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Post by Mothfairy on Jun 10, 2010 19:25:56 GMT -5
tootull, thank you, I was going to post that, as that is my local paper and that was in there today. That among other things made me a little sad that I am not at Foxwoods Tull show tonight. I am truly sad that I am not there. I could use me a little Tull. I had wanted to go. And when I see Tull at Foxwoods, I usually get tix day-of and I get front row or second or third. But unfortunately there were other things and Tull was taking the backseat...One of these things is that my computer was killed by a virus and we either need to buy a new one or get ours fixed. Which stands as the reason I have not been present here on the board! I have missed chatting with you guys. Hope everyone who goes to a show has fun! Think of me! LOL.
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 10, 2010 21:43:56 GMT -5
Hi, Joerg,
Welcome again to The Jethro Tull Board! [For those members that do not know him, Joerg is the organizer of the German Jethro Tull Fan Club, called Beggar's Farm, and he is the co-publisher of a German fanzine entitled Beggar Farm News. We are sure that Ulla knows him well!]
By the way, how was the Martin gig in Allesandra, with Doane, Jonathan Noyce, John O'Hara, Clive Bunker, Dan Crisp and the guy from Van De Graff Generator? Curious as to what was played, and how the show went.
As for the question of the cover art, you may well be right that Ian was referring to the album cover concepts rather than the art, but he certainly wasn't clear about it. I read what he said again, and he definitely seems to be talking about the artwork itself, not merely the concept.
Doesn't really matter though, because we know it's not true and we are going to be learning more about all the various Tull album cover artists shortly, right here on The Jethro Tull Board!
Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 10, 2010 21:50:48 GMT -5
Cheer up, Holly, because we have just learned that Ian is touring the Northeast again in October with his solo band, so hopefully you will get to see that one. This is just a garden variety 'greatest hits' tour, which you've seen before anyway.
We hope you get your computer up and running again soon, so you can rejoin us full-time. The last time that happened to my computer we were going to call this computer tech guy that we use, who we really don't like because he is a creepy guy, so instead I said, WTF, let me try using the system recovery discs myself. I thought it was just going to fuck things up even more, but it didn't, it actually worked! Luckily, we had everything backed up on an external hard drive, so we restored all our files and photos after we used the recovery discs. Maybe that can work for you too?
Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 10, 2010 23:37:02 GMT -5
"I have to admit that they are not the top seller, currently that place is taken by the Tony Haywood toilet paper. " I'll take a case, please. LOL, and I've got the name for that product: BPTP Jeff
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Post by tootull on Jun 11, 2010 9:24:15 GMT -5
tootull, thank you, I was going to post that, as that is my local paper and that was in there today. You're welcome. All is good! Ian Anderson brings Jethro Tull to New Jersey for two shows Tris McCall/The Star-Ledger Published: Friday, June 11, 2010, 12:21 AM Updated: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 3:27 PM www.nj.com/entertainment/music/index.ssf/2010/06/ian_anderson_brings_jethro_tul.htmlThink you’re too punk-rock to appreciate Jethro Tull? Johnny Rotten wouldn’t say the same. Ian Anderson, the charismatic piper who has successfully guided Tull through the shifting pop landscape for the past 40 years, counts the notorious Sex Pistols singer as a fan. “In the ’70s, John Lydon was one of the most vehement denouncers of anything and everything that preceded his band,” says Anderson, 62. “He has subsequently revealed to me, in person, that he was always a Tull fan, and that ‘Aqualung’ was a pivotal record for him. “I believe his pose on stage probably owes something to the cover of that album.” Why wouldn’t it? Years before punk shook up the establishment, Anderson’s lyrics on “Aqualung,” “Benefit,” and other classic ’70s LPs challenged organized religion and confronted social inequality. Anderson’s wild-eyed