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Post by TM on Oct 17, 2014 9:12:42 GMT -5
Now that’s progressive: Jethro Tull’s Ian Anderson performing Friday at UIS AP Photo/Petros Karadjias British musician Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull performs Friday at Sangamon Auditorium. By Ann Pierceall Correspondent Posted Oct. 15, 2014 @ 10:00 pm Quixotic and quirky.
Two adjectives among many that describe Ian Anderson, the flautist, songwriter and, for the last four decades, frontman for the iconic British rock band, Jethro Tull. Frequently called the “father of progressive music,” Anderson will bring his sound to Sangamon Auditorium at 8 p.m. Friday (see accompanying information for details). The show will feature music from Anderson’s most recent solo album “Homo Erraticus,” followed by Jethro Tull selections.
“We try to make it entertaining for everybody,” Anderson said during a recent telephone interview. He said Jethro Tull — famous for “Aqualung” and “Bungle in the Jungle” — and Ian Anderson are “one and the same for all intents and purposes.
“There is absolutely no difference except the name on the ticket,” he said. Read more: www.sj-r.com/article/20141015/Entertainment & Life/141019750#ixzz3GPXgTRwE
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 15:39:12 GMT -5
I've never heard him referred to as the father of progressive music--who is considered the "father"?
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Post by housebrick on Oct 17, 2014 19:00:26 GMT -5
I've never heard him referred to as the father of progressive music--who is considered the "father"? Martin Barre lol!!!
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Post by housebrick on Oct 17, 2014 19:03:55 GMT -5
Dave Rees mentions in the latest issue of AND that many Tull fans have apparently chosen to boycott the current tour because of Ian's decision to break-up Jethro Tull. Dave mentioned that some venues were maybe half-filled... last time i watched the dreadful Anderson solo show was 2011 . Never again will i endure this lot scraping the barrel trying to recreate a once fabulous band . Ive gone to the Martin camp for quality
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Post by Geoff CB on Oct 17, 2014 21:27:25 GMT -5
Dave Rees mentions in the latest issue of AND that many Tull fans have apparently chosen to boycott the current tour because of Ian's decision to break-up Jethro Tull. Dave mentioned that some venues were maybe half-filled... last time i watched the dreadful Anderson solo show was 2011 . Never again will i endure this lot scraping the barrel trying to recreate a once fabulous band . Ive gone to the Martin camp for quality We don't have a choice here, but I'd love to see the Martin show.
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Post by Geoff CB on Oct 17, 2014 21:29:16 GMT -5
Speaking of HE tour, I just got the HE Tour DVD, but it was just the background animation, and only in stereo. Interesting, but...
Oh well, IA's richer now.
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Post by TM on Oct 18, 2014 19:33:30 GMT -5
I'll be seeing it soon Geoff - the concert that is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 22:31:41 GMT -5
It's amazing the kind of resentment and grudges a 40 year old rock band can still instill.
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Post by Tullabye on Oct 19, 2014 9:22:34 GMT -5
Referring to the housebrick post:
Well then I'm afraid that you've missed at least two great tours. The brick tour was as good as any Tull tour since RTB and HE was great. I have no idea what youre talking about when you suggest there's a lack of quality with the IA shows. This board has become a bit predictable and bitter .Seems like it might be better changing to a MB board so that a handful of you guys can bitch and moan about better times gone by.
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Post by Nonfatman on Oct 19, 2014 9:57:06 GMT -5
Referring to the housebrick post: Well then I'm afraid that you've missed at least two great tours. The brick tour was as good as any Tull tour since RTB and HE was great. I have no idea what youre talking about when you suggest there's a lack of quality with the IA shows. This board has become a bit predictable and bitter .Seems like it might be better changing to a MB board so that a handful of you guys can bitch and moan about better times gone by. Tom, I don't think that's the case at all. Yes, there are some members who are not crazy about the current product that Ian is putting out there, and are disappointed that Martin Barre is no longer recording and performing with Ian, but so what? This forum has always been open to express any ideas or sentiments that fans wish to express, and that extends to criticism. We have always emphasized the Tull fan more so than the band. There is still a huge amount of praise to be found here, but it is not uniform, it is not an endless, interminable paean to Ian Anderson and everything he does. There is also a lot of friendship and fun to be found here as well. Jeff
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Post by housebrick on Oct 25, 2014 19:50:20 GMT -5
Hey Tullabye sorry to rattle your cage But My take on it is :- Since 2011 IAns voice has weakened to the point he cant do the show anymore as a sole singer that he used to be Ryan is i.mo. an actor not a great rock band singer by any stretch He is at present SALVAGING the attempt to play classic Tull Without him it wouldnt be possible.
