Zombywoof
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Post by Zombywoof on Mar 15, 2014 19:54:23 GMT -5
My (hopefully) only little moan about this album, pre-released, is the length - only 51.5 mins. I know it's longer that TAAB and APP, but was kind of expecting a 75min epic. I suppose it's quality that counts though. I'm just a greedy bugger Give me 45-50 solid minutes over 45-50 solid minutes +25 minutes of filler any day! (*ahem* Mars Volta *ahem*)
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Post by homoDUNC78 on Mar 17, 2014 6:35:43 GMT -5
My (hopefully) only little moan about this album, pre-released, is the length - only 51.5 mins. I know it's longer that TAAB and APP, but was kind of expecting a 75min epic. I suppose it's quality that counts though. I'm just a greedy bugger Give me 45-50 solid minutes over 45-50 solid minutes +25 minutes of filler any day! (*ahem* Mars Volta *ahem*) Totally agree. I'd be happy with a new 20 minute album every year. I was just a little shocked with the time length (which added up weeks after we had track titles and durations) when we're getting a 2 LPs, but guessing that's down to when it's appropriate to turn record over. As I said, I'm just a greedy bugger
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Post by TM on Mar 20, 2014 22:38:23 GMT -5
Anyone up for a translated interview? Well then, enjoy: Long I've made in advance thinking about putting together a balanced list of questions , but Mr. Anderson throws after just two minutes, my plans completely overboard . Responding to questions about his latest work he has apparently no desire and thus he uses the ' small stage ' of his futuristic hotel room, which makes me more reminiscent of the command center of the Enterprise , to practice as a politician in continuous speech. At the end of forty-five minutes long interview, I 've heard his views on politics , the current global economic situation , the development of population and related problems , same-sex relationships , space, and extracts from his private life - mostly issues with which Anderson in his brand new album , "Homo erraticus " dealing . His humorous side I learn in the course of the interview, also know as annulling a question of the other participating editor ( online radio) with a dermaßenen dry, British humor , it would have been ripe for the Monty Python's Flying Circus. Ian Anderson knows that he has packed the colleagues concerned by the hair and the poor man makes from then not again . A subsequent question remains completely unnoticed. The remainder of the conversation thus takes place only between Ian and me. Unfortunately, I am likewise the one who does not come as good as to speak. Any approaches to interrupt the conversation to accommodate anything from my question litany fail miserably. Only in very rare moments when Ian gives me the opportunity to ask a question on the topic. So I will limit myself to listen and eager to bring only a few affirmative interjections when Ian between deep breath . Disappointed not to get my questions answered but I am by no means , on the contrary. Since he always perk lets joyful heart of leather and seamlessly switch from one to the next topic , the flood of information is huge and I am amazed at what this man everything goes through my head. I would never have dared me to speak only one of these points , as issues such as politics or intimacies - absolute taboo for an interview - are . The conversation has taken on the character of a lively get-together after a three- quarters of an hour . There is laughter and gealbert until the manager accompanying the character sets for the finale . Mid-sentence, and as if stung by a hornet, Anderson jumps up and thus terminates the interview. My last question for minutes is me already on the lips , I must therefore buried with the other fifteen unanswered . Actually, I wanted to know if Jethro Tull now finally is history and what about his friendship with Martin Barre yet . Thus, this is still in the room. I may be a single Choosing, Ian Anderson signed me out of my stack of LPs, CDs and DVDs. To this end, I get a personal lesson when he whispers to the side pulls me to explain to me the value of a car Grammes . " Do you know Cliff Richard ? " "Yes I know " " I once got an autograph from him long ago. It has worked for me a place of honor , because Cliff gave me time to understand that he is always only ONE autograph! I found and still find it so much that I took it me as well and that's why you 'll now I also only get a signature " At this very moment I learned from this wise man something for the rest of my life ... RockTimes : The ( radio) colleague notes that the title of the new album " Homo erraticus " translates as walkers or tramp means . Ian Anderson : When I got the first line from the first song " Doggerland " written is gone before me this term by the head . I suddenly had in mind the feeling with big footsteps to run through the Dogg Slingerlands . This Dogg Slingerlands are an area that has been one of the last Ice Age to the British Isles , but is submerged. It is not to be confused with the Dogger Bank , which is a well known fishing ground , is hunted in the memory of man for food in the form of fish . Since prehistoric times , man is a hunter on everything can be recycled to the edible . This is the story of the people. What I have done is to send the walker on his way. It is not in the sense of hinlaufen because of where I could now just anyway, but more in the military sense, to conquer new lands. I see this wanderer in many ways. Even as a person who is always striving to discover new things , to spiritually evolve . One can interpret into that person in everything is a personally important. However, one must be a little careful with the expression conquerors. The British and the Americans are not necessarily role models when they have conquered with guns in the hands of foreign countries . Although you can conquer the country , but not the culture. Let us remember only at the time of Queen Victoria , when the British conquered everything , amass only with the intention of as much money as possible for the Kingdom . It is the story of all. You're not from here, I 'm not from here . We all come from somewhere. You can not just talk about the origins of humanity that has taken place somewhere in Africa and then spread in all directions, including up to us to northwest Europe. Remember the story in the Bible , when the tower fell to Babylon, the people were scattered in all directions and have subsequently formed the many different languages. In this story , long after the ice age , I have become a person who just plays progressive rock and has been for one thousand and one million years to a few minutes . RockTimes : The estimated colleague also asks how long to " Homo erraticus " he needed for the composition of the songs and when he has begun . Anderson uses as described in the introduction, his dry humor and plays the colleague a ball , which this unfortunately can not stop . Ian : Yes, well , I did so exactly on 1 January 2013 started exactly at point 9.00 clock in the morning. I really wanted to start a new project on the first day of the new year . ( Anderson has both an impish smile on his face ) . It just had to be that day , so I have absolutely nothing at the beginning of the new year in my head. So I have sat down at 9.00 clock and started playing some simple things on the flute. After a few minutes I had other ideas and after an hour an entire song finished. I then set the rhythm of it and made me a demo for my I-Phone . In the afternoon I started to play some chords on the guitar and suddenly the title of " Doggerland " in my head. At the neighbor and the next day I wrote lyrics to me and then wondered where the journey is going . I wanted to write something about the movement of humanity , not only about the Dogg Slingerlands , which already dates back 8000 years in history. My action jumps continuously through time. One must not forget that the British working class has never earned so much money to travel through Europe. They could not afford crossings by ferry and there was then no cheap flights. It was not with their small means fast times to fly into the sun to Spain, or to afford an apartment or house after the time-share system , along the lines of ' let's leave quickly everything and live for a while in Spain ' . You know , Mallorca and such. Even today, in our country many simple people that desire , but it frightens me to see into the future and to realize that there are many worse off from year to year. Imagine simply times that expected in fifty years from now, some nine billion people could be living on the planet Earth. Where will this herbekommen many trillions for food? We all have only one planet and it just running out of time. If we continue at this rate , then one can estimate that in one hundred or two hundred years not enough food and water will be available for the people and can certainly not be produced. This is the scenario that we have to prepare ourselves . Then there is of course no longer conceivable that people from the south of England just can times go to Spain to live there because there prevail for food production better options because of the climate . Still need and people will then undertake a massive