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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 11, 2010 11:48:44 GMT -5
Tootull and I were lamenting the absence of Aqualung from AOL's list of the 100 greatest classic rock song, but get this. Rolling Stone magazine has just updated its list of the 500 greatest songs of all-time, and guess what? Tull doesn't make that list either. Aqualung doesn't make it. Aqualung does not make a list of the 500 greatest songs of all-time! cbs2chicago.com/entertainment/rolling.stone.songs.2.1721498.htmlThat would be the same Aqualung which gets about the same amount of radio airplay as say, Stairway to Heaven, Aqualung which has sold millions and millions of records worldwide, Aqualung which features the most stunning, exciting guitar solo in rock, Aqualung which is the greatest bic-flicking anthem ever played in concert by any band, and Aqualung the timeless classic with lyrics that capture the very essence of the grotesque yet sympathetic homeless vagrant, and which simultaneously manages to evoke in the listener feelings of revulsion, guilt and pity, just as in real life. Oh, but Free-Falling by Tom Petty -- one of the most boring rock songs I've ever heard -- clocks in at #177 on Rolling Stone's list. What the fuck?  Jeff |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2010 12:48:44 GMT -5
Tootull and I were lamenting the absence of Aqualung from AOL's list of the 100 greatest classic rock song, but get this. Rolling Stone magazine has just updated its list of the 500 greatest songs of all-time, and guess what? Tull doesn't make that list either. Aqualung doesn't make it. Aqualung does not make a list of the 500 greatest songs of all-time! cbs2chicago.com/entertainment/rolling.stone.songs.2.1721498.htmlThat would be the same Aqualung which gets about the same amount of radio airplay as say, Stairway to Heaven, Aqualung which has sold millions and millions of records worldwide, Aqualung which features the most stunning, exciting guitar solo in rock, Aqualung which is the greatest bic-flicking anthem ever played in concert by any band, and Aqualung the timeless classic with lyrics that capture the very essence of the grotesque yet sympathetic homeless vagrant, and which simultaneously manages to evoke in the listener feelings of revulsion, guilt and pity, just as in real life. Oh, but Free-Falling by Tom Petty -- one of the most boring rock songs I've ever heard -- clocks in at #177 on Rolling Stone's list. What the fuck? Jeff Who compiles these lists? Recently we had a TV show over here called "So you want to be in a rock and roll band", it culminated in a viewers phone vote. It was so dire I switched off early, the show proposed three guitarists, three singers, three drummers etc. to find Britain's favourite musicans/band! I switched off after the guitarist section; you had to choose from a pre-selected threesome, Slash, Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix......Page and Hendrix I can understand, but Slash? No Beck, No Clapton, No Townshend...add many others who could have made the cut.....and worst of all no Barre!  |
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Post by tootull on Jun 11, 2010 12:51:17 GMT -5
NowayI'mafatman,
I'm positive that you are trying to stir the beastie that's always on Tull's shoulder.
Besides Tull are a heavy metal band . Tell Rolling Stone to take off, eh.
We think alike!
-tootull-talisman haha
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Post by Freightrain on Jun 11, 2010 19:20:11 GMT -5
Jeff, I totally agree. Aqualung surely deserves a place on that list.  |
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Post by Dan on Jun 11, 2010 19:49:52 GMT -5
I have no time for Time Magazine and even less for Rolling Stone.
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Post by tootull on Jun 16, 2010 9:00:42 GMT -5
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Post by TM on Jun 16, 2010 10:02:57 GMT -5
That list is filled with such crap. It's just so ridiculous.  Here's to the jerk-offs who complied it. |
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Post by Morthoron on Jun 16, 2010 12:09:34 GMT -5
I switched off after the guitarist section; you had to choose from a pre-selected threesome, Slash, Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix......Page and Hendrix I can understand, but Slash? No Beck, No Clapton, No Townshend...add many others who could have made the cut.....and worst of all no Barre! I was too young to see Hendrix in concert, but I've seen the rest you listed (Slash, Page, Beck, Clapton, Townshend, Barre). But I have to tell you, Stevie Ray Vaughan was the best guitarist I've ever seen live. Seriously, that dude could jam. In fact, after each song there was a five second lag in applause because people were so enthralled at his playing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 12:16:23 GMT -5
I switched off after the guitarist section; you had to choose from a pre-selected threesome, Slash, Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix......Page and Hendrix I can understand, but Slash? No Beck, No Clapton, No Townshend...add many others who could have made the cut.....and worst of all no Barre! I was too young to see Hendrix in concert, but I've seen the rest you listed (Slash, Page, Beck, Clapton, Townshend, Barre). But I have to tell you, Stevie Ray Vaughan was the best guitarist I've ever seen live. Seriously, that dude could jam. In fact, after each song there was a five second lag in applause because people were so enthralled at his playing. Morthoron Like you, the only gap I have from that list is Hendrix. I'm a Stevie Ray Vaughan virgin [so to speak] I know very little about him but have heard several people extolling his abilities as a virtuoso guitar player. As a bit of an introduction for me, any chance you could recommend an album or two and some essential tracks for me? |
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Post by Morthoron on Jun 16, 2010 12:32:40 GMT -5
Like you, the only gap I have from that list is Hendrix. I'm a Stevie Ray Vaughan virgin [so to speak] I know very little about him but have heard several people extolling his abilities as a virtuoso guitar player. As a bit of an introduction for me, any chance you could recommend an album or two and some essential tracks for me? Actually, it's very odd. I didn't really appreciate Stevie Ray via album. It was only until I saw him in concert that I could really appreciate how blistering he was on that Strat. I suggest going on YouTube and checking his live performances first before picking out albums. I can say he's does fabulous versions of Hendrix's 'Little Wing' and 'Voodoo Chile'. That's another strange thought I just had, I perferred to go see Stevie Ray live (when he was alive) and not listen to his albums; conversely, I will listen to Jimmie Page on Led Zep albums all day, but live he's just very sloppy. Ritchie Blackmore is another guitarist who sounded way better live than in studio; whereas I'd prefer to listen to Tony Iommi's studio work. Meh, I'm picky. The only few rock guitarits who are equally amazing live and in studio are Brian May, Steve Howe, David Gilmour and Martin Barre (who does not get much leeway to jam from Ian, but he is still remarkably consistent from album to live performance) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 12:35:18 GMT -5
Jethro Tull certainly has been forgotten a whole lot by recent generations--their sound doesn't exactly fit with the tastes of today, even with a lot of the teenagers deep into classic rock. As we all know, Rolling Stone didn't exactly favor Tull really ever, and so now that they can get away with ignoring them, they will. Plus, most people pass off Rolling Stone today as a celebrity magazine, having sold out more than they did before.