performances as Jethro Tull’s frontman have been praised for their manic intensity. His eccentric style and sardonic wit continue to appeal to individualists of all kinds. The flute-toting Anderson, who will take the stage with Tull at Caesars Atlantic City on Saturday and the PNC Bank Arts Center on Sunday, believes that reports of ’70s punks loathing the band’s eclectic, thoughtful art-rock have been overstated. “Some of them really did have a genuine disdain for us,” says Anderson, “but much of the animosity was posturing for public consumption.” Anderson, who has always been an instinctive prankster and expert self-parodist, has never been shy about taking his own shots at the excesses of the progressive-rock movement. The frontman confirms that “Thick As a Brick,” which contains one gigantic album-length song spread over two LP sides, was originally meant as satire. “ ‘Thick As a Brick’ was written as a spoof on the prog-rock concept album. Of course, at least 50 per cent of the people who heard it didn’t realize that.” Joke or not, the album remains a cornerstone of the genre: 45 minutes of hard-rock riffs, six-string blues, avant-folk, strings, horns and woodwinds, and over-the-top poetry written in the voice of a precocious, prize-winning 8-year-old schoolboy. It’s a massive work with wide-angle scope, and one that continues to resonate for ambitious musicians. “The Hazards Of Love,” last year’s album-length suite by college-rock favorites the Decemberists, owes more than just its theatricality to Jethro Tull. Anderson isn’t surprised that younger bands are now following Tull’s example — or that it’s once again permissible to chase the progressive muse. “Some of the music from the ’60s and ’70s is benchmark stuff,” says Anderson. “And people in their early 20s often do get interested in the music that might have influenced their parents. Once the disagreeable opposition of adolescence ends, after wandering in the family wilderness for a while, it can be a way for younger people to get in touch with where they come from, generationally and genetically.” The Scottish-born frontman has always found the past compelling. He’s taken inspiration from the traditional culture of the British Isles, impersonating court jesters, voicing minstrels and lamenting the loss of Shire horses. “Songs From the Wood,” the band’s 1977 release, is a sparkling fusion of mainstream rock and English folk. Then there’s his acoustic instrument; not the only one he plays, but the one that’s become indivisible from his public persona. Anderson remains the best-known flutist in rock history. His one-legged standing pose — with the other leg bent at the knee, foot pressed against his calf — has become iconic. It’s distinctive and entertaining, but it’s probably not the approach encouraged by most conservatories. “I picked up the instrument when I was 20, so I didn’t come to it with any preconceptions,” says Anderson, whose overblowing, flutter-tonguing, grunting style remains instantly identifiable. “I had to teach myself to play it in a way where it could be audible in a blues band with four other loud musicians.” Did heavy rockers ever look askance at Anderson and his classical axe? “There was resistance at first from one of our managers. But we were all looking for something that would make us different from the other bands in England in the ’60s, and that was unlikely to mean adding another guitar player who was wallowing in the wake of the greats. The flute set Jethro Tull immediately aside.” Anderson concedes that it always has been a challenge to incorporate the flute into an electric set. “It always was a compromise to get an acoustic instrument heard. I struggle with it even today, where the little condenser microphone frequently fails in high humidity.” It should be hot in Holmdel on Sunday, but we’ll cross our fingers for a dry evening. Tris McCall may be reached at tmccall@starledger.com. Jethro Tull Where and when: Caesars Atlantic City, 2100 Pacific Avenue, Saturday at 8 p.m.; Sunday at 8 p.m. (with Procol Harum opening) at PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel How much: $75-$105 for Caesars Atlantic City ($110-$140 for a dinner package); $25.25-$85.25 for PNC Bank Arts Center. Call (800) 745-3000 or visit ticketmaster.com.
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Post by Blue on Jun 11, 2010 12:01:37 GMT -5
Yes! It's the BPTP!