migration of peoples to go where there is something to eat. These are the scenes that I have for the future in my head. Yesterday , for example , I have seen on the news that five hundred people have fallen into this Spanish enclave in Morocco. No matter how high the fences are there , they would take everything on himself , hoping to have a better life. This state is multiply rapidly and can not be stopped . It can stand up no one and just shoot down the invading humans with machine guns, just because you do not want and can not include them in the wealthier countries. That's only one of the problems that will intensify in the near future. What about climate change ? Look at the Gulf Stream , the water cools down more and more . What will happen if this current ceases to flow , which is what is already happening in the foreseeable future? We will get a new ice age . Think back to the seventies , the quantities of snow we had back then and what long and cold winter. Given the prospect of a new ice age my country is not a good choice for Romanians and Bulgarians to go there. However, Romania and Bulgaria would be a great country for the British because of the temperature . Imagine that seven million Britons knock on their door and say, ' Let me in, please .' And just say ' Fuck Off ' and ' disappear ' . ' We want to and we do not need you ' . That is the scene that will have our grandchildren and great grandchildren. A huge annoying dilemma. At the moment there are only a few hundred thousand here and a few hundred thousand there. The future of the effect is an incredible idea for me. My personal opinion is : ' Less is more ' . You simply can not make it work for all people and not satisfy all their desires, they have now times because it is constantly dangled before them that we live in paradise . Of course we must accustom ourselves to share more and give more . We will not be able to avoid a worldwide birth control. Look at the statistics, such as birth rates in the different countries . You live in a country whose average is 1.5 . In my country it is even lower . But look at times the countries in which it is normal to have five or far more children. They make absolutely no idea about how to feed the children and what will become of those times are . There can never be enough to eat and there can never be enough work . Since even help no charities to tackle these problems. It is an absolute nightmare for me , as the time to end. It's just not nice. I'm not talking about other people dictate how many children to have and I'm not here to tell other people that it is not allowed to enter our country. I just want to give an impulse to think about when and how we can draw a line and need . We need to change our social behavior fundamentally. At this moment, the people are angry and angry and shout everything out . RockTimes : What are you doing personally to participate actively in this problem? Donate you a lot? Do you do in social projects ? Will you help that people do not have enough to eat in fifty years? Will you help as best you can ? Ian Anderson Interview with Ian : You have the problem once on another level encounter . Look at you, how have set the changes in the weather in the last few years . January was the wettest month since time immemorial in England. This enormous flood the country had never been . Many people have simply lost everything , life overnight in poverty , do not know how to get food and no longer have a roof over their head. This was previously unimaginable to us. This is followed , people need to get used to . In the coming decades there will be many more such problems , not only in our region but worldwide. Look at America with these incredible snow storms. This also increases from year to year. Since weather records began , no such significant changes have been observed in such a short time . Also growing in many parts of the world the heat in the summer . Look at the cover photo to . I call him Speermann , the survivors. He moves in a world that was a time . About desolate areas to have dried up and no longer able to prosper life. In the background smoke on the horizon , the apparent rising like a volcano. A backdrop like . Ending time of a film, such as from Utopia It looks a bit like a motive , though not necessarily from hell , but still very scary. On the back of the album is then to see that, while the survivor wants to go. Towards blossoming landscapes with reconstructed cities. All very peaceful and promising. That's what he's looking . We are all actually in life only on one search. Everyone should go where he thinks he find what he seeks. My own children , if they could not survive in England, suddenly knocking on your door. They could , for they are in the position to do what they want . I could build them a boat , or get a plane. You have to go the way wherever they want , but so many other people in the world are not able to do so. You can not go when the tide flooded everything , or the drought deprives them of the food. I think very much about the issues as and would prefer to help a lot more. I'm trying my help , be it in the form of cash or in-kind donations to distribute as much as possible . I give not only an organization or individual person , but I try to reach as many as possible. And I 'm learning a tremendous amount . There are plenty of people who write to me begging letters . They usually start with "Dear Mr. Tull " or " Dear Jethro ." This can or I will not take it seriously , because these are people who want to enrich me. I read these letters as good as ever. But someone writes me , "Dear Mr. Anderson ," touched me more than when then are those superficial writing. I take then the time to read it and hope to be able to recognize the fact that this man really needs help. Over the years I have become very careful and check just exactly who does a good job and a charity operates , where you can see that the Donated even among those matters that it is really needed . How many relief funds are there who constantly raise money , but you never see action. I would never give my money , because I think they're doing a good job . My son , for example, is an actor . At the moment he has a job and I know well that he will donate a portion of his salary. Just two days ago we were talking about the fact that we both really do not pay enough taxes. About fifty-five percent are usual with us . There are people who earn ten, twenty or fifty million pounds or dollars a year to pay eighty percent tax and then whine around. Rich people do not have a twenty million earnings in the year ? These people should still be happy that they can keep their 100 000 020 million, can donate eighty million . Everyone that is doing so well would have to wake up in the morning and say to yourself , I 'm a lucky man to have so much money and to be able to do what I want. Bernie Ecclestone is alone so much money for his daughters . Do you hear me, that he donates what? Such people we do not need. To which I say only ' Fuck Off ' ( makes up the typical middle finger salute) . The times should pay all taxes properly and not flee from their countries to tax havens . In my circle , I have a man sitting in the Labour Party in Parliament. We have often discussed about why there are no graduated tax system in our country . This could flow in hospitals and social institutions lot more money. We could create a curve where everyone can see where he stands. I mean the proportion of earnings and the taxes paid . If anyone deserves only one thousand , then maybe he should have ten percent taxes. Deserves someone ten thousand a month, then just proportionately more percent more and so on . Just look at the super-rich in our country to . Through our outdated system it is these people too well . I am a practicing , very socially committed person . I explained from a young age to be social to my son. I have always told him how important it is to pay taxes. I have him always tried almost get that he wants to please imagine what it is for a good feeling to the streets to run in his country along to see to the left and to the right and to realize that he has helped with his money to that it is as it is . Look at us both . We earn both money and give some of it to the state, so it all doing better. It makes aggressive to see me be as celebrated in Monte Carlo parties that are aligned only to waste . I do not believe in capitalism. I believe in a social system . Unfortunately, it is becoming increasingly difficult to implement social behavior, not on a planet with nine billion people . With three trillion it would probably go . Believe in Economie and always remember , less is more. Trust the Norwegians , who do it right . I can give an example of you yet . My penis is three millimeters shorter than the average penis. My wife has never complained. ( General laughter and I use the situation to steer the conversation with a question in a different direction . Yet while the question he reminds me again to the word and I promise him that the thing to tell with the penis anyone. Then I can repeat question and ask to end ) RockTimes : Is "Homo erraticus " the continuation of a never-ending story about Gerald Bostock ? In such a short time after " TAAB2 " could be the suspect . Ian Anderson and Holger Ian : No, it is not provided. I have to have