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Mar 28, 2012 21:37:55 GMT -5
Post by Bassackwards on Mar 28, 2012 21:37:55 GMT -5
Finally had a chance to listen closely to Change of Horses. It"s perfect. I too thought I would miss Meena's viola. But O'haras accordian is actually soulfull. I always thought it too simple, but now it just seems perfectly tasteful. The more closely I listen to the drummer, the fonder i get. I'll have to learn his name. This is a great band. The live show will be incredible! I can't turn my stereo loud enough for the big what if's finish.
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Mar 29, 2012 9:23:27 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Mar 29, 2012 9:23:27 GMT -5
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Mar 29, 2012 10:26:10 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 29, 2012 10:26:10 GMT -5
Finally had a chance to listen closely to Change of Horses. It"s perfect. I too thought I would miss Meena's viola. But O'haras accordian is actually soulfull. I always thought it too simple, but now it just seems perfectly tasteful. The more closely I listen to the drummer, the fonder i get. I'll have to learn his name. This is a great band. The live show will be incredible! I can't turn my stereo loud enough for the big what if's finish. He's Scott Hammond. www.scotthammond.co.uk/Welcome to the board BTW. I presume you're an old timer so it's good to have you back with us. Mind sharing you're old moniker?
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Mar 29, 2012 12:41:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2012 12:41:58 GMT -5
making of TaaB 2 preview
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Mar 29, 2012 14:48:53 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 29, 2012 14:48:53 GMT -5
I thought it was common knowledge not to record your vocals while seated?
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Mar 29, 2012 16:52:40 GMT -5
Post by Tullabye on Mar 29, 2012 16:52:40 GMT -5
Fish, Sheep and R&R shows him recording the vocals for Said She was a Dancer sitting down as well.
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Mar 29, 2012 17:04:37 GMT -5
Post by Bassackwards on Mar 29, 2012 17:04:37 GMT -5
Thanks TM. I used to participate in the Tull web forum. (jermaschinot) Man, that was a wacky place! Did you know Positive Pam? She died recently. I hope she knows what's happening in Tull world now. All her positivity has perhaps come to greater fruition than she ever dreamed. It's really nice to have a place here without a lot of insults flying.
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Mar 29, 2012 18:56:43 GMT -5
Post by Nags on Mar 29, 2012 18:56:43 GMT -5
You know I have been looking in to this group for some time, interesting the how some seem to go hot and cold on the TAAB2, the whole Ian and Martin thing. But I wonder if we are not missing the big "What if's" not on TAAB2, but around it. In addition to the four potential routes explored using Gerald, perhaps there is a fifth, the "might have been" of Ian with no Martin; what may have been Ian's path, would he have taken the direction he did, or would it have turned out to be different. In some ways TAAB2 may be Ian working that out. In some ways it allows Martin to explore his alternates.
Just a thought.
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Mar 29, 2012 21:21:22 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Mar 29, 2012 21:21:22 GMT -5
Fish, Sheep and R&R shows him recording the vocals for Said She was a Dancer sitting down as well. Very True. Sitting down may be more relaxing and allow better focus. When you have to remember so much in the studio, it gets frustrating. Ian sounds great either way. I love the video so far. Next week it will be in my Sony dvd player.
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Mar 30, 2012 10:47:35 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 30, 2012 10:47:35 GMT -5
Thanks TM. I used to participate in the Tull web forum. (jermaschinot) Man, that was a wacky place! Did you know Positive Pam? She died recently. I hope she knows what's happening in Tull world now. All her positivity has perhaps come to greater fruition than she ever dreamed. It's really nice to have a place here without a lot of insults flying. I do remember your old name. I have to say though that I like the new one! The old board was crazy. We have a great group of people here and active moderators who do a great job at keeping this place friendly. And yes sadly I did learn of Pam's passing not that long ago. I'd imagine she would have loved this new record.
