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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 21, 2013 13:01:11 GMT -5
Well there it is, the first win for This Was. Is this a sign of things to come? Let's find out. I'll set up Broadsword later today. Not so fast, big guy. TW has only four votes at this point. We will have to finish TW v. A concurrently with TW v. Broadsword. Jeff
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Post by Nonfatman on Jun 21, 2013 13:47:11 GMT -5
Great, I just composed a long post with my scoring for TW v. A, and then somehow lost the entire thing.
I scored it a 7-7 tie, so the current score is TW - 4 votes, A - 1 vote, Tie - 1 vote. I will re-do my post later.
Jeff
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Post by TM on Jun 21, 2013 14:18:43 GMT -5
Wow, that's it, this was fast....we're already onto the next! Sweet. Holly, the reason that seemed fast is because Paul miscounted again. The actual score when he prematurely called the round for TW was TW - 4 votes, A - 1 vote. The four votes in favor of TW were you, Paul, Greg and Erin, with Willie voting in favor of A. There may have been some confusuion because Willie initially miscounted his own point total, concluding that he had scored it in favor of TW, but upon re-checking his math, he corrected his vote in a subsequent post. So TW has not yet received the five requisite votes, and the round is still open! Jeff So what you are saying is it's all Willie's fault!
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Post by TM on Jun 21, 2013 14:20:42 GMT -5
After Greg's vote it's
Broadsword 2 votes This Was 1 vote
(No matter what anyone says!)
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Post by TM on Jun 21, 2013 14:27:47 GMT -5
2 PT QUESTIONS - the main categories (two points awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, each album gets one point): 1) Does the album break any new ground? Well... they are both a product of their times, 1968=British Blues and 1980=synth stuff, but both with the flute added. Given that to the best of my knowledge, the flute and synth stuff was unheard of, but flute with blues was merely extremely rare, I have to reluctantly contend that A broke slightly more ground. ok... on to next question. A 2 points A- 2 PTS, TW- 0 PTS2) The complexity/quality of the music: how adventurous is it? Are the melodies consistently good? I'd say one point each. TW has some nice melodies, but is a bit elementary for Tull. A has perhaps stronger melodies, but the production blows. A- 3 PTS, TW- 1 PT3) The quality of the lyrics in terms of imagery, rhyme, metaphor, content and meaning. A wins this one. A- 5 PTS, TW- 1 PT4) How essential the album is to the Tull catalogue? Does it contain any Tull classics? TW wins I suppose... A- 3 PTS, TW- 3 PTS5) How well-sung is the album? Both are well sung in different ways. A- 4 PTS, TW- 4 PTS1 PT. QUESTIONS - the less important categories (one point is awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, neither album gets a point): A- 4 PTS, TW- 4 PTS6) Are there any unusual or interesting musical touches, like the claghorn on This Was for example. Flute and claghorn VS Flute and synth. Although A has a rather dubious electric violin as well... so I'll reluctantly say A wins this one. A- 5 PTS, TW- 4 PTS7) The overall packaging and presentation of the album, including artwork, liner notes, etc. Arghhhhhh! Look away! Look away! The white Trashsuits! Arghhh! I prefer A (mostly to snicker at), but both stink. 0 points. A- 5 PTS, TW- 4 PTS8) Production and sound quality of the album. Easily TW! A- 5 PTS, TW- 5 PTS9) Does the album have a sense of humor? A has funny and more off beat lyrics. A gets 1 point. A- 6 PTS, TW- 5 PTS...so This Was wins, right? I always stunk at math! Just to confirm. And I sincerely apologize for my premature miscalculation.
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Post by Morthoron on Jun 21, 2013 20:52:49 GMT -5
And I sincerely apologize for my premature miscalculation. You'll have to change your undies on that one. ;D
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Post by TM on Jun 21, 2013 21:04:56 GMT -5
And I sincerely apologize for my premature miscalculation. You'll have to change your undies on that one. ;D You know, I believe I'm seeing hair growing on my mouse.
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Post by Mothfairy on Jun 21, 2013 22:32:02 GMT -5
*Backs slowly out of this thread*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 10:28:41 GMT -5
So where do we stand? "A" vs. "This Was" is still open?