the ability to contribute as a copywriter each character in my stories . With the next release a completely new character could be created . Maybe over a whole album or a single song . Also, could resurface an already Forgotten . It's always a surprise to the delight of fans. I call it a back story . Let's look to the east. Mr. Putin is about to invade Ukraine. So it looks at least if one considers the matter on one side , such as in the American version . To put it but to understand correctly, you need a lot more background information. Only people who are intensely committed , the relationship between Russia and the Ukraine know . It is not sufficient if one looks at the superficial news from BBC or CNN. It takes a lot more knowledge. At home I sit at any time using the remote control of our TV in the hand. My wife hates it I turn my way through the station and try to get as much information as possible. Back and forth between CNN and VOX TV, which is an ultra-right channel. Sky TV is only on popularity and the BBC is usually completely neutral . Often I look at Russia Today . There will always be towed neatly over the United States. Of course, the only negative things looking out . Is a typical transmitter, which is controlled by the Kremlin. As with Press TV , a channel from Iran. Again, completely different. I love me constantly informed to constantly hear other people's opinions . I always want to know what in the world is going on. Every day I spend at least half an hour with the processing of messages. I still remember it very well when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon. I have followed this all the time in front of the TV . He was also a wanderer , a traveler in space, in the search for what aliens might have a message for him. Neil , Buzz and Michael were a team . Brave men who had given their lives to be able to experience what millions of only dream of. I find it sad that no one has invested so more people can fly to the moon . Even in the ISS is not as much money is invested and in a few years they will crumble into a thousand pieces . The only way currently to get up and down to the ISS is a Russian Soyuz rocket. A very daring venture, I think, given the outdated technology. It would probably be better and safer to fly into space with a Porsche Turbo , and associated with fewer emissions. One of my flutes is flown on a Soyuz into space and came back without prejudice to the penultimate Space Shuttle . I know how much did it cost . This is calculated in pounds and costs 35,000 - U.S. dollars per kilogram . The flute weighs about five hundred grams , plus a few grams for packaging. Astronauts may take up to two pounds of personal items with up . With all the trimmings of transport and the stay of my flute in space about 50,000, has - dollar cost . RockTimes : Would it have been your desire to be once even in space? Ian : No , absolutely not . The other day my wife said that I should get something from the garden , and as early as the second step on the ladder I was dizzy . I also have great fear of flying. When I think that we then fly to Cologne , I'm already a bit nervous . RockTimes : Do you believe that the moon landing was real or a fake ? Ian : ( He laughs loudly) Yes, I 'm sure it was real. I think it is much more complicated to fly to Mars. This could really be a mission of no return . Many people would like to do that in spite of all dangers . There are many civilians who have already registered and for which money is no object . But whether it can be realized in the period in which they still have to live , I doubt it. I believe that even in the time in which my children live, it is hard to realize this . We first need to drive for better ways to do research long distances to be able to overcome . Maybe we can find a wormhole that transports us into a parallel universe . Then we can begin to think about other planets to colonize . Until that is the case, we must put our own doorstep and get the problem under control for now. I think so in the future and I believe that one day humanity will reasonable. The people and especially the politicians need to work on yourself. How long are Obama and Cameron to the government? Happened since then nothing . The want but leave a positive image in the history books. Tony Blair, that was a good prime minister. So not only do I feel . Nevertheless, he is listed negative in the history books. Think about Iraq. He is angry that he is not measured by its positive properties. He has done much good for the UK , but is only associated with Iraq. Look now Afghanistan. Almost the same situation , only one other country. Why does it always have to interfere all ? Let but the people there in peace. Centuries before it have all managed to solve their own problems . Maybe gets the Ukraine by now even a western and an eastern part . We could do the same with Scotland. The British send men with boots and rifles to Scotland and take which not only the oil away and try it then also to civilize . Ian Anderson and Mike In England there is a saying that is, " In for a penny, in for a pound " and means something like that you can do with a little more , or with which to be content with what one has. I have connected to the end of the album to give people back a little optimism. In "Homo erraticus " I have asked a lot of things in the pillory , but not to have a smile on his face without . Some one should not take it too seriously , but about other things you should think even more intense. I hope that this makes many people find it easy to stimulate the process of reflection . Is something you can not express with three -minute songs , have the highest two hundred letters in the text . We have the ability to express ourselves in our language that is not spoken in different languages , but always says the same thing. I want to share my thoughts with my listeners and inspire yourself to think so. When I think back forty-two years , as I have " Thick As A Brick" written , as have people excited about it and said that Ian Anderson wants to encourage people to think. I then viewed the journalists , put on a puzzled face, and simply said 'Yes'. Of course I want to encourage you to think. Sure thing , what is the wrong with that? Bob Dylan and John Lennon did not do anything else. You have written music for thought. Sure, some songs were there because , with whom they have made money , but primarily them has something different at heart . What they have done is not to preach , but just to open people's eyes to think about maladministration . Through speeches is given to things in motion and action you can feel more joy again . We can rejoice in children and it to put baby into the world . However, we need to think about how many . My wife and I have decided to get two children. We have made this decision together , when I was in his early thirties . Now we are blessed with a boy and a girl. Why do we need more ? You have to be sterilized the closest option and you have to use the contraceptive option , or you're going to David Furnish . ( He laughs loudly) Do whatever you want , no matter even if you 're gay . I think if you live out his sexual inclinations , you can have much more joy in life. Unfortunately, all is not yet arrived in many people. Look at the various countries around the world , where it is still a status symbol to have as many children as possible . Other couples have for the bad luck to be able to get any . Nevertheless, they have the option to adopt which , for example, from countries where there is great poverty. Sure that's always a difficult decision. It took me about never think intensively and I'm glad. Luckily, there are now also the possibility that homosexual couples , whether gay or lesbian, children can adopt . Why is that supposed to be bad for children ? These children still grow but up in an environment that is not just same-sex couples . They play with boys and girls who go to mixed schools and I think that they can be characterized much more tolerant and open-minded educated. As a child, do not you look but your parents having sex , so really it does not matter whether the couple , which rears up is same sex . In recent years, fortunately limits have thus opened . Of course there are many countries in the world still major problems with it. I recently read a fan website in the U.S. that Ian Anderson determined with his new CD " Homo erraticus " big problems is getting. The read only the word ' homo ' and combine it with some negatives. I seriously wonder what species of people that do not know what the word ' gay ' means . Are those which blow from the ' Canus lupus ' or ' Philus Cattus ' ? Where live today? Do not you know that because the term ' homo sapiens ' ? I just wonder what these types for an education. I've got absolutely no understanding of . I guess those people even as very dangerous. Anyway . ( He jumps up out of nowhere and ended the conversation ) rocktimes
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 20, 2014 23:53:12 GMT -5
Think don't I able to be talk straight again ever a for while now. Thanks for posting though. I think Ian needs to stick to answering musical questions and leave the naive rambles at the office, or just let the lyrics speak his mind. But then I'm not really sure what I just read. Is the BBC really neutral?