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Mar 30, 2012 14:26:24 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 30, 2012 14:26:24 GMT -5
Wednesday March 28, 2012 Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson Thick as a Brick 2 Sequels are as common as joblessness and high gas prices these days, but they usually come within a few years of the original release. Think: "The Hangover". For a longer time frame George Lucas comes to mind as he has created sequels spread over a couple of decades with a prequel included as well for his epic "Star Wars" series. However, it's now quite likely Ian Anderson is now the record holder for the longest time between sequels involving the same person with the release of "Thick As a Brick II". "Same person" could be applied to both Ian and our once little protagonist. After forty years (40!) Ian has found an uber-creative way to postulate how little Gerald Bostock's life might have turned out. Instead of picking one pathway for Bostock's life, Anderson has instead offered several possibilities from a greedy banker to a televangelist to a "common" workaday man struggling to make ends meet. Remarkably, Anderson and his chosen band for the programs, not Jethro Tull proper, will perform the pieces back to back on an extensive US tour beginning September 29 in Durham, NC and culminating November 2 in Chicago, IL. Rockline host, Bob Coburn, settled into a Los Angeles area studio on a recent Thursday morning and spoke at length with Anderson who was in the London evening eight hours ahead in time about the detail and intellect involved in resurrecting such a complex project; one that happens to be four decades ago. Coburn called the conversation one of the most engaging of his 'Bostockish' career and claimed the music might actually leave the first TAAB a wee bit wanting. No need to call for this one, the eight hour time difference made the decision for us. Otherwise it would have been, "Ian, do you mind being in a studio at 4:30am to answer calls on Rockline?" He could have slept in until 3:30 or so. Engaging, fascinating, stimulating and downright interesting, you'll enjoy this time spent with the erudite, salmon farming, flautist and lyricist for a project which took half of a lifetime to come to fruition. It's Ian Anderson on the next ROCKLINE for "Thick as a Brick...too". You gotta love Bob's comments "There seems to be a wonderfully increased presence of flute on this album. Is that my imagination"? ;D
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Mar 30, 2012 16:31:02 GMT -5
Post by Cup of Wondering on Mar 30, 2012 16:31:02 GMT -5
Just got my TAAB2 CD today and gave it several spins all day. It's a wonderfull album, a perfect follow-up for TAAB1. There is one bummer though: there are no lyrics in the booklet. So if anyone could help me out, I would appreciate that very much! Would like to add them to the Cup Of Wonder site.
Thanks & cheers, Jan
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Mar 30, 2012 16:46:01 GMT -5
Post by Jioffe on Mar 30, 2012 16:46:01 GMT -5
Just got my TAAB2 CD today and gave it several spins all day. It's a wonderfull album, a perfect follow-up for TAAB1. There is one bummer though: there are no lyrics in the booklet. So if anyone could help me out, I would appreciate that very much! Would like to add them to the Cup Of Wonder site. Thanks & cheers, Jan Hi Jan, As I appear to be the only human here at the mo, I'd better do the honours. www.j-tull.com/discography/taab2/lyricsenglish.pdfThey're also available in Italian, Spanish, German, Russian, Polish and Czech! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Mar 30, 2012 16:48:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2012 16:48:50 GMT -5
Cheek! I'm here [no smart arse replies please]
the english lyrics are also available here earlier in the TAAB 2 thread. The official site only have them as a PDF, here they are not, if using them please credit the copyright info.
