They are not performing on TAAB2 because Ian blew them off, plain and simple. And if I recall correctly, both Barriemore and Martin were quite put off by the snub.
I will continue to maintain that Mr. Anderson made a mistake in using hired hands to imitate a Tull album. And that to me is what TAAB2 is: a solo effort stealing bits and pieces of a masterpiece in order to sell more CDs and garner more press than he's had since Tull won a Grammy. It is fine as solo albums go, better than all his others from a cumulative standpoint.
Personally, I think Ian should have swallowed his ego 30 years ago and brought in another singer. Listening to him live is gut-wrenchingly painful at times.
Is it a coincidence that you dislike Ian's personality, his actions, his vocals nowadays, the musical content of TAAB2 and imfugus?
You sound like a crying baby to me.
I have a valid opinion that runs counter to yours, and I stated specifics as to why I felt that way; ergo, I'm a crying baby? Well, I have no intention of being a bootlicker for anyone, although you are most welcome to fill any vacancies in case Ian needs his shoes shined.
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
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Re: TJTB's 'Official' Review of TAAB2 « Reply #161 on Jun 2, 2012, 3:36am »
Is it a coincidence that you dislike Ian's personality, his actions, his vocals nowadays, the musical content of TAAB2 and imfugus?
You sound like a crying baby to me.
I have a valid opinion that runs counter to yours, and I stated specifics as to why I felt that way; ergo, I'm a crying baby? Well, I have no intention of being a bootlicker for anyone, although you are most welcome to fill any vacancies in case Ian needs his shoes shined.
What makes me think strangely of your opinion is the coincidence that you seem to strongly dislike a) Ian's personality, b) his vocals nowadays and c) his songwriting abilities nowadays - three things that are completely unrelated, but can be all used to bash Ian. The fact that you list one negative thing after another and the vocabulary that you use. One can say stuff in a much nicer way. Even a negative opinion. Saying "your post is completely idiotic" to someone who didn't insult anybody or did anything particularly extreme, really, seems pretty childish to me. All he did was giving a point of view that is favorable for Ian. Something that you don't quite seem to like to see, because you detest Ian Anderson. And calling me a "bootlicker" because of what I said, screams "maturity" too. Let alone the way your reviews of TAAB2 are written.
And even if - I'd rather be a bootlicker than as filled with hate as you are. It seems like you can't even imagine what this man has achieved in his life. If there are people who deserve to get their boots licked, hell yeah, then Ian Anderson is one of them.
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Re: TJTB's 'Official' Review of TAAB2 « Reply #162 on Jun 2, 2012, 8:46am »
In reference to all this talk of 'Licking Boots', I always liked Ian's Boots too.
"In your pomp and all your glory you're a poorer man than me, as you lick the boots of death born out of fear. I don't believe you: you had the whole damn thing all wrong -- He's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays."
What makes me think strangely of your opinion is the coincidence that you seem to strongly dislike a) Ian's personality, b) his vocals nowadays and c) his songwriting abilities nowadays - three things that are completely unrelated, but can be all used to bash Ian. The fact that you list one negative thing after another and the vocabulary that you use.
In reply: a) Did I say I strongly dislike Ian's personality? Certain aspects perhaps. I don't put anyone on a pedestal like a sycophant. I honestly think Ian's ego got in the way for TAAB2, and the album suffered for it. Fine solo work though, as I said in the review. Could've been better removing the TAAB references. b) His vocals are dreadful. Have been for decades. The best thing for Ian is not to tax his vocals and stick with acoustic songs - that way you can still get a faint glimmer of his old voice. This is also the case for TAAB2. c) I don't believe I bashed his songwriting ability anywhere. But hey, make up whatever you'd like to try to prove a pointless point.
Saying "your post is completely idiotic" to someone who didn't insult anybody or did anything particularly extreme, really, seems pretty childish to me.
It was idiotic. It took a premise that never existed and was untrue and tried to make it fact. I suppose one could exchange the word "idiotic" for "full of shit" or "talking out of your ass". The line:
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From things I've read in numerous places, the veterans of Tull (Doane Perry, Martin Barre, etc., etc.) are not performing on TAAB2 by choice.
Is not true. No one said they were not performing on TAAB2 by choice, and this did not appear in numerous places. They also did not decline because they couldn't tour anymore. But with your rose-colored glasses you'd prefer to go after me rather than seeing the issue as it is.
All he did was giving a point of view that is favorable for Ian. Something that you don't quite seem to like to see, because you detest Ian Anderson. And calling me a "bootlicker" because of what I said, screams "maturity" too. Let alone the way your reviews of TAAB2 are written.
I took someone to task about an untruth that was favorable to Ian and prejudicial to other former band members. Get your facts straight. Nowhere have I written that I "detest" Ian Anderson. That is laughable; in fact, I am one of the biggest boosters on Tull on the internet. As far as maturity, it is overvalued. We wouldn't be here at 50 talking about rock bands if maturity was a primary concern. In regards to my review, I was asked by Paul to write an unbiased review of TAAB2, warts and all, that would get discussion going. I believe I achieved it. If he had asked to write a gilded piece of bullshit for fanboys, I would have declined, and left you to write about your teen heart throb.
And even if - I'd rather be a bootlicker than as filled with hate as you are. It seems like you can't even imagine what this man has achieved in his life. If there are people who deserve to get their boots licked, hell yeah, then Ian Anderson is one of them.
"Filled with hate"? That is funny. Your whole paragraph here tells me everything I need to know about bootlicking, and I decline your invitation to stick my nose up someone's ass. We are talking about a review of a single album here, junior, not handing out a life achievement award. On my blog, I have six Tull albums listed among the greatest rock albums ever recorded. Anderson's legacy has nothing to do with TAAB2. Perhaps if you understood the difference between one album and lifetime achievement you'd make more sense.
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
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Re: TJTB's 'Official' Review of TAAB2 « Reply #175 on Jun 4, 2012, 10:57am »
Morthoron, the words that you use are hilarious. I stopped talking like that when I was 12. You probably write like that intentionally to provoke me. Well, I stopped doing somethng like that when I was 12, too. Rock on.
Morthoron, the words that you use are hilarious. I stopped talking like that when I was 12. You probably write like that intentionally to provoke me. Well, I stopped doing somethng like that when I was 12, too. Rock on.
You must have been quite literate at age 12. What happened? Stroke? Loss of motor function? Alien anal probes?
And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George, who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision...
Morthoron, the words that you use are hilarious. I stopped talking like that when I was 12. You probably write like that intentionally to provoke me. Well, I stopped doing somethng like that when I was 12, too. Rock on.
You must have been quite literate at age 12. What happened? Stroke? Loss of motor function? Alien anal probes?
Maybe one too many hits out of Ian's flute-pipe.
Careful though, two out of three of those guesses could have actually happened (and not affected literacy at all) and you might feel bad about joking around about it.
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