Ulla
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Mar 9, 2010 5:53:48 GMT -5
Post by Ulla on Mar 9, 2010 5:53:48 GMT -5
So don´t buy tickets. Ian will not change his attitude as long as he earns money. Let him play in empty halls and he might change his mind.
Since 1996 the shows are just low budget productions to squeeze the last penny out of our pockets without giving us what we could expect for our money.
And what is beyond me: They record every show and Ian listens to it every night and he hears every single bum note that the others play - but he does not hear his voice and that he can´t sing some of the songs anymore. Double minded? Split personality? $$$$€€€€?
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Mar 9, 2010 9:56:13 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 9:56:13 GMT -5
the old rocker.....is just that old and tired just like the this year tour looking to be. Ian recirculates the same songs over and over and throws you 1 or 2 songs and says we're going to playing such and such.......I feel for MARTIN he must be sick of the bullshit, I am sure Martin would like to have a little bit of a musical challenge. The tours are old and receding faster the Ian's hairline, If he is going to play the bullshit tour after tour, there are not going to be many tours left for them to play. They will be play in nightclubs, because they wont get more than a couple of hundred people to see them, poor >Martin and Doaane
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Mar 9, 2010 10:11:19 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 9, 2010 10:11:19 GMT -5
So don´t buy tickets. Ian will not change his attitude as long as he earns money. Let him play in empty halls and he might change his mind. Since 1996 the shows are just low budget productions to squeeze the last penny out of our pockets without giving us what we could expect for our money. And what is beyond me: They record every show and Ian listens to it every night and he hears every single bum note that the others play - but he does not hear his voice and that he can´t sing some of the songs anymore. Double minded? Split personality? $$$$€€€€? Right. I remember reading about some posters who were discussing his vocal problems years ago and Ian actually defended himself by stating that after listening to the tapes he was on key. Well.....with all due respect Ian, you might actually be in key, but it really doesn't matter at this stage because your voice sounds bloody awful. Sorry.
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Mar 9, 2010 10:15:08 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 9, 2010 10:15:08 GMT -5
the old rocker.....is just that old and tired just like the this year tour looking to be. Ian recirculates the same songs over and over and throws you 1 or 2 songs and says we're going to playing such and such.......I feel for MARTIN he must be sick of the bullshit, I am sure Martin would like to have a little bit of a musical challenge. The tours are old and receding faster the Ian's hairline, If he is going to play the bullshit tour after tour, there are not going to be many tours left for them to play. They will be play in nightclubs, because they wont get more than a couple of hundred people to see them, poor >Martin and Doaane I used to feel the same about Martin, Doane and the band member. Poor guys having to put up with this. Well fact is they don't. They obviously prefer to ride the IA gravy train.
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Mar 9, 2010 13:24:47 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 13:24:47 GMT -5
Ulla, I agree, as I said though, based on promises of something different, I did buy tickets. Although it's a rather worthless and pointless exercise, as my money is already in Ian's bank account, I aim to vote with my feet and not attend the gig that I have tickets for. And, unless something radical happens as regards Ian's attitude to the paying punters and the quality of the show he delivers, I really don't think I'll be going again. It's a shame as I love my fix of Tull, but I can't quite bring myself to put on the patented Jethro Tull rose-tinted spectacles for their live shows anymore. So, looks like I'll be joining the legions of fans who have "deserted" the band over the years.
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Mar 9, 2010 19:06:03 GMT -5
Post by Tommiebaby on Mar 9, 2010 19:06:03 GMT -5
What the hell happened to ASH, who started this thread? He was so excited that he was gonna see Tull on March 6th. Then, in a later post, said "Will DO!" when asked by others to give feedback about the show. It's 4 days later. His silence speaks volumes. That bad, huh?
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Marcie
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Mar 10, 2010 2:29:44 GMT -5
Post by Marcie on Mar 10, 2010 2:29:44 GMT -5
Let's take a look at Ian's comments about this tour vs the setlist. Ian says about this tour “Of all the music recorded by Jethro Tull over the years, there are several songs which have rarely, if ever, been performed in public. We look forward to introducing some of this material to the setlist in 2010 along with some of the tried and trusty favourites. Martin Barre and I, along with long-standing drummer Doane Perry and old friends David Goodier and John O'Hara will bring variety and depth to the concerts with the aid of a few forgotten musical instruments currently being dug out of the rusty skip and dusted down for action. (I know I put that Sousaphone somewhere safe....)
