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Post by My God on Jul 17, 2012 13:39:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 14:59:55 GMT -5
LOL, I love how this has strayed so far from the original topic. I used to be a member of forums where the moderators were like nuns with rulers, sad, sad forums they were.
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Post by jtul07 on Jul 17, 2012 15:38:21 GMT -5
LOL, I love how this has strayed so far from the original topic. I used to be a member of forums where the moderators were like nuns with rulers, sad, sad forums they were. Pearl : "Now Jethrine, go ahead and tell all the nice people who you really are."Jethrine : "I can't mama, it's a secret. Besides, Ian Anderson told me not to."...........
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 16:04:05 GMT -5
I hope this is the end of That!!!! Well you can hope.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 23:55:37 GMT -5
LOL, I love how this has strayed so far from the original topic. I used to be a member of forums where the moderators were like nuns with rulers, sad, sad forums they were. Pearl : "Now Jethrine, go ahead and tell all the nice people who you really are."Jethrine : "I can't mama, it's a secret. Besides, Ian Anderson told me not to."........... Jim, no matter how far you go and no matter what kind of self destructive things you've done recently or in your past, I will always respect you for the fascinating person that you are. It's okay..... Darin
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Post by jtul07 on Jul 18, 2012 7:20:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 12:00:06 GMT -5
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Post by jtul07 on Jul 18, 2012 12:32:06 GMT -5
Now I do feel special ! I can become Jethrine or Jethro Tull . I am Jethrine. Hear me Roar!
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Post by My God on Jul 18, 2012 18:21:49 GMT -5
As Darin says, Jim is outside the box. Perhaps Jim just turned the box inside out, with his mind. Food for thought!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 20:18:08 GMT -5
Ian would be proud of this great success.
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Post by jtul07 on Jul 19, 2012 7:04:35 GMT -5
Ian would be proud of this great success. At the risk of going out on a limb, I brought in the analogy of Jethro and Jethrine. I always had a feeling that Jethrine was Jethro (Max Baer) in drag but the voice threw me. Her voice was actually Linda Kaye Henning "Betty Jo" from Petticoat Junction.
Considering Ian's dislike of the name Jethro, Jethrine Tull would be even more controversial. In the spirit of "Thick as a Brick" the topic became quite different in some ways.
The main point began after the dispute over the War Child Queen Elizabeth and even Frank Zappa. I felt very confident that Ian would confirm he did not shave his whiskers to become Elizabeth. Thanks Ian ;D ;D You Da Man!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2012 9:50:18 GMT -5
It is interesting to note that in a Tony Stewart dated Jun 5 1976 article for the New Musical Express. I have posted the entire interview in Ian in his own words. www.tullpress.com/nme5jun76.htmmade this observation about Ian: First impressions of Anderson are immediate. He's surprisingly slighter in physique than photographs suggest, to the point of seeming vulnerable. He's politely mild-mannered and softly spoken. And he's incredibly scruffy, wearing a black leather biker's jacket, and soiled black jeans. His hair is a wild frizz, and the early stages of a beard dirtily shades his face. More opinions are formed over the evening while we dine and drink together. Wary, but not totally intolerant of the press, particularly NME who he feels have been particularly unkind to him over the last three years, it's soon apparent that the social evening is indeed an acceptable method of familiarising ourselves with each other, but also an opportunity for Anderson to discover my attitudes towards him. Yes, he's sussing me out. After being grilled by the Spanish press (who ask if he's bisexual or if he's made love to Henry Kissinger — really), we move into the hotel restaurant, and chat idly over the meal. Guardedly, Anderson is polite. He maintains a distance, and his only spontaneous action is to studiously and repeatedly sniff his steak, and then finally jerk a piece from his mouth, declaring loudly that it's dogshit!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 8:01:22 GMT -5
It is interesting to note that in a Tony Stewart dated Jun 5 1976 article for the New Musical Express. I have posted the entire interview in Ian in his own words. www.tullpress.com/nme5jun76.htmmade this observation about Ian: First impressions of Anderson are immediate. He's surprisingly slighter in physique than photographs suggest, to the point of seeming vulnerable. He's politely mild-mannered and softly spoken. And he's incredibly scruffy, wearing a black leather biker's jacket, and soiled black jeans. His hair is a wild frizz, and the early stages of a beard dirtily shades his face. More opinions are formed over the evening while we dine and drink together. Wary, but not totally intolerant of the press, particularly NME who he feels have been particularly unkind to him over the last three years, it's soon apparent that the social evening is indeed an acceptable method of familiarising ourselves with each other, but also an opportunity for Anderson to discover my attitudes towards him. Yes, he's sussing me out. After being grilled by the Spanish press (who ask if he's bisexual or if he's made love to Henry Kissinger — really), we move into the hotel restaurant, and chat idly over the meal. Guardedly, Anderson is polite. He maintains a distance, and his only spontaneous action is to studiously and repeatedly sniff his steak, and then finally jerk a piece from his mouth, declaring loudly that it's dogshit! Charlie, thanks for finding that interview and posting it here. A few things spring to mind having read it all. Firstly how great a resource is Tullpress, brilliantly conceived and well put together. AJ needs to be congratulated constantly on how good it is. Secondly, How did I miss this first time around, I subscribed to NME getting every copy from around 1970 through to the point around 1979 where it became the absolute nemesis of everything related to decent music, despite the fact that one of my mates was writing for it at the time. He's was the only voice of sanity on the paper. I don't recall this interview at all. Maybe it was one of my 'light and bitter' moments. Thirdly, I think it would make a good starting point for an 'Analyse Ian' thread. examining some old interviews and his views and considering them against his comments in later years, it seems that he has held some contrasting opinions over the passage of time, not that threre's anything wrong with that, but there's some considerable diversity in those opinions at times, as well as some significant contradictions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 7:45:39 GMT -5
I am listening to a recording from May 27 1970 from Port Chester were Ian himself says he is effeminate because he was Scottish and had to wear a kilt, which he also said he kind of likes. It was when Ian was introducing My God.