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Post by Dan on Mar 21, 2014 0:17:01 GMT -5
Think don't I able to be talk straight again ever a for while now. Thanks for posting though. I think Ian needs to stick to answering musical questions and leave the naive rambles at the office, or just let the lyrics speak his mind. But then I'm not really sure what I just read. Is the BBC really neutral? Yes, wonder self, which U.S. fansite Ian Tull refers to and why him bother come promote new release in Autumn months amongst the land of ignorant and intolerant? $$
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Post by Heavy Horse on Mar 21, 2014 5:01:58 GMT -5
Who translated that? Yoda? I've never been happier, that I can speak and read German!
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homoDUNC78
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Post by homoDUNC78 on Mar 21, 2014 5:07:05 GMT -5
Brain can't cope with that. I'll wait for DR's interview in the next AND mag.
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Post by homoDUNC78 on Mar 21, 2014 7:04:40 GMT -5
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Post by homoDUNC78 on Mar 21, 2014 7:31:26 GMT -5
This sounds so brilliant!. What a GREAT concept! Like Taab2, I can't stop listening to the samples, but this album, however has greater gravitas. Synopsis below of tracks. PART ONE: CHRONICLES CHAPTER 1 Doggerland. 7000 BCE. These four walls, this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. Separation from Europe post ice-age. Island Albion, Britannia. The re-colonisation by animals and humans. Neolithic man. Beaker people. The re-connection with Europe. CHAPTER 2 Heavy Metals. 750 BCE – 43 CE. The first Iron Age, The plough, the axe, the sword. Blacksmith, weaponry, tools. The birth of the Bomb….. CHAPTER 3 Enter The Uninvited. 43 CE – 410 CE – 1960! Romans/Saxons/Vikings/ (God bless the) Americans. Burger kingdom, the Cocaine Cola, nylon stockings, CIA. CHAPTER 4 Puer Ferox Adventus. 313 – 600 CE. The coming of Christianity Puer Indomitus. Pagan to Christianity, Constantine conversion. The saviour sucks them in. The soft sponge absorbs, blots and blends. Jesus’s story. The Wild Child prophet and revolutionary. CHAPTER 5 Meliora Sequamur. 12th century. The Grammar School of history and more modern. Mortarboard, gown, hood, lace. This Grammar School Boy. Scolae grammaticales, quadrivium. Lost innocence of fondly-remembered harsh schooldays. CHAPTER 6 The Turnpike Inn. 1750. The superhighway: you pays your way….. you takes your choice, change your horses, raise your voice. The highwaymen. Last man on the gallows tree. CHAPTER 7 The Engineer. 1847. Brunel’s tunnels, tracks and bridges. Box Tunnel. Great Western. Bristol. Second Iron Age. The Railway. Steamship to the Americas. CHAPTER 8 The Pax Britannica. 1815 – 1914. The Imperial Century. Empire and expansion. Albert, Victoria. Commerce and trade. The power and corruption to follow. PART TWO: PROPHECIES CHAPTER 9 Tripudium Ad Bellum. 1914 – 1939. Preparing for battle. Dancing (marching) to war. Mobilisation and ultimatum. The onslaught and ferocity of two World Wars. CHAPTER 10 After These Wars. 1950s. Loss of Empire. Post-WW II age. Coming of TV, new prosperity, mechanised agriculture. CHAPTER 11 New Blood, Old Veins. 1960s. Package holidays, Discovering Europe, becoming part of a bigger world. The Brit abroad on holiday! PART THREE: REVELATIONS CHAPTER 12 In For A Pound. 2013. Here we go, here we go, here we go….. CHAPTER 13 The Browning of the Green. 2014. Unsustainable population, economic and social stress, crowded urban spaces. The despoiling of the rural idyll. We foul our own nest. CHAPTER 14 Per Errationes Ad Astra. 2024. Spoken word admonition and warning from the far, alien side. CHAPTER 15 Cold Dead Reckoning. 2044. Turmoil, tempest, sea-level rise, end of the old order. Rise of a new moral compass and spirituality. Optimism. Rebirth. A new Eden. link
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Post by TM on Mar 21, 2014 9:48:39 GMT -5
Who translated that? Yoda? I've never been happier, that I can speak and read German! Translation courtesy of Google.
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Post by TM on Mar 21, 2014 9:54:10 GMT -5
Think don't I able to be talk straight again ever a for while now. Thanks for posting though. I think Ian needs to stick to answering musical questions and leave the naive rambles at the office, or just let the lyrics speak his mind. But then I'm not really sure what I just read. Is the BBC really neutral? Thank you. Remember though, things can get lost in translation so we have to take these words with a grain of salt regardless. The BBC is as neutral as Fox is ultra-right wing.
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Post by TM on Mar 21, 2014 10:20:07 GMT -5
Think don't I able to be talk straight again ever a for while now. Thanks for posting though. I think Ian needs to stick to answering musical questions and leave the naive rambles at the office, or just let the lyrics speak his mind. But then I'm not really sure what I just read. Is the BBC really neutral? Yes, wonder self, which U.S. fansite Ian Tull refers to and why him bother come promote new release in Autumn months amongst the land of ignorant and intolerant? $$ While it's always nice to know Ian reads our board, I do recall comments made on another site regarding the "controversy" and "anxiety" of fans dealing with the name. I know we've had some fun with the title but I don't recall anything to get offended by. And I'm happy to report that the Westboro Baptist Church has never felt the need to go after us. lol.