“People can expect to see a little bit of whatever it is people think is Jethro Tull. Over the years we’ve had a few pop things, some more hard rock, folk rock, classical, jazz – it’s really my job to make sure the set list is 80 per cent different to the last time we came to town, with a reasonable cross section of musical styles and some ‘deep catalogue’ obscure things for the dedicated, educated fan."
1. Dun Ringill 2. The Water Carrier 3. Life Is a Long Song 4. Eurology Not quite the rousing start you might expect for a Jethro Tull concert with Ian coming off the more mellow acoustic tour. And sorry, if this is in fact a Jethro Tull concert, why are two out of the first 4 opening numbers solo tracks? 5. Nothing is Easy 6. A New Day Yesterday Okay, these songs I can handle. Their great tunes, and even though we've heard them repeatedly over the years at least he usually can sing them fairly well. 7. Songs from the Wood This is just a disaster waiting to happen. I cannot believe Ian would try to pull this off. He hasn't been able to sing this for at least a decade. 8. Fat Man As if the Water Carrier wasn't enough... 9. Bouree Please... 10. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll Another track he should never try to sing again. 11. Birthday Card at Christmas This must be one of those rare tracks Ian was referring to. I have no problem with the song per se but I do have a problem with Christmas songs in March. 12. A Change of Horses I'll give him this one. 13. Bug Nice of him to give Martin his 5 minutes... 14. Budapest 15. Aqualung 16. Encore: 16. Locomotive Breath Of course these must be the tried and trusty favorites that no core fan wants to hear any longer. So of course the question remains what happened to those several songs that have rarely been played in public? And where are those forgotten instruments he referred to? And finally, what about those deeper cuts Ian has in store for us core fans? This absolutely sucks. But this is and has been Jethro Tull for quite some time. The big question is, will we give Jethro Tull the opportunity to "suck us in" yet again down the road? I personally wouldn't mind hearing the same setlists (with slight variations), if only they could be performed/sung properly. This performance of SFTW was done recently in St. Albans (UK). If you listen carefully (if you can stand it actually), you'll notice that IA sings the verses a 1/2 tone lower than the instrumental part in the middle! He obviously thought that would help with his voice. Big mistake. Tull are making two appearances in Israel this August. We're not going. I saw them for the first time in 1977 on Long Island, NY. I then saw them again in 2000 in Tel Aviv and had the shock of my life when he couldn't even nail the glorious trademark Thick As a Brick refrain. Then again in 2007 when I had no expectations about his voice, in 2008 when Paul appeared with them, and finally at the Italian Convention later that year. Enough. I've been a huge fan since 1972 and subsequently bought all their records from "This Was" till "A" (and a few subsequent releases after that). One of the main things that got me when I first heard this band was Ian's glorious vocals. It breaks my heart that he can't sing any more, and I wish he would just stop. While this music will always be a core part of me and I will always love it..I will no longer feed the IA money machine. Rant over...
