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Post by Mothfairy on Jan 21, 2014 20:49:16 GMT -5
Well yes! Sometimes.
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Post by Zombywoof on Jan 25, 2014 18:23:39 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this, Tulltapes!
It's interesting how many bands influenced each other in spirit and their way of doing things, though not in sound. Brian Rabey's book, "A Passion Play" links Tull to Beefheart and Zappa - three artists who sound nothing alike, but share a similar approach to their art. It's interesting, also, how many *fans* on here list Tull, Zappa, Beefheart, and Rush in the "Top Ten" favorite bands thread. There's got to be a connection.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 19:45:19 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this, Tulltapes! It's interesting how many bands influenced each other in spirit and their way of doing things, though not in sound. Brian Rabey's book, "A Passion Play" links Tull to Beefheart and Zappa - three artists who sound nothing alike, but share a similar approach to their art. It's interesting, also, how many *fans* on here list Tull, Zappa, Beefheart, and Rush in the "Top Ten" favorite bands thread. There's got to be a connection. TJTB Member and sound engineer Chris Amson (who mixed Beefheart and Tull).. recently dicussed how much in fact Tull were influenced by Beefheart. "I did some great gigs with Captain Beefheart when they opened for Jethro Tull! I was wiring up the mics onstage etc. Scared me to death when he walked out on stage with that huge persona and that kimono-type cape with some sort of oriental dragon creature embroidered on the back! The Tull members were individually very influenced by the Beefheart band. Jeffrey HH started to dress like Rocket Morton and I know that Barriemore Barlow really connected with Art Tripp. It was a good connection. Listen to some of Tull's music a little later and you will hear some Beefheart influence in it, especially in the rhythms. For example, Taxi Grab from Too Old to Rock 'N' Roll."
I have a theroy that Tull were very much inspired by the great opening acts they toured with. Ian has admitted that touring with Yes in 1971 was the inspiration behind TAAB. Then in 1972 touring with Beefheart and Gentle Giant they next come up with Passion Play. Also Ian now playing the Soprano sax like Beefheart. I haven't explored this theroy much further but so far it makes sense.
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Post by Zombywoof on Jan 25, 2014 19:56:05 GMT -5
^ Excellent story. I love reading these kinds of things!
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Post by Michael Crowe on Jan 27, 2014 18:38:45 GMT -5
Oh Mothy dear, we're glad you're hear. To take away our pain ..
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Post by Mothfairy on Jan 28, 2014 12:16:57 GMT -5
It's better than adding to it, I guess!
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Post by Morthoron on Jan 28, 2014 14:09:49 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this, Tulltapes! It's interesting how many bands influenced each other in spirit and their way of doing things, though not in sound. Brian Rabey's book, "A Passion Play" links Tull to Beefheart and Zappa - three artists who sound nothing alike, but share a similar approach to their art. It's interesting, also, how many *fans* on here list Tull, Zappa, Beefheart, and Rush in the "Top Ten" favorite bands thread. There's got to be a connection. TJTB Member and sound engineer Chris Amson (who mixed Beefheart and Tull).. recently dicussed how much in fact Tull were influenced by Beefheart. "I did some great gigs with Captain Beefheart when they opened for Jethro Tull! I was wiring up the mics onstage etc. Scared me to death when he walked out on stage with that huge persona and that kimono-type cape with some sort of oriental dragon creature embroidered on the back! The Tull members were individually very influenced by the Beefheart band. Jeffrey HH started to dress like Rocket Morton and I know that Barriemore Barlow really connected with Art Tripp. It was a good connection. Listen to some of Tull's music a little later and you will hear some Beefheart influence in it, especially in the rhythms. For example, Taxi Grab from Too Old to Rock 'N' Roll."