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Mar 31, 2012 12:15:12 GMT -5
Post by Jioffe on Mar 31, 2012 12:15:12 GMT -5
Cheek! I'm here [no smart arse replies please] Well I showed up on my tod in the 'members online' bit on the home page! the english lyrics are also available here earlier in the TAAB 2 thread. The official site only have them as a PDF, here they are not, if using them please credit the copyright info. I'd imagine Jan, if anyone, would have clearance from Tull Central! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Mar 31, 2012 13:43:29 GMT -5
Post by Sparty on Mar 31, 2012 13:43:29 GMT -5
I received a promotional copy of the CD several days ago and have since listened to it 12 times start to finish, plus several times just skipping around to favorite or particularly intriguing moments. Please forgive my gushing here, but it's absolutely brilliant and just gets better and better with each passing listen. I was out late last evening and once I arrived home I sat in my car in my driveway and listened to it again, only this time fairly buzzed at 2:30 a.m. Perhaps I shouldn't admit this, but on this particular occasion I was aided by a marijuana cigarette and in this state had my mind blown. I actually wept, not out of sadness but rather the beauty... the complete and utter convergence of music, lyric, and voice. One might think that after so many listens it might start to get a bit stale, but to the contrary, I'm beginning now to spot very many 'little things' that had escaped earlier listens.. like for instance the very subtle little laugh when he sings the word 'optimist' in A Change of Horses. And speaking of which, it was the instrumental break in that song -- from the 3:00 - 5:45 minute mark -- that brought the tears of joy. It is, quite simply, one of the smoothest, tightest, and for want of a better term 'mature' sections of music in the entire Tull/Anderson repertoire. It's just stunning, and with a tad of cannabis and several malted beverages, mind-blowing. I couldn't help but think as I listened that his vocals reminded me an awful lot of Passion Play ('we sleep by the ever-bright hole' section), for some reason. Maybe it's the turns of phrase and emphasis on certain syllables, for example in 'Confessional' the way he sings the words 'invalided out of theatre' is just brilliant. I'm finding increasingly that the vocals may actually be one of the strongest elements on the record. I never in my wildest dreams thought I would be saying that. And oh by the way, 'Kismet' remains my favorite and sounds incredibly good turned up loud, very loud. I'm signing off now to give it another listen. I'm hopelessly hooked.
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Mar 31, 2012 15:50:23 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2012 15:50:23 GMT -5
A marijuana cigarette Ian will not be happy about this! He said a couple of beers! He didn't say anything about "the pot" Seriously though, the 5.1 mix Kicks Ass. I would suggest you all listen that way if you can.
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Mar 31, 2012 17:30:53 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Mar 31, 2012 17:30:53 GMT -5
A marijuana cigarette Ian will not be happy about this! He said a couple of beers! He didn't say anything about "the pot" Seriously though, the 5.1 mix Kicks Ass. I would suggest you all listen that way if you can. Ian doesn't care as long as he doesn't lose his voice with second hand smoke of any blend. Let's all promise to have a brownie before listening to the new album or going to a gig. Party On!~Always use a designated driver no matter what you burn or drink.
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Apr 1, 2012 2:11:01 GMT -5
Post by Karma 41 on Apr 1, 2012 2:11:01 GMT -5
I was fortunate to have my teen years coincide with A Jethro Tull band as it was reaching it's peak. My first show was A Passion Play. I probably attended every major Tull tour from APP to JTDC. I was always known as the 'Tull fanatic.' As Ian began to struggle with his voice, it began to worry me that attending these shows would serve to sully my memories of better days. As the years rolled on and with the live experience and set list seeming to change very little from year to year I decide that I had had enough. It was too hard for me to hear Ian's, what were once pristine vocals, now struggling to sing the classic Tull songs. I decided I likely wouldn't see any more Tull shows. Shortly thereafter came the Ian Anderson Rubbing Elbows Tour and being that it was a chance to see one of my heroes in an intimate setting I apprehensively decided to attend. The show was great. I was even one of the fortunate ones who got to interact with Ian and ask him a question ... in fact it was the SF Rubbing Elbows show that streamed on jtull.com for years. Anyway, I had the time of my life. My wife actually said it was the most enjoyable show she ever attended. Ian was singing his own songs and was playing them in ways he was comfortable performing. A light bulb went off in my head .... this was the only way to see him. I continued to skip Tull shows and only attend the seemingly annual or