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Mar 10, 2010 7:58:41 GMT -5
Post by tootull on Mar 10, 2010 7:58:41 GMT -5
www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=5271238&postcount=708Jethro Tull at the Hexagon By Linda Fort March 10, 2010 Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull fame is afraid of flying – and seems to take an obsessive interest in air crashes and their causes. He can wax lyrical on the misery of short haul flights in South America and Eastern Europe, air turbulence and the kind of passengers who cheer whenever something goes bump in the air. For this reason, while he is looking forward to the musical experience of a forthcoming trip to Tiblisi in Georgia, he will find getting there a nightmare. In fact, he has pretty much given up satisfying the demands of Jethro Tull fans in South America simply because of the horror of short haul flying in that area. He said: “I fly so often that it is getting to the point where, statistically, I am almost bound to be in a crash one day.” He wrote a song in 1975 called Too Old to Rock ‘n’ Roll, Too Young to Die which was inspired by a plane journey. On other subjects, the singer and musician is more cheerful and a trip to The Hexagon in Reading on Friday holds no particular travel horrors. He said: “The great thing about concerts is to try out new material on audiences. I always like to play two or three new numbers.” He explained concerts generally consist of several new songs, the band’s chart hits – Living in the Past, Sweet Dreams and Witch’s Promise – and the songs which satisfy the Jethro Tull “nerds”. “They’re often quite obscure numbers that might be 30 years old which we haven’t played for years,” he explains. The band is generally described as “folk rock”, but Anderson – who plays flute, whistle, guitar and mandolin – is steeped in the acoustic tradition. He said: “Despite the rock appendage I have always played acoustic music and that is where my interests lie.” Anderson lives on a farm in south west England. There, he has a recording studio and pursues his hobbies which includes conserving 25 species of small wildcat and collecting clockwork watches and vintage Leica cameras. He remains committed to playing live music although he believes he could almost have come to the end of the line for recording albums. He said: “Albums are just no longer commercially viable. People don’t buy albums. In fact they don’t really listen to music any more in the way they used to. They use it as a backdrop – a way to shut out the world when they are driving or sitting on the train.
“They use is as a cloak to disguise, a cloak to protect them from what they find unendurable around them.”Still with around 30 albums behind them, a Grammy and sales totalling 60 million, Jethro Tull has done pretty well when music fans were still “living in the past.” Jethro Tull will also appear at the Wycombe Swan on Sunday. For details, call 01494 512000.
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Mar 10, 2010 14:11:39 GMT -5
Post by ash on Mar 10, 2010 14:11:39 GMT -5
Very sorry guys for not posting about the concert The last few days have been busy and pretty s**t too! Concert set was as above and an excellent night I have no problem with Ian doing a few solo tacks myself. The water Carrier and Eurology are two I very much like. Nothing is Easy and A New Day Yesterday were IMO two of the best performed numbers of the evening with Ian moving around the stage a lot with energy. As said Song form the Wood is not really one Ian can sing well any more . Fatman is one of my favourites of all time and more so live. So for me they could have played it twice Bouree is a must for me ......playing the flute myself. Too Old to Rock 'n' roll I agree Ian should leave out. A Change of Horses...Nice one. Budapest started off bad with Ian losing sound from his guitar at the start. It was not a quick fix and Ian went from getting a bit angry to shouting "I want to go home" LOL and then just joking about it. This is one my top 5 of best ever Tull tracks so love it. The rest Aqualung and Locomotive Breath it has to be said that if Tull did not do these people would whinge; so I say dammed if they and dammed if they didn't! So for me apart for two numbers it was a bloody good night out
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Mar 10, 2010 14:15:20 GMT -5
Post by ash on Mar 10, 2010 14:15:20 GMT -5
What the hell happened to ASH, who started this thread? He was so excited that he was gonna see Tull on March 6th. Then, in a later post, said "Will DO!" when asked by others to give feedback about the show. It's 4 days later. His silence speaks volumes. That bad, huh? Sorry life doesn't always go to plan As above
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Mar 10, 2010 16:15:52 GMT -5
Post by Nonfatman on Mar 10, 2010 16:15:52 GMT -5
Ash, I am glad you enjoyed the show. Sometimes youtube vids can be misleading as to sound, etc., but Ian did sound pretty god-awful in the five or six I saw from Albans Arena. Plus, the band seemed so muted, no real fire or attack, at least that was my impression from watching the vids.
You have to admit though that the setlist was not what it was adverstised to be. Ian promised a lot stuff never played or rarely played, and aside from Birthday Card at Christmas (out of place at a March concert, and played at various Xmas Tull shows) there was nothing like that at all. 95% was same old, same old.
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Mar 10, 2010 16:29:53 GMT -5
Post by Tommiebaby on Mar 10, 2010 16:29:53 GMT -5
Ash, sorry I asked: "It was a bloody good night out" --u dont get out much, huh?
" I widh they'd played 'Fatman' twice"- okaaaaaaaaay. Water Carrier PLUS 'Fatman' twice. Says it all.
See u around. Oh, you might want to know that Michael Bolton and Englebert are playing next week . Enjoy. Jeeeeesh! Where do we get these people?!