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Post by Zombywoof on Mar 21, 2014 11:52:42 GMT -5
That 'name' controversy is all over. It's not just the JTB.
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Post by TM on Mar 21, 2014 13:48:04 GMT -5
This sounds so brilliant!. What a GREAT concept! Like Taab2, I can't stop listening to the samples, but this album, however has greater gravitas. Synopsis below of tracks. PART ONE: CHRONICLES CHAPTER 1 Doggerland. 7000 BCE. These four walls, this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. Separation from Europe post ice-age. Island Albion, Britannia. The re-colonisation by animals and humans. Neolithic man. Beaker people. The re-connection with Europe. CHAPTER 2 Heavy Metals. 750 BCE – 43 CE. The first Iron Age, The plough, the axe, the sword. Blacksmith, weaponry, tools. The birth of the Bomb….. CHAPTER 3 Enter The Uninvited. 43 CE – 410 CE – 1960! Romans/Saxons/Vikings/ (God bless the) Americans. Burger kingdom, the Cocaine Cola, nylon stockings, CIA. CHAPTER 4 Puer Ferox Adventus. 313 – 600 CE. The coming of Christianity Puer Indomitus. Pagan to Christianity, Constantine conversion. The saviour sucks them in. The soft sponge absorbs, blots and blends. Jesus’s story. The Wild Child prophet and revolutionary. CHAPTER 5 Meliora Sequamur. 12th century. The Grammar School of history and more modern. Mortarboard, gown, hood, lace. This Grammar School Boy. Scolae grammaticales, quadrivium. Lost innocence of fondly-remembered harsh schooldays. CHAPTER 6 The Turnpike Inn. 1750. The superhighway: you pays your way….. you takes your choice, change your horses, raise your voice. The highwaymen. Last man on the gallows tree. CHAPTER 7 The Engineer. 1847. Brunel’s tunnels, tracks and bridges. Box Tunnel. Great Western. Bristol. Second Iron Age. The Railway. Steamship to the Americas. CHAPTER 8 The Pax Britannica. 1815 – 1914. The Imperial Century. Empire and expansion. Albert, Victoria. Commerce and trade. The power and corruption to follow. PART TWO: PROPHECIES CHAPTER 9 Tripudium Ad Bellum. 1914 – 1939. Preparing for battle. Dancing (marching) to war. Mobilisation and ultimatum. The onslaught and ferocity of two World Wars. CHAPTER 10 After These Wars. 1950s. Loss of Empire. Post-WW II age. Coming of TV, new prosperity, mechanised agriculture. CHAPTER 11 New Blood, Old Veins. 1960s. Package holidays, Discovering Europe, becoming part of a bigger world. The Brit abroad on holiday! PART THREE: REVELATIONS CHAPTER 12 In For A Pound. 2013. Here we go, here we go, here we go….. CHAPTER 13 The Browning of the Green. 2014. Unsustainable population, economic and social stress, crowded urban spaces. The despoiling of the rural idyll. We foul our own nest. CHAPTER 14 Per Errationes Ad Astra. 2024. Spoken word admonition and warning from the far, alien side. CHAPTER 15 Cold Dead Reckoning. 2044. Turmoil, tempest, sea-level rise, end of the old order. Rise of a new moral compass and spirituality. Optimism. Rebirth. A new Eden. linkVery interesting, and should make for excellent discussion - controversial, and otherwise.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 22, 2014 1:29:18 GMT -5
Think don't I able to be talk straight again ever a for while now. Thanks for posting though. I think Ian needs to stick to answering musical questions and leave the naive rambles at the office, or just let the lyrics speak his mind. But then I'm not really sure what I just read. Is the BBC really neutral? Thank you. Remember though, things can get lost in translation so we have to take these words with a grain of salt regardless. The BBC is as neutral as Fox is ultra-right wing. To say something was lost in translation is an understatement, however anyone who claims to be getting their news from those TV "news" channels is naive in thinking it's real news. The only time these entertainment channels are any good at all is when something like the Boston Marathon bombing or a 911 happens, where one gets things in real time where the usual spin has less time to develop. It's all sport anyway isn't it. Especially politics. Everything is agenda and money driven and it's all spin and opinion. Not the best source for educating yourself on world events. The world doesn't need more information anyway, it needs wisdom.
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 22, 2014 18:39:34 GMT -5
From the samples I would have to say that most of this music sounds pretty interesting and different. Sure there are flashes of Dot Com, Divinities, Rupi and Brick 2, and sometimes the similarities are too close (one song reminds me of Photoshop, another like Hot Mango Flush), but there is still plenty of material here that sounds fresh, not like tired retreads. However, I don't agree with those who say the vocals are any better than on Brick 2. They sound about the same to me.
I'm not quite sure what's going on with the lyrics. Aside from the excessive wordiness, with far too many syllables crammed into each musical line (which is atypical of his lyrics until recent years), there are also a number of instances where Ian is rhyming multi-syllabic words, like tolerated and overrated. This is not exemplary lyric writing, and something Ian has nearly always avoided in the past.
One of the many things I have always greatly admired about Ian's lyric writing in the past is his excellent sense of rhyme, i.e., keeping the rhymes simple, avoiding cliched and multi-syllabic rhymes, and understanding that rhymes do not always have to be exact. Also, up until recent years, the lyrics almost always were perfectly matched to the music, in terms of rhythm and meter. That does not always seem to be the case here.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 23, 2014 22:01:10 GMT -5
From the samples I would have to say that most of this music sounds pretty interesting and different. Sure there are flashes of Dot Com, Divinities, Rupi and Brick 2, and sometimes the similarities are too close (one song reminds me of Photoshop, another like Hot Mango Flush), but there is still plenty of material here that sounds fresh, not like tired retreads. However, I don't agree with those who say the vocals are any better than on Brick 2. They sound about the same to me. I'm not quite sure what's going on with the lyrics. Aside from the excessive wordiness, with far too many syllables crammed into each musical line (which is atypical of his lyrics until recent years), there are also a number of instances where Ian is rhyming multi-syllabic words, like tolerated and overrated. This is not exemplary lyric writing, and something Ian has nearly always avoided in the past. One of the many things I have always greatly admired about Ian's lyric writing in the past is his excellent sense of rhyme, i.e., keeping the rhymes simple, avoiding cliched and multi-syllabic rhymes, and understanding that rhymes do not always have to be exact. Also, up until recent years, the lyrics almost always were perfectly matched to the music, in terms of rhythm and meter. That does not always seem to be the case here. Jeff As a music first guy myself, you have sent me back to the booklets to re-read and listen again to many a Tull track over the years. I don't think I know anyone who sees behind the veil of intent, between the lines, or the poetic magic of Ian's lyrics more than you do. You have given me new insight and appreciation for the old bard's scrbblings more than I otherwise would have. Hey, gotta raise a glass to ya. Salute!
