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Feb 13, 2012 10:33:51 GMT -5
Post by My God on Feb 13, 2012 10:33:51 GMT -5
You just beat me to it Pat I was just about to post this link. I find it interesting to read S. Wilsons positive take on TAAB 2 maybe not as good as the original but apparently a very creditable attempt by Ian Sorry about that young man, just goes to show that here on the Board we are constantly in touch with Tull world bringing up-to-date news and views, I mean where else would anyone else get it if you didn't get it from here first ;D Amen! I'm just a Baker Street Muse.
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Feb 13, 2012 10:34:15 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 10:34:15 GMT -5
You just beat me to it Pat I was just about to post this link. I find it interesting to read S. Wilsons positive take on TAAB 2 maybe not as good as the original but apparently a very creditable attempt by Ian We'll all know April 2nd for sure. I'll judge you all and make dam sure, no one judges me. I heard [unconfirmed] from somewhere it may be April 3rd in the USA.......
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Feb 13, 2012 10:59:44 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Feb 13, 2012 10:59:44 GMT -5
We'll all know April 2nd for sure. I'll judge you all and make dam sure, no one judges me. I heard [unconfirmed] from somewhere it may be April 3rd in the USA....... Most album releases happen on Tuesday for U.S. releases. April 3rd is on a Tuesday so that sounds right. I wonder why? Don't record companies work on Mondays?
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Feb 13, 2012 11:19:18 GMT -5
Post by tootull on Feb 13, 2012 11:19:18 GMT -5
Steven Wilson Art as a mirror by Anil Prasad www.innerviews.org/inner/wilson.htmlAnother recent surprise is the news that you’ve mixed Ian Anderson’s Thick as a Brick 2, the sequel to the famous Jethro Tull album. Describe your interest in participating in that project. Steven Wilson - It was a natural development after having mixed the original Thick as a Brick album into surround, as well as doing a new stereo mix. While we were working on that for EMI, Ian said to me “I’ve written Thick as a Brick 2.” I said “That’s interesting.” He told me about this very interesting concept of what would have happened to Gerald Bostock, the eight-year-old kid that supposedly wrote the lyrics, originally. He said it looks at what path his life would have taken. It sounded like a really interesting concept. But I’ll be perfectly honest, part of me also was very skeptical that he could pull it off. There’s always a danger in doing a sequel and it doesn’t just apply to music but to movies and books—it can never live up to the expectation if the original is an established classic, as Thick as a Brick is. I talked with Ian about it and said “If you’re going to do it, you have to do it with the original musical palette. You have to go back and use acoustic guitar, flutes, harpsichords, glockenspiels, and all the things that made the original special. You have to keep it a very organic record and almost go back to the spirit of 1972.” He seemed totally onboard with that and the record is good. I’m not going to say it’s as good as the original, but it’s a very strong piece of work and a credible attempt by one of the legends of ‘70s progressive music to recapture the zeitgeist and feeling of their greatest work.
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Feb 15, 2012 15:48:50 GMT -5
Post by Koba the Cat on Feb 15, 2012 15:48:50 GMT -5
I greeted news of TAAB2 with great skepticism, especially being concurrent with the revelation that Martin is not involved and may be gone for good. Upon reading Ian's recent interviews though I am suddenly very intrigued and increasingly excited. I am not going to get caught up taking sides between Martin and Ian. I am sure they both have valid points and 42 years of having a working relationship is very long indeed and maybe they both need to go in their own individual directions at this point to rejuvenate themselves. Here's hoping for Ian is about to enter a phase of artistic revival and recognition similar to what Bob Dylan went through 10-12 years ago.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:59:20 GMT -5
Post by Tullman on Feb 19, 2012 23:59:20 GMT -5
From my perspective, Ian has always taken "extra credit" even though there is no need since he already deserves plenty of credit. It wouldn't bother me if Martin wasn't going to play on this album, but just leave it that it didn't fit his schedule, don't go and insult him by insinuating that he couldn't technically play it. Along those lines I've read the new cover www.stclevechronicles.com and frankly it's not as funny as the original and that I believe is due to the fact that Ian wrote this one solo (though I don't know that for sure). As far as the album itself, I think Ian has fairly proven his ability to produce quality music whether an Ian Anderson album (anyone for SLOB?) or a Jethro. This TAAB2 concept is genius and we can be sure the music will be top-notch and thorough. REJOICE the coming of a studio album, perhaps the last from Ian though he seems to say in one of the interviews that there are several more years ahead of him. The live concerts are a little more concerning having heard him live in recent years. Anyone who has knows his voice can be very rough on the road. The British luck out in getting the earlier shows and we here Yanks (or Mets in my case!) must hold out that September his vocals will still be alive and kicking. btw, this is my first post on the site, looking forward to reading more threads.