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Mar 10, 2010 16:39:59 GMT -5
Post by ash on Mar 10, 2010 16:39:59 GMT -5
Ash, I am glad you enjoyed the show. Sometimes youtube vids can be misleading as to sound, etc., but Ian did sound pretty god-awful in the five or six I saw from Albans Arena. Plus, the band seemed so muted, no real fire or attack, at least that was my impression from watching the vids. You have to admit though that the setlist was not what it was adverstised to be. Ian promised a lot stuff never played or rarely played, and aside from Birthday Card at Christmas (out of place at a March concert, and played at various Xmas Tull shows) there was nothing like that at all. 95% was same old, same old. Jeff It didn't sound muted to me but the Oxford New theatre is a small place and the sound is good there and Ian was moving around the stage a lot more than I've seen for sometime.. The trouble with YouTube it's mostly done on Mobile phones which TBH are rubbish with loads of other sounds in the background; a bit like a pirate dvd Agreed a lot was same old stuff but I had a good time and I didn't hear the bit from Ian about rare or unplayed stuff. May be a change of mind for some reason
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Mar 10, 2010 18:10:42 GMT -5
Post by Tommiebaby on Mar 10, 2010 18:10:42 GMT -5
It's not just You Tube. If you've seen him live in the last few yer=ars, you'd know that's his actual non-voice.
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Mar 11, 2010 3:55:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 3:55:14 GMT -5
Ash, I am glad you enjoyed the show. Sometimes youtube vids can be misleading as to sound, etc., but Ian did sound pretty god-awful in the five or six I saw from Albans Arena. Plus, the band seemed so muted, no real fire or attack, at least that was my impression from watching the vids. You have to admit though that the setlist was not what it was adverstised to be. Ian promised a lot stuff never played or rarely played, and aside from Birthday Card at Christmas (out of place at a March concert, and played at various Xmas Tull shows) there was nothing like that at all. 95% was same old, same old. Jeff Hi Jeff, I must admit that I only listened to the stuff via i-phone so far and found it truly awful, but I was wondering though, before we start to make excuses and defending Ian too much ;D was it just Ian's vocals that sounded bad or was the sound quality poor for all? It seems a few people have said Martin's guitar playing and the music generally sounded Ok, if so, then it's not a recording problem with mobile phones, camcorders or HD cameras.
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Mar 11, 2010 8:27:58 GMT -5
Post by Nonfatman on Mar 11, 2010 8:27:58 GMT -5
Believe me, Pat, I am in no mood to defend IA right now, but Ash enjoyed it and I am glad he did. That's really what is important, whether someone enjoys the show.
I saw the last two tours and his voice was much better than on the current videos, but I suppose I have heard him sing even worse, as I have seen so many shows where his voice has sounded like absolute shit. And it's not just the sound quality of the video, because the band sounded fine, although I have to say that I really did not like the arrangements. They seem to have been stripped down so much as to take the teeth out of the music. A guy named Dr. Flang on tootull's Hoffman Tull appreciation described it as "prog muzak" which I thought was a good description. It really does sound like muzak. There is no fire in it.
What really is pissing me off the most are the recent conflcting and disingenuous interviews Ian has given, sometimes suggesting there is a new album being worked on, sometimes suggesting the opposite, saying in one interview how he hates autographs seekers, derisively laughing that they should "get a life," and then in a subsequent interview, saying he "doesn't mind" autographing things. Damage control, I guess.
And then there was his gratuitious swipe at Martin's participation in Excalibur and, worst of all, his blatant misrepresentation of this year's tour, which, in my opinion, was outright false advertising designed to appeal to long-term fans like us, i.e., to get us to buy tickets.
As I stated in another post, and you may recall that he did the same thing for the Light and Dark tour. The programme heralded that "tonight's show will consist of songs from the following list" and then there were about fifty songs listed. So it suggested that they would do a different set each night, like The Dead. But that is not at all what happened. They played the same exact show night after night.