Flo is a at best a typical shredder who are 10 a penny ,no Gilmour,Clapton,Bonnamassa, Knopfler,Barre (remember him lol!!) quality here Once Anderson dispenses with him you wont hear of him again FULL STOP.
The drummer i cant even remember his name is no match at all For Doanne (longest standing Tull sticksman)
Bass and keys are not in the league of Giddings/Noyce , Goodyear's singing lead vocals on WYTTHM aint really good
so these are the reasons why i see the lack of quality
Martins band is on a shoestring budget in comparison but your gonna get seriuos guitar work,far superor vocals and a genuine solid rhythym section No actors/ shredders/gimmicks in sight I see a much more honest band working hard
This is only my take on it ,if you disagree not a problem ,its a free world Sorry if you disagree ,im really glad i didnt watch the TAAB2 /HE tours after wtahcing the MANY youtubes which I.M.O.were at best- crap.
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Post by Tullabye on Oct 25, 2014 22:53:15 GMT -5
No prob brick. You're also entitled to your opinion but really now....you know there is no resemblance to Tull without Ian. ian is and always has been the creative genius behind the band. Without him there would be nothing. Martin's a great guitarist but without the ability write those unbelievable lyrics and music. Ian goes on and is too classy to call himself Tull but could easily do so. Your loss not making the shows and youtube is not a reliable indicator. Go to the other board and see the reviews of the show, both by the fans and critics, pretty clear that a whole lot of people think the last two tours which you sadly missed were damn good. Like the vast majority who went, I too saw the shows and think they were excellent. Go and then write your comments about the show, otherwise you should just relax and go see a good cover band when Martin comes to town.
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Post by housebrick on Oct 27, 2014 13:10:26 GMT -5
Yes i agree no Ian = No Tull. Same for Martin i.m.o. Of course Ian could call it Tull he owns the name,Ian said he didnt want to do Tull 3 years ago,now hes playing more and more!!
To be fair to Martin i dont think he is trying to resemble Tull with his approach,deliberately avoiding the flute. Martin has to prove himself as a writer with this newish band. I think his next effort will be something to judge that on. I dont think Martin had much time to prepare for what was to come in reality.
Im not to sure Ians new music reflects the genuis he once was ,give me Dot Com anyday compared to the last 2 efforts. I bought them both and will probably get them out only once every 5 years or so to be truthful.
Last tour i saw Ian was 2011 with FO and the keys man as a trio and to be fair i said that was the last due to the vocal issues. Didnt know at that point Tull had finished.
At present Martins band is a covers band but like i say great guitar,great vocals ,fine drummer ,solid bass and sax ,maybe bit raw at times more like early Tull . Ians band is trying to be Tull but for me has simply too many irritations to enjoy it.
The other board is too pro Ian for my liking ,one would think he actually posts at times.
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Post by Jamesrhome2night on Oct 28, 2014 0:14:48 GMT -5
Why are some people so mean to Ian? He is only playing his music. We all have a right to an opinion, but how is Ian hurting you to cause such anger? Ian strained his vocal cords in his younger years and in my opinion that caused his voice to suffer in his later years. I am grateful for the times when his voice was the strongest. I am now grateful that he still makes original new music and tours so we can hear his talented band and the vocals as well. Yes, I saw two concerts on consecutive nights in early October and was thrilled both times. There is nothing bad about this band. All six, including Ryan, did their jobs with high energy and sent me home proud that I saw them. I will gladly spend my money on a new Ian Anderson album and go to more concerts if I am lucky enough to get the opportunity. Thank you and good night.
