Zombywoof
Ethnic Piano Accordian-ist
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Post by Zombywoof on Mar 12, 2014 13:21:57 GMT -5
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Post by Cecil the Sealion on Mar 12, 2014 14:45:35 GMT -5
I much prefer the quad version vocals
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Post by TM on Mar 12, 2014 15:21:13 GMT -5
Thanks Ian. That's pretty wild hearing Ian like that - complete with the grunts, chuckles, groans and foot tapping. |
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Post by Coolraven on Mar 12, 2014 17:16:45 GMT -5
That's fiercely interesting, where would you have got such a thing ?
And how could so vital a singing voice deteriorate so much is such a relatively short time ?
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Heathcliffe
Ethnic Piano Accordian-ist
The candyfloss salesman watches ladies in the sand..
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Post by Heathcliffe on Mar 12, 2014 17:19:24 GMT -5
Wow !!
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Post by Lucas on Mar 12, 2014 19:23:00 GMT -5
That is just amazing. Really interesting listen.
Have a look in that Youtube Channel, the guy seems to have made that to the whole Aqualung album including bonus tracks. The titles of some videos are mixed up though. Interesting to hear the acoustic pieces that also have the guitar or part of it, perhaps they were record in the same channel ou whetever.
But really interesting. Ian did not take good care with his voice really and his throath problems did not help.
There are also songs from lots of other bands. Really interesting.
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Post by Mothfairy on Mar 12, 2014 20:48:04 GMT -5
I picture him standing and preaching to a bunch of people, using...lots of emotion.
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Post by Biggles on Mar 12, 2014 21:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah, this is friggin' cool. Given the level of distortion I hear, I wonder if this was initially intended to be a scratch vocal that Ian decided to keep. Anyway, the studio savy listener knows what you hear as a 'band' in the background is actually coming from the playback through Ian's cans (headphones). Thanks for posting!
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 13, 2014 2:04:39 GMT -5
That's fiercely interesting, where would you have got such a thing ? And how could so vital a singing voice deteriorate so much is such a relatively short time ? It didn't happen over night. This was 1971 and the voice started to go around 85 or so I think it was. That's a lot of "Hey Aqualung" 's over the span of years. What I've always found interesting is how his voice evolved from the nasally first four albums to the slightly cleaner TAAB to his peak on APP and Warchild where his voice is clear, fanciful, and present. Then he went all throaty with HH then back to mid seventies form on Stormwatch. He also had great pitch and control through it all and the use of both vibrato and tremolo. Not bad for a baritone rock/blues/folk/jazz singer. I always thought the guy was underrated as a singer over the years. He always had the ability to sing most any melody no matter how complex, has near perfect timing, good phrasing, and even now at this stage of deterioration, to enterpret his lyrics in an honest and convincing manner. And all while performing rather than just playing the music, blowing the flute and managing a number of string instruments. Tough job, but somebody had to do it. |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 13, 2014 2:13:22 GMT -5
Yeah, this is friggin' cool. Given the level of distortion I hear, I wonder if this was initially intended to be a scratch vocal that Ian decided to keep. Anyway, the studio savy listener knows what you hear as a 'band' in the background is actually coming from the playback through Ian's cans (headphones). Thanks for posting! I don't know, that's a pretty strong performance for a scratch vocal. He's really going for it , especially on the first verse. Probably done in one or two takes. Yeah, that distortion is something isn't it. I just can't believe they got away with that. No wonder the production was so bad on that album. |
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Post by Biggles on Mar 13, 2014 20:28:37 GMT -5
Yeah, this is friggin' cool. Given the level of distortion I hear, I wonder if this was initially intended to be a scratch vocal that Ian decided to keep. Anyway, the studio savy listener knows what you hear as a 'band' in the background is actually coming from the playback through Ian's cans (headphones). Thanks for posting! I don't know, that's a pretty strong performance for a scratch vocal. He's really going for it , especially on the first verse. Probably done in one or two takes. Yeah, that distortion is something isn't it. I just can't believe they got away with that. No wonder the production was so bad on that album. Agreed, a very strong performance. But quickly (before TM sends this entire thread over to Maison Rouge) shhh! That's no Telefunken U47, sounds like a Shure SM57. Performance beats production everytime. |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 13, 2014 21:22:39 GMT -5
I don't know, that's a pretty strong performance for a scratch vocal. He's really going for it , especially on the first verse. Probably done in one or two takes. Yeah, that distortion is something isn't it. I just can't believe they got away with that. No wonder the production was so bad on that album. Agreed, a very strong performance. But quickly (before TM sends this entire thread over to Maison Rouge) shhh! That's no Telefunken U47, sounds like a Shure SM57. Performance beats production everytime. LOL. Right, don't think it's a U47 or any condenser. Probably an old broadcast dynamic like an EV Re-20 or RCA. I know Ian did prefer an SM 57 for live vocals in the old days. You could be right. You mentioned Martins LP earlier, I think the odd looking pickguard you mentioned is due to the fact it was a two pickup version. Mine was a single pup which was the most common. Would love to have Martin's vesion with a couple of humbuckers instead of the P90 single coils. |
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Post by TM on Mar 14, 2014 14:02:27 GMT -5
I don't know, that's a pretty strong performance for a scratch vocal. He's really going for it , especially on the first verse. Probably done in one or two takes. Yeah, that distortion is something isn't it. I just can't believe they got away with that. No wonder the production was so bad on that album. Agreed, a very strong performance. But quickly (before TM sends this entire thread over to Maison Rouge) shhh! That's no Telefunken U47, sounds like a Shure SM57. Performance beats production everytime. lol.  |
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Post by Coolraven on Mar 14, 2014 15:06:20 GMT -5
Thanks Michael that was a very good reply and right on the button.