Jeff
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Mar 11, 2010 8:40:43 GMT -5
Post by Tullist on Mar 11, 2010 8:40:43 GMT -5
Ash, sorry I asked: "It was a bloody good night out" --u dont get out much, huh? " I widh they'd played 'Fatman' twice"- okaaaaaaaaay. Water Carrier PLUS 'Fatman' twice. Says it all. See u around. Oh, you might want to know that Michael Bolton and Englebert are playing next week . Enjoy. Jeeeeesh! Where do we get these people?! Pal, you have got to be the rudest person I have ever encountered in Tull land, though there would be challengers. Trust me, coming from Chicago, and after years of dealing with New Yawk in the options markets neither your Bronx or Manhattan pedigree impress me a bit. Amazing how polite alot of you jamokes become once dealing with us face to face. But feel free to run your rancid mouth from a keyboard back at me, I realize it is an area of expertise for you. Plus having perused the live performance lists of several on this board I would take that smug attitude and jam it up your expansive arse. Wow prog bands and maybe an Eddie Money chaser, those lists are an embarrassment, decidedly less than esoteric, by all means humble yourself at your own peril. You and your friends are a shining example of why most of the rest of the world holds us, Americans that is, in contempt.
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Mar 11, 2010 10:15:25 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2010 10:15:25 GMT -5
Believe me, Pat, I am in no mood to defend IA right now, but Ash enjoyed it and I am glad he did. That's really what is important, whether someone enjoys the show. I saw the last two tours and his voice was much better than on the current videos, but I suppose I have heard him sing even worse, as I have seen so many shows where his voice has sounded like absolute shit. And it's not just the sound quality of the video, because the band sounded fine, although I have to say that I really did not like the arrangements. They seem to have been stripped down so much as to take the teeth out of the music. A guy named Dr. Flang on tootull's Hoffman Tull appreciation described it as "prog muzak" which I thought was a good description. It really does sound like muzak. There is no fire in it. What really is pissing me off the most are the recent conflcting and disingenuous interviews Ian has given, sometimes suggesting there is a new album being worked on, sometimes suggesting the opposite, saying in one interview how he hates autographs seekers, derisively laughing that they should "get a life," and then in a subsequent interview, saying he "doesn't mind" autographing things. Damage control, I guess. And then there was his gratuitious swipe at Martin's participation in Excalibur and, worst of all, his blatant misrepresentation of this year's tour, which, in my opinion, was outright false advertising designed to appeal to long-term fans like us, i.e., to get us to buy tickets. As I stated in another post, and you may recall that he did the same thing for the Light and Dark tour. The programme heralded that "tonight's show will consist of songs from the following list" and then there were about fifty songs listed. So it suggested that they would do a different set each night, like The Dead. But that is not at all what happened. They played the same exact show night after night. Jeff I have to admit the misrepresentation of setlists at shows is a large part of my reasoning for dropping out of seeing live gigs now, Ian is not a good [self] publicist and in my opinion treats his nerds, sorry fans, with a little too much disdain at times. My apologies if it sounded like I was making you out to be an Ian apologist, I know that's not what you were implying in your post. The YouTube vids didn't look like mobile phone footage, they seemed to have too good a visual quality, I presumed that the poor vocals were not representative of the rest of the music in terms of clarity, although having watched one again I see what you mean about the arrangements.