I have a theroy that Tull were very much inspired by the great opening acts they toured with. Ian has admitted that touring with Yes in 1971 was the inspiration behind TAAB. Then in 1972 touring with Beefheart and Gentle Giant they next come up with Passion Play. Also Ian now playing the Soprano sax like Beefheart. I haven't explored this theroy much further but so far it makes sense. I had heard that the soprano sax on A Passion Play was influenced by David Jackson of Van der Graaf Generator. Have you ever heard the album Pawn Hearts (from 1971)? Good Lord! The sax sounds nearly identical in its phrasing. The only problem with VdGG is you have to listen to Pete Hammill's god-awful caterwauling vocals. I'd own every VdGG album in the 70s if they remixed them as strictly instrumentals.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Jan 29, 2014 1:59:34 GMT -5
It's better than adding to it, I guess! LOL, bad day? That sounded sarcastic, hee hee. Man, it hasn't gotten above freezing here in three days. It's 4 degrees now as I write. How do you tolerate this sort of weather up there where mountain men are king, and the sound of the Mothfairy is everything? I'm suffering down here.
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Post by Mothfairy on Jan 29, 2014 11:49:34 GMT -5
It's better than adding to it, I guess! LOL, bad day? That sounded sarcastic, hee hee. Man, it hasn't gotten above freezing here in three days. It's 4 degrees now as I write. How do you tolerate this sort of weather up there where mountain men are king, and the sound of the Mothfairy is everything? I'm suffering down here. Nah, not a bad day...You sound just like TM, he thinks I've had a bad day when I'm just posting things to be a goober. Woo, yes, that is cold. The whole country seems to be backwards. It's warmer here in NH than it down where you are but warmer in Far Alaska where my brother is than it is here in NH. So it's definitely not a normal year. We definitely get our share of cold weather but it's usually not this ridiculous. I'm more used to weather in the 20's at least, which, I can totally tolerate. With the temps in the teens or single digits once in awhile, not all the time! One day last week it was about 4 degrees and I thought it would be good to take the kids out because I'm getting cabin fever but it's not so fun trying to run the children around out in the cold. I guess it's liking taking the bad with the good. I've always lived in RI which is also cold and snowy but here in NH it's more cold and snowy. Everyone says the trick to living here is finding a winter activity that you like to do. Skiing, snowboarding, snowshoeing, cross country, etc. I haven't done anything yet...so I'm starting to feel the boredom and aggravation of being indoors. The cold killed my van so I had to get a new one...yay, but expensive car payment. Basically you just wish for spring, and the cold continues, and you keep hanging on and hanging on and just when you think you can't take it anymore...it just keeps being cold...then a long time after that...spring comes. And you appreciate it. Then it gets hot and you wish for winter because we're so conditioned to the cold. Then winter comes...and the cycle continues. How do you guys deal? Do people in your area even already own winter gear and everything? At least we're (mostly) prepared for the cold.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Jan 30, 2014 2:28:38 GMT -5
LOL, bad day? That sounded sarcastic, hee hee. Man, it hasn't gotten above freezing here in three days. It's 4 degrees now as I write. How do you tolerate this sort of weather up there where mountain men are king, and the sound of the Mothfairy is everything? I'm suffering down here. Nah, not a bad day...You sound just like TM, he thinks I've had a bad day when I'm just posting things to be a goober. Woo, yes, that is cold. The whole country seems to be backwards. It's warmer here in NH than it down where you are but warmer in Far Alaska where my brother is than it is here in NH. So it's definitely not a normal year. We definitely get our share of cold weather but it's usually not this ridiculous. I'm more used to weather in the 20's at least, which, I can totally tolerate. With the temps in the teens or single digits once in awhile, not all the time! One day last week it was about 4 degrees and I thought it would be good to take the kids out because I'm getting cabin fever but it's not so fun trying to