bi-annual Ian Anderson shows that passed through the SF Bay Area. The shows got better and better. We saw him perform with a small orchestra where the arrangements were amazing and the vocals well within Ian's comfort zone. No more having to sit through Ian's struggles to hit the original notes on Aqualung or Locomotive Breath in their original form as he had done in the previous Tull shows I had attended. These shows were a much more satisfying experience for us. The crowds were also extremely passionate and into the performances, offering up some grand applause throughout the shows. A few years ago, we caught his most recent show at the Warfield. Again, a fantastic show. Some more wonderful arrangements and an animated Ian, once again in great form. Always the ultimate showman. I was able to bring my 6 year-old daughter who for the first time didn't fall asleep at a show. We sat front row and Ian puffed the flute not 5 feet from her face. She was mesmerized and I was living out a life-long dream I had had, to one day take my child to a Tull show. During this show, he played a couple of numbers that unbeknownst to us, ended up on TAAB2. I remember being thrilled at the time, that the new material was getting the loudest applause of the show. I was thinking jeesh (well note really jeesh ;D ), why aren't these songs on an album? Well, now they are and I think they are fantastic. So, I am not at all saddened that Martin is not on the album. It would have been nice, but after seeing Ian's current band and the exquisite performances I had witnessed, I have no problem at all that he did TAAB2 with his current band. I don't care what you call it. All that really matters is that this is pure Ian Anderson ... out in front, animated and doing what he does best. In fact, upon first listen it brought this grown man to tears. No music, as far as I can recall, has ever done that to me. We can intellectualize each piece and attempt to pick it apart, but all it really comes down to is this: Does the piece move you? ... If it does, enjoy and cherish the moment ... I did ... and judging by the reaction of the the Warfield audience on the two TAAB2 songs it witnessed, in addition to the reactions I have read online, many many others are having similar experiences. Bravo Ian. Oh, and Martin, I will hopefully see you shortly. Sorry if I rambled.
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Apr 1, 2012 9:25:11 GMT -5
Post by Rrrrrrrray on Apr 1, 2012 9:25:11 GMT -5
I was fortunate to have my teen years coincide with A Jethro Tull band as it was reaching it's peak. My first show was A Passion Play. I probably attended every major Tull tour from APP to JTDC. I was always known as the 'Tull fanatic.' As Ian began to struggle with his voice, it began to worry me that attending these shows would serve to sully my memories of better days. As the years rolled on and with the live experience and set list seeming to change very little from year to year I decide that I had had enough. It was too hard for me to hear Ian's, what were once pristine vocals, now struggling to sing the classic Tull songs. I decided I likely wouldn't see any more Tull shows. Shortly thereafter came the Ian Anderson Rubbing Elbows Tour and being that it was a chance to see one of my heroes in an intimate setting I apprehensively decided to attend. The show was great. I was even one of the fortunate ones who got to interact with Ian and ask him a question ... in fact it was the SF Rubbing Elbows show that streamed on jtull.com for years. Anyway, I had the time of my life. My wife actually said it was the most enjoyable show she ever attended. Ian was singing his own songs and was playing them in ways he was comfortable performing. A light bulb went off in my head .... this was the only way to see him. I continued to skip Tull shows and only attend the seemingly annual or bi-annual Ian Anderson shows that passed through the SF Bay Area. The shows got better and better. We saw him perform with a small orchestra where the arrangements were amazing and the vocals well within Ian's comfort zone. No more having to sit through Ian's struggles to hit the original notes on Aqualung or Locomotive Breath in their original form as he had done in the previous Tull shows I had attended. These shows were a much more satisfying experience for us. The crowds were also extremely passionate and into the performances, offering up some grand applause throughout the shows. A few years ago, we caught his most recent show at the Warfield. Again, a fantastic show. Some more wonderful arrangements and an animated Ian, once again in great form. Always the ultimate showman. I was able to bring my 6 year-old daughter who for the first time didn't fall asleep at a show. We sat front row and Ian puffed the flute not 5 feet from her face. She was mesmerized and I was living out a life-long dream I had had, to one day take my child to a Tull show. During this show, he played a couple of numbers that unbeknownst to us, ended up on TAAB2. I remember being thrilled at the time, that the new material was getting the loudest applause of the show. I was thinking jeesh (well note really jeesh ;D ), why