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 12, 2010 0:29:54 GMT -5
Major disappointment at Jones Beach. Only 12 songs were played, 3 less than in Boca Raton. Cross-eyed Mary, Jack in the Green and Eurology were all cut. I paid $92.00 for only 80 minutes of Tull. The band's performance was good, not great, Ian's voice was strong on some songs and terrible on others. The show was not even close to Tull's 2008 Jones Beach performance. The tailgate party was fun, though. More details tomorrow. Jeff
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Post by Dan on Jun 12, 2010 0:59:26 GMT -5
Major disappointment at Jones Beach. Only 12 songs were played, 3 less than in Boca Raton. Cross-eyed Mary, Jack in the Green and Eurology were all cut. I paid $92.00 for only 80 minutes of Tull. The band's performance was good, not great, Ian's voice was strong on some songs and terrible on others. The show was not even close to Tull's 2008 Jones Beach performance. The tailgate party was fun, though. More details tomorrow. Jeff It appears I.A. prefers to use his talent and creativity on solo shows and let the Tull shows rest on past laurels. I feel really bad for him that he has to deal with all the boorish and drunken U.S. fans and return to the States later in the year in order to finance his long term desire to tour Bora Bora. Dan
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 6:37:44 GMT -5
Major disappointment at Jones Beach. Only 12 songs were played, 3 less than in Boca Raton. Cross-eyed Mary, Jack in the Green and Eurology were all cut. I paid $92.00 for only 80 minutes of Tull. The band's performance was good, not great, Ian's voice was strong on some songs and terrible on others. The show was not even close to Tull's 2008 Jones Beach performance. The tailgate party was fun, though. More details tomorrow. Jeff Sorry to hear about the show, was that $92 for one ticket? I presume no explanation for the shorter show length. Still, looking forward to the review!
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Post by donl on Jun 12, 2010 8:30:16 GMT -5
i was feeling bad that i'd have to miss my first tull ny show since 1976 but i am not feeling bad now. i feel bad for you jeff, the jones beach theater isn't a good venue for tull anymore but i would have been there if i didn't have to work,was considering pnc sunday but for a 12 song set from a band with a 40+ year career and an average of $65/ticket is not with the trip our the money. ian should be ashamed.
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Post by pamelasews on Jun 12, 2010 13:13:13 GMT -5
"Sorry to hear about the show, was that $92 for one ticket? I presume no explanation for the shorter show length."
Ah ... that would be because there was an opening act. Procol Harum. We have been spoiled by various guest violinists, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 13:52:17 GMT -5
Major disappointment at Jones Beach. Only 12 songs were played, 3 less than in Boca Raton. Cross-eyed Mary, Jack in the Green and Eurology were all cut. I paid $92.00 for only 80 minutes of Tull. The band's performance was good, not great, Ian's voice was strong on some songs and terrible on others. The show was not even close to Tull's 2008 Jones Beach performance. The tailgate party was fun, though. More details tomorrow. Jeff I don't know what to say Jeff, that is just horrible. Jones Beach should ban Tull from playing there again. A band of Tull's stature should not be playing 80 minute sets. That just reeks of rip-off. The inconsistent (at best) voice just adds insult to injury.
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Post by Brown Mouse on Jun 12, 2010 21:23:03 GMT -5
I was at the Jones Beach show too. I was a bit sorry they didn't play longer, and was kind of surprised when they got to Aqualung so quickly. For me it wasn't a worse show than many others I'd seen. Maybe this is because I had a great seat--7th row in the center. I thought Martin was awesome and while Ian's voice wasn't always the best, he didn't sound any worse than usual. There were some great moments. I thought Procol Harum did a good job too. Overall it was not the best show I've ever seen but I was not terribly disappointed. They have mellowed over the years and this show seemed similar to others over the past few years.
Cheers, Chris
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Post by Brown Mouse on Jun 12, 2010 21:34:13 GMT -5
Also just wanted to say hi Jeff! I can see why you weren't that excited by the show. I look at it in terms of other artists I have seen. When I've gone to Bob Dylan shows, he is often inaudible, plays 12-13 songs and charges a lot more. I wish the show would have been better, I guess it was worth it to me; maybe this is because I have only been seeing them since the early 1990s. In any case, I hope that if he tours with Tull again they have a better, longer set.