run the children around out in the cold. I guess it's liking taking the bad with the good. I've always lived in RI which is also cold and snowy but here in NH it's more cold and snowy. Everyone says the trick to living here is finding a winter activity that you like to do. Skiing, snowboarding, snowshoeing, cross country, etc. I haven't done anything yet...so I'm starting to feel the boredom and aggravation of being indoors. The cold killed my van so I had to get a new one...yay, but expensive car payment. Basically you just wish for spring, and the cold continues, and you keep hanging on and hanging on and just when you think you can't take it anymore...it just keeps being cold...then a long time after that...spring comes. And you appreciate it. Then it gets hot and you wish for winter because we're so conditioned to the cold. Then winter comes...and the cycle continues. How do you guys deal? Do people in your area even already own winter gear and everything? At least we're (mostly) prepared for the cold. How does one post to be a goober? I saw where it was 37 degrees in Fairbanks yesterday. A real hotspot. I can't imagine having your weather all the time, but then we have this year. We haven't had single digits in a couple years but now it's every night. We finally hit Zero last night. Thing is we recover down here usually. It's like 9 right now but suppose to be 41 today. But here lately we've had below freezing for days at a time, and these artic blast every two weeks. So we handle it because the cold mostly doesn't stay long at a time except for this year. Snow and ice is the dread here. Three inches of snow and everything goes to a crawl, and ice will just stop everything. The average snow line is like thirty miles north of here so we get these bloody hell ice storms that can knock your power out for days, and nothing moves, so we have a generator and a mountain of firewood and can goods always. So back in 98 or so we had one of those bloody hell ice strorms, like eleven inches, and you couldn't do anything, not even walk very far. So I go crazy with cabin fever and start going through the house digging into everything, and I find some acrylic craft paint and some canvas that my wife had laid up and just go nuts painting. So I paint for a year, and I'm selling paintings and prints and at years end I've made just over $3000 from art. It was crazy. I mean, I'm no Quizz Kid you know, but I had this nitch, and then I just stopped. haven't picked up a brush in years. Anyway it gets like Atlanta was yesterday. It snowed a few inches and Atlanta just locked up. Hope you had a good day then. I must have surmized in error.
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Post by Zombywoof on Jan 30, 2014 22:29:09 GMT -5
TJTB Member and sound engineer Chris Amson (who mixed Beefheart and Tull).. recently dicussed how much in fact Tull were influenced by Beefheart. "I did some great gigs with Captain Beefheart when they opened for Jethro Tull! I was wiring up the mics onstage etc. Scared me to death when he walked out on stage with that huge persona and that kimono-type cape with some sort of oriental dragon creature embroidered on the back! The Tull members were individually very influenced by the Beefheart band. Jeffrey HH started to dress like Rocket Morton and I know that Barriemore Barlow really connected with Art Tripp. It was a good connection. Listen to some of Tull's music a little later and you will hear some Beefheart influence in it, especially in the rhythms. For example, Taxi Grab from Too Old to Rock 'N' Roll."
I have a theroy that Tull were very much inspired by the great opening acts they toured with. Ian has admitted that touring with Yes in 1971 was the inspiration behind TAAB. Then in 1972 touring with Beefheart and Gentle Giant they next come up with Passion Play. Also Ian now playing the Soprano sax like Beefheart. I haven't explored this theroy much further but so far it makes sense. I had heard that the soprano sax on A Passion Play was influenced by David Jackson of Van der Graaf Generator. Have you ever heard the album Pawn Hearts (from 1971)? Good Lord! The sax sounds nearly identical in its phrasing. The only problem with VdGG is you have to listen to Pete Hammill's god-awful caterwauling vocals. I'd own every VdGG album in the 70s if they remixed them as strictly instrumentals. I did not know that, thanks for the tip! I'm a huge VdGG fan, by the way, I even met Peter once!