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Feb 20, 2012 9:15:45 GMT -5
Post by Dan on Feb 20, 2012 9:15:45 GMT -5
From my perspective, Ian has always taken "extra credit" even though there is no need since he already deserves plenty of credit. It wouldn't bother me if Martin wasn't going to play on this album, but just leave it that it didn't fit his schedule, don't go and insult him by insinuating that he couldn't technically play it. Along those lines I've read the new cover www.stclevechronicles.com and frankly it's not as funny as the original and that I believe is due to the fact that Ian wrote this one solo (though I don't know that for sure). As far as the album itself, I think Ian has fairly proven his ability to produce quality music whether an Ian Anderson album (anyone for SLOB?) or a Jethro. This TAAB2 concept is genius and we can be sure the music will be top-notch and thorough. REJOICE the coming of a studio album, perhaps the last from Ian though he seems to say in one of the interviews that there are several more years ahead of him. The live concerts are a little more concerning having heard him live in recent years. Anyone who has knows his voice can be very rough on the road. The British luck out in getting the earlier shows and we here Yanks (or Mets in my case!) must hold out that September his vocals will still be alive and kicking. btw, this is my first post on the site, looking forward to reading more threads. Welcome. All valid perceptions. Hope to see more of your comments around here. Especially glad to see another Mets fan around here. I can't believe that's something you would admit. It's really difficult to get excited about the Mutts season. Maybe they can learn to play with passion like Kid. R.I.P. Are you from the N.Y. area? Dan
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Post by Abiel on Feb 20, 2012 10:38:15 GMT -5
I have reading the posts with great interest and intrigue about the current developments and evolution of the musical art form named Jethro Tull. We are truly an unique musical family with many opinions, but I have to say, I am beginning to get a wee bit confused. Tell me if I am incorrect. Ian Anderson begat Jethro Tull. With all of the members, past, present, and future, Martin Barre, although a very intricate member, has always been a "side man". Now, before anyone has a heart attack and calls me a traitor, I have a question.
Has anyone stated or declared that they refuse to see "New Day" because Ian Anderson is not singing or playing? This seems to be one sided.
I, for one, am excited that we are witnessing the passage of knowledge, technique, and love of this musical art and the "passing of the torch",if you will, while the key players are still in play.
This is just a humble observation, but is this not what being a musician, artist, athlete, teacher, etc...is all about? I am grateful that I have experienced this group from the beginnings. If we would stop upon transition of life, interpretations, or opinions, we would not still be performing Bach, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Bartok, or -------(insert favorite here).
Just to close, with all respect to everyone who posts, thank you,I hope this makes sense and as I told my husband after a discussion of his teaching career..."somebody had to teach Tiger Woods"
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Feb 20, 2012 16:14:31 GMT -5
Post by My God on Feb 20, 2012 16:14:31 GMT -5
I have reading the posts with great interest and intrigue about the current developments and evolution of the musical art form named Jethro Tull. We are truly an unique musical family with many opinions, but I have to say, I am beginning to get a wee bit confused. Tell me if I am incorrect. Ian Anderson begat Jethro Tull. With all of the members, past, present, and future, Martin Barre, although a very intricate member, has always been a "side man". Now, before anyone has a heart attack and calls me a traitor, I have a question. Has anyone stated or declared that they refuse to see "New Day" because Ian Anderson is not singing or playing? This seems to be one sided. I, for one, am excited that we are witnessing the passage of knowledge, technique, and love of this musical art and the "passing of the torch",if you will, while the key players are still in play. This is just a humble observation, but is this not what being a musician, artist, athlete, teacher, etc...is all about? I am grateful that I have experienced this group from the beginnings. If we would stop upon transition of life, interpretations, or opinions, we would not still be performing Bach, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Bartok, or -------(insert favorite here). Just to close, with all respect to everyone who posts, thank you,I hope this makes sense and as I told my husband after a discussion of his teaching career..."somebody had to teach Tiger Woods" That's true it's a passing of the torch. We all miss Martin, though. All of your best friend's telephones, never cooled from the heat of your hand.