Cheers, Chris
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 13, 2010 8:27:13 GMT -5
I was at the Jones Beach show too. I was a bit sorry they didn't play longer, and was kind of surprised when they got to Aqualung so quickly. For me it wasn't a worse show than many others I'd seen. Maybe this is because I had a great seat--7th row in the center. I thought Martin was awesome and while Ian's voice wasn't always the best, he didn't sound any worse than usual. There were some great moments. I thought Procol Harum did a good job too. Overall it was not the best show I've ever seen but I was not terribly disappointed. They have mellowed over the years and this show seemed similar to others over the past few years. Cheers, Chris Hi, Chris, and welcome here! Glad to have another New York area Tull fan among us. I was sitting two rows behind you at Jones Beach. Your assessment is exactly the way I felt too. It was not a bad show, except that it was so short and subdued because they were playing to a half-empty venue, but it certainly wasn't a memorable one either. It was nothing at all like the packed house that saw a red-hot Tull at the beach for their 40th anniversary. Were you at that one too? That was a special night, but the other night was pretty run of the mill. I will post Part 2 of my review in the separate Jones Beach thread. Jeff
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Post by Brown Mouse on Jun 13, 2010 9:19:14 GMT -5
Hi Jeffand thanks for your message! Good to know there are other Tull fans in the NY area. Yes, I was at that 2008 show too. The set was definitely longer and the crowd was bigger and I left more satisfied. The theater was about sold out that time, as it always seemed to be when I've seen them there. I was pretty surprised at how many empty seats there were Friday, especially upstairs. Maybe because this was the first show of the year there? The guys next to me felt Procol Harum had cut into the set this time.
I'm beginning to wonder how much longer Ian will tour with the whole band. Seems like he is just getting to the point where maybe he can't do it much longer. Maybe smaller places would be better for them at this point. I saw him solo at the Beacon last October (did you see that one?) and it was a really long and fun show--2 sets, in fact. I missed seeing Martin and Doane at that one, but his song choices were great. Would like to see the whole band there again, it's a great venue.
I'll check out your review on the other thread. I'm writing one too and will post a link when it's up.
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 13, 2010 9:43:03 GMT -5
i was feeling bad that i'd have to miss my first tull ny show since 1976 but i am not feeling bad now. i feel bad for you jeff, the jones beach theater isn't a good venue for tull anymore but i would have been there if i didn't have to work,was considering pnc sunday but for a 12 song set from a band with a 40+ year career and an average of $65/ticket is not with the trip our the money. ian should be ashamed. Hi, Donl, you were probably smart for sitting this one out, because 12 songs was just far too short. I like going to see friends and it's always nice to hear Tull, but I spent close to $100 per ticket and expected more than a 75-80 minute Tull set. Aside from the set list being too short and familiar, the show was good enough but not particularly memorable. (See my full reviews in the Jones Beach thread.) Talk to you later, Jeff
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Post by donl on Jun 13, 2010 13:15:05 GMT -5
the '08 show was great at the beach. i just didn't get the frampton as openning act bit, but he probably helped the attendance #'s. procol harum probably didn't excite too many people to attend.
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Post by Bwanabob on Jun 13, 2010 19:34:15 GMT -5
I'm so saddened to hear this report about Jones Beach. I was on the fence about going and since I was really exhausted from work this Friday I bailed. Since we're in the '10s decade this would been my fifth Tull decade (seeing a show in the 70's, 80's etc).
But hearing this report, and seeing the youtube clips, I'm not certain I can bring myself to see such an anemic performance. Maybe Tull have to be creative, the way YES are doing it. Let Ian concentrate on the impeccable musicianship. Get someone who is a real soundalike (from the heyday era), and have him do the singing. Maybe have Ian do one song a night if he's up for it. It's never been made clear to me if there is any reason why he drifts so far out of key. I would think it cannot be his hearing since he plays perfectly. Has he ever actually consulted with doctors and/or voice coaches? Is there actual permanent damage, or is it a breathing issue? If you told me that he'd had a lung removed due to emphysema, I wouldn't bat an eyelash. It would fit the facts. I feel we're not getting the whole story.