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Post by Mothfairy on Feb 3, 2014 23:05:21 GMT -5
Nah, not a bad day...You sound just like TM, he thinks I've had a bad day when I'm just posting things to be a goober. Woo, yes, that is cold. The whole country seems to be backwards. It's warmer here in NH than it down where you are but warmer in Far Alaska where my brother is than it is here in NH. So it's definitely not a normal year. We definitely get our share of cold weather but it's usually not this ridiculous. I'm more used to weather in the 20's at least, which, I can totally tolerate. With the temps in the teens or single digits once in awhile, not all the time! One day last week it was about 4 degrees and I thought it would be good to take the kids out because I'm getting cabin fever but it's not so fun trying to run the children around out in the cold. I guess it's liking taking the bad with the good. I've always lived in RI which is also cold and snowy but here in NH it's more cold and snowy. Everyone says the trick to living here is finding a winter activity that you like to do. Skiing, snowboarding, snowshoeing, cross country, etc. I haven't done anything yet...so I'm starting to feel the boredom and aggravation of being indoors. The cold killed my van so I had to get a new one...yay, but expensive car payment. Basically you just wish for spring, and the cold continues, and you keep hanging on and hanging on and just when you think you can't take it anymore...it just keeps being cold...then a long time after that...spring comes. And you appreciate it. Then it gets hot and you wish for winter because we're so conditioned to the cold. Then winter comes...and the cycle continues. How do you guys deal? Do people in your area even already own winter gear and everything? At least we're (mostly) prepared for the cold. How does one post to be a goober? I saw where it was 37 degrees in Fairbanks yesterday. A real hotspot. I can't imagine having your weather all the time, but then we have this year. We haven't had single digits in a couple years but now it's every night. We finally hit Zero last night. Thing is we recover down here usually. It's like 9 right now but suppose to be 41 today. But here lately we've had below freezing for days at a time, and these artic blast every two weeks. So we handle it because the cold mostly doesn't stay long at a time except for this year. Snow and ice is the dread here. Three inches of snow and everything goes to a crawl, and ice will just stop everything. The average snow line is like thirty miles north of here so we get these bloody hell ice storms that can knock your power out for days, and nothing moves, so we have a generator and a mountain of firewood and can goods always. So back in 98 or so we had one of those bloody hell ice strorms, like eleven inches, and you couldn't do anything, not even walk very far. So I go crazy with cabin fever and start going through the house digging into everything, and I find some acrylic craft paint and some canvas that my wife had laid up and just go nuts painting. So I paint for a year, and I'm selling paintings and prints and at years end I've made just over $3000 from art. It was crazy. I mean, I'm no Quizz Kid you know, but I had this nitch, and then I just stopped. haven't picked up a brush in years. Anyway it gets like Atlanta was yesterday. It snowed a few inches and Atlanta just locked up. Hope you had a good day then. I must have surmized in error. So it hit the 30's recently, wow! Time to hit the beach. Good for you for keeping busy during power outages! I usually throw a huge tantrum. Right now my biggest weather related gripe is the dirt they throw everywhere so you don't slip on the ice. It keeps finding its way into my house and vehicle, which is new, and ticking me off. Which I guess isn't a bad complain overall, considering. Speaking of, is winter over yet? I'm so done. Mike, should we should make that Moth and Mike thread now.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Feb 4, 2014 1:05:06 GMT -5
How does one post to be a goober? I saw where it was 37 degrees in Fairbanks yesterday. A real hotspot. I can't imagine having your weather all the time, but then we have this year. We haven't had single digits in a couple years but now it's every night. We finally hit Zero last night. Thing is we recover down here usually. It's like 9 right now but suppose to be 41 today. But here lately we've had below freezing for days at a time, and these artic blast every two weeks. So we handle it because the cold mostly doesn't stay long at a time except for this year. Snow and ice is the dread here. Three inches of snow and everything goes to a crawl, and ice will just stop everything. The average snow line is like thirty miles north of here so we get these bloody hell ice storms that can knock your power out for days, and nothing moves, so we have a generator and a mountain of firewood and can goods always. So back in 98 or so we had one of those bloody hell ice strorms, like eleven inches, and you couldn't do anything, not even walk very far. So I go crazy with cabin fever and start going through the house digging into everything, and I find some acrylic craft paint and some canvas that my wife had laid up and just go nuts painting. So I paint for a year, and I'm selling paintings and prints and at years end I've made just over $3000 from art. It was crazy. I mean, I'm no Quizz Kid you know, but I had this nitch, and then I just stopped. haven't picked up a brush in years. Anyway it gets like Atlanta was yesterday. It snowed a few inches and Atlanta just locked up. Hope you had a good day then. I must have surmized in error. So it hit the 30's recently, wow! Time to hit the beach. Good for you for keeping busy during power outages! I usually throw a huge tantrum. Right now my biggest weather related gripe is the dirt they throw everywhere so you don't slip on the ice. It keeps finding its way into my house and vehicle, which is new, and ticking me off. Which I guess isn't a bad complain overall, considering. Speaking of, is winter over yet? I'm so done. Mike, should we should make that Moth and Mike thread now. Yeah I guess winter would be the best time to start that M & M thread wouldn't it. Nothing else to do, with the short cold days and long cold nights, besides work. Wow, my last post looks like I was on caffine. Reads like one long silly sentence. Yes indeed, we're far enough north to have the salt trucks and I get ill at that too, but it's better than sliding. That stuff is nasty and you have to hose it off from under the cars or it will go to rust. An old rule of thumb here is to never buy a used car that comes from down on the gulf coast where it's been exposed to salt water spray. Same thing with the rust. No, winter isn't over yet. Looks like y'all are in for some more ice n snow. We usually get a break third week in February when the buttercups bloom and we get a teaser, but now it looks like another cold blast is coming in, and we had thurnderstorms last night with sleet. Weird stuff.