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Post by Abiel on Feb 20, 2012 16:36:46 GMT -5
I do too. But I look at it instead of one -Jethro Tull- we now have three+ with the best musical DNA still producing in the business
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Feb 22, 2012 0:40:00 GMT -5
Post by Tullman on Feb 22, 2012 0:40:00 GMT -5
Long Island here, and not afraid to admit I'm a Mets fan as they've given me a lot of great memories. Currently they are suffering with bad ownership, though I think the GM will get the most out of them and I like Terry Collins. I think the lineup will do fine, but the pitching looks awful. PS. Too bad about Gary Carter, a class act.
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Feb 22, 2012 0:52:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 0:52:09 GMT -5
I have reading the posts with great interest and intrigue about the current developments and evolution of the musical art form named Jethro Tull. We are truly an unique musical family with many opinions, but I have to say, I am beginning to get a wee bit confused. Tell me if I am incorrect. Ian Anderson begat Jethro Tull. With all of the members, past, present, and future, Martin Barre, although a very intricate member, has always been a "side man". Now, before anyone has a heart attack and calls me a traitor, I have a question. Has anyone stated or declared that they refuse to see "New Day" because Ian Anderson is not singing or playing? This seems to be one sided. I, for one, am excited that we are witnessing the passage of knowledge, technique, and love of this musical art and the "passing of the torch",if you will, while the key players are still in play. This is just a humble observation, but is this not what being a musician, artist, athlete, teacher, etc...is all about? I am grateful that I have experienced this group from the beginnings. If we would stop upon transition of life, interpretations, or opinions, we would not still be performing Bach, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Bartok, or -------(insert favorite here). Just to close, with all respect to everyone who posts, thank you,I hope this makes sense and as I told my husband after a discussion of his teaching career..."somebody had to teach Tiger Woods" I'm not really against Ian and Martin going seperate ways either, but if Ian were singing for Martin's band, wouldn't that pretty much be Jethro Tull? I know there are other guys in the band, but the two of them are pretty much the main team. I guess it wouldn't be much of a tull show without Doane Perry though, in my opinion. Which leads me to my new campaign... No Perry, No Tull!
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Feb 22, 2012 6:30:27 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Feb 22, 2012 6:30:27 GMT -5
Something new from Gerald Bostock on Facebook: "Life is a lemon and I want my money back." Written by Jim Steinman. What a lovely lyricist. So succinct. Wish I had written that. But I didn't.....
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Feb 22, 2012 10:18:20 GMT -5
Post by My God on Feb 22, 2012 10:18:20 GMT -5
I have reading the posts with great interest and intrigue about the current developments and evolution of the musical art form named Jethro Tull. We are truly an unique musical family with many opinions, but I have to say, I am beginning to get a wee bit confused. Tell me if I am incorrect. Ian Anderson begat Jethro Tull. With all of the members, past, present, and future, Martin Barre, although a very intricate member, has always been a "side man". Now, before anyone has a heart attack and calls me a traitor, I have a question. Has anyone stated or declared that they refuse to see "New Day" because Ian Anderson is not singing or playing? This seems to be one sided. I, for one, am excited that we are witnessing the passage of knowledge, technique, and love of this musical art and the "passing of the torch",if you will, while the key players are still in play. This is just a humble observation, but is this not what being a musician, artist, athlete, teacher, etc...is all about? I am grateful that I have experienced this group from the beginnings. If we would stop upon transition of life, interpretations, or opinions, we would not still be performing Bach, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Bartok, or -------(insert favorite here). Just to close, with all respect to everyone who posts, thank you,I hope this makes sense and as I told my husband after a discussion of his teaching career..."somebody had to teach Tiger Woods" I'm not really against Ian and Martin going seperate ways either, but if Ian were singing for Martin's band, wouldn't that pretty much be Jethro Tull? I know there are other guys in the band, but the two of them are pretty much the main team. I guess it wouldn't be much of a tull show without Doane Perry though, in my opinion. Which leads me to my new campaign... No Perry, No Tull! The real Reality is No Ian, No Tull. Need I say more? .....Dusty pavement, burning feet.
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Feb 22, 2012 13:04:23 GMT -5
Post by skytzo on Feb 22, 2012 13:04:23 GMT -5
2 Bricks and No Martin is just a Shame! ..And I know alot of huge Tull fans agree. Here here.
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Feb 22, 2012 14:29:35 GMT -5
Post by egrorian on Feb 22, 2012 14:29:35 GMT -5
It appears Martin was booted without warning and most of this new recording probably went on without him even knowing about it until it was done. Typical. I can see where they both may have agreed if ever to separate to not call it 'Tull' but then Ian goes and uses one of the most recognizable 'Tull' titles (TAAB2) as if to stick it to Mart. Or as he says 'having a selfish Roger Waters moment" I think Martin felt it was a slap in the face and rightfully so if that's the case.. It's pretty disappointing IMO that something like this would go down near the end of such a great career and partnership. But remember, this is supposition and the actual events may be quite different. Graham
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Feb 22, 2012 15:18:07 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Feb 22, 2012 15:18:07 GMT -5
Sold out tickets in 7 minutes !