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Post by TM on Mar 24, 2014 11:09:40 GMT -5
This is the first album by any artist that I can think of that has so many references to their past songs or albums. So far I've heard influences from TAAB, John Barleycorn, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, TAAB2, AWOL, Rare and Precious Chain, LITP, Hot Mango Flush, and Mayhem Maybe.
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Post by TM on Mar 24, 2014 13:00:13 GMT -5
Talk of Homo on Amazon.com is quite similar to talk on a Tull Board..... Mikejraso says: well as usual mr Anderson is as always beyond his years . well done minsteral.... BruceK says: $70 bucks ... For a puffed up collection off underdeveloped ideas that did not make it into the TAAB2 album ... For the first time, I have to say, enough is enough Ian - for God's sake. T DAWG says: I for one, Truly hope that this is better than TAAB2. I almost walked out of the concert at the SF Opera house. Lets get back to the basics, and lets play some "Great Old R&R!!!" Ian, Bring it on! Or is your flute getting just a bit....... limp? Just Sayin'... BruceK says: TAAB2 was so watered down, half of it was pretentious poetic nonsense, and of the other half a lot of that was Jethro Tull cliches that were so glaring it did not sound like any new Tull album I've ever heard. I played it for about a month and then put it away. I like "Changing Horses" and "Shunt and Shuffle" ... but both were underdeveloped. I really cannot believe this new album is $70, this guy is such a greedy SOB, and I bet the album just sucks. And I know the title sucks ... Homo Erraticus? or homoeroticus ... maybe Ian is coming out of the closet, flute in hand. At the point of several years back I would not go to another Tull concert, or Ian concert. Much I like to hear the live shows, it's just too painful and a waste of money as the videos on You-Tube will attest to. Collectors Edition ... my ass! The Who Detroit says: One week ago the price was $59.. four days ago $62.50.. three days ago $70 and then one penny increases to $70.04. Amazon plays around with the pricing. Same story with The Who Super Deluxe Tommy Box. One week before issue the price was $92-$97. It changed daily and now it's $122. Melodica says: Asinine comment. Walk out, who gives a damn. Ian's playing is still superb. BruceK says: The problem is that so many songs have vocals in them, and Ian croaks like a frog when he sings now. If you do not see that or think you can pretend it doesn't matter, and say who cares, all you can say is that you say you do not care. Fine, but I've been following Tull since I first heard them in 1970 ... and I care, and I don't want to hear any more of that in concert. It's a rip-off, and it's sad. T DAWG says: Asinine Comment? I have seen Ian & Tull Many Times. I will always be fan. I am a big Tull fan. However, of All of the Tull Concerts that I have seen, this was my least favorite, and would never repeat that. The only worse possible concert would have been "A Passion Play". Gawd that was horrid! I noticed 10 yrs ago, Ian could not hit those notes as we all remember. BTW... How did you like the TAAB2 concert? Or were you out on the front porch listening? The walls tend to muffle the sounds... It was not very good. Get a ticket next time. E.I.E.I. Owen says: Amazon doesn't control the price. The price is set by the label. If they want to change the price prior to release they can do that. Melodica says: 1st of all, you keep referring it as a "Tull" show, it is not. It was billed as Ian Anderson. 2nd, to answer your question I did see the TAAB2 show. 7 times actually, two outside the States. So with all your smart a*s remarks (front porch?), you still don't know what you're talking about. Matthew Schwarz says: Regarding the $70 box set - you can just buy the regular CD for $15 if you're so interested. The $70 deluxe edition stuff is how musicians and record labels can make a little extra profit off of those who are willing to spend more - just like DVDs/blurays with bonus material, etc. The "extra" stuff is usually of minimal value, so if you object to the price (or simply only feel like paying for the worthwhile stuff - the actual "Album"), don't buy deluxe editions! Considering how much music is stolen off the internet via illegal downloads, it's understandable that the music industry would have a way to make a little extra profit. The fact that we can still get the regular album for the same price CDs cost 30 years ago seems pretty decent to me! Also, I do recall Tull putting out their remasters at affordable prices ($12 seemed the average), while other artists like Metallica and Floyd were selling their old stuff for $18. Regarding TAAB2 being poetic nonsense and Tull/Anderson playing some "great R&R" - um, are you familiar with this artist? Tull was doing artsy 40-minute song concept albums in their heyday, then went on to do folk & renaissance influenced music at the height of the punk fashion movement. Now that Ian's an old man, you expect him to just play some 3-chord rock? You can go to Aerosmith (skip the ballads, though!) and AC/DC to hear some old men still rockin' it, but Anderson is one artist I want to hear be artistic! And, considering Ian's voice problems, what's the point of him just rockin' out? I'd say the opposite - I'd like him to do more stretching out of musical ideas with long instrumental sections to take advantage of his still-excellent musical skills, and focus away from his reduced vocal abilities. As for the shows - there I kind of agree with the critical view. Ian's voice problems pretty much ruin otherwise excellent performances, particularly when he keeps rehashing the very early Tull stuff (Aqualung-era) and the shorter, vocal-based material. I think the more he does instrumental stuff and later stuff the better it works. So, I'd much rather hear him perform a new album than keep rehashing the usual classics. That said, the Thick As A Brick 1&2 tour I saw, he had a young dude helping him on vocals and this was a HUGE benefit to the show. Anyway, I liked TAAB2 - it's not a total masterpiece, but it's pretty good and a welcome return to the sort of progressive rock that I like from Tull, and I'm looking forward to this album (which I'll economically purchase in it's 1-disc version!). T DAWG says: I must agree w/ most of your post. TAAB was awesome. TAAB2 was good. Mostly because it was something new for Ian & Tull. I agree that having the other singer (Gerald Bostwick?) was very good. It let Ian do his instrumental best. Call me nostalgic, but I long for the days of Classic Tull. I am hoping, and praying that the new album- Homo Erraticus is good, Classic Tull. Call me old school, or even..."Living in the Past"... (Sorry, I couldn't resist!), but the artsy, poetic stuff just doesn't get a rise out of the audience. Come on Ian... One more time! Philip A.Cohen says: Yes, Amazon DOES have some control over the price. This tactic of briefly having a very low price for the first 1 to 2 days of preordering, then drastically increasing the price, is Amazon testing how much consumers would be willing to pay. For those consumers who are still undecided whether or not to buy a Deluxe boxed set(whether it is by Ian Anderson, The Who or Led Zeppelin), Amazon helps us to make make a decision....a decision not to buy. In this age of illegal free downloading, Amazon's roller coaster pricing strategies will only leave Amazon as the loser. BruceK says: > Amazon's [ roller coaster ] pricing strategies will only leave Amazon as the loser. I doubt that. Amazon knows what it is doing. While I do not like a $70 release ... mostly because I have lost trust in Ian & Tull now. I would not have second thoughts had this been just 3 or 4 years ago, but after TAAB2, no way. Most of us have been steadfast Tull fans and to gouge us like this really makes me angry and resentful. I have bought so many of the same albums over and over. Vinyl, cassette, CD, etc. Whatever, Ian can have his illusions and delusions and dislike Americans all he wants, or rip-off his fans. I appreciate the music I have gotten already ... I still remember $2.99 an album