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Mar 11, 2010 10:23:28 GMT -5
Post by tootull on Mar 11, 2010 10:23:28 GMT -5
www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=84119&page=36Sadly, Ian Anderson's singing voice has been of concern for too long now. Under Wraps - "I think it was a great album in terms of sound, in terms of actual song, particularly I was singing really well. The best I've ever sung was on that album. Sadly it was the singing of that material on tour in 1984 that actually caused the difficulties with my larynx. Whether it was the nature of the songs or just the intensity of it I don't know, but it was a shame." - Ian Anderson 1993 a calm Canadian LOL
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Mar 11, 2010 11:05:02 GMT -5
Post by Nonfatman on Mar 11, 2010 11:05:02 GMT -5
Believe me, Pat, I am in no mood to defend IA right now, but Ash enjoyed it and I am glad he did. That's really what is important, whether someone enjoys the show. I saw the last two tours and his voice was much better than on the current videos, but I suppose I have heard him sing even worse, as I have seen so many shows where his voice has sounded like absolute shit. And it's not just the sound quality of the video, because the band sounded fine, although I have to say that I really did not like the arrangements. They seem to have been stripped down so much as to take the teeth out of the music. A guy named Dr. Flang on tootull's Hoffman Tull appreciation described it as "prog muzak" which I thought was a good description. It really does sound like muzak. There is no fire in it. What really is pissing me off the most are the recent conflcting and disingenuous interviews Ian has given, sometimes suggesting there is a new album being worked on, sometimes suggesting the opposite, saying in one interview how he hates autographs seekers, derisively laughing that they should "get a life," and then in a subsequent interview, saying he "doesn't mind" autographing things. Damage control, I guess. And then there was his gratuitious swipe at Martin's participation in Excalibur and, worst of all, his blatant misrepresentation of this year's tour, which, in my opinion, was outright false advertising designed to appeal to long-term fans like us, i.e., to get us to buy tickets. As I stated in another post, and you may recall that he did the same thing for the Light and Dark tour. The programme heralded that "tonight's show will consist of songs from the following list" and then there were about fifty songs listed. So it suggested that they would do a different set each night, like The Dead. But that is not at all what happened. They played the same exact show night after night. Jeff I have to admit the misrepresentation of setlists at shows is a large part of my reasoning for dropping out of seeing live gigs now, Ian is not a good [self] publicist and in my opinion treats his nerds, sorry fans, with a little too much disdain at times. My apologies if it sounded like I was making you out to be an Ian apologist, I know that's not what you were implying in your post. The YouTube vids didn't look like mobile phone footage, they seemed to have too good a visual quality, I presumed that the poor vocals were not representative of the rest of the music in terms of clarity, although having watched one again I see what you mean about the arrangements. No need to apologize whatsoever, Pat, it is I who should apologize to you for suggesting that you were suggesting I was an Ian apologist. I know that's not the case! I was just happy that Ash enjoyed the show. I think what gets me is not so much the poor singing by itself....we've all been aware of that for some time, although it really does sound possibly worse now than ever, certainly a lot worse than the 40th anniversary show and the IA shows a few months ago. But when you combine the dreadful vocals with the misrepresentation aspect, i.e., of him having the nerve to say that this was really going to be something different, deep catalogue songs with unusual instruments being dusted off, and then trotting out the same old stuff with that same old croaking voice.....that's what is really pissing me off. That, combined with the constant conflicting statements concerning whether a new album is, or is not, in the works, together with his slap at Martin's involvement with Excalibur and his derisive comments and laughing at fans who seek his autograph. "Get a life" as he said. That really, really angered me. If he had really revamped the setlist to include a lot of rare, deep catalogue stuff, as he suggested he would, and if he would also have included more than one new song, then I could much more easily have forgiven his pathetic vocals. That would at least show that he is trying, that he still cares. Jeff
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Mar 11, 2010 11:25:43 GMT -5
Post by Nonfatman on Mar 11, 2010 11:25:43 GMT -5
Here's one example of what the 2010 set list could have looked like had Ian kept his word of deep catalogue songs plus 2 or 3 new numbers plus tried and trusty stuff, and I am taking into account that he feels the need always to include certain songs and three or so instrumentals.
Mouse Police Never Sleeps (acoustic, singable, good opening) To Cry You a Song (definitely singable and not hard to learn) One for John Gee (maybe a new instrumental for a change) Look into the Sun (singable) A Change of Horses (new song nobody's tired of yet) A New Day Yesterday (can still sing this one) Bouree (most fans expect this) Mountain Men (singable, especially the opening part) Moths (acoustic and singable) Dharma for One (not much to sing, with instrumental solos) Tea with the Princess (new song nobody's tired of yet) Slow Marching Band (acoustic, and I think Ian can sing it) Any Martin piece from Stage Left (it's all good) Aqualung (Ian won't exclude this) Locomotive Breath (Ian won't exclude this either) And Further On (great way to end show)
Jeff
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Mar 11, 2010 12:54:14 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 11, 2010 12:54:14 GMT -5
Here's one example of what the 2010 set list could have looked like had Ian kept his word of deep catalogue songs plus 2 or 3 new numbers plus tried and trusty stuff, and I am taking into account that he feels the need always to include certain songs and three or so instrumentals. Mouse Police Never Sleeps (acoustic, singable, good opening) To Cry You a Song (definitely singable and not hard to learn) One for John Gee (maybe a new instrumental for a change) Look into the Sun (singable) A Change of Horses (new song nobody's tired of yet) A New Day Yesterday (can still sing this one) Bouree (most fans expect this) Mountain Men (singable, especially the opening part) Moths (acoustic and singable) Dharma for One (not much to sing, with instrumental solos) Tea with the Princess (new song nobody's tired of yet) Slow Marching Band (acoustic, and I think Ian can sing it) Any Martin piece from Stage Left (it's all good) Aqualung (Ian won't exclude this) Locomotive Breath (Ian won't exclude this either) And Further On (great way to end show) Jeff That would be something!