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Post by Morthoron on Jun 16, 2010 12:43:12 GMT -5
Jethro Tull certainly has been forgotten a whole lot by recent generations--their sound doesn't exactly fit with the tastes of today, even with a lot of the teenagers deep into classic rock. As we all know, Rolling Stone didn't exactly favor Tull really ever, and so now that they can get away with ignoring them, they will. Plus, most people pass off Rolling Stone today as a celebrity magazine, having sold out more than they did before. I stopped getting a subscription to Rolling Stone when they began giving 5 star ratings to Hip-hop albums. I haven't actually read a Rolling Stone since some little priss guy from High School Musical appeared on the cover. And I have a copy of the one and only issue of Rolling Stone where Ian Anderson graced the cover, as well as John Lennon's death remembrance issue. RS used to be a magazine that mattered. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 1:22:46 GMT -5
Even in the old days, though, it seemed like they never had a particular liking for any band that didn't sound like Dylan, the Stones or the Beatles. While they no doubt had cultural influence, it didn't seem they were particularly adventurous with the music they favored.
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Post by Bogenbroom on Jun 25, 2010 14:49:54 GMT -5
Jethro Tull certainly has been forgotten a whole lot by recent generations--their sound doesn't exactly fit with the tastes of today, even with a lot of the teenagers deep into classic rock.... I think Tull was overlooked by my generation as well (I'm 34). Fortune smiles up on those of us who discovered and kept persuing the catalog. The reason Tull doesn't fit today's tastes is that in every aspect of its dated sound, it's a niche unto its own creating a timeless genre, population 1. Those who love music will find them and be rewarded with music the masses have overlooked. |
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 25, 2010 20:50:53 GMT -5
Jethro Tull certainly has been forgotten a whole lot by recent generations--their sound doesn't exactly fit with the tastes of today, even with a lot of the teenagers deep into classic rock.... I think Tull was overlooked by my generation as well (I'm 34). Fortune smiles up on those of us who discovered and kept persuing the catalog. The reason Tull doesn't fit today's tastes is that in every aspect of its dated sound, it's a niche unto its own creating a timeless genre, population 1. Those who love music will find them and be rewarded with music the masses have overlooked. Hi, Jason, how are you? Did you see the recent Tull show in Toronto, or any of the other shows? I have been noticing on FB that Tull do have a surprising number of young fans, so I think there are a lot of twenty-something music fans who have been discovering them lately. Have you checked the Album Wars thread lately? We are stuck on Minstrel - 4, This Was - 0, so how about weighing in on this one? (I have a feeling, though, that your vote may extend the proceedings in this round!) Jeff |
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Post by Bogenbroom on Jun 26, 2010 17:04:30 GMT -5
I was looking for it but couldn't find it! I won't have any time soon to post my thoughts but I will do it! (as soon as I can find it)  |
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 26, 2010 20:20:39 GMT -5
I was looking for it but couldn't find it! I won't have any time soon to post my thoughts but I will do it! (as soon as I can find it) Oh, my bad, I should have told you that it's in our new Be a Whizz Kid Department! Jeff |
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Post by Morthoron on Jun 27, 2010 11:35:35 GMT -5
That would be the same Aqualung which gets about the same amount of radio airplay as say, Stairway to Heaven, Aqualung which has sold millions and millions of records worldwide, Aqualung which features the most stunning, exciting guitar solo in rock, Aqualung which is the greatest bic-flicking anthem ever played in concert by any band, and Aqualung the timeless classic with lyrics that capture the very essence of the grotesque yet sympathetic homeless vagrant, and which simultaneously manages to evoke in the listener feelings of revulsion, guilt and pity, just as in real life. Oh, but Free-Falling by Tom Petty -- one of the most boring rock songs I've ever heard -- clocks in at #177 on Rolling Stone's list. What the fuck? Any 'greatest song' list that includes prepackaged, overdubbed and unimportant performers as Rihanna, Justin Timberlake (Justin Timberlake? Really?), 50 Cent and Missy Elliot is pandering to a certain niche of viewer. The Rolling Stone magazine lost all credibility years ago by accepting poorly produced and empty pop music as part of the rock canon. Drum machines, programming and stealing beats wholesale from other songs does not equate to stellar songwriting or performances. I would love for someone to explain to me the rationale for including Missy Elliot's 'Get Your Freak On' or Justin Timberlake's 'Cry Me a River' as better songs than 'Aqualung' or any number of other great Tull tunes. |
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