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Post by Tommiebaby on Mar 8, 2010 17:33:28 GMT -5
you're a masochist as I must be. The great Col ("mind ur p's and q's, boys & girls") had the fuckin stupidability to post 4 videos from last nite's gig. Folks, u gotta watch. No exaggeration, serously: On about every other line, Ian opens his mourh & NOTHING comes out. It is so pathetic. And he hardly moves at all; even his playing is so stilted. I know I beat a dead horse, but this was the absolute WORST, and it was just last nite!
Only saving grace: The 4 songs were 4 that I've never heard live before: Aqualung, Locomotic=ve Breath, Songs From Something and Too Old To...something or other.
What a fuckin pathetic joke the man is....it would be sad it he weren't still a healthy man. Maybe he SHOULD HAVE done drugd and NOT quit smoking 25 yrs. ago Sheeeeeeesh!
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Post by Tommiebaby on Mar 8, 2010 17:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by TM on Mar 8, 2010 18:08:13 GMT -5
If I know without a shadow of a doubt that Ian can no longer sing TOTR&R and SFTW, why doesn't he? And why the man would want to embarrass himself is beyond me.
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 8, 2010 23:40:38 GMT -5
you're a masochist as I must be. The great Col ("mind ur p's and q's, boys & girls") had the fuckin stupidability to post 4 videos from last nite's gig. Folks, u gotta watch. No exaggeration, serously: On about every other line, Ian opens his mourh & NOTHING comes out. It is so pathetic. And he hardly moves at all; even his playing is so stilted. I know I beat a dead horse, but this was the absolute WORST, and it was just last nite! Only saving grace: The 4 songs were 4 that I've never heard live before: Aqualung, Locomotic=ve Breath, Songs From Something and Too Old To...something or other. What a fuckin pathetic joke the man is....it would be sad it he weren't still a healthy man. Maybe he SHOULD HAVE done drugd and NOT quit smoking 25 yrs. ago Sheeeeeeesh! Listening to those videos made me ill.  Jeff |
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Post by Tommiebaby on Mar 9, 2010 0:21:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 3:54:18 GMT -5
you're a masochist as I must be. The great Col ("mind ur p's and q's, boys & girls") had the fuckin stupidability to post 4 videos from last nite's gig. Folks, u gotta watch. No exaggeration, serously: On about every other line, Ian opens his mourh & NOTHING comes out. It is so pathetic. And he hardly moves at all; even his playing is so stilted. I know I beat a dead horse, but this was the absolute WORST, and it was just last nite! Only saving grace: The 4 songs were 4 that I've never heard live before: Aqualung, Locomotic=ve Breath, Songs From Something and Too Old To...something or other. What a fuckin pathetic joke the man is....it would be sad it he weren't still a healthy man. Maybe he SHOULD HAVE done drugd and NOT quit smoking 25 yrs. ago Sheeeeeeesh! Listening to those videos made me ill. Jeff Seems if you're disenchanted you are "a slightly jaded regular fan" and if your fed up we're advised that we "should take a break for a year". Patronising or what? How much more of the "Kings New clothes" can anyone take? Why can't these people admit that his voice is shot, it occasionally improves on a song by song basis, but then he chooses something he cannot sing anymore. Generally he needs to recraft his whole repertoire. It doesn't make you any less a fan to open your eyes and ears and admit that what some of us have been saying for years is true. |
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Post by TM on Mar 9, 2010 10:02:23 GMT -5
Listening to those videos made me ill. Jeff Seems if you're disenchanted you are "a slightly jaded regular fan" and if your fed up we're advised that we "should take a break for a year". Patronising or what? How much more of the "Kings New clothes" can anyone take? Why can't these people admit that his voice is shot, it occasionally improves on a song by song basis, but then he chooses something he cannot sing anymore. Generally he needs to recraft his whole repertoire. It doesn't make you any less a fan to open your eyes and ears and admit that what some of us have been saying for years is true. That is it in a nutshell. Time to stop pretending he's capable of of a best of Jethro Tull show because clearly he is not. |
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Post by Tullite on Mar 10, 2010 17:11:54 GMT -5
quizz as always your soooo rite , i agree and think livin in the past with the past has come back as a livin prophesy cus that is exactly what ian is doin , and its doin more harm than good for his true capabilities , but as always i will go watch em a true endeavering fan wishing for it to come good but as time marches on nothin is changeing but i have to be there just in case !!
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Post by Tullite on Mar 10, 2010 17:13:50 GMT -5
and i still cant wait for the manchester show .