interesting especially with this topic....
Which is a killer performance and one of the better sounding recordings from 1970
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Post by kcrvrrnnr on Aug 9, 2012 20:55:47 GMT -5
Interesting how this thread has never touched on Ian's take on David/Dee Palmer.
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Post by tabitaanderson on Feb 7, 2013 7:14:42 GMT -5
As for the video in which he's made up, it was super normal at this time, but does not mean anything, it can only be kidding, I thought not so gay, and even if not, it does not make him less a man, to me he can like what it is, I think he sexy, masculine and beautiful. would have no problem.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 18:20:33 GMT -5
Dare I say, Every man has sexual tendencies towards other men in my experience. This has been evident throughout the ages. All you have to do is observe the relationship between the men in high school, college, and professional sports teams! There is no man exempt from female qualities--and perhaps this is what makes some men so prone to proving themselves as men! (something I--along with everyone else-- am not innocent of)
But yes, Ian is effeminate. Many frontmen of rock bands of the era are. It's what makes Mick Jagger so much fun to watch, and I think the same goes for Ian. If he secluded his choreography to only manly moves, he would would not be as wild and exciting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 20:35:36 GMT -5
I think the title of the thread is erroneous. I dont think Ian is "effeminate" in any way, at least not in the way I understand the term, which is to say that the way Ian walks or talks is "swishy".... Ian has never struck me as gushing or "girly". I do think he has a highly developed "feminine" side. That is to say that he is sensitive to poetry the arts, beauty and the finer side of life, rather than a chesty longshoreman that feels he must go out of his way to prove he is a man and eschew anything that does not demonstrate his toughness. As a matter of fact I think Ian demonstrates great comfort and confidence with his masculinity by being able to 1. play the flute 2. where tights and a codpiece and stand on one leg while doing it. 3. write, sing and play some of the "sappiest" and sensitive" love songs like a man that cares deeply about someone or something. I happen to have a certain perspective on this having heard the "You play flute? huh...huh.. huh huh...do you play skin flute?" question more than a couple times over 40 years from some asswipe goofball and I have 2 or 3 good combacks for them. Darin
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Post by Icy Lucifer on Feb 8, 2013 5:11:52 GMT -5
Dare I say, Every man has sexual tendencies towards other men in my experience. This has been evident throughout the ages. All you have to do is observe the relationship between the men in high school, college, and professional sports teams! There is no man exempt from female qualities--and perhaps this is what makes some men so prone to proving themselves as men! (something I--along with everyone else-- am not innocent of) But yes, Ian is effeminate. Many frontmen of rock bands of the era are. It's what makes Mick Jagger so much fun to watch, and I think the same goes for Ian. If he secluded his choreography to only manly moves, he would would not be as wild and exciting. I'm not quite sure which part of your post is bollocks, old chap. Oh, yes I do. All of it. Icy L
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Post by TM on Feb 8, 2013 12:11:16 GMT -5
I think the title of the thread is erroneous. I dont think Ian is "effeminate" in any way, at least not in the way I understand the term, which is to say that the way Ian walks or talks is "swishy".... Ian has never struck me as gushing or "girly". I do think he has a highly developed "feminine" side. That is to say that he is sensitive to poetry the arts, beauty and the finer side of life, rather than a chesty longshoreman that feels he must go out of his way to prove he is a man and eschew anything that does not demonstrate his toughness. As a matter of fact I think Ian demonstrates great comfort and confidence with his masculinity by being able to 1. play the flute 2. where tights and a codpiece and stand on one leg while doing it. 3. write, sing and play some of the "sappiest" and sensitive" love songs like a man that cares deeply about someone or something. I happen to have a certain perspective on this having heard the "You play flute? huh...huh.. huh huh...do you play skin flute?" question more than a couple times over 40 years from some asswipe goofball and I have 2 or 3 good combacks for them. Darin I think you nailed Darin, and my comments in the "manly" thread were based exactly on that situation you described.
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