as a kid. I think LITP was like $8.00 when it came out. Other than this I think Amazon download prices are fair, and these special sentimental releases ... well, you know a capitalist loves customer sentiment ... it's cash in the bank. Philip A.Cohen says: But I wasn't referring strictly to Ian Anderson's boxed set, but to costly boxed sets in general; ones that are in a higher price category than the Ian Anderson set. Jeffrey R. says: Has there been a falling out between Ian and Martin Barre? Will they ever play together again as Jethro Tull? Ian can't really call his latest band Tull (and he doesn't), because any band called Jethro Tull must have Martin in it! BruceK says: Kind of interesting ... ole Ian is kind of like our pal Gordon Sumner, AKA Sting, playing with the Police people really wanted to see him and his old hits ... at least at one time, but as Sting, and particularly with his own peculiar kind of not so mass-appealing music, he is not that big of a draw - despite all the media hype whenever he decides to play somewhere or go on tour. I wonder if there is any hope of my favorite lineup of Tull to get back together in a sort of non-Ian-centric way, that was, Ian, Martin, Jeffrey, Barrie, John and now "Dee". That would be quirky, the last big rock band with a quasi-woman in it - can you imagine? Seriously, I really wonder what happened between Martin and Ian or if Martin just got fed up with Ian's egomania, or if Ian just thought Martin was not really contributing anything new to "his" band and decided to replace him. Florian is a very good guitarist, but there is not much there new, he mostly seems to be another studio guitarist, and also becoming quite rotund, as Martin used to be. And of course they would have to have the new vocalist of Tull ... whoever that guy is that Ian sometimes lets sing on stage between his own froggy croaks! Ribbet, ribbed! I don't think Ian could let go of being the old Charlie with his grip on the handle ... no way to slow down. Joe Zeppie says: Yes Jeffrey I agree with you 100%. Without Martin in there it is not Tull. Who is to say if Martin will play with Ian again, but right now it sure doesn't look that way. Ian has a reputation concerning the musicians he has play with him. Remember Barrie Barlow? Remember John Evans? I would suggest though that you check out all of Martin Barre's solo recordings. Martin is a fine musician and a great guitarist. Did you know that Martin was a favorite guitarist of Frank Zappa's. Plus Martin is a fine individual. Joe Zeppie says: I seriously doubt you will ever see a reunion of sorts. John Evans now lives in Australia. Barrie Barlow is very successful doing what he is doing, running a studio I believe. Martin is a great guitarist and his songwriting is finally out there for people to hear. He did write a lot of the music end of tull. I'm not sure why Ian left Martin out of the new TAAB but I do know that Martin really took it to heart. Maybe it was just money as Ian is quite into money. If you haven't heard Martin's latest recording you should give it a go. It's really good stuff and the guy he has sing on it sure has a good voice. BruceK says: I've heard all of Martin's stuff, as I have all or almost all of the other former band member's efforts. I really like a small percentage of it, but mostly it doesn't grab me like Ian and Tull's stuff does - that's just the facts. I don't know why or how Ian can write or make up music. I suspect that he does it by brute force more than inspiration and I imagine he probably has a system and layers rhythm upon rhythm until he gets what he likes. Technically he, Ian, is the best, amazing, but I think as he gets more technically proficient he also gets more like a museum, kind of dead. I really liked the life energy I used to hear in the early Tull recordings. I really missed Tull for the live shows, even seeing my first show of Passion Play in 1973 they were already road weary and the West Coast of the US was always the last tour they did, so they were not really energetic and kind of robotic, anything but smiling and happy. I once saw the Stones at the Oakland Coliseum, somewhere around 1998, and although the Stone are not my favorite band by a long shot, I have to say the energy and fun they were having was infectious. Jethro Tull really never has this kind of fun in their performances with Ian's attitude and canned old jokes that he uses for decades. It's OK, it's a living I guess for them. Martin's stuff is too regular, pat. It's like it is always the same musical structure and very predictable - good, but predictable. Some of it is really great though and I play it when I am biking or running. The last album I think he did was very peculiar ... it was a series of old Tull songs with some kind of Martin's stuff prepended on to the beginning. I was wondering if this was some kind of legal trick that he has to do because they are Ian's songs, or what? It made me wonder just how bad the blood is. And, yes, I know they are not going to be playing together most likely ever, but still can't stop me from saying I'd like to see it. Anything to put Ian in a place where he is uncomfortable and not in total control because I think that is what makes his stuff not as good - but that's just a guess. I really did not like the TAAB2 album. Even though there were 2 songs on it I played over and over the whole feel of the record was wrong and kind of creepy. Ian's world view is so strong and just not the best thing to try to express in music ... maybe unless it's military music or something! ;-) Just a joke. I still look forward to whatever they do, but I guess the days of going and getting a new Tull album and just getting lost in it for months are gone for me now. That's OK, I am more into jazz, classical and folk. Joe Zeppie says: I can understand what you are saying about both Martin and Ian's music. Playing and working together they both bring together two elements and make the final product shine, very much like Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters. But take them apart and there is something missing, very much like the Floyd guys. Personally I really liked tull from the beginning to the recording with Budapest. That's when I believe Ian's writing started to fail. To me Budapest is a bore. Every time I heard it in concert I was ready to take a nap, until Martin's sort of solo. Ian loves that song though. I think it fit his vocal range when he wrote it. From then on I really haven't cared for most of what was put out. There are a few songs here and there but overall I do believe Ian was living in the past. I think Martin did the last recording for the fans. I'm not really sure though as I haven't talked to him about it. I did like how it is basically an acoustic recording with slight stabs of the electric guitar coming through every now and then. I do wish Martin would sing once again on his recordings. He believes that his singing is horrible, but I disagree. On his first solo recording "A Trick Of Memory" his vocals go with the music and he can develop them as time goes on. Look at Neil Young. And Martin himself has said that while he doesn't care of Neils guitar playing nor Neils vocals, he loves Neils songs and music. So go figure. Your last sentence reminds me of life and time and how what was once may never be again. It's true with many, many musicians. Ian's voice is not what it used to be and it will never be what it was. Maybe Martin and Ian will get together for another project, but that is hard to say and your guess is as good as mine. I used to listen to tull's music daily but that stopped years ago. I am a music person though so music is in my blood, all sorts of music as well. I do listen to Martin's stuff as I do like his style. I always thought he was a very underrated part of tull for years, but then I started to notice how audiences cheered for him when Ian would introduce him during their concerts. He needs to sing once again though. BruceK says: Links to the Homo Erraticus sample page on the JT/IA website: jethrotull.com/homo-erraticus-website-launched-album-samples-available/anonymous says: Then buy the ten dollar version. Or not.