aren't these songs on an album? Well, now they are and I think they are fantastic. So, I am not at all saddened that Martin is not on the album. It would have been nice, but after seeing Ian's current band and the exquisite performances I had witnessed, I have no problem at all that he did TAAB2 with his current band. I don't care what you call it. All that really matters is that this is pure Ian Anderson ... out in front, animated and doing what he does best. In fact, upon first listen it brought this grown man to tears. No music, as far as I can recall, has ever done that to me. We can intellectualize each piece and attempt to pick it apart, but all it really comes down to is this: Does the piece move you? ... If it does, enjoy and cherish the moment ... I did ... and judging by the reaction of the the Warfield audience on the two TAAB2 songs it witnessed, in addition to the reactions I have read online, many many others are having similar experiences. Bravo Ian. Oh, and Martin, I will hopefully see you shortly. Sorry if I rambled. That was an extremely enjoyable read, went well with the morning coffee, thanks man
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Apr 1, 2012 19:45:29 GMT -5
Post by TM on Apr 1, 2012 19:45:29 GMT -5
I was fortunate to have my teen years coincide with A Jethro Tull band as it was reaching it's peak. My first show was A Passion Play. I probably attended every major Tull tour from APP to JTDC. I was always known as the 'Tull fanatic.' As Ian began to struggle with his voice, it began to worry me that attending these shows would serve to sully my memories of better days. As the years rolled on and with the live experience and set list seeming to change very little from year to year I decide that I had had enough. It was too hard for me to hear Ian's, what were once pristine vocals, now struggling to sing the classic Tull songs. I decided I likely wouldn't see any more Tull shows. Shortly thereafter came the Ian Anderson Rubbing Elbows Tour and being that it was a chance to see one of my heroes in an intimate setting I apprehensively decided to attend. The show was great. I was even one of the fortunate ones who got to interact with Ian and ask him a question ... in fact it was the SF Rubbing Elbows show that streamed on jtull.com for years. Anyway, I had the time of my life. My wife actually said it was the most enjoyable show she ever attended. Ian was singing his own songs and was playing them in ways he was comfortable performing. A light bulb went off in my head .... this was the only way to see him. I continued to skip Tull shows and only attend the seemingly annual or bi-annual Ian Anderson shows that passed through the SF Bay Area. The shows got better and better. We saw him perform with a small orchestra where the arrangements were amazing and the vocals well within Ian's comfort zone. No more having to sit through Ian's struggles to hit the original notes on Aqualung or Locomotive Breath in their original form as he had done in the previous Tull shows I had attended. These shows were a much more satisfying experience for us. The crowds were also extremely passionate and into the performances, offering up some grand applause throughout the shows. A few years ago, we caught his most recent show at the Warfield. Again, a fantastic show. Some more wonderful arrangements and an animated Ian, once again in great form. Always the ultimate showman. I was able to bring my 6 year-old daughter who for the first time didn't fall asleep at a show. We sat front row and Ian puffed the flute not 5 feet from her face. She was mesmerized and I was living out a life-long dream I had had, to one day take my child to a Tull show. During this show, he played a couple of numbers that unbeknownst to us, ended up on TAAB2. I remember being thrilled at the time, that the new material was getting the loudest applause of the show. I was thinking jeesh (well note really jeesh ;D ), why aren't these songs on an album? Well, now they are and I think they are fantastic. So, I am not at all saddened that Martin is not on the album. It would have been nice, but after seeing Ian's current band and the exquisite performances I had witnessed, I have no problem at all that he did TAAB2 with his current band. I don't care what you call it. All that really matters is that this is pure Ian Anderson ... out in front, animated and doing what he does best. In fact, upon first listen it brought this grown man to tears. No music, as far as I can recall, has ever done that to me. We can intellectualize each piece and attempt to pick it apart, but all it really comes down to is this: Does the piece move you? ... If it does, enjoy and cherish the moment ... I did ... and judging by the reaction of the the Warfield audience on the two TAAB2 songs it witnessed, in addition to the reactions I have read online, many many others are having similar experiences. Bravo Ian. Oh, and Martin, I will hopefully see you shortly. Sorry if I rambled. Great post. As much as I (or we) all love Martin, there is no denying that this group of players are capable of some pretty special stuff, and Ian is very comfortable working with them.