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Post by Biggles on Mar 14, 2014 19:33:43 GMT -5
Agreed, a very strong performance. But quickly (before TM sends this entire thread over to Maison Rouge) shhh! That's no Telefunken U47, sounds like a Shure SM57. Performance beats production everytime. lol. LMAO ..BUSTED! Hey Michael, Maybe we should start an aquisition/transaction thread @ Maison Rouge, you know, celebrity or otherwise interesting stories about vintage equipment. buy and sell. Given your Lonesome Dave LP Jr. story, I'd like to hear more. Maybe some of our members have a tale or two. I've got at least one. |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 14, 2014 23:43:10 GMT -5
lol. LMAO ..BUSTED! Hey Michael, Maybe we should start an aquisition/transaction thread @ Maison Rouge, you know, celebrity or otherwise interesting stories about vintage equipment. buy and sell. Given your Lonesome Dave LP Jr. story, I'd like to hear more. Maybe some of our members have a tale or two. I've got at least one. That's a good idea, but everybody else will be bored to tears. Okay, I'm ready for your tale. My story is long and boring but with a weird twist, so the abridged version is that I traded that guitar for a van. The guitar was sold or consigned to George Gruhn's shop in Nashville, I think it was, where it was sold to Dave, which I didn't know at the time. So a few months later we're opening for Foghat and there's Dave with my old guitar. Weird stuff, I couldn't believe it, and I never told him. It had a nick on the upper bout, but the clincher was when I saw the case which was unmistakeable. Speaking of vintage equipment, I found a sm57 in the mud under a tire track outside our old reheasal hall back in 71 - it was the unidyne version I think was the word. It had a cracked housing and mud down in the screen. So I tape it up, clean it up, replace the jack and it still worked. Don't know how long that thing was there half buried. Anyway it's still in use. I miked my cabs with that thing for years. |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 15, 2014 0:04:56 GMT -5
Agreed, a very strong performance. But quickly (before TM sends this entire thread over to Maison Rouge) shhh! That's no Telefunken U47, sounds like a Shure SM57. Performance beats production everytime. lol. Haha, that's a classic. Post of the day for sure. |
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Post by Biggles on Mar 15, 2014 1:21:16 GMT -5
LMAO ..BUSTED! Hey Michael, Maybe we should start an aquisition/transaction thread @ Maison Rouge, you know, celebrity or otherwise interesting stories about vintage equipment. buy and sell. Given your Lonesome Dave LP Jr. story, I'd like to hear more. Maybe some of our members have a tale or two. I've got at least one. That's a good idea, but everybody else will be bored to tears. Okay, I'm ready for your tale. My story is long and boring but with a weird twist, so the abridged version is that I traded that guitar for a van. The guitar was sold or consigned to George Gruhn's shop in Nashville, I think it was, where it was sold to Dave, which I didn't know at the time. So a few months later we're opening for Foghat and there's Dave with my old guitar. Weird stuff, I couldn't believe it, and I never told him. It had a nick on the upper bout, but the clincher was when I saw the case which was unmistakeable. Speaking of vintage equipment, I found a sm57 in the mud under a tire track outside our old reheasal hall back in 71 - it was the unidyne version I think was the word. It had a cracked housing and mud down in the screen. So I tape it up, clean it up, replace the jack and it still worked. Don't know how long that thing was there half buried. Anyway it's still in use. I miked my cabs with that thing for years. Sorry TM, were highjacking this thread. Okay Mike it's July 21st, 1979, Day On The Green, Oakland Coliseum, CA. (Bill Grahams, "Monsters Of Rock" show) Ted Nugent headlining, Arrowshit and 3rd billing is AC/DC.  