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Post by donl on Jun 13, 2010 20:27:30 GMT -5
after the break between underwraps and crest ian came back sounding like mark knopfler. there are songs he can't do anymore and consider leaving out(aqualung IMO). and jones beach the wind seems to carry the vocals out to sea and not to the seats. if they ever come around they should forget jones beach, its too big a venue for them nowadays and should consider westbury music fair or capital one theater whatever they call it nowadays. ian did a solo show there a few years ago and it was the right size venue, acoustics were great and the voice even sounded good that night.
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 14, 2010 0:10:50 GMT -5
I just returned from the PNC show in Holmdel, and I am pleased to report that it was a great show, better than Jones Beach in a number of ways, and for a number of reasons, and by everyone's accounts the best of the three NYC area shows. I will have a full review up tomorrow. Tull always manage to pull you right back in with a killer show! Had the pleasure of meeting Paul (TM) for the first time. He brought his lovely wife and daughters to the show, so I got to meet them too. Heckuva nice guy, that Paul. But I knew that already even before I met him! We've been internet friends and allies for nine or ten years and have spoken on the phone quite a few times since we started this board up. Before the show we had a fun tailgate party with some other members of this board, my friends Rob, Laura and Barry, who once again was generous in providing the food, beer and entertainment, playing some acoustic songs on guitar and singing in his suprisingly mellifluous voice! Barry warmed up Tull with Mother Goose, Jack-A-Lynn and A Small Cigar! A very fun night. Saw tons of Tull friends since everyone seemed to be there, and the crowd was very fired up for the show, which was not the case at the Beach the other night. More to follow.... Jeff
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Post by Chea on Jun 14, 2010 6:33:20 GMT -5
Hi Jeff. I' am very glad you and your family have had such a pleasant evening. I believe Tull never really disappointed anyone... M.
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Post by magicjeff on Jun 14, 2010 9:12:31 GMT -5
The show last night at PNC was awesome. I had 3rd row center seats and in my opinion Tull has never sounded better. Yes it could have been longer and they could have played Thick as a Brick but let's not get greedy. Ian is a great performer, showman, and one of the most original rock legends of all time. There is no other performer that puts his personality into the performance quite like he does. For a 63 year old man he moves around quite well. To be able to balance on one leg like that for more than 10 seconds is quite an athletic feat. Go ahead and try it and you'll see. For me it was a dream come true to see Tull that close... I have never been that close for a concert ever in my life and it was certainly worth every penny. In 1976 I saw my first Tull show at MSG from the green seats with a pair of binoculars. To sit this close was just amazing. At least 3-4 times Ian and I made eye contact and all I could do was laugh. I just found myself smiling throughout the entire concert. I'm sure my wife enjoyed watching me enjoy myself as much if not more than she enjoyed the concert. Jeff
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Post by Tullist on Jun 14, 2010 10:19:04 GMT -5
Cool, more posts from MagicJeff please.
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Post by Brown Mouse on Jun 14, 2010 10:42:46 GMT -5
The show last night at PNC was awesome. I had 3rd row center seats and in my opinion Tull has never sounded better. Yes it could have been longer and they could have played Thick as a Brick but let's not get greedy. Ian is a great performer, showman, and one of the most original rock legends of all time. There is no other performer that puts his personality into the performance quite like he does. For a 63 year old man he moves around quite well. To be able to balance on one leg like that for more than 10 seconds is quite an athletic feat. Go ahead and try it and you'll see. For me it was a dream come true to see Tull that close... I have never been that close for a concert ever in my life and it was certainly worth every penny. In 1976 I saw my first Tull show at MSG from the green seats with a pair of binoculars. To sit this close was just amazing. At least 3-4 times Ian and I made eye contact and all I could do was laugh. I just found myself smiling throughout the entire concert. I'm sure my wife enjoyed watching me enjoy myself as much if not more than she enjoyed the concert. Jeff Jeff, glad you had such a great time! This is how I felt after sitting really close at the Jones Beach show. I'd always been sitting in the rafters but this time I was really close and enjoyed every minute of it.
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