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Post by Nonfatman on Mar 10, 2010 22:52:04 GMT -5
quizz as always your soooo rite , i agree and think livin in the past with the past has come back as a livin prophesy cus that is exactly what ian is doin , and its doin more harm than good for his true capabilities , but as always i will go watch em a true endeavering fan wishing for it to come good but as time marches on nothin is changeing but i have to be there just in case !! I know what you mean, Jim. There's always the hope of catching them on a good night, and let's not forget that the 40th anniversary shows were very, very good, and last year's solo shows pretty good as well. I guess that's what has kept me going to shows each time around, but this is really it. I am furious about his misrepresentation and false adverstising of what this tour would be like. I'll see the two shows I paid for in June, but that is it. The only thing that will bring me back is a new studio album tour....after a long break from touring for his voice to recover. Jeff |
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Post by LJG on Mar 10, 2010 23:06:25 GMT -5
Random observation.
Any bluegrass fans? Tony Rice is possibly the best bluegrass guitarist out there. He also used to have a fantastic voice... but due to an illness he lost it. Like completely.
He retooled his whole approach... and now his band is solely instrumental. And people still come, and he is still amazing.
Ian is one hell of a musician. We know he can still play. He could revamp Tull... he could still be relevant. Frustrating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 10:47:11 GMT -5
quizz as always your soooo rite , i agree and think livin in the past with the past has come back as a livin prophesy cus that is exactly what ian is doin , and its doin more harm than good for his true capabilities , but as always i will go watch em a true endeavering fan wishing for it to come good but as time marches on nothin is changeing but i have to be there just in case !! Tullite, Thanks for that I was beginning to think my judgement was completely skewed. Like you I'm a Tull fan, but there comes a time when you have to face facts; I can no longer play football the way I used to play, so as I aged I played less and less, finally giving up playing and I now get my "kicks" from watching it. I don't like it but its facing up to reality. Ian, doesn't seem to see the writing on the wall. He isn't a p**** for not seeing it, he's human, but I hope he sees it sooner rather than later. He doesn't need to call it a day touring if he doesn't want to, that's his call, I just won't be there to see the last gig. If he did realise the problem and face up to it he could shake it up a bit and maybe retain all those nerds devotees who will always go tot a gig, as well as rekindling the interest of people like me who are now so disillusioned with the current output and possibly firing up the legions of potential fans who gave up years ago. He is a fine songwirter and musician, but he maintains a unhealthy appreciation of what he can and can't achieve in a live setting nowadays. Maybe he ought to look at a few of his contemporaries who have managed to move into a couple of more diverse projects and claim a wider audience as well as extending their output. Not everyone's cup of tea but I'll cite Eric Clapton. Specific blues gigs, tributes to Robert johnson, Movie scores, playing with named musicians etc. There are many others who have followed similar paths and kept their fan base alive and interested. I'd put my hand in my pocket to see something genuinely different, maybe Ian and Martin together on stage just doing acoustic numbers, with a few guest singers to change the pace and give Ian's voice a break through the gig; a blues gig, playing some stuff that Ian was brought up on, more Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee stuff possibly; If you're going to do covers go the whole hog, do something like Peter Gabriel has done. Ian is a very creative man, he could put somehing together if he wanted. And as for his view that no-one buys music anymore, what a lame excuse and a load of b******s. The fact is, albums and downloaded music do sell in large volumes, especially if it is by the likes of Lady Gaga and have the funding of the companies like EMI etc to back it and promote it. I suspect that Ian won't spalsh out funding new Tull or solo work in case no-one buys it in volume because it is TULL and not because they aren't interested in music anymore. Maybe they simply aren't interested in dull music, rehashed music or poor covers of past hits. |
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Post by Mix on Mar 11, 2010 11:50:53 GMT -5
Well said Quizz!
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Post by Bogenbroom on Mar 11, 2010 12:22:36 GMT -5
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Post by TM on Mar 14, 2010 0:58:14 GMT -5
Random observation. Any bluegrass fans? Tony Rice is possibly the best bluegrass guitarist out there. He also used to have a fantastic voice... but due to an illness he lost it. Like completely. He retooled his whole approach... and now his band is solely instrumental. And people still come, and he is still amazing. Ian is one hell of a musician. We know he can still play. He could revamp Tull... he could still be relevant. Frustrating. Hi ljg, I'm not familiar with him but that's interesting, and something that may very well happen to Tull one day. Or so some who would think should, anyway. I'm not a blue grass fan by any stretch although I do know Tony Trishka personally, and he's pretty amazing. I've seen sheet music of his that simply blows the mind. Cheers. |
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