StanDup
One of the Youngest of the Family
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Post by StanDup on Apr 15, 2015 22:13:48 GMT -5
Thanks, and I appreciate your point about his honesty. It led me to further think about his personality. which led to a few more thoughts i should have noted in the first place. First, I think I understand what you mean about his revisionist history, which not exclusive to him, and I think it is fairly common for some of us to perceive, interpret or remember events thought the lens of our emotions or desires. I believe IA has that trait in spades and it extends to his memories of band members, band history and even his current point of view on any things that may pique his interest. His thoughts are strongly biased by his feelings. Two other traits I wanted to add are that he is a classic Lone Wolf. By nature he is inclined to want to be alone, whether eating lunch with the band or on a greater scale of seeking privacy or solitude. Those people often end up lonely but he has Shona. It makes sense he apparently sees her less than half the year. Ultmately his whole trip is Only Solitaire. Lastly, he is an exhibitionist, which is different than being narcissistic though they can compliment each other well. I think it's normal to look back on things with a different perspective, but it's something quite different to deliberately try and change the history of the band. Especially since his words have been recorded. Here's an example of such a case. Someone sent me the spoken word audio right after the release of TAAB2 and I set it into a Youtube clip. So he did play all the instruments on TAAB. I knew it. Even that stellar drum solo. Way to go Ian.
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Post by TM on Apr 16, 2015 9:23:41 GMT -5
Thanks Bigs but like I said, I had help with that. Ian's a smart man. He knew exactly what he was doing with those comments.
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Post by piscesguy on Apr 19, 2015 9:59:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the IA quotes to support your point about his honesty. I was hoping you would offer some. it does appear that as he grows older his memory of events is shaped by the notion that he was virtually all of Tull. Everyone is tempted by ego, and I think when your identity assumes mythic proportions, that is, you become world famous, and especially if it continues to endure and even expand in your lifetime, as Ian's has, the temptation to become a legend in your own mind is so strong that the contributions of others are easily eclipsed by the shadow of your ever growing stature. Even a genius can have trouble seeing through his own ego, and maybe you'd like to have that house in the country after all. As someone else noted, best to forgive all that, so to speak, and just enjoy the music. But thanks, all the same.
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Post by TM on Apr 19, 2015 19:26:44 GMT -5
It is what it is. For us fans it's easy to just consider the music. But for former band members and their families I guess not as much.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to blame Ian for his choice in musicians throughout his career. My only interest is which members made up Jethro Tull at it's best.
If Ian's solo career has done anything for me as of late, it's made me appreciate just how truly great Jethro Tull once was.
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Post by LJG on Apr 20, 2015 18:11:10 GMT -5
It is what it is. For us fans it's easy to just consider the music. But for former band members and their families I guess not as much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to blame Ian for his choice in musicians throughout his career. My only interest is which members made up Jethro Tull at it's best. If Ian's solo career has done anything for me as of late, it's made me appreciate just how truly great Jethro Tull once was. It's like a marriage coming apart where I'm friends with both parties. I just do my best to sustain the friendships... and try to look past the 'root causes'. Because whatever they did to each other, they were both good to me, brought joy to my life, and hopefully will continue to do so. Picking sides as fans on the outside looking in is a major mistake, IMHO. None of us walk in another person's shoes. And whether you like Ian's solo music or not, he's certainly making more of an effort to do 'interesting' albums than 99% of his peers from the same time period. At the moment... that also includes Mr. Barre. Two albums largely composed of covers of Tull music cannot be compared to two albums of original music (for better and/or worse). And I love those albums... especially the acoustic one... but it still has to be seen for what it is...
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