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Post by TM on Oct 28, 2014 9:13:57 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT: Avoid this article if you have yet to see the show -
REVIEW: Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson at Sands not living in the past, but could better serve it
It’s hard to figure what to make of progressive rock these days – at least the progressive rock of Jethro Tull lead singer Ian Anderson, who performed Sunday at Sands Bethlehem Event Center. On one hand, its complexity and sheer musicality makes it stand far apart from senseless drivel such as Taylor Swift’s new album. And Anderson’s particularly theatrical style of presenting it made it instantly intriguing. On the other hand, Anderson’s material from his new album “Homo Erraticus,” released in May, was presented so theatrically, that it very much seemed more a play than music able to stand on its own, except that it had no discernible story, or even message. And the older songs that Anderson billed as “the best of Jethro Tull,” while still impressive, sounded a bit tattered as played Sunday, and dipped into cover-band territory when – despite the fact Anderson was on stage – some were largely sung by a different vocalist. The show was offered in two sets, with the first hour containing seven songs of the 15 from ”Homo Erraticus” then a couple of Tull hits, and the second hour 10 of the supposed best of Tull.... www.mcall.com/entertainment/lehigh-valley-music/mc-jethro-tulls-ian-anderson-at-sands-bethlehem-event-center-not-living-in-the-past-but-could-better-se-20141027-column.html
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Post by TM on Oct 28, 2014 10:42:19 GMT -5
Without seeing the show, the sentiments expressed about it being more like a play as well as it having a cover-band feel are exactly what I felt at the TAAB2 shows.
There is only one original and despite the well intended, it is a let-down when Ian cannot or does not sing.
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Post by Dan on Oct 28, 2014 12:31:32 GMT -5
I'm sure the reviewer will be ridiculed but that sounds like an accurate description.
Dan
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Post by TM on Oct 28, 2014 21:31:51 GMT -5
I'm sure the reviewer will be ridiculed but that sounds like an accurate description. Dan I would challenge anybody to critique that review.
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Post by Tullabye on Oct 29, 2014 12:40:37 GMT -5
You guys are funny. How long did it take you to finally find a less then stellar review (and of course post it)? Yes this review was posted on the other board with all of the other positive reviews (not that this one is bad) but it seems like a very selective choice. I would agree with the reviewer that having Ryan sing in place of Ian ( Ian should sing all songs, his voice seemed stronger than it has been in a long time) is what places it into near cover band territory (which is exactly what Martin's band is), but unless you've seen the show live and have an opinion of it from a live experience it carries little water with me, not that any of the negative Nellie's on this board care. HE isn't for everyone but there seem to be quite a few folks that enjoy it.
If you're actually going to post a review, why not post a few of the very positive ones from the vast majority consensus? This is a JT board of fans...I think. It's no wonder the posts are so few here now. It used to be the board of choice for most but sadly it's living and dying in the past.
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Post by TM on Oct 29, 2014 14:15:57 GMT -5
You guys are funny. How long did it take you to finally find a less then stellar review (and of course post it)? Yes this review was posted on the other board with all of the other positive reviews (not that this one is bad) but it seems like a very selective choice. I would agree with the reviewer that having Ryan sing in place of Ian ( Ian should sing all songs, his voice seemed stronger than it has been in a long time) is what places it into near cover band territory (which is exactly what Martin's band is), but unless you've seen the show live and have an opinion of it from a live experience it carries little water with me, not that any of the negative Nellie's on this board care. HE isn't for everyone but there seem to be quite a few folks that enjoy it. If you're actually going to post a review, why not post a few of the very positive ones from the vast majority consensus? This is a JT board of fans...I think. It's no wonder the posts are so few here now. It used to be the board of choice for most but sadly it's living and dying in the past. I no longer go in search of reviews for IA (or Tull) concerts to post here as I once did. It's just so easy to set your own search engines to deliver all things of interest direct to your email. So this review came to my email and it was interesting to me because I could relate to it. But that is not to say that positive reviews aren't welcomed, as they most definitely are. Everyone (including yourself) is welcome to contribute anything they like to the Board.
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Post by TM on Oct 29, 2014 19:16:16 GMT -5
Here's a highlight from the US Tour:
Edit - Sorry for the double post. I see Dan already put this is the Youtube section.
