Hi Lord. :)I understand.That's why i say "traditional"and "modern" J.T... :-/M.
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Post by Chea on Jan 14, 2010 4:11:38 GMT -5
Hi Tootull.Thanks for the info and the search. I'm sorry,but i know only one Cat Stevens....
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Post by Nonfatman on Jan 14, 2010 12:04:26 GMT -5
i am not familiar with any tull albums after stormwatch im afraid, i have them all on my pc but for me its just not the same.like a totally different band imo Dave, you are certainly not alone among avid Tull fans who cannot really get into the later stuff in the same way. For instance, many Tull tribute bands will not perform anything after Stormwatch. Even so, you are going to have to quickly re-acquaint yourself with the later material because we will soon reach that stuff in Album Wars! Personally, I love all of Tull's albums, because even their "lesser" stuff is so much better than most everything else, and the lyrics are almost always great. But you are certainly correct in that there is a marked difference between Tull's 70's albums, and their 80's and 90's albums. With the exception of some of the Crest and RTB material, a lot of people would agree with you that Tull never reached the same heights again in terms of their studio material, but they did continue with some truly superb tours throughout the eighties, and even into the nineties. However, I think the most distinct break from their recording heydey comes after A, not Stormwatch. Despite the personnel changes and the keyboard-based sound, A still retained the heavy bombast, beefy drums and, with EJ's electric violin, the prominent string aspect of the '70s era, and it still "feels" like a progressive rock album from that period. Everything that followed (except for the Ric Sanders violin solo on Budapest) lacked the strings and orchestration that I liked so much throughout the David Palmer period, and I think the departure of DP made a huge difference. The reintroduction of strings in recent years is welcome, but would be much more so within the context of a new album. Jeff
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Post by egrorian on Jan 23, 2012 14:36:55 GMT -5
I tend to think of Tull's catalogue as being "split" too, although I tend to think of the "golden age" as starting with Aqualung (a controversial opinion I'm sure!) and ending after Broadsword, although I certainly really like a lot of the music that comes after. Rock Island had some great songs and some average ones IMHO and it seemed then the magic was fading - I mean Rock Island might still be a "good" album but it wasn't a patch of the Tull of their 70s glory days. Catfish is one that never grabbed me much, yet i enjoy most of it whenever I do play it (although listeneing today I was struck by how unfamiliar many of the songs seemed to me in constrast to almost all of Tull's work released previously (and, for me, the same applies to Roots to Branches and Dot.com - several good, though not great - tracks and some stuff I'm not too fussed about)
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Post by flutestobranches on Jan 24, 2012 14:54:01 GMT -5
I love "Catfish." It contains two of my top ten favorite Tull tracks of all-time. But then, I think my tastes might be weird, even among Tull fans.
Having said that, Tull fans seem to be extremely varied in their tastes, so maybe there's no such thing as a "typical" Tull fan?
There do seem to be a lot of purists (for lack of a better term) that prefer pre-1980 Tull, though!
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Post by blockdog on Jan 25, 2012 10:17:47 GMT -5
Anyone else have Catfish on vinyl ?
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Post by TM on Jan 25, 2012 11:07:35 GMT -5
Anyone else have Catfish on vinyl ? Hi Blockdog. I'm sure our very own Charlie (Derek Pith) has it. He has EVERYTHING! ;D
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Post by Geoff CB on Jan 27, 2012 20:19:17 GMT -5
Anyone else have Catfish on vinyl ? Yes, I picked it up about a year and a half ago. It includes a 3 track 12"; "Jesus", "Sleeping" and "White Innocence" as well as a "This is not love" single. This was the last vinyl album released, I'd say (except for some later live albums). Wish "Roots" and "Dot Com" were on vinyl!
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Post by Corner of the Sphere on Jan 28, 2012 1:01:51 GMT -5
Your wish is partially granted geoffcb. "Roots to Branches" was released as a double LP. The track order is exactly the same as the CD. It comes up on the auction sites fairly regularly. Two available to Australia on ebay at the moment.
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Post by Geoff CB on Jan 28, 2012 19:06:11 GMT -5
Gasp! Not at that price even for Tull! ($110 and $234 $A)
Thanks - at least I know it was released on vinyl!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2012 23:15:52 GMT -5
I agree on the price, but Roots to Branches would be killer to have on vinyl.
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