AC/DC pounded the shit out of everybody. Angus surfed the crowd playing his Gibson SG, returning to the stage only to ceremoniously smash his guitar and throw it into the audience. One of the all time greatest hard rock shows I ever saw. A couple of weeks later I'm at Guitar Showcase consignments and I see this busted up Gibson SG with a tag on it reading AC/DC Day On The Green $125.00, I asked the store owner about it and he says "yeah, the guy brought it in, says he got it at the show". So I bought it. I pulled the pups out, traced the numbers, vintage PAFs circa 1968. Installed one of them in my 1970's Epiphone Crestwood with fingers crossed... SWEEEET!!! ..I can't prove these pups belonged to Angus... but, I believe they did. |
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Post by Michael Crowe on Mar 15, 2014 22:54:28 GMT -5
That's a good idea, but everybody else will be bored to tears. Okay, I'm ready for your tale. My story is long and boring but with a weird twist, so the abridged version is that I traded that guitar for a van. The guitar was sold or consigned to George Gruhn's shop in Nashville, I think it was, where it was sold to Dave, which I didn't know at the time. So a few months later we're opening for Foghat and there's Dave with my old guitar. Weird stuff, I couldn't believe it, and I never told him. It had a nick on the upper bout, but the clincher was when I saw the case which was unmistakeable. Speaking of vintage equipment, I found a sm57 in the mud under a tire track outside our old reheasal hall back in 71 - it was the unidyne version I think was the word. It had a cracked housing and mud down in the screen. So I tape it up, clean it up, replace the jack and it still worked. Don't know how long that thing was there half buried. Anyway it's still in use. I miked my cabs with that thing for years. Sorry TM, were highjacking this thread. Okay Mike it's July 21st, 1979, Day On The Green, Oakland Coliseum, CA. (Bill Grahams, "Monsters Of Rock" show) Ted Nugent headlining, Arrowshit and 3rd billing is AC/DC. AC/DC pounded the shit out of everybody. Angus surfed the crowd playing his Gibson SG, returning to the stage only to ceremoniously smash his guitar and throw it into the audience. One of the all time greatest hard rock shows I ever saw. A couple of weeks later I'm at Guitar Showcase consignments and I see this busted up Gibson SG with a tag on it reading AC/DC Day On The Green $125.00, I asked the store owner about it and he says "yeah, the guy brought it in, says he got it at the show". So I bought it. I pulled the pups out, traced the numbers, vintage PAFs circa 1968. Installed one of them in my 1970's Epiphone Crestwood with fingers crossed... SWEEEET!!! ..I can't prove these pups belonged to Angus... but, I believe they did. Nice tale, you win! Okay, I once owned a Fender bass, a 63 Precision, that belonged to Billy Cox of Hendrix Band Of Gypsies fame. He was playing with Charlie Daniels at the time I got it. A friend bought it off him back stage at a local CDB concert and brought it next day to the studio. I paid $150 for it. |
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 15, 2014 23:40:05 GMT -5
Agreed, a very strong performance. But quickly (before TM sends this entire thread over to Maison Rouge) shhh! That's no Telefunken U47, sounds like a Shure SM57. Performance beats production everytime. lol. That's very funny. Vintage Paul! Jeff |
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AC/DC pounded the shit out of everybody. Angus surfed the crowd playing his Gibson SG, returning to the stage only to ceremoniously smash his guitar and throw it into the audience. One of the all time greatest hard rock shows I ever saw. A couple of weeks later I'm at Guitar Showcase consignments and I see this busted up Gibson SG with a tag on it reading AC/DC Day On The Green $125.00, I asked the store owner about it and he says "yeah, the guy brought it in, says he got it at the show". So I bought it. I pulled the pups out, traced the numbers, vintage PAFs circa 1968. Installed one of them in my 1970's Epiphone Crestwood with fingers crossed... SWEEEET!!! ..I can't prove these pups belonged to Angus... but, I believe they did. 