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Post by TM on Jun 25, 2013 10:54:53 GMT -5
So where do we stand? "A" vs. "This Was" is still open? Yes. 4-1 This Was at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2013 17:17:36 GMT -5
[/img] 2 PT QUESTIONS - the main categories (two points awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, each album gets one point):1) Does the album break any new ground?This Was 2 points 2) The complexity/quality of the music: how adventurous is it? Are the melodies consistently good?A has a more sophisticated feel to it more odd time signatures and instrumentation. A 2 points 3) The quality of the lyrics in terms of imagery, rhyme, metaphor, content and meaning. Well A has more lyrical imagery for sure A 2points 4) How essential the album is to the Tull catalogue? Does it contain any Tull classics?Again as I've said before This Was made it possible for others to follow and to this day songs are still making it into the setlist. This Was 2 points5) How well-sung is the album?I liked Ians smoother more supple voice on TW. This Was 2 points 1 PT. QUESTIONS - the less important categories (one point is awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, neither album gets a point):6) Are there any unusual or interesting musical touches, like the claghorn on This Was for example. A had the added value of Violin and was the most electronic album to date. (good or bad) A 1 point 7) The overall packaging and presentation of the album, including artwork, liner notes, etc.This Was had for more to look at and read This Was 1 point8) Production and sound quality of the album.A was very sparkling clear A 1 point 9) Does the album have a sense of humor?This Was most definitely is more humorous This Was 1 point
Score: TW - 8 points A - 6 points
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Post by TM on Jun 25, 2013 21:04:10 GMT -5
[/img] 2 PT QUESTIONS - the main categories (two points awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, each album gets one point):1) Does the album break any new ground?This Was 2 points 2) The complexity/quality of the music: how adventurous is it? Are the melodies consistently good?A has a more sophisticated feel to it more odd time signatures and instrumentation. A 2 points 3) The quality of the lyrics in terms of imagery, rhyme, metaphor, content and meaning. Well A has more lyrical imagery for sure A 2points 4) How essential the album is to the Tull catalogue? Does it contain any Tull classics?Again as I've said before This Was made it possible for others to follow and to this day songs are still making it into the setlist. This Was 2 points5) How well-sung is the album?I liked Ians smoother more supple voice on TW. This Was 2 points 1 PT. QUESTIONS - the less important categories (one point is awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, neither album gets a point):6) Are there any unusual or interesting musical touches, like the claghorn on This Was for example. A had the added value of Violin and was the most electronic album to date. (good or bad) A 1 point 7) The overall packaging and presentation of the album, including artwork, liner notes, etc.This Was had for more to look at and read This Was 1 point8) Production and sound quality of the album.A was very sparkling clear A 1 point 9) Does the album have a sense of humor?This Was most definitely is more humorous This Was 1 point
Score: TW - 8 points A - 6 points
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 17:17:42 GMT -5
Wow, that's it, this was fast....we're already onto the next! Sweet. Holly, the reason that seemed fast is because Paul miscounted again. The actual score when he prematurely called the round for TW was TW - 4 votes, A - 1 vote. The four votes in favor of TW were you, Paul, Greg and Erin, with Willie voting in favor of A. There may have been some confusuion because Willie initially miscounted his own point total, concluding that he had scored it in favor of TW, but upon re-checking his math, he corrected his vote in a subsequent post. So TW has not yet received the five requisite votes, and the round is still open! Jeff Maybe we need an 'official' point counter?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 2:38:14 GMT -5
Holly, the reason that seemed fast is because Paul miscounted again. The actual score when he prematurely called the round for TW was TW - 4 votes, A - 1 vote. The four votes in favor of TW were you, Paul, Greg and Erin, with Willie voting in favor of A. There may have been some confusuion because Willie initially miscounted his own point total, concluding that he had scored it in favor of TW, but upon re-checking his math, he corrected his vote in a subsequent post. So TW has not yet received the five requisite votes, and the round is still open! Jeff Maybe we need an 'official' point counter? Seconded, I think we need an 'official' point counter.
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Post by Nonfatman on Aug 17, 2013 10:45:07 GMT -5
[/img] 2 PT QUESTIONS - the main categories (two points awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, each album gets one point):1) Does the album break any new ground?This Was 2 points 2) The complexity/quality of the music: how adventurous is it? Are the melodies consistently good?A has a more sophisticated feel to it more odd time signatures and instrumentation. A 2 points 3) The quality of the lyrics in terms of imagery, rhyme, metaphor, content and meaning. Well A has more lyrical imagery for sure A 2points 4) How essential the album is to the Tull catalogue? Does it contain any Tull classics?Again as I've said before This Was made it possible for others to follow and to this day songs are still making it into the setlist. This Was 2 points5) How well-sung is the album?I liked Ians smoother more supple voice on TW. This Was 2 points 1 PT. QUESTIONS - the less important categories (one point is awarded to the winner of each, but in the case of a tie, neither album gets a point):6) Are there any unusual or interesting musical touches, like the claghorn on This Was for example. A had the added value of Violin and was the most electronic album to date. (good or bad) A 1 point 7) The overall packaging and presentation of the album, including artwork, liner notes, etc.This Was had for more to look at and read This Was 1 point8) Production and sound quality of the album.A was very sparkling clear A 1 point 9) Does the album have a sense of humor?This Was most definitely is more humorous This Was 1 point
Score: TW - 8 points A - 6 points
[/quote][/quote] Wait, I'm confused by Steve's post because it seems that he is quoting Paul's prior vote. Steve, is this your own vote, or is this Paul's vote? If it is you, then I believe that would be the winning vote for TW, and we are ready to resume with TW v. Broadsword. I actually had typed out an elaborate post awhile ago to register my vote in this round, but wound up losing the entire thing due to a browser issue. Jeff
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 11:57:47 GMT -5
Wait, I'm confused by Steve's post because it seems that he is quoting Paul's prior vote. Steve, is this your own vote, or is this Paul's vote? If it is you, then I believe that would be the winning vote for TW, and we are ready to resume with TW v. Broadsword. I actually had typed out an elaborate post awhile ago to register my vote in this round, but wound up losing the entire thing due to a browser issue. Jeff Yes Jeff that is mine I quoted Paul's to use as a template. Soooo Onward! Darin
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