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Post by Heavy Horse on Mar 24, 2014 17:06:59 GMT -5
Yes, a lot of that sounds like it could be on here. That BruceK sounds like an absolute cock-socket, though!
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 25, 2014 0:38:43 GMT -5
This is the first album by any artist that I can think of that has so many references to their past songs or albums. So far I've heard influences from TAAB, John Barleycorn, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, TAAB2, AWOL, Rare and Precious Chain, LITP, Hot Mango Flush, and Mayhem Maybe. I heard a glimmer of Photoshop in there somewhere too, and also some flute bits that remind me of Divinities.....which he's never really gotten totally away from since, well, Divinities. Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 25, 2014 0:47:57 GMT -5
From the samples I would have to say that most of this music sounds pretty interesting and different. Sure there are flashes of Dot Com, Divinities, Rupi and Brick 2, and sometimes the similarities are too close (one song reminds me of Photoshop, another like Hot Mango Flush), but there is still plenty of material here that sounds fresh, not like tired retreads. However, I don't agree with those who say the vocals are any better than on Brick 2. They sound about the same to me. I'm not quite sure what's going on with the lyrics. Aside from the excessive wordiness, with far too many syllables crammed into each musical line (which is atypical of his lyrics until recent years), there are also a number of instances where Ian is rhyming multi-syllabic words, like tolerated and overrated. This is not exemplary lyric writing, and something Ian has nearly always avoided in the past. One of the many things I have always greatly admired about Ian's lyric writing in the past is his excellent sense of rhyme, i.e., keeping the rhymes simple, avoiding cliched and multi-syllabic rhymes, and understanding that rhymes do not always have to be exact. Also, up until recent years, the lyrics almost always were perfectly matched to the music, in terms of rhythm and meter. That does not always seem to be the case here. Jeff As a music first guy myself, you have sent me back to the booklets to re-read and listen again to many a Tull track over the years. I don't think I know anyone who sees behind the veil of intent, between the lines, or the poetic magic of Ian's lyrics more than you do. You have given me new insight and appreciation for the old bard's scrbblings more than I otherwise would have. Hey, gotta raise a glass to ya. Salute! Thanks, Michael, and I have benefitted greatly from your insights into the musical side of Tull. I've always felt that, as great as the music is, I would never have been nearly as fascinated with it or as drawn to it, if Ian had been an average or below-average lyricist. The first album I heard was Aqualung, at the rebellious age of 15 (typical of us male Tull fans to have first gotten into it at that same age), so those lyrics naturally hit home, and then the first new album that was released after I discovered them was TOTRNR with Ray Lomas giving the 'up yours' gesture, and all those vulgar lyrics......I was hooked. Jeff
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 25, 2014 1:49:13 GMT -5
As a music first guy myself, you have sent me back to the booklets to re-read and listen again to many a Tull track over the years. I don't think I know anyone who sees behind the veil of intent, between the lines, or the poetic magic of Ian's lyrics more than you do. You have given me new insight and appreciation for the old bard's scrbblings more than I otherwise would have. Hey, gotta raise a glass to ya. Salute! Thanks, Michael, and I have benefitted greatly from your insights into the musical side of Tull. I've always felt that, as great as the music is, I would never have been nearly as fascinated with it or as drawn to it, if Ian had been an average or below-average lyricist. The first album I heard was Aqualung, at the rebellious age of 15 (typical of us male Tull fans to have first gotten into it at that same age), so those lyrics naturally hit home, and then the first new album that was released after I discovered them was TOTRNR with Ray Lomas giving the 'up yours' gesture, and all those vulgar lyrics......I was hooked. Jeff I had a different reaction to Aqualung. There was some conflict with hearing some of IA's lyrics early on, as was the case with Aqualung which was also the first one I heard. Tull lyrics were the first to ever affect me that way. For the first time I thought the lyrical content of a band carried enough weight to balance with the music. Perhaps that was the reason I tolerated the unsettleness of that first listen. Well, that and those dead pan riffs that graced the album. What an awakening that was. In the end, I settled on the idea that the lyrics to Aqualung were sketches, just some paint strokes on a canvas to cause one to pause. It offered no conviction or resolutions for me, just the observations of the sort that most of us at that age had thought about at one time or another, suddenly thrown out into the open.
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 25, 2014 12:56:29 GMT -5
This is the first album by any artist that I can think of that has so many references to their past songs or albums. So far I've heard influences from TAAB, John Barleycorn, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, TAAB2, AWOL, Rare and Precious Chain, LITP, Hot Mango Flush, and Mayhem Maybe. I heard a glimmer of Photoshop in there somewhere too, and also some flute bits that remind me of Divinities.....which he's never really gotten totally away from since, well, Divinities. Jeff ....or if you listen to the outro of "The Engineer", there is certainly something from "SLOB".
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Post by Oldghost on Mar 25, 2014 17:54:08 GMT -5
I've just heard "Enter The Uninvited" (different mix compared to that official sample we've heard) and I think it's pretty DotCom-ish overall, not just because of clear resemblance to "Hot Mango Flush". Also...it's threatening chords remind me alot on "It All Trickles Down", which was actualy an outtake from DotCom, wasn't it?
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