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Post by Tullabye on Oct 29, 2014 21:35:40 GMT -5
You guys are funny. How long did it take you to finally find a less then stellar review (and of course post it)? Yes this review was posted on the other board with all of the other positive reviews (not that this one is bad) but it seems like a very selective choice. I would agree with the reviewer that having Ryan sing in place of Ian ( Ian should sing all songs, his voice seemed stronger than it has been in a long time) is what places it into near cover band territory (which is exactly what Martin's band is), but unless you've seen the show live and have an opinion of it from a live experience it carries little water with me, not that any of the negative Nellie's on this board care. HE isn't for everyone but there seem to be quite a few folks that enjoy it. If you're actually going to post a review, why not post a few of the very positive ones from the vast majority consensus? This is a JT board of fans...I think. It's no wonder the posts are so few here now. It used to be the board of choice for most but sadly it's living and dying in the past. I no longer go in search of reviews for IA (or Tull) concerts to post here as I once did. It's just so easy to set your own search engines to deliver all things of interest direct to your email. So this review came to my email and it was interesting to me because I could relate to it. But that is not to say that positive reviews aren't welcomed, as they most definitely are. Everyone (including yourself) is welcome to contribute anything they like to the Board. Yes I realize that I can post but why do so when it's all over the other board. That board is taking advantage of your non interest. The sad thing is that you only post a review that you can relate to and then challenge anyone to critique it? People are getting turned off by this board and all of the negative posts are by the few that remain. No Ian on banner???... you may as well have Mick on the banner...at least he was a founding member. I used to love coming to this board but it's a downer now.
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Post by Dan on Oct 30, 2014 0:04:44 GMT -5
You guys are funny. How long did it take you to finally find a less then stellar review (and of course post it)? Yes this review was posted on the other board with all of the other positive reviews (not that this one is bad) but it seems like a very selective choice. I would agree with the reviewer that having Ryan sing in place of Ian ( Ian should sing all songs, his voice seemed stronger than it has been in a long time) is what places it into near cover band territory (which is exactly what Martin's band is), but unless you've seen the show live and have an opinion of it from a live experience it carries little water with me, not that any of the negative Nellie's on this board care. HE isn't for everyone but there seem to be quite a few folks that enjoy it. If you're actually going to post a review, why not post a few of the very positive ones from the vast majority consensus? This is a JT board of fans...I think. It's no wonder the posts are so few here now. It used to be the board of choice for most but sadly it's living and dying in the past. Here's some more 'negative Nellieness ' to add fuel to the fire. Seeing the band twice this year and I don't really need to wait until Sunday to post a review. It will be the same as the past 7 years or so. It will always be better than sitting home watching television but nothing that gets me to use the words, "awesome, tremendous, inspiring....blah, blah, blah...etc." Will I have fun, yes, does he have great musicians, yes, will I wish I was watching a Jethro Tull Concert instead, yes. Corn flakes , Florian adulation, Ian is Tull aside, for me, listening to Martin play the guitar became more of a treat than watching Ian for their last 10 years. Without new music , I would not drive more than 10 miles to watch the band play a complete show of what Mr. A. thinks is the Best Of Tull. I've seen it all before and played better. A real Ian Anderson Only Show featuring Walk Into Light, Divinities, Rupi's Dance, a song or two from TAAB2 and H.E. and a couple of acoustic Tull songs is something I would gladly pay to hear but it will never happen because there is no money in it . Maybe it is even the age of instant/social media or a result of getting older but I do not share an earlier adulation about his own insights or philosophy on climate change, world over population, wars, politics, poverty, homosexuality ,etc... I wish he would just take a page from his idol, Zappa and just "Shut Up 'N Play Your Guitar." As far as the other Forum, there is only the same 5 or 6 people posting like all these sites and posts like this would be either demonized, deleted or met with private messages in my inbox. Trying to scroll through there and weed through all the bullshit (i.e . daily venue pics, strange album covers, one word threads...)to find a scrap of anything interesting that doesn't invoke blowing Ian by internet makes my head reel. But don't get the wrong idea that don't I love Tull music and think Ian Anderson is a musical genius but watching the Tour screen displaying images of the band in their heyday only makes me sad and wish they would rather play to a blank back drop. Dan
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Post by Dan on Oct 30, 2014 1:28:04 GMT -5
Sorry to forever disagree with anyone but I would be a lot more excited if I was going to see this show this weekend.
There isn't even a close comparison.
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Post by TM on Oct 30, 2014 9:48:00 GMT -5
I appreciate your feedback Tom.
The board is a hobby. It's not my job or something that I make money from. And while my lack of interest in Ian's new direction might very well be a detriment to this board, there's not much I can do since I just don't feel the love any longer.
The banner has always changed and been used to promote Ian's solo records as well. It just turns out that Martin has released the last new record and while a change is due, my latest attempts haven't turned out anything worth posting, so you'll have to forgive me as I try to come up with something new.
But here's a genuine offer to you or anyone else that wants to breathe some new life into this board. If you're interested in contributing role with the board send me a PM.
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