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Feb 22, 2012 15:40:11 GMT -5
Post by TM on Feb 22, 2012 15:40:11 GMT -5
Latest press section on the Tull site includes new pics for Ian's solo band and lists the current Tull band. And yes, Martin and Doane are still there.
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Feb 22, 2012 18:19:20 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 18:19:20 GMT -5
I'm not really against Ian and Martin going seperate ways either, but if Ian were singing for Martin's band, wouldn't that pretty much be Jethro Tull? I know there are other guys in the band, but the two of them are pretty much the main team. I guess it wouldn't be much of a tull show without Doane Perry though, in my opinion. Which leads me to my new campaign... No Perry, No Tull! The real Reality is No Ian, No Tull. Need I say more? .....Dusty pavement, burning feet. Yeah but I don't think anyone's questioning that
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Feb 22, 2012 19:33:32 GMT -5
Post by singe on Feb 22, 2012 19:33:32 GMT -5
Actually this is heard from people related to Martin. .. I don't doubt any of it. It all sounds too typical. Not to mention Ian said it was his decision. The truth is.. Martin pretty much got booted. for younger, cheaper, musicians. I don't know why the notion of cheaper keeps coming into it. Younger, yes, but he was on the road with the IA band when the idea seemed to have come together, part of the creative process is to go with it, and I bet the chemestry was there for a number of reasons. But the idea of cheaper, a while back in an interview, before the "big break", Martin was asked about his relationship with Ian, I am paraphrasing, but he said that it was not like they were buddies or friend, "it is perrty much buisiness". Well if Martin sees it as all business, this type of thing happens in business everyday. I know it is not to everyones liking, but if it brings on the next phase of Tull, it is a cheap price to pay. The same shit went down when they cleaned house in 1980 before the A album. It's all good.
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Feb 22, 2012 19:50:10 GMT -5
Post by tootull on Feb 22, 2012 19:50:10 GMT -5
The goal $$$$$$$ . Cheap day return - Ian Anderson has mentioned that he would like to make a solo acoustic album with few instruments. A true one-man band album so that he can tour and collect all the money for himself. Hey now! What does that say to you? MONEY speaks! clickity click hold on oh no brrrrrrrrrring bingo! make em laugh make em cry make em dance in the aisles make em pay make em stay make em feel ok not now john we've got to get on with the film show Hollywood waits at the end of the rainbow who cares what it's all about as long as the kids go not now john got to get on with the show hang on john we've got to get on with this i don't know what it is but it fits on here like this ... My Roger Waters' moment. ;D
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Feb 23, 2012 0:36:24 GMT -5
Post by Preston Platform on Feb 23, 2012 0:36:24 GMT -5
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Feb 23, 2012 2:24:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2012 2:24:39 GMT -5
You know, most of us aren't in the rock and roll business, so we don't know everything that's going on with Ian, or exactly why he's doing things. We so easily point the finger at him, but how many things have we ourselves done that we rather not mention or even think about? All I'm saying is things aren't always as black and white as they seem, and it can be very easy to make assumptions. At least he's kept on going for over 40 years with this stuff. Nice link Preston Platform! Very revealing and interesting interview. Only read a few of the answers for now (including the one about Martin) I'll have to get to the rest later--it's a lengthy interview! Great find.
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Feb 23, 2012 3:11:53 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2012 3:11:53 GMT -5
Good Interview! At least Ian seems to have come up with a decent explanation about his honest feelings of wanting to play with other musicians who may not be as old, cranky, and will work 100% under his order and direction. If Martin was really preventing new music from happening then I would feel a little better about how things went down. But I doubt it. Does this mean there will be no Aqua/Loco at these Ian shows?
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Feb 23, 2012 7:34:18 GMT -5
Post by jtul07 on Feb 23, 2012 7:34:18 GMT -5
Tull on Ice "The term ‘on ice’ is probably a fair enough description. We put a fine wine on ice that we will enjoy drinking at a later time. We put strawberries or lobster on ice because we look forward to enjoying them at some point in time, in the not so distant future. If by ‘on ice’ you mean a corpse in a mortuary, then that is not a good description."
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