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Post by Mothfairy on Feb 4, 2014 12:16:39 GMT -5
Yes, we should make the thread...go ahead. haha
We have the salt and sand mixed to make this lovely mixture. I don't use salt in the driveway because of my dog. My other van was 10 years old and within the last month or so I had a flat tire and AAA came and when they jacked it up all pieces of my van were falling off the bottom, the guy said it was very rusted. Too many long hard winters. And the really bad cold snap killed something inside of it altogether, so I broke down and got a new one. I guess another snow storm possibly tomorrow. My husband is a plow guy so when it snows, he goes.
Oh, I never finished talking about the 'bad day' thing. So, I have this habit of having crazy dreams including Tull board people. One day I had one with TM and the next day he had said something to me online and I responded with, "That's sounds like what you said to me last night!" and I expected him to say, "What do you mean?" and I would proceed to tell him about the dream. Instead he responds with, "Bad day?" I was just kind of...huh? hahaha
So...I think it needs to be the M&M-Talk-About-Weather thread. What do you think? M&M's Stormwatch.
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Post by Michael Crowe on Feb 5, 2014 0:35:31 GMT -5
Yes, we should make the thread...go ahead. haha We have the salt and sand mixed to make this lovely mixture. I don't use salt in the driveway because of my dog. My other van was 10 years old and within the last month or so I had a flat tire and AAA came and when they jacked it up all pieces of my van were falling off the bottom, the guy said it was very rusted. Too many long hard winters. And the really bad cold snap killed something inside of it altogether, so I broke down and got a new one. I guess another snow storm possibly tomorrow. My husband is a plow guy so when it snows, he goes. Oh, I never finished talking about the 'bad day' thing. So, I have this habit of having crazy dreams including Tull board people. One day I had one with TM and the next day he had said something to me online and I responded with, "That's sounds like what you said to me last night!" and I expected him to say, "What do you mean?" and I would proceed to tell him about the dream. Instead he responds with, "Bad day?" I was just kind of...huh? hahaha So...I think it needs to be the M&M-Talk-About-Weather thread. What do you think? M&M's Stormwatch. Are you afraid your dog will rust? Winters really take a toll on vehicles up there huh. I thought so. You should have gotten a 4x4 this time Moth. I have a four wheel drive Ford Ranger pickup. Couldn't do without it in these parts. Seems fairies have weird dreams then. I don't usually dream, but when I do, it's about Dos Equis. ..... Stay thirsty my friend. But no, I have to take hay to bed with me to feed the nightmares. When I dream it gets serious. I haven't had any Tull or Tullboard people dreams yet. I had a dream once where I got into a gunfight with an angry turquoise woodpecker atop a fallout shelter though. My brothers suddenly appeared and they were wearing guns. So we draw our guns and gun down the bird. And then there was the reacuring dream where this fat jeanie named Yellow Pinky is chasing me around a huge coffee table with an Arabian sword and I have to fly to get away. I had that one for years. And those are the more normal ones. The lesser ones are like, I take the stage in front of twenty thousand people and my guitar won't tune up, or I'm in reverse doing 90 mph, or I'm being chased by a tornado. I was in a tornado once so I came by that one honestly. I digress .. M&M's Stormwatch? Does have a ring to it, but you'll have to start it. It was your idea, you are staff, and you have hundreds more post than me. So we go by rank here. Oh, get this, a coyote broke into my screened in back porch last night. I think it was after the cat, who lives out there most of the time. Completely destroyed the screen, but didn't get the cat. He made it up to the ceiling fan. Are you sure you want to live on a farm Mothy?
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Post by Mothfairy on Feb 5, 2014 0:55:39 GMT -5
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