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Apr 2, 2012 10:11:49 GMT -5
Post by Preston Platform on Apr 2, 2012 10:11:49 GMT -5
still waiting for my copy to arrive via Amazon
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Apr 2, 2012 16:53:48 GMT -5
Post by My God on Apr 2, 2012 16:53:48 GMT -5
still waiting for my copy to arrive via Amazon Me too, I need a time machine or something. Time for a Change of horses.
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Apr 2, 2012 19:10:21 GMT -5
Post by Geoff CB on Apr 2, 2012 19:10:21 GMT -5
still waiting for my copy to arrive via Amazon Me too, I need a time machine or something. Me three! Why did I order through them? Apparently it's been in Aussie shops for a week...
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Apr 2, 2012 19:47:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 19:47:12 GMT -5
I was fortunate to have my teen years coincide with A Jethro Tull band as it was reaching it's peak. My first show was A Passion Play. I probably attended every major Tull tour from APP to JTDC. I was always known as the 'Tull fanatic.' As Ian began to struggle with his voice, it began to worry me that attending these shows would serve to sully my memories of better days. As the years rolled on and with the live experience and set list seeming to change very little from year to year I decide that I had had enough. It was too hard for me to hear Ian's, what were once pristine vocals, now struggling to sing the classic Tull songs. I decided I likely wouldn't see any more Tull shows. Shortly thereafter came the Ian Anderson Rubbing Elbows Tour and being that it was a chance to see one of my heroes in an intimate setting I apprehensively decided to attend. The show was great. I was even one of the fortunate ones who got to interact with Ian and ask him a question ... in fact it was the SF Rubbing Elbows show that streamed on jtull.com for years. Anyway, I had the time of my life. My wife actually said it was the most enjoyable show she ever attended. Ian was singing his own songs and was playing them in ways he was comfortable performing. A light bulb went off in my head .... this was the only way to see him. I continued to skip Tull shows and only attend the seemingly annual or bi-annual Ian Anderson shows that passed through the SF Bay Area. The shows got better and better. We saw him perform with a small orchestra where the arrangements were amazing and the vocals well within Ian's comfort zone. No more having to sit through Ian's struggles to hit the original notes on Aqualung or Locomotive Breath in their original form as he had done in the previous Tull shows I had attended. These shows were a much more satisfying experience for us. The crowds were also extremely passionate and into the performances, offering up some grand applause throughout the shows. A few years ago, we caught his most recent show at the Warfield. Again, a fantastic show. Some more wonderful arrangements and an animated Ian, once again in great form. Always the ultimate showman. I was able to bring my 6 year-old daughter who for the first time didn't fall asleep at a show. We sat front row and Ian puffed the flute not 5 feet from her face. She was mesmerized and I was living out a life-long dream I had had, to one day take my child to a Tull show. During this show, he played a couple of numbers that unbeknownst to us, ended up on TAAB2. I remember being thrilled at the time, that the new material was getting the loudest applause of the show. I was thinking jeesh (well note really jeesh ;D ), why aren't these songs on an album? Well, now they are and I think they are fantastic. So, I am not at all saddened that Martin is not on the album. It would have been nice, but after seeing Ian's current band and the exquisite performances I had witnessed, I have no problem at all that he did TAAB2 with his current band. I don't care what you call it. All that really matters is that this is pure Ian Anderson ... out in front, animated and doing what he does best. In fact, upon first listen it brought this grown man to tears. No music, as far as I can recall, has ever done that to me. We can intellectualize each piece and attempt to pick it apart, but all it really comes down to is this: Does the piece move you? ... If it does, enjoy and cherish the moment ... I did ... and judging by the reaction of the the Warfield audience on the two TAAB2 songs it witnessed, in addition to the reactions I have read online, many many others are having similar experiences. Bravo Ian. Oh, and Martin, I will hopefully see you shortly. Sorry if I rambled. Great observations...thanks
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