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Mar 11, 2010 14:41:58 GMT -5
Post by ash on Mar 11, 2010 14:41:58 GMT -5
Ash, sorry I asked: "It was a bloody good night out" --u dont get out much, huh? " I widh they'd played 'Fatman' twice"- okaaaaaaaaay. Water Carrier PLUS 'Fatman' twice. Says it all. See u around. Oh, you might want to know that Michael Bolton and Englebert are playing next week . Enjoy. Jeeeeesh! Where do we get these people?! Well it seems your the type of person who doesn't believe other people have the right to an opinion "Where do we get these people" Well I joined because I was invited by NonFatman. "Fatman" that's a bit ironic ;D If you don't like does tracks that's fine by me! I happily admit to liking Ian's acoustic work and flute tracks more than any other work;, properly because I play flute because of Ian.
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Mar 11, 2010 15:12:07 GMT -5
Post by TM on Mar 11, 2010 15:12:07 GMT -5
Ash, sorry I asked: "It was a bloody good night out" --u dont get out much, huh? " I widh they'd played 'Fatman' twice"- okaaaaaaaaay. Water Carrier PLUS 'Fatman' twice. Says it all. See u around. Oh, you might want to know that Michael Bolton and Englebert are playing next week . Enjoy. Jeeeeesh! Where do we get these people?! Well it seems your the type of person who doesn't believe other people have the right to an opinion "Where do we get these people" Well I joined because I was invited by NonFatman. "Fatman" that's a bit ironic ;D If you don't like does tracks that's fine by me! I happily admit to liking Ian's acoustic work and flute tracks more than any other work;, properly because I play flute because of Ian. Hi Ash, Thanks for the review and glad you had a good time. I have to admit to feeling pretty disappointed when I saw the set-list too. Too many songs don't belong in there IMO. The Water Carrier and Fat Man are way too similar. The only way to pull that off to my mind is to combine them - similar to the what they did with Fire at Midnight and Weathercock years ago. Now that would have been cool. Showing a little creativity. Start off with the Water Carrier - go into the solo - and then back out playing Fatman. Note to Ian: I'm available for consultation!
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Mar 11, 2010 15:29:37 GMT -5
Post by Nonfatman on Mar 11, 2010 15:29:37 GMT -5
Ash, sorry I asked: "It was a bloody good night out" --u dont get out much, huh? " I widh they'd played 'Fatman' twice"- okaaaaaaaaay. Water Carrier PLUS 'Fatman' twice. Says it all. See u around. Oh, you might want to know that Michael Bolton and Englebert are playing next week . Enjoy. Jeeeeesh! Where do we get these people?! Well it seems your the type of person who doesn't believe other people have the right to an opinion "Where do we get these people" Well I joined because I was invited by NonFatman. "Fatman" that's a bit ironic ;D If you don't like does tracks that's fine by me! I happily admit to liking Ian's acoustic work and flute tracks more than any other work;, properly because I play flute because of Ian. That's right, Ash, I invited you and am glad that I did. I appreciate your opinions and perspective, and your taking the time to contribute here. The only thing that truly matters with respect to Tull is whether someone enjoys a show and has a good time, and I am happy you did! Don't you mind Tommie, he's got a bit of a crazy side to him but he means well. I can tell you he's one of the most die-hard Tull fans on the planet.....they don't make them any more hardcore, and nobody loves Tull more. He is just pained by their current direction, frustrated, and I think he wishes that everyone else would vote with their feet so that Ian will realize he can't get away with same